Has the Bubble Popped?

Guest Post by Eric Peters

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How much longer it can go on? How long, that is, can the irrational exuberance which has characterized the market for new cars go on?

Each year, new cars become less and less affordable – relative to what people can afford to spend. Which explains why leases and extended loans with near nil interest have been resorted to for the past almost ten years now to keep the proverbial balloon inflated.

But the ballon may finally have popped.

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Or at least, sprung a leak.

Sales of Ford and GM vehicles are down by 7 percent so far this year; Honda is down about 5 percent and Nissan 4.3 percent. FiatChrysler sales are a bright spot – they haven’t slipped as much this year as the did last year.

They are only down 1.4 percent.

Meanwhile, the average monthly payment for a new car is up to $525 – a record high – which probably accounts for the decline is sales. The average single American takes home about $36,000 annually in gross (pre-tax) earnings. After taxes – and after paying for his rent and food and utilities and – lately, Obamacare – there’s not much left available for a car payment.

And it’s not just the car payment.

When you make payments – when you finance a car – you are obliged to carry full coverage insurance on the car since it’s not actually your car until it’s paid off. Lenders require comprehensive coverage on their car until you’ve paid it off. This adds, on average, about another $120 each month to the cost of new car ownership.

Which means the average total car payment is really around $650 per month.

If you live in a state that taxes vehicle ownership – which is about half the states in the country – the monthly nut goes up again. The taxes – which are typically applied each year – are based on the “book value” of the vehicle. The average tax is about $250 per year, but it’s highest on new cars because they’re new. It takes several years for the value of a car to drop to half or less its original value.

In the meanwhile, you pay the state – in addition to the  insurance mafia and the lender.

And not just the property tax, either. There is also the sales tax on the purchase price. In Virginia, this is 4.5 percent of whatever you paid for the car. If the transaction price is $33,000 (which is the average price paid for a new car as of 2017) the tax tab in addition to that is $1,350.

Divide by 12 and add to the monthly nut.

Before you’ve even put gas in the tank, you’re looking at a total monthly cost-to-own of around $800.

This for an “asset” that depreciates the moment you acquire it and which will be worth perhaps 50 percent of what you agreed to pay for it by the time you actually pay it off.

What’s sad is that cars – like computers – ought to cost much less than they do, in real terms and relative to income. Just as you can buy a really good laptop PC for about $500 now, you ought to be able to buy a really good brand-new car for about $8,000 or so. But the reason you can buy the really good $500 laptop is because the government doesn’t mandate that they have every feature that a $2,800 MacBook Pro has. The choice is up to you.

When it comes to cars, the choice is up to Uncle. He insists every car meet what amounts to the MacBook Pro standard, with things like automated emergency braking (mandatory by model year 2022) the equivalent of forcing every PC builder to include a Retinal Display monitor – and leaving you no choice about whether to buy it. 

And since you can’t afford to buy it, you end up financing it. Or leasing it.

That has worked for many years, stuffing the cost under the rug and creating a false idea that all of this is somehow affordable, that the ever-increasing ownership cost of new cars can be endlessly absorbed by the buying public.

But it can’t be and – eventually – even the poultices of seven-year loans at nil or nearly nil interest and give-away leases can’t make the numbers work.

What then?

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MadMike
MadMike
March 5, 2018 4:30 pm

Bubble really popped?
Is the power still on?
If it is, then no, not yet.

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
March 5, 2018 4:32 pm

Greetings,

People ask me why I drive a 1989 pickup truck when I could afford a new car. I tell them that I can afford such things because I do not waste my money on such foolish things like, um, a new car.

Most of the people I see that drive around in new and expensive cars do so because they have no other way to express themselves. Their identity is tied up in how they show themselves to the rest of the community. Funny but I see the same thing happening with musical instruments in that the most expensive name brand instruments are usually bought by people that have no intention of actually using the instrument. No different than the guy that buys a pickup truck that NEVER hauls anything.

It is all for show.

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
  NickelthroweR
March 5, 2018 5:58 pm

I am a musician. That being said I have guitars. I also have arthritis. It is not due to lack of time that I do not pick up my instruments. It is due to pain. I can play many musical instruments. Violin, Mandolin, Banjo, Bass, Piano & Guitar. However, my infirmaries have made it impossible to spend more than five minutes (on stringed instruments) and ten minutes on keyboards. I normally do not advertise this info but I do have to rebut your statement that people do this for show. I love my musical life. Sadly, my body can no longer accommodate it.

Have a great day!

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  None Ya Biz
March 5, 2018 8:07 pm

I think what Nickel’s talking about is old lawyers who haven’t played since they were 20 buying vintage instruments or “the guitar that was use on such-and-such a recording”. He’s in that business.

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
  Iska Waran
March 6, 2018 3:13 am

Greetings,

Exactly. A new Gibson Les Paul can run you $3000 easily. The problem is that you can not modify anything on the guitar to make it more playable (Les Pauls are notorious for their tuning issues) without crushing the value of the guitar. This makes that guitar more of a status symbol than a working man’s instrument. Gibson sees itself as a lifestyle brand more so than it does a company that makes iconic guitars. It no longer makes instruments that any teenager could ever afford but instead produces guitars for baby boomers to hang in their man caves. They sell it as an investment.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  None Ya Biz
March 5, 2018 9:56 pm

Cheers and best wishes to you. I can imagine that you may have the ability to repair and adjust instruments. Being able to repair and restore things to good working order is a satisfying hobby. During my spare time I like to restore antique furniture. I can also work on and refurbish something that very few are able to do anymore- repairing sewing machines. However, one time I picked up a World War II era industrial British Singer that weighed 96 pounds and it took over 3 weeks to get my back into order. I too understand the whole thing about aches and pain.

BeeUrSelf
BeeUrSelf
  NickelthroweR
March 5, 2018 8:43 pm

Exactly.

2002 Outback. 229,000 miles and still ticking.

Mark
Mark
  NickelthroweR
March 5, 2018 8:50 pm

I drive a 2000 Mazda B3000 and a 2000 Honda Civic both bought one year later…significant depreciation by the original owners. Both are now old, a little beat up, but still running hard. I like that.

I could drive anything I want but I put that $$$$$$ into PREP.

However, I do wrap a serious, heavy, too expensive SUV around the wife…but like Richard Harris said in MacArthur’s Park… “I will never get that recipe again.” (It already saved her life once).

Gotta take care of those ingredients.

James M Dakin
James M Dakin
March 5, 2018 4:36 pm

I’m getting up there in years and I’ve owned very few cars in my life. Mostly, when California had a surplus of Hippie VW’s selling for two months minimum wage. I did used to ride a motorcycle before they became trendy and expensive ( half the cost of the used VW’s ). But all ownerships never lasted long. I’ve just never seen a car as a necessity. Somehow I’ve managed to live all over the country without a vehicle. Lack of ownership is the real freedom, the exact opposite of the perceived wisdom. I’ve also managed to stay in relationships and employment the whole time. Too many people look at a car or a McMansion as if it were as vital as air. Just keep making that payment as we run out of oil, that seems pretty smart ( no, Fracking Fags, short term ultra low EROI fake fuel doesn’t make you energy independent ).

Dan
Dan
March 5, 2018 4:39 pm

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Wip
Wip
  Dan
March 5, 2018 5:04 pm

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Crimson avenger
Crimson avenger
  Wip
March 6, 2018 7:15 am

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kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
  Dan
March 5, 2018 5:11 pm

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OK, I looked it up: Not Safe For Work

Dan……..I never had time to look at the Internet while at work.

doug
doug
  Dan
March 5, 2018 7:55 pm

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Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421
  Dan
March 6, 2018 9:04 am

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Robert (QSLV)
Robert (QSLV)
  Dan
March 6, 2018 2:21 pm

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Anonymous
Anonymous
March 5, 2018 4:55 pm

From the link:

Tax Filing Status Adjusted Gross Income (AGI)

Married filing jointly $117,795

Married filing separately $64,819

Head of household $35,876

Widow/Widower $57,577

Single $34,940

And it’s in adjusted gross income, not gross earnings.

John Prokovich
John Prokovich
March 5, 2018 4:57 pm

1992 Accord EX ….77000 mi keeps on chuggin along…bought new

wdg
wdg
  John Prokovich
March 5, 2018 6:22 pm

Great car…I had one with over 300,000 km. It was running well when I sold it.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  John Prokovich
March 5, 2018 10:27 pm

“…keeps on chugging along”? At only 77,000 miles I should hope so. It’s hardly even broken in. At your rate of mileage accumulation (less than 3k/year), you’ll never need another car.

I sold my 1991 Civic a couple years back with almost 250k on the clock.

Penforce
Penforce
March 5, 2018 5:34 pm

If I’m paying your salary and you’re fucking around on my dime, some soft porn in the corners is the least of your worries.

Mustang
Mustang
March 5, 2018 6:30 pm

Good article. Agree with it 100%. I once figured up what the real actual cost of a $50,000 pickup over 7 years is. The actual cost is $107,700!!! Enough to buy a decent house to live in in my area. No thanks. I will keep driving my 84 Ford F250 with cheap ins. ($363 for a whole year) cheap personal property taxes ($7 a year) and if I get a scratch on it I really don’t care!

Wip
Wip
  Mustang
March 5, 2018 7:07 pm

+100

unit472/
unit472/
March 5, 2018 7:12 pm

I’d be concerned now about a new car today becoming obsolete if we are to believe the advances in self driving technology that are just ahead.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  unit472/
March 5, 2018 8:02 pm

That’s why I bought a new Toyota Rav4…great vehicle, price hasn’t increased, and I don’t want a self-driving car….

unit472/
unit472/
  pyrrhus
March 5, 2018 8:16 pm

I wonder if government has thought through the implications of self driving cars. Speeding tickets would become obsolete and how can you prosecute someone for DUI when they can claim they weren’t driving.

Chuck
Chuck
  unit472/
March 5, 2018 8:43 pm

They’ll prosecute for “operating” the vehicle while intoxicated. And intoxicated will be BAC >=.04 or some such bullshit.

Mad as hell
Mad as hell
  unit472/
March 6, 2018 10:59 am

First off, Government NEVER thinks anything through. That would mean that smarter people actually worked there. Second, they WILL find a way. If there are no speeding tickets to be had, they will find some way of direct taxation, such as a “sir charge” for owning the vehicle, or if we are not allowed to own it, a “use fee” similar to car rental “convenience” fees as the airport for using a futuristic Johnny Cab.
See, people with guns, similar to the kings of Europe, always find a way to keep you a serf. Why? Well, because they can, and at least in American – YOU LET THEM, for the children of course.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
March 5, 2018 8:59 pm

I just want to buy a car that doesn’t have a computer monitor on the dashboard.
I am going to end up buying a donkey.

Card802
Card802
March 6, 2018 6:58 am

Legacy costs are also a huge burden for US auto makers and when a retiree dies, the surviving spouse still receives a partial pension and health care. There is more money in legacy cost per vehicle then the cost of the steel, and it’s not going to get any better.

I’m going on 59, I’ve bought two new vehicles in my lifetime, one at 21 and another at 40, financing both, the rest I paid cash for.

Aquapura
Aquapura
March 6, 2018 3:00 pm

I’d like to know where Mr. Peters gets the magical figure that a new car “should” cost $8000. I don’t disagree that safety mandates add cost to a vehicle but largely what drives vehicle price is the type of vehicle that people chose to buy everyday. When was the last time anyone went tire shopping. Those truck tires on all the SUV’s you see out there, they cost more than the little tires on sedans like the Camry. Doesn’t stop people from passing the sedan for the SUV at the dealer lot. 4-wheel-drive and all-wheel-drive both cost more than your classic FWD or RWD setup, but again people don’t want that because it’s not good-enuf. Same with leather interiors, heated/cooled seats, panoramic sunroofs, navigation, automatic parallel parking and so on. These aren’t safety mandate items.

There are cheap vehicles out there. We call the econo-boxes for a reason. Sales are falling for those vehicles. Ford is offshoring the Focus production because American’s don’t buy them…but foreigners do.

So the financing bubble that affords poor people their Canyonero might be popping but don’t blame your “Uncle” for your own stupidity in overspending on a vehicle.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Aquapura
March 7, 2018 2:19 am

OK, OK, I get it you like your Yugo.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
March 6, 2018 6:41 pm

I look at new cars like it was explained to me around year 2000. New Corvette = $40K
To get $40k after paying taxes, and paying overhead at the office to generate over $50k profit, it would take producing $100k of crowns and root canals -> if you paid cash for the car and did not take checks or extend credit for payments at the office.

I paid cash for my 2003 crew cab 4WD Silverado 2500 HD Diesel when my alimony payments ended. It still runs great with a mere 160,000 miles on it.
I paid a bit over $10,000 cash for a demo Impala with 9000 miles in 2010. Best car deal I ever made. At age 70, they will last me for life hopefully.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 7, 2018 2:12 am

I sent this to my son telling him to hang onto his vehicle until it is too costly to keep. Should have kept my 75 Monte Carlo and my wife’s Toyota pickup. Would have been way cheaper.

Car Costs (1982-present)
75 Monte Carlo $1,479.14
83 Toyota Pickup $9,127.32
84 Volvo DL $14,204.32
85 Volvo GL $8,165.27
90 Subaru Legacy Wgn $7,300.00
88 Ford Festiva $5,994.80
79 Brown Volvo Wgn $711.92
Red Sentra +$300.00
White Sentra $100.00
91 Subaru Legacy Sdn $1,000.00
94 Nissan Pathfinder $23,038.00
96 Honda Odyssey EX $17,074.41
98 Mazda B3000 Pkup $17,456.46
01 Subaru Legacy Wgn $18,534.09
03 Honda Element $9,652.42
94 Honda del Sol $3,200.00
04 Saturn Vue $9,499.04
08 Honda Fit $5,339.10
04 Honda Element $13,143.39
13 GMC Terrain $29,889.04

Total cost to Buy: $194,668.72

20 cars averages to $9,733.43 per car.
Over 35 years equals $5,561.96 per year or $463.49 per month

This is just cost to buy minus trade in/sale price. Not counting finance charges, insurance, gas, maintenance, accessories, paint jobs, detailing, car washes, repair fees, registration yearly.