Offensive Jokes: The UK’s Latest Absurd National Security Threat

Authored by Scott Greer via The Daily Caller,

The United Kingdom is once again taking down serious threats to its national security.

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This time, the UK brought to justice a comedian who taught his girlfriend’s dog how to do a Roman salute.

On Tuesday, Scottish YouTuber Mark Meechan – better known as “Count Dankula” – was found guilty of the hate crime of being “Grossly Offensive” for teaching a pug how to imitate the fascist gesture.

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The stunt was not meant to promote fascism or white supremacy in any way and was merely a joke done to irritate Count Dankula’s girlfriend. The court appeared unfazed by this argument, and found him guilty of a crime that could result in two months of jail-time.

Whether you find the joke offensive or not, it’s hard to argue how a sieg-heiling pug is a threat to anyone, especially when it was not meant as an endorsement of national socialism. This dog is not going to create a Woofen-SS division just because he can raise up his paw in return for a treat.

And Dankula is certainly not the first British citizen to play up the Nazis for laughs or apolitical shock.

Monty Python once had a skit where the crew dressed up as Nazis and threw up the salute for comedy. They were not arrested for such an act.

The original punk rock scene were fond of the shock value of Nazi symbols, even though most of the bands were very left-wing and did it to offend conservatives. The Sex Pistols are still cultural icons in spite of their Roman salutes.

The media’s favorite royal Prince Harry dressed up as a Nazi, complete with a swastika armband, at a 2005 costume party. That poor choice has not detracted from the glowing praise he usually receives from the press and he was never charged with a crime.

Interestingly enough, teaching your dog how to sieg heil angered actual Nazis. The Third Reich tried to punish a Finnish man who taught his dog how to Roman salute because government officials took grave offense at such an act.

Comedy is often going to be tasteless and offensive. That’s the nature of the art. Thankfully, free expression is protected in the United States and performers don’t have to worry about their shock tactics landing them in jail.

The same cannot be said for the UK.

Hate speech laws ensure Britons don’t have a right to free expression. If somebody finds your views or jokes “grossly offensive,” you can end up jail. If your politics aren’t politically correct, you can be barred entry from the country. If you criticize Islam or another sacred cow on social media, you can see police busting down your door.

This is the kind of country one has with hate speech laws. Political dissent is suppressed under the guise of “public safety” and promoting “tolerance.” But criminalizing speech accomplishes neither of those objectives. All it does is silence figures who deviate from the elite’s dogmas.

Even avowed progressive comic Ricky Gervais knew this was a problem when he expressed his contempt for Dankula’s conviction Tuesday. “A man has been convicted in a UK court of making a joke that was deemed ‘grossly offensive’. If you don’t believe in a person’s right to say things that you might find ‘grossly offensive’, then you don’t believe in Freedom of Speech,” Gervais tweeted Tuesday.

The British comic demonstrated his point in rebutting a leftist who tried to his mock him for being “offended.”

Criminalizing offensive jokes does nothing for public safety — it only undermines free speech and sends a message to dissidents to get in line.

The UK has many problems, such as thousands of jihadis living in its country and rising knife crime. Fascist-saluting pugs are not one of them.

The purpose of free speech laws is to protect unpopular and offensive views. There’s no need to safeguard the views of the powerful.

A society does not uphold free expression when it only allows “inoffensive” views to be expressed.

It’s hard to say you’re a beacon of freedom when you throw people in jail for jokes, but British leaders lack the self-awareness to realize that truth.

“The thing which makes it so ridiculous is that this is over a joke, I’m a Youtuber, I made the joke video for a laugh… but then people wanted to misrepresent that.”

 

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starfcker

I found the video. It’s restricted, you can’t link it. Google, M8 yer dugs a nazi

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This is why I believe it’s important for all of us to, whenever convenient, say fuck, nigger, retard, fag, dike, raghead, bitch,
white trash, Pocahontas and any other unacceptable word. Use it or lose it.

Jake
Jake

The Brits made Pocahontas change her name to Rebecca. At the time they said only a white trash, retard dike bitch raghead would have a name like Pocahontas. Sounds like a bleedin’ wog. Where’s me pint?

TACOTACO
TACOTACO

Tommy Robinson is gaining traction in the UK. We will see what happens this Saturday in Liverpool. This may be the “awoke” moment in Britain. If not, I do not see any improvement in “free speech” for HollyO. I remember my grandparents saying, “Nothing in this world is free.” Their statement of truth perplexed me and still does to this day. I fear the end of “free will” as we know it. Please say it ain’t so!

22winmag - refugee from ZeroHedge who just couldn't take the explosion of doom porn and the avalanche of near-hourly Bitcoin stories
22winmag - refugee from ZeroHedge who just couldn't take the explosion of doom porn and the avalanche of near-hourly Bitcoin stories

The Bellamy salute, so refreshing to see even dogs doing it.

Now if we can only get white women and Gen Z onboard!

Anonymous
Anonymous

What a nice place. And I thought Oliver Twist’s life sucked.

bigfoot
bigfoot

It’s high time for the Irish to invade that island and make them grow potatoes. Except for the Muslim males who would be isolated and given rifles, ammo, and pictures of naked women.

Bob P
Bob P

I think the entire political and bureaucratic classes in (formerly) Great Britain need to be shipped out to Saudi Arabia or North Korea where they’ll fit right in.

steve
steve

Here’s the video. Arrested and convicted for this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu47muw–A4

RiNS

If that video gets taken down then here is link to Dropbox.

Fuck the thought police in UK!
If this insanity ain’t stopped ole Blightly in 50 years will be one giant shithole……

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ip0mrdjbi9gjs0i/count%20dankula.mp4?dl=0

Iska Waran
Iska Waran

Never gets old

Roberto de Medici
Roberto de Medici

YOU ASKED US FOR HELP
AND WE CAME AND SAVED THE HOUSE OF WINDSOR
NOW HARRY’S GOING TO MIX THE BLOOD UP
WE ALLOWED YOU TO KEEP THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
SO HARRY COULD 1) HAVE A WEDDING AND 2) IT WILL BE IN ENGLISH
YET HARRY FELT IT APPROPRIATE TO SNUB OUR PRESIDENT.
DON’T CALL US AGAIN ASS HOLES
YOU CREATED YOUR MUSLIM PROBLEM…GROW SOME BALLS AND TAKE CARE OF IT YOURSELF

RiNS

I just thought I’d shitpost these guys

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Come on you guys lets all shitpost these fuckers!

Mark H
Mark H

Slaughter Republicans.
Slaughter Republicans!
Do you want to slaughter Republicans?
Is it time to slaughter Republicans?
And on and on 23 times……

I guess a few might find that offensive? Why is that any different from “Gas the Jews”?

Except, as far as I know nobody has actually yet commited mass extermination of Republicans (even though it seems that a lot of hardline Dems would very much like to)? Maybe if several million Reps had historically actually been slaughtered then opinion would be stronger?

Count Dankula wasn’t found guilty of violating free speech. In essence, he was found guilty of being an attention seeking hateful twat. Should that be a crime? I’m not sure, though I tend to think probably not, but this isn’t quite the story that most of you think, and I’m getting pretty fed up with having stories like this distorted to fit an agenda like somehow the UK is leading the US?! In my experience you guys are WAY ahead of us in many bad ways. Nobody over here objected to a dog doing a Nazi salute. Although some (a few) would consider that “bad taste” in the UK, that isn’t actually a crime or something we get angry about. He was found guilty of being “grossly offensive” under a law that applies to broadcasting – seemingly brought by the state? He has yet to be sentenced but the maximum is 2 months of jail time and I doubt he will get anything custodial. The law has effectively said “tutt tutt” to him. Should we be concerned? If you want to protect freedom of speech then probably. Should we be outraged? Fuck no! This guy is being a bit of dick.

Is there a problem here? Maybe, possibly even probably. He’s been judged to cross a line. Is the line in the wrong place? Maybe, but at least that’s being debated. Should ALL speech be free? I don’t know. I can think of a few things that I probably don’t think should be allowed. But this is very much a shades of grey situation rather than something which is black and white. But at least the discussion about that is happening right out in the open and MSM over here is part of the group that is pushing against this decision.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5522881/Man-filmed-pug-giving-Nazi-salutes-convicted-court.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

Ottomatik
Ottomatik

Mark H-
Wherever you belong, it is not here.
Fear, groveling, and subservience have no place under the light of liberty, godspeed.

RiNS

Is there a problem here? Maybe, possibly even probably.

What the fuck does that even mean? That was the most lamed cucked attempt at defending free speech maybe that I probably ever had the problem of reading.

It was a fucking Pug Dog giving a Nazi salute snowflake. What you wrote was in bad taste!

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Captain Willard

Milán Kundera wrote a great book about this called “The Joke” which I recommend. The first sign of Totalitarianism is when humor has to go underground.

Dust off your old Solzhenitsyn too…..

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