Trump “Strongly” Considering Concealed Carry In Schools

President Trump suggested that arming teachers would be an effective method of preventing future school shootings while sitting down for a listening session on school shootings at the White House on Wednesday.

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“If you had a teacher who was adept at firearms, they could very well end the attack very quickly, and the good thing about a suggestion like that — and we’re going to be looking at it very strongly, and I think a lot of people are going to be opposed to it. I think a lot of people are going to like it. But the good thing is you’re going to have a lot of [armed] people with that,” said the President.

Trump said that athletic director at Stoneman Douglas High School, Chris Hixon, had “saved a lot of lives,” however if he had been armed, he could have saved more.

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“He wouldn’t have had to run, he would have shot, and that would have been the end of it,” he said, adding that he only supported concealed carry for people “adept” with guns.

Trump also knocked gun-free zones around schools.

“A gun-free zone to a maniac, because they’re all cowards, a gun-free zone is ‘let’s go in and attack,'” he said. “I really believe if these cowards knew that the school was well-guarded from the standpoint of pretty much having professionals with great training, I think they wouldn’t go into the schools to start with, it would pretty much solve your problem.

Trump then turned to the attendees for their thoughts, asking “So does anybody like that idea here, does anybody like it? … Do people feel strongly against it, anybody? Anybody? Strongly against it? We can understand both sides. Certainly, it’s controversial, but we’ll study that along with many other ideas.”

Several attendees voiced their displeasure with the notion.

“Nobody wants to see a shoot-out in school,” said Mark Barden, whose son was killed in the December 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. “And a deranged sociopath on his way to commit an act of murder in a school with the outcome, knowing the outcome is going to be suicide, is not going to care if there is somebody there with a gun,” he continued.

“Schoolteachers have more than enough responsibilities right now than to have to have the awesome responsibility of lethal force to take a life.”

Not all schoolteachers

After Butler County, Ohio Sheriff Richard K. Jones offered free concealed carry training to 50 teachers following the shooting, 250 teachers responded as reported by Fox 91 news. “We have 250 and growing fast. We will start training fast, next week.”

Jones stressed that he wants teachers to understand how to handle an active shooter situation, should they be allowed to carry firearms on campus.

“If the school boards want to give the authority to teachers to be armed…[they] can do that, they have the authority to do it, but I’m going to do my part, and I assume I’m probably the only one in the state of Ohio that’s doing that – but something has to happen.” said the Sherriff.

Parents speak out

Survivors of the Parkland, FL school shooting took turns sharing their pain, with some offering solutions, and others simply vowing to fight for gun control measures.

“How many schools, how many children have to get shot? It stops here with this administration and me. I’m not going to sleep until it’s fixed. And Mr. President, we’re going to fix it, because I’m going fix it. I’m not going to rest,” said the father of one Parkland shooting victim.

Trump responds

In response to the emotional pleas, President Trump promised new measures to prevent guns from falling into the wrong hands. “We’re going to be very strong on background checks,” said Trump. “There are many ideas I have, there are many ideas that other people have, and we’re going to pick out the strongest ideas, the most important ideas.”

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“It’s not going to be talk like it has been in the past,” he added. Trump notably criticized President Obama for failing to pass gun control legislation when they had a supermajority:

Indeed, it appears action is right around the corner – which President Trump and Congressional GOP will have to weigh against the wishes of their largely gun-advocating base. At a NRA convention in 2016, for example, President Trump stated “You came through big for me,” after the National Rifle Association and its affiliates spent over $50 million towards advertisements in the 2016 election, “and I am going to come through for you.”

Trump spoke Friday with Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), the Senate’s No. 2-ranking Republican, about supporting a bipartisan bill in the Senate to improve the federal background check system for gun purchases.

Trump also announced Tuesday that he has directed the Justice Department to propose a ban on bump stocks, which that allow semi-automatic weapons to fire much more rapidly, reinvigorating a ban push that has been stalled for months since the Las Vegas shooting. –The Hill

In response to the shooting, Broward County Deputies have begun patrolling school grounds with rifles, including AR-15s.

 

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MadMike
MadMike

Gee, what a fucking genius.
For more than 10 years Utah has allowed ANYONE with a Utah CCW to carry in any public school, K through College.
Staff, administrators, teachers, parents, friends, or neighbors… anyone.
They have a nice, peaceful, well armed school system.

kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2

My preference is for a guard behind bullet proof glass at the main and only entrance from outside, which is locked down. Arriving students go thru a vestibule with metal detector and xray for bags.

You don’t need a shitload of adults carrying guns in school.

Glock-N-Load

That’s not the worst thought I’ve heard but what if someone actually is able to get a gun into school? There are windows and such also. What about games and plays and other activities that require access in other areas of the school? These places are damn big to think only one access point is doable imo.

anarchyst
anarchyst

We already have those facilities. They’re called “prisons”.

Robert (QSLV)
Robert (QSLV)

Nice, a choke point where a shooter can clean up from the outside.

Robert (QSLV)

Dave
Dave

Imagine 3000 students arriving at 7 15 AM for 7:30 AM class. Imagine the last kid getting in at 2 PM just as school gets out for the day.

Overthecliff

Nobody wants a shoot out in schools. Agreed: however, some obviously want schools to be free fire zones. That guy is an idiot.

Glock-N-Load

I can’t remember if I saw the following comment on TBP or somewhere else but it’s a good one.

“Nanci Pelosi is guarded better than students in school. Which one is worth more”?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty

But all the kids can still be on powerful and dangerous mind-altering drugs that list depression, anger, violence, suicidal thoughts, and worse right on the label.

And the government will still try and force fit a one-size fits all approach to education around tens of millions of varying needs, wants, and parental desires.

And the government will continue to STEAL billions of dollars from the rest of society to pretend to provide an education for a percentage of the population.

And the free market, which provides us with a vast array of products that meet all of our other life needs, provides the diversity that keeps nearly everyone satisfied with the choices they are given (and allows for more at the drop of a hat) will still be kept as far away as possible from BOTH the security AND education market for the vast majority of American consumers.

Yeah, that will fix the problem. More band-aids from government. But since THEY are the problem, it is hardly surprising.

unit472/
unit472/

Having a gunfight in a crowded hallway is not much of a solution. Unless the killer was using a rifle he could be hard to identify if he was a student or looked like one and in a large high school the damage could be done by the time a cop or armed teacher arrived on the scene and if the killer has a rifle and his opponent a handgun well… he might not be able to stop the killer.

I’m not against letting teachers carry a sidearm but God help the school district if that weapon kills an innocent student or gets left in the teachers desk and stolen.

The fact is that at Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech and now at Parkland, all the gunman had been identified as mentally ill but, because of medical privacy laws, none of them would have showed up on the gun data base. Adam Lanza it is true killed his mother then took her AR to shoot up the school so little can be done to stop that but it is simply unacceptable that known madmen like Jared Loughner, the South Korean nut at Virginia Tech and now this Nilolas Cruz creep were all able to legally buy their guns.

nkit
nkit

Five or six heavily armed military veterans patrolling every school…and teaching an after school gun safety course…

grenades, RPGs, neckties, HIGH VOLTAGE…

anarchyst
anarchyst

I may ruffle a few feathers here, but, I DON’T CARE. Most cops are pussies, citing “officer safety” instead of doing their jobs, especially when it comes to school shootings, “officer safety” takes precedence over apprehending the shooter. Look at Columbine, and other school mass shootings where “trained police officers” and SWAT teams SAT ON THEIR HANDS and waited, afraid to take action, while the “bad guy” was committing his carnage. Marines are TRAINED and would go towards the sound of weapons fire. I would trust a Marine over a police officer in such a situation, even though police officers are protected by their unions and official immunity. Yes, I would volunteer in a minute, even if not protected by official “immunity”.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty

Government schools are already “militarized” enough.

anarchyst
anarchyst

You are correct about the militarization of public schools. However, us former Marines DO have the training to stop the threat in an “active shooter” situation. Much more than cops, WHO ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PROTECT INDIVIDUALS–ONLY SOCIETY AT LARGE.

nkit
nkit

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Robert (QSLV)
Robert (QSLV)

Mom needs more practical footware, otherwise, takes my Family of the Year award, first place.

Robert (QSLV)

TJF
TJF

Finally, some of those “common sense” gun laws politicians are always talking about. Not every teacher should carry, just like all people should not carry. Some people are not cut out for the responsibility, but the choice should be up to each individual.

How are gun free zones on public (government) property evel legal? Seems like an infringment to me.

For private property I think it seems up to owner to decide if they want to ban guns on the premises or not. Why do other rights not work that way? Refuse to bake a cake and you break the law. Prohibit firearms and it is ok? Why the difference? Where does the Constitution separate the ammendments into ones that must be adhered to and ones that only apply sometimes and at some places?

Anonymous
Anonymous

With “all options o the table” there is one option that is absolutely not being allowed on the table.

The only one that would actually make a difference and reverse this trend of school violence.

If You don’t know what that option is it isn’t going to do any good to explain it, you won’t understand the answer.

hardscrabble farmer

Law enforcement cannot protect people, that much we can see and understand.

Laws do not prevent criminal behavior.

The right to keep and bear arms was never intended to protect target practice and hunting, but to deter criminality, from the home invader right up to the political tyrant.

If you want to have a logical and reasonable discourse, those facts must be the foundation of any discussion.

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