WINTER IS COMING (PART TWO)

“Don’t think you can escape the Fourth Turning the way you might today distance yourself from news, national politics, or even taxes you don’t feel like paying. History warns that a Crisis will reshape the basic social and economic environment that you now take for granted. The Fourth Turning necessitates the death and rebirth of the social order. It is the ultimate rite of passage for an entire people, requiring a luminal state of sheer chaos whose nature and duration no one can predict in advance.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning

 

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In Part One of this article I laid out the reasons for Gray Champions arising to meet challenges during crisis periods in history. We are ten years into this Crisis and I have been pondering where we go from here. The plot line of the Game of Thrones has opened my eyes to the fact there isn’t just one Gray Champion during a Fourth Turning. During the Civil War, Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee were Transcendental prophet generation representatives of the Confederacy. Abraham Lincoln and William Tecumseh Sherman were Gray Champions of the Union.

These were men who would do anything to further their cause, from ordering thousands of men to their deaths on Cemetery Ridge, to burning down cities, to suspending the writ of Habeas Corpus, and seceding from the Union. They were destined to brandish their terrible swift swords in achieving total indisputable victory. But, we know only one side could win.

During the World War II/Great Depression crisis FDR is known as the Gray Champion who took drastic measures on the economic front with his New Deal and sent 16 million young men into battle on a scale never seen in history. Douglass MacArthur commanded many of those men in battles to the death across the Pacific. What is less discussed is the fact Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin were also members of the Missionary prophet generation and were the Gray Champions of their nations.

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Churchill defied all odds in holding out during the darkest hours and showed no mercy in bombing Germany into submission when he gained the upper hand. Stalin, a man who had slaughtered millions during his purges, was willing to sacrifice millions more to halt Hitler from conquering his country. The alliance of these three Gray Champions virtually assured victory for the Allies in World War II. An epic crisis required unyielding men to face the challenges without blinking – resulting in the deaths of 65 million people.

Gray Champions are not necessarily good, admirable, or moral. Most have narcissistic tendencies and have at least as many enemies as allies. All of the men I’ve named were deeply flawed and in some cases malevolent. What they all had in common was tremendous confidence in their own abilities and an unbreakable determination to achieve the outcomes they desired. Winning was all that mattered to these men.

Americans, blinded by their normalcy bias, never see a Fourth Turning until it arrives with fire and fury. When it arrives, many want to turn back time to the glorious days of spring or summer, but it is not to be. Winter is upon us and even though we wish a Gray Champion wasn’t needed, come he must and come he will. And they won’t be asking for the opinions of the sheep before taking control.

“A lion does not concern himself with the opinion of sheep.” – Tywin – Game of Thrones

During the last Fourth Turning, the three Gray Champion leaders (FDR, Churchill, Stalin) were all on the same side. They were strong willed and had violent disagreement at times, but they all had the same immediate goal – defeating the Axis Powers. I had been focusing on Trump as the sole Gray Champion, but hadn’t considered other Gray Champion leaders who may have a major impact during this Fourth Turning.

Two powerful dictators – Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping – are also Prophet Generation leaders who are ruthless, unyielding, shrewd, and most important, strident nationalists. These men rule their countries with an iron fist and do not blink when faced with challenges from other nations. They are powerful men with large egos who cast large shadows on the world stage. Opponents are terminated with extreme prejudice in Russia and China. They do not operate under the same moral standards as non-authoritarian nations. The legacies of Stalin and Mao run deep in their countries.

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“Power resides where men believe it resides. It’s a trick, a shadow on the wall. And a very small man can cast a very large shadow.”Lord Varys – Game of Thrones

This alignment of Gray Champion leaders is significantly dissimilar to the World War II alliance. Trump is the more powerful rival of the other two, but is hog tied by domestic opposition on many fronts. All three of these leaders are facing financial, demographic, domestic, and military challenges, creating tensions within their countries and internationally. Putin and Jinping have been pushed towards greater cooperation as Trump and the American Empire have used their economic and military power to intimidate and provoke both of these nuclear powers.

There is already an undeclared currency, resource and financial war being waged between Russia, China and the U.S. Proxy conflicts in the Middle East and relentless tensions on the Korea Peninsula have heated up in the last year. The current Wag the Dog scenario playing out in Syria has further alienated the voices of reason within the U.S., Russia and China. The threat of a real shooting war between these nuclear powers is the highest in decades. These three Gray Champions are vying for dominance on the world stage. There will be winners and losers.

“When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground.” Cersei – Game of Thrones

The American Empire has dominated the world stage since the end of World War II. There were no economic or military rivals over many decades, except for the corrupt and ultimately bankrupt Soviet Union. Its demise left the U.S. as the only major power standing. But arrogance, hubris, debasement of its currency, military overreach, and endemic corruption have, like an unrelenting disease, weakened the empire and made it susceptible to new rivals.

The global chaos and disorder being created around the globe by the teetering American Empire, flailing about in its extended death throes, is accelerating rapidly and setting the stage for the inevitable bloody Fourth Turning conflict. There will be no compromise or diplomatic resolution of this war for control of the 21st century. We are witnessing a modern day version of the Game of Thrones. There are many “kings” vying for the throne as leader of the world, but only one can win. Intrigue, broken alliances, back stabbing, military conquest, secret deals, and eventually bloody struggles will decide the victor. There will be no happy endings.

“If you think this has a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention.” – Ramsay – Game of Thrones

Further complicating this Fourth Turning for our Gray Champion Trump are a couple other Gray Champions opposing him on the domestic front. Hillary Clinton and Robert Mueller are also prophet generation figures who continue to dog Trump, making his everyday existence a non-stop twitter battle for his presidency. Despite losing the election, and going away like most losers, Clinton is on a perpetual speaking tour raking in millions while trashing Trump on a daily basis.

Mueller appears to be the tool by which the Deep State insiders are attempting a coup to bring down Trump by any means necessary. There is a daily litany of indictments, FBI raids, leaked documents, bimbo eruptions, tell all books, exclusive interviews by the propaganda media of traitorous scum like Clapper, Brennan and Comey, and the accusations and counter accusations between Trump and his foes. Trump is learning a hard lesson from the Game of Thrones.

“I swear to you, sitting a throne is a thousand times harder than winning one.”King Robert Baratheon – George R.R. Martin, Game of Thrones

The current configuration of foreign and domestic Gray Champions does not bode well for the second half of this Fourth Turning. But it does support the dynamics driving this Fourth Turning – debt, civic decay, and global disorder. The reason the American Empire is in terminal decline is the unpayable trillions in debt and unfunded promises made by corrupt politicians destined to bankrupt the country. That which is unsustainable will not be sustained.

This unsustainable fiscal condition is driving the irrational desperate actions of the Wall Street controlled Federal Reserve, the production of fake economic data to keep the ignorant masses sedated, and the rigging of markets to boost the wealth of the billionaire class while throwing the average family under the bus. There is nothing normal about the frantic flailing attempts to keep this empire of debt from collapsing. All actions by politicians, government apparatchiks, the military industrial complex and central bankers must be viewed through this lens of reality.

The Deep State invisible government is apoplectic at their imminent demise and is using every tool in their deceptive repertoire to maintain their power, control and wealth. Utilization of surveillance state assets, false flags, fake news propaganda, blackmail, bought off “experts”, rigged financial markets, creating foreign enemy bogeymen and banking cabal machinations have pushed the world towards global conflict. And that is what they want. War is good business and further enriches the Deep State. We are just cannon fodder to them.

The seething hatred permeating American society with left wing social justice warrior nutjobs on one side and bloodthirsty warmongering neocon Nazis on the other, leaves no room for compromise or common ground. The vast majority of the American populace is either blissfully ignorant or delusional when it comes to the hard truths facing the nation. The Deep State funds the ongoing civic decay in order to keep the public distracted by inconsequential social issues. Fantasizing about a savior coming to the rescue and singlehandedly solving our problems is wishful thinking. Denial is not a plan. It is time to face the hard truths.

“Most men would rather deny a hard truth than face it.”Tyrion Lannister – George R.R. Martin, Game of Thrones

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In Part Three I will attempt to make some sense of the seemingly indecipherable events happening on a daily basis and try to peer through the fog to get a glimpse of the future. Will it be a boot stamping on our faces forever or a new Spring dawning across our land.

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hardscrabble farmer

The trouble with understanding the S&H approach to cyclical/generational seasons is that like those on Earth, each particular region is in it’s own phase. China, for example, is where America was in the 1960’s. Russia is in a 1st Turning. How these overlaps play out on a global scale are intensely complex and not at all in sync with one another.

I have been thinking about the comparison of Trump to Lincoln over the past week or so- how both came to power intensely hated by at least half of the population and both hamstrung by administrations that worked diligently to impede the plans of the Presidency and to intentionally undermine it’s authority. It wasn’t until after the Battle of Shiloh that Lincoln was able to discover a single General willing to do his bidding, having watched McClellan drag his feet and dodge every engagement in order to both build up his base and to prepare for a future political move and ruin the chances of Lincoln ever running for re-election. And then Lincoln fired him.

Like it has been said a thousand times, history doesn’t repeat, but it definitely rhymes.

Great to see you have found your voice again, this series is absolutely stellar.

TACOTACO
TACOTACO

The Romans debased their currency as well, all empires do. But it is the Romans that we have read about. We know how this ends. We know we have debased our currency to nil since going off the gold standard in 1971, same as the Romans went off their silver standard.

Read your history.

You might not be able to avoid what is ahead, but you will not be surprised!

Cheers!

wholy1
wholy1

Good analogy – the Roman, then “Brutish” and now “Merkaan”. But the time span of each appears to shorten. Is Time RELATIVE – the “Quickening” a non-linear “process/progression” similar to an atomic “critical mass” event? I have no idea when entropy will “fully manifest” again. But I suspect that the “Merkaan” Empire’s span will be much shorter by multiples.
Inland, rural, on a portion of arable, UNencumbered ground, gathered/grouped, gunned, gardened and . . . S-I-M-P-L-I-F-I-E-D yet? Wanna venture a guess on the [very uncomfortable] survival span of an “urbie” compared to a “ruralite”?

curtmilr
curtmilr

Agreed, HSF, a very fine piece of work in progress!

And I truly appreciate your own insight that each nation is at a different place within their own cycle of Turnings. The whole world doesn’t operate on the Anglo-American cycle, though it is certainly influenced by it!

Which leads to the question of who is the Gray Champion contrary to Trump akin to Jefferson Davis vs. Lincoln? Gov. Jerry Brown? Soros? Hillary? I frankly don’t see that towering figure, though I see a matrix of secondary level ones that could each strike telling blows, Mueller being the most obvious.

Patriots Day is looming! The IOG Report(s) are beginning to drop. Events are compressing to a crescendo and climax. The stage is set, and the overture is heard, but the audience is more than restless. What is to come? It is almost subterranean, not quite out in the open, yet obvious.

Interesting times indeed!

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow

U.S. Grant. Yes the Battle of Shiloh was a real turn about. Wiley Sword captures it well in his book “Bloody April”. We studied that battle when I was stationed in Tennessee back in the early 90’s and had a special guided tour of the battlefield by a historian that literally brought the battle to life. Made you feel like you were there. Interesting study.

The rapidly changing events of today, from one day to the next, and on a global scale, sure make the world A LOT more complicated than I ever thought possible. The more we know, the more we know we don’t know. It’s a full time job keeping up with the truth and it leaves little time for study of the past like the battle of Shiloh.

Good post HSF… Chip

James the Wanderer

“And years later, grown men would blanch and weep, remembering Shiloh”.
We may well have our own Shilohs in this 4th Turning. Are you prepared to stand your ground, defending your family from the ignorant, the improvident and those insane with ideology? Can you shoot down those who would murder you before they can get too close? Weary of soul and hardened heart, can you kill?
Each of us must decide whether we are worthy of surviving to see another day. And the choice will not be once, or twice, but likely again and again as you become a target to a new idiot, new group, new band of bandits.
Prepare now – those who are armed may not want to sell you theirs when it’s too late to get ready.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus

There is a larger cycle at work here as well–the cycle of empires..America, having foolishly chosen to become an empire, is rapidly declining for all the usual reasons: a corrupt and profligate elite, the importation of people from non-assimilable cultures, the waste of public money on bread and circuses, the use of foreign mercenaries, the taxing of productive enterprise into oblivion.Sir John Glubb also observed that the elevation of women and sports celebrities to high status and roles in government tends to occur near the end..All of been seen many times before, and will be seen again in the future. Most empires last no more than 250 years, and we are fast approaching that number.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy

Since the American empire is in a continuous state of flux as it circles the drain the question is who or how many get sucked down in the maelstrom surely to come ! As for a gray guide , leader or hero to rescue us from the hell hole our lazy complacency has created like the chains forged in life like Scrooge & Marley I doubt it will appear . To keep with the one liner fictional metaphors perhaps the Kurt Russel movie Soldier said it best when asked , what will you do , you are out numbered his response was cold and direct : “I am going to kill them all Sir !”

NoneYaBiz
NoneYaBiz

Soldier is my favorite Kurt Russel movie. He goes from being a hired gun for the state to a protector of the people that reside on his adopted planet. His character doesn’t ever say much during the film but his dawning awareness that protecting community matters more than the state makes the movie worth watching for me. It is one of the very few movies I have in my collection.

Additionally, Connie Nielson is super hot in that movie. 🙂 Is it just me or does she seem to get better with age. She is just drop dead beautiful in Wonder Woman! Woo hoo!

On another note, I do not view Putin as a dictator. The Chinese dolt yes but not Putin. I do think the U.S. helps him immensely by villanizing him. The people of Russia see the U.S. insulting him and immediately think, “Hey! He must be doing something right! He’s got the U.S. bashing him. Let’s reelect him to office come the next election!”.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Nonna-ubiz..
Putins crime was draining his own swamp and kicking out our deep state rapists.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow

Great post Jim. IMO it will be the boot… Chip

Foot in the Forest
Foot in the Forest

Excellent writing and thoughtful work. A question to all. Yes the grey men and women play major, minor, and supporting roles during the turning but what of the ‘OTHER THINGS’ The revolution was saved by a freak fog allowing the grey man and his army to live to fight another day. At Midway a chance encounter between opposing forces lead to a lost squadron entering the fray at the most precipitous moment. That spot is still rendered honors by American naval aviation as point luck. The question is probably unanswerable but I still have to ask if only for myself. What of {no particular order} GOD, LUCK, KARMA, DESTINY, or are they all one in the same?

raven
raven

Is it time to suspend the elections and repudiate the fucking debt, while it can still be done on our terms? The suspense is killing me. Seems to me that we can join with Russia and China in the annihilation of the Globalist Deep State, clean out the Marxist and other parasites among us and set the ship of state back on it’s reinforced foundations fairly quickly. Let’s get this party started!

Oh, also not a fan of inevitability. More often than not, the prognosticators get it wrong!

Happy Easter cucks. 😉

Uncola

The first two installments of this series have been elegantly sublime. The upcoming third installment, for which I anxiously await, will no doubt continue in like manner.

Thank you, Jim, for another succession of excellent, thought-provoking articles.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine

When I first read your comment …”continue in like manner” my eyes blurred for a second and I thought you wrote “come in like a hammer”. But maybe it will hit us like a hammer?

Anonymous
Anonymous
Mary Christine

That, too!

Uncola

MC – I like your version better. In fact, for the subversive sake of common ribaldry, I almost responded thusly:

“That’s what SHE said.”

But, alas, such off-color and lewd indecency is not befitting of someone striving to rise above such vulgar unseemliness; even if only for reasons of unabashed ostentatiousness. Therefore, your initial misinterpretation shall instead, and at once, be filed into my ever-expanding cognitive folder entitled: “things I should have said”.

EL Coyote (EC)
EL Coyote (EC)

This from the guy who was singing Marvin Gaye’s Let’s Get it On not too long ago.

1)michael keane

‘Lotta words. . . “Gray Champions” and Philosphists furthering their “Cause”, “with only one winner”…

Here’s a word: “HOGWASH”.

The puppeteers are the winners; thus far, ALWAYS.

Through the “Organic Act of 1871”, the US was rendered a “Corporate-Indenture” to the City of London.

Hand-Job Romney has it thus: “Corporations are People, my friend”.

Actually, Mitt, NO they AREN’T and I am NOT your friend.

The deceivers are English and Swiss central bankers ad infinitum ad blabbity-blabbity, blah-blah-blah.

The Treaty of Paris in 1783, ended the shooting war and also made the Monarch of Angle-Land the “Arch-Treasurer” of what later became the United States.

The Remedy to the present Nonsense is to unmask, investigate, prosecute and incarcerate the bankers.

Article One, Section Eight, paragraph six, explains quite clearly: “The Congress shall have the power … To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States…”.
= 1 8 6

Pardon the pun, but “Currently”, there are over 1200 Trillions in counterfeit “coin” owed to any number of REMIC “Trusts” that are also counterfeit; for the unitiated: “REMIC Trusts ARE SECURITIES”…

There are zero legitimate mortgage “loans” in the “REMIC Trusts” = the “Mortgage-Backed Securities” are COUNTERFEIT!!!!!!

The ANSWER is found in the Constitution; specifically: 1 8 6… But, by all means keep bloviating Nonsense about “Grey warriors” and “Sophists” spouting Nonsense; “Philo” “Sophists” or otherwise.

~ Michael Keane 4/17/18

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Mikey..
You’ve gone so far into yourself you need a window in. your stomach to see where you are going.

Unreconstructed
Unreconstructed

It’s called a “Plexiotomy.” Where a piece of plexiglass is grafted into the abdominal wall so people with their head up their ass can see where they are going.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Flea, there are times you have to jump through your own asshole to meet a challenge but doing so to find a safe space is not a wise move, comforting as the warmth and darkness may be.
EC

Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421

Impressive that you left out the word “joo”.

1)michael keane

I feel adding the misdirection of religion as counterproductive, even as it plays into the hands of the puppeteers. I always suggest anyone interested in this discussion will find “All the Plenary’s Men”, by John Titus, a marvelous example the world is on the verge of better understanding who the true criminal Filth really are.

TJF
TJF

@HSF, I thought S&H wrote that WW2 being nearly a global affair reset everyone so we are all pretty much on similar cycles in terms of the generations and turnings. Based on that why would Russia and/or Chine be on a different turning than us?

TPC
TPC

The West is split between those who wish for the freedoms they thought they once had, and those who are so afraid of freedom they would plunge the world in blood and chaos to avoid it.

China and Russia are much more monolithic.

The West has the wealth, the talent, and the markets. We hold damn near EVERY card, but are so afraid of our own lies that we just keep doubling down on failure rather than enact real progress. Because of this fear, the door has been opened for the Russians and Chinese to step onto the world stage.

The West has chosen indolence, debt, and shadows. The East has chosen diligence, commodities, and reality.

The only way we win this contest is to get back to our roots and become a civilization of production and real progress once again. People are too lazy in their current ways, only a Fourth Turning will shift them from their decayed roots.

Is the character of the people of the West strong enough to weather such a storm? Will we rise to the challenge, and build a brighter future for humanity, with the powers of the East serving the dual purpose of motivator and competitor?

Or will we choose to nuke everything until it glows and end it all right now? Sadly, the answer to that question burns at the heart of a bare handful of people. If that.

No matter what happens, I promise you this: We have not seen mankind’s apotheosis. Should this Fourth Turning usher in a Dark Age plagued by Nuclear Winter and fractured nations there will still be those who rise from the ashes and chase their dreams to greater heights than we can possibly imagine.

grace country pastor

“No matter what happens, I promise you this: We have not seen mankind’s apotheosis.”

Apotheosis = Deification.

Gen 3:5… “…and ye shall be as gods…”

Do you understand? Such a thought is as old as humanity itself. Destined to fail.

Anonymous
Anonymous

It also means “pinnacle.”

TPC
TPC

Above Anon was me.

I meant “pinnacle” as in “this isn’t the best humanity has to offer.”

Gayle
Gayle

As an individual swept up in the current tide of history, the task is to grasp reality and then respond in a way that increases a chance for survival. This fourth turning promises to be especially savage due to the array of technological tools that can be called forth to crush whatever opposition threatens a powerful entity.

I -and you – are already caught in a web (ever wonder why they named it that?) from which we cannot escape without enduring significant hardship and deprivation. Although science has impacted the world in ways that were unimaginable only 50 years ago, human nature is impenetrable and intractable. It remains depraved and glorious, prideful and humble, greedy and generous. Trying to remain a good guy in our current environment, in which the bad guys seem to have the upper hand, is a formidable challenge.

To navigate through the powerful lies and propaganda to locate truth is becoming a bitter pastime. (We on this site, trying to define what Q is, have collectively experienced the quandary and the emotional investment needed to pick a truth.) Balancing reason and intuition requires intellectual gyrations that tire a brain. Sometimes people mock the truth you own. One response, the deadly one, is to escape into some addictive pastime to find comfort.

I find myself wanting to withdraw into a very small world bordered by nature (truth), love of friends and family (truth), and literature which testifies to the power of good defeating evil (truth). The forces arrayed against me seem too formidable to confront, much less battle. St. George and his dragon don’t resonate with me right now.

I recognize this is a dangerous, defeatist attitude abetted by the lure of escapism. It is not the stuff of remnants who remain to fight, not the stuff of faith and hope. It would probably be a good tactic to take days away from the madness on a regular basis. One could ponder the commandment to have a day of rest (removing oneself from the lunacy) once a week as a means to a better outlook.

Thank you Admin for the good work.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine

Very thoughtful comment,Gayle.

Mary Christine

“I find myself wanting to withdraw into a very small world bordered by nature (truth), love of friends and family (truth), and literature which testifies to the power of good defeating evil (truth).”

“Philippians 4:8 English Standard Version (ESV)
8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.”

This is the only way we can stay sane.

We will have battles ahead of us. Not necessarily of the military type for most of us “more mature” of age. Nevertheless, we will still battle, to keep our sanity, most likely. But we should never give in to a defeatist attitude. That is the way of despair and once we despair the enemy has won.

Gayle
Gayle

The source of that verse is part of the literature I referred to . Thanks for the reminder.

Llpoh
Llpoh

One of the reasons religion exists is to give hope to those that will not see good triumph over evil during life. Good does not necessarily triumph over evil. In fact, it is quite rare. And hence religion: “yeah, I know you get a shit sandwich while alive, but heaven will be great!”

As Admin says, the Gray Champions will not necessarily be good. But they will come.

A Creature wth Long Claws and Sharp Teeth
A Creature wth Long Claws and Sharp Teeth

Good versus Evil Truth?

Fairy Tales Abound. The winners are ‘good’ and losers are ‘evil’.

Your admitted tact for the 4th revolution is a withdrawal to NATURE (a most commendable idea) but remain vulnerable because of illusory concepts and benign terminology.

Good Luck! LOL

Gayle
Gayle

The Good loses a lot of battles, but it eventually wins the war.

Fairy tales are some of the truest stories.

Are you a cat?

Llpoh
Llpoh

Gayle – when does that happen? When history is written by the victors? Or in heaven? The good get their asses kicked on a regular basis. I personally do not want to win the war after I am dead.

You do not win wars by dying for your cause, but making some other poor bastard die for theirs (apologies to Patton). And thus it is often very difficult to separate the good from the evil.

Gayle
Gayle

Llpoh
You ask heavy questions. Good and evil? Which one are you?

You have run a successful business for many years. Were you good to your employees, giving a fair wage and encouragement when a job was done well? Or did you take advantage of them and discount their aspirations? I assume your company could not have thrived for very long if the latter was the case.

Evil brings fear and suffering and is devoid of creativity and light. It can only feed itself on more evil and eventually eats itself. Check out our fav evil witch, HRC. She is physically ugly and incapacitated because she is spiritually ugly. She seems to have won some battles, but she has already lost her war.

It’s easier to see good and evil play out in small lives than in great world geopolitical processes. Those are likely to take generations and in the end it may be impossible to assign ultimate good and evil to the players.

Everybody suffers sometimes, and it is not always because of evil. This is one of the great questions we cannot resolve with our human capacity for understanding. I know a lady who broke her neck in a diving accident at 17 and has been a quadriplegic for
decades. She does not minimize her great suffering, but she does not feel sorry for herself. Her calling is to minister to others who suffer, to offer encouragement and empathy. She has completely overcome the evil that befell her by undermining it with love and goodness in her realm of influence.

Chesterton says that men may keep a sort of level of good, but no man has ever been able to keep on one level of evil.

Llpoh
Llpoh

Gayle – Looking back, most nations were built out of what includes a good dose of evil. In the US, for instance, a nation most would have considered good, at least until recently, a great deal of evil was perpetrated. Indians were slaughtered, slaves were kept, women were lesser citizens, etc. And the US was certainly much further to the good side than almost any nation that ever has existed.

Good does not generally prevail in this world. Aggession is more the norm, and that I generally define as evil.

Re how I run business, I am aggressive. Not aggressive as is a nation, but aggressive in pursuit of profit, which is the only reason I run a business. I believe I am honest. Fair is in the eye of the beholder. But I think without doubt I am honest and trustworthy. But I am not yielding and soft. And I use any power and advantage I might have to my benefit. If I treat my employees well, it is generally done as it benefits me in pursuit of profit to do so. I am not altruistic. I do not in my mind mistreat people, but “well” is a step above that, and implies an intentional positive action. I am more neutral in those things.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Gayle..
An excellent short read you posted.
The paragraph with HRC
and about not keeping one level of evil is something I am as sure of as I am of God’s mercy.
In my youth I took the evil and the evil took me. It took me places I didn’t want to go and did things I didn’t want to do with people I didn’t want to do it with. I try to be kind to Her because I know her inner sadness. Laughing on the outside and crying on the inside.

Gayle
Gayle

Flea
I am somewhat familiar with the type of experience you describe. It healed a lot of my rampant judgmentalism, but I still have a ways to go. Yes, mercy.

October Sky
October Sky

Gayle

I agree. Good rest sounds smart!

Quoting Gyorgy Buzsaki’s “Rhythms of the Brain” (Where Does the Brain’s Smartness Come From?), “Even though spontaneous brain activity emerges without an external force, for a brain to be useful it should adapt to the outside world. The brain has to be calibrated to the metrics of the environment it lives in, and it’s internal connections should be modified accordingly. If the statistical features of the environment reflect one particular constellation, the evolving brain should be able to adapt it’s internal structure so that it’s dynamics can predict most effectively the consequences of the external perturbation forces. A great deal of this adaptive modification for each individual brain (i.e., it’s “smartness”) comes from interactions with conspecific, that is, other brain’s. In other words, the functional connectivity of the brain and the algorithms generated by such continuous modifications are derived from interactions with the body, the physical environment, and to a great extent, other beings.”

Humans can gather around cunning liers, dolts, or the self-controlled and those aiming to achieve self-control!

From scripture I have read, heaven is inside a believer’s heart, hell is void of praise and joy and one command is to refrain from worrying.

Responding to falsehoods with confidence sounds smart, too!

Admin is one of the most smartest and most confident individuals. And so are you.

Gayle
Gayle

October
Thank you for the good words. I am hardly in the same class with Admin regarding either smarts or confidence, but I have learned a lot from him.

Regarding brain plasticity, I can tell my brain has changed since I was captured by the Internet. When I watch young people with their phones, I suspect their brains are quite different than mine. Brave new world.

Tinfoilhattt
Tinfoilhattt

@ Gayle-

Ponder further that God did not merely command “a” day of rest, He commanded specifically the 7th day of the week as “the” day of rest.

The Roman Catholic Church adopted the pagan “Sun”day of worship to pitch a bigger tent and get more folks onboard and-perhaps not-so-coincidentally-paying into the church coffers. Screw what God said, man always has a better idea-

“If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.” Isaiah 58:13,14

Ponder well the connection between ignoring the God of the universe and the ever-increasing distress of nations…

Edited for clarity/typos

Francis Marion

Interesting read Jim. Like you’re reading my mind on some stuff. The big thing I am unclear about at this stage is whether or not this thing will wind up into something violent or slowly wind down into something more peaceful and productive. Some indicators point towards a more peaceful world others do not. NK stands in stark contrast to what we can see happening in the ME right now.

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Tommy
Tommy

And in the case of Russia in the middle east and our ‘imminent war’ with Pution and ‘crazy orange guy Trump’…. it ain’t nothin’ but theater – you should relax and enjoy the show. The winter of this T4T will provide plenty of real shit to worry about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=552&v=bLW4KgKDo1o

Not to mention 100+ missles and ZERO dead people. It’s a show.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius

The end = unified Korea….under chinese protection…so the natural gas pipeline from Russia through the Koreas to China can begin and be controlled by RussoChinese interests.
I’m curious to see if the movement in South Korea to close u.s. military bases will be a byproduct of the reunification…
In addition, all the hardware,personnel, planes and ships we have in Asia and near middle East supposedly there for North Korea could actually be put there for another country of concern, Pakistan, particularly considering everything George Webb has detailed about the Awan brothers, Debbie wasserman Shultz, spying on Congress with bugged blackberries!!
The silence by the news media, Congress critters, and Trump is defeaning!!

JustTruth
JustTruth

Great work as always Jim. You have been steadfast and true in your writings. Agree with most that we all know how this is going to end, as national insolvency can only be cured through intense pain. Look forward to segment 3 glimpse of the future!

BB

If America was a 90% white nation with Christianity as its guiding light I would say we could brave Another 4th turning and come out on top but those days are long gone. I don’t think we will make it as one nation this go around . There’s just too much division and Hatred at this point to keep us together and then there is the different races from all over the Earth with absolutely nothing in common that claim this piece of earth. I’m just not very hopeful at this point. The game of thrones is an interesting show.I just started watching it myself last month .I also have started watching the X Files from the 90s.They both keep my attention.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Thank you for being the rock of stability and unity, BiBi.

Chris Beaston
Chris Beaston

Actually, michael keane is correct the US treasury is for the people by the people of the people and and according to the IRS tax code one is supposed to be able to effect set offs for debt. And he is correct it is tied to the civil war US bankruptcy and London banking cartel. Its complicated and detailed and would take much time to explain. SO i wont. Michael sounds very frustrated which might explain his aggressive tone. The fact that nobody understands what he is talking about is a testimony to how thoroughly our system and its jurisdictions have been hijacked by the Deep State. I love the articles cant wait for the third .

RiNS

Chris

The fact that nobody understands what he is talking about…

And who is this nobody you speak of?
Do you have any proof that nobody knows nobody?

Geeze this Nobody must be one dumb fuck if he didn’t already know that the deep State has hijacked the jurisdictions or somethin’ like dat…

Let us all that are unworthy bow down before the fucken mind reading sage soothe sayer.

The Amazing Chris Beaston…

Those are very broad strokes and generalizations there mein freund.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Rob..
Us unwashed hillbillies just don’t get it do we?

Mary Christine

Thanks, Rins, very close to my thoughts. I understood exactly what he was saying. The comment was just..I’m not sure of the word I am looking for. The comment seemed to not fit the theme of the essay. It only addressed one aspect of our problems.

1)michael keane

Pearls at the feet of swine lol and all that… I am glad I struck a nerve. I was frustrated writing this one but largely because I was trying to concentrate while feeding some preschoolers their breakfast… a thought just occurs to me: not unlike the audience here. Thanks for the sympathetic shoulder.

RiNS

Ole Mikey thinkeys he’s the smartest dumbass in the room. Gotta question though Mike.

Seeing as you are so super fabulously smart.
Who is striking who’s nerve if you are the one that twattered first.
Looks to me you were the nerve struck.

Just sayin’

Yeah you are right Flea us unwashed don’t get it. That is why we got Mikey and Chris to splain all the werld to us ingrates. I do feel sorry though for those hapless kids being fed by an inglorious twat. Just think of the years of self righteous abuse that lays in front of them..

Think of those chillren Mike .. they be needin’ a bottle

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1)michael keane

I will redirect you to my comment. 1 8 6

Thanks.

I don’t feel any of US are so far apart and my specific point is this: Those that have kidnapped the financial center of the United States have done so through Counterfeiting.

Because this is the case, therefore, the Remedy lies in the Constitution. It is as plain as day.

RiNS

Okay so I went back thru thread and found your post. So we arent that far apart. Fantastico! I agree that all this kabuki is bought and paid for with FRNs printed from thin air. You were gloating and being insufferable just above. That is what I was responding to..

That said I like to hope that you are right and this does not end in violence. However, me being a skeptic by nature, I have to say that your hopes are misplaced. I say this because the past is good predictor of future. True as HSF said some countries are out of phase with USA. Russia being one. Still when the Hyperpower Dawg gets the flu the rest of world gets a cold.

The violence is already here and unstoppable. The reason being is the game of musical chairs being played because of the fiat money ponzi guarantees that some one will be left without a place to sit or shit.

Someone is gonna get stuck with the bill..

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/letters/ct-illinois-leaving-population-pension-broke-20180102-story.html

Take Illinois. Not everyone can afford to leave. And ones left behind are increasingly unable to pay.

When the check bounces and the dindus EBT doesnt work there aint gonna be a whole lot of piece and love. Count on it and Book it Danno.

Chitcago and a whole host of urban areas would turn into Mad Max No Go zones faster than Boss Hogg could say..

Oh, Rosco, it sure is nice to be so appreciated…

1)michael keane

Not my intention to be a nuisance to anybody. It is my intention to point to 1 8 6 as the solution. The FRN as you and I both know, is worthless, IMF and World Bank as well, to say noting of DTC and DTCC (1200 Trillions counterfeit “securities”). We The People have a Remedy 186. We The People are the heirs to intellectual enlightenment and proven- unique as is our Birthright- antidote to Tyranny. It doesn’t require rancor or long slow dances to admit I’m right; in either case, it isn’t ME being right in the first place- it is the Revolutionary Mothers and Fathers that are right and the bloodletting is not a foregone conclusion.

RiNS

The only way it turns out nice as you is if the person paying for dinner wants to stick around and get screwed.

An oldie but a goldie when it comes to the type of understanding normal working folk are gonna have to deal with when SHTF…

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/09/17/typical-evening-on-the-30-blocks-of-squalor/

Platoplubius
Platoplubius

It’s a global game of Hot Potato!
The potatoes are FRNs and we all know who will be stuck with all the worthless $$ in the end!!
Each U.S. citizen!!
Last major western liquidation happened in Europe during WWII…
This will not end well!
Going down with the ship never does

Gerold

Astute analysis and brilliant writing, Admin. I look forward to part 3.

I hope you address the inevitable war. Two things:

First, all Fourth Turnings end in war. Since we’re ten years into this Fourth, we still have a few years to prepare for all-out war. The last Fourth Turning began with the Great Depression starting in 1930 and ended with the recovery in 1946. WW II began 1939 to 1941 (depending on nation) and ended in 1945. In other words, calamitous wars begin about ¾ of the way through a Fourth Turning

Second, and of greater concern is the escalating number of casualties. The first few Fourth Turnings; War of the Roses, Armada Crisis, English Civil War and the American Revolution each produced less than 100,000 deaths and most were battlefield casualties. However, beginning with the American Civil War (about a million deaths) many casualties were civilian. With WW II’s 65 million deaths, the proportion of civilian casualties again increased. Notice too, the number of deaths increase exponentially with each war. If this trend continues, the deaths in the coming WW III will be in the billions and most will be civilians in keeping with the Georgia Guidestones. I hope I’m wrong.

TPC
TPC

The world has been at war since 9/11 – when the US started swinging its dick openly all over the globe daring people to be offended when it slapped them.

Unfortunately 15 years of helicopter work has left us weak and flaccid, fatigued by a never ending series of broken promises and premature exclamations of “winning”.

Currency war? Check.
Trade war? Check.
Cold war? Check.
Hot war? Nobody gives a damn about where the USA’s “red line” lies, its China and Russia that hold those cards.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius

Nicely said!
I have argued that if I was writing the history books, WWIII started after the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, then Iraq based on false pretext from the attacks of 9-11

Tony
Tony

I first heard of the Fourth Turning right here on this blog. I bought the book some time ago but I have yet to get through the whole thing; OCD I guess. I always enjoy reading Admin’s articles, the writing style is excellent, and it always keeps me coming back.

Personally I expected the other shoe to drop long before this. The 2008 debacle and alleged fix was little more than the ‘fix is in’ simply to enrich the 1 percenters. Taking the US off the gold standard by Nixon in 1972 should have been a red flag and when Billy Bob repealed the Glass-Seagall Act, well it was all over but the fat lady singing. The singing started in 2008 but the bail out of the too big to fails was just a way to continue the looting of so many American’s of their blood, sweat, and tears. It worked so well, that they have kept it going for 10 years and counting.

We can plan, and we can prep, and we can live another day, but I’m just getting so weary. The orange man made promises, you know, MAGA and all that and got many onboard. It doesn’t look like we are going to see those promises fulfilled. The machine is too big and MAGA has been steamrolled. WE, the dirt people, the deplorables are being steamrolled.

Nice job Jim, I await part 3. I will be interested to see your take on a glimpse into the future. There is so much information and disinformation out there that sometimes it just makes my head spin. There is always some sanity I can gain from TBP and some of the well-spoken commenters.

Martel's Hammer

My preferred outcome would be a successful counter revolution that resets the balance of power DC, the States and most importantly the People. The shift towards centralized power vs. individual liberty is diametrically opposed to our founding principles.

These principles of individual liberty and property rights account for the greatest explosion of human development in all of our species existence.

Even yesterday when Senator Corey Booker was braying about Mike Pompeo being unqualified for Sec. State due to a religious test is specifically addressed in the Constitution – Article VI section 3…..kind of amazing. We have the right basic law that has been diluted and perverted almost since implementation and certainly weakened in the last two 4th Turnings.

Obviously the current paradigm no longer works. The Have Nots are running roughshod over the haves with the violence of government…..the golden goose is nearly dead.

We need to go back to radical freedom……that produced the wealth now being squandered by the parasites. No income taxes, no transfer payments and entitlements, kill the millions of government jobs and agencies that do nothing but enable the have nots to steal from the productive members of society.

Let people fail and succeed. Don’t worry there will be many charitable minded folks to help those less fortunate and the illegal aliens who cannot succeed will simply vote with their feet and go home.

We wouldn’t even have to worry about immigration, only those with skills and/or capital would want to compete. The rest will stay home.

Lots of work to do and the Deep State will not give up their power without a serious fight.

Fiatman60
Fiatman60

Excellent post as well as the comments……
FINALLY! we are getting some sense as to where we are heading and what lies ahead…..

Annie
Annie

If you include Clinton as a grey champion this time around I think you have to include Hitler as a grey champion for the last time as well.

Mike C
Mike C

Excellent post, Admin! I love your 4th turning articles. It’s amazing to see how much history rhymes over the generational cycles.

Another candidate for gray champion might be Prof. Jordan Peterson. He may not be technically old enough, but he has the prophet mindset of wanting to preach and set the younger generation straight by giving them principles and guidance. He came from obscurity, literally stepped onto the stage from the shadows, like the old man in the tale about the Glorious Revolution. His reach is enormous, his videos have been viewed 10s of millions of times.

It’s possible that Q will turn out to be a gray champion as well? As you said, gray champion isn’t a positive connotation, it just means a ruthless leader. Q is already commanding an open-source intel research operation of thousands of anons. If this continues to grow, for good or ill, Q will be commanding a literal army of intel operatives and researchers.

diogenes
diogenes

” Q is already commanding an open-source intel research operation of thousands of anons. If this continues to grow, for good or ill, Q will be commanding a literal army of intel operatives and researchers.”

“Lions and tigers and bears, Oh my!”

I’m sure the TPTB are pissing themselves in fear

Mike C
Mike C

You’re kind of putting words in my mouth. I didn’t say that TPTB would afraid…just that an army of Q followers could have an impact on current events if Q’s reach continues to grow. They were able to top trend hashtags on Twitter back in Jan or Feb of this year, so it’s not as if the Q phenomenon is toothless.

Also, what if the next Wikileaks founder is one of the Q followers? TPTB are definitely afraid of Assange, that’s why they’ve kept him under illegal detention for the past 8 years.

My point is, we don’t know where this is going. I think to ignore the Q phenomenon would be an oversight at this point.

diogenes
diogenes

“They were able to top trend hashtags on Twitter back in Jan or Feb of this year, so it’s not as if the Q phenomenon is toothless.”

Sounds like the total definition of toothless to me.

Mike C
Mike C

So millions and millions of people don’t get their news and information from trending stories on social media these days? Care to elaborate on this hypothesis?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

I was nuetral towards the Qewsters until they began using the lefts favorite tactic when challenged of violent and ruthless personal attacks on people.

Robert P
Robert P

Any body who wants to talk about some phantom menace called the “deep state” (which is presumably our national institutions sworn to uphold the Constitution and led by the President that have suddenly morphed into a menace) needs to explain that of which he speaks. The deep state is an imaginary menace born in the minds to people who get their news from tin foil hat commentators on FOX and false flag pinheads/con artists living in an alternative world of nightmares for hire or profit.

Penforce

Dang Admin, you hardly used any powder in that load. I was waiting for that shot to clean anything green right off the sod.

Anonymous
Anonymous

He has to conserve his energy, the soy boys are out in force today. Like lemmings to a cliff (I know it’s just a legend) they are eager to be swatted over the fence like a bunch of soft-balls. Line up on your stick ponies, boys, Admin’s being gentle today, Spring Practice and shit..

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom

Citizen Trump is a mere egotistical con man. He’s the “sophisticated international playboy” Jethro Bodine always wanted to be. He is no hero. He’s another zero tweeting impotently while the Mandarins plot another Banker War. He has neutered you all, while a bloviating weasel like Bolton tries to gin up wars for the AIPAC neocons.
Lincoln caused this tragedy by killing State’s Rights. The Federales are looting your future and selling it off to the highest bidder. FDR was a traitor that helped Stalin capture Eastern Europe and set up Mao in China. Churchill was a drunken has-been that DESTROYED the British Empire and then got kicked to the curb. Those fools in the Spitfires helped rapists rape their Grand-daughters.
I may not like Hitler and his vegan socialist ways, but dumping the Rothschild Den of Thieves made Germany Great Again. This con man El Trumpo is a shill. He has ALREADY BETRAYED YOU. His tweets remind me more of Obama than Patton. He is just a sad old fat man selling you out for his ego and defending Israel, not YOU.
He will bloviate about Iran, Syria and North Korea. The THREE COUNTRIES of the Bush Axle of Ebil. The THREE COUNTRIES WITHOUT A ROTHSCHILD DEN OF THIEVES. He will “stand up” to Russia and China to stop BRICs and the Renminbi. Defending the Rothschild petrodollar the Swamp NEEDS to borrow to Infinity and Beyond. Putting YOU and YOUR POSTERITY in PERMANENT DEBT SLAVERY.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Dr. Doomsday.
Who do you mean by YOU exactly or not so exactly? Most of us here already no all that stuff you listed.

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom

I do not see an American interest in Syria. Syria was pushed together with Iran by that Rothschild puppet Bush. They are Sunni and Iran is Shiite, they normally do not play nice together. However, having a warmongering bunch of psycho neocons attacking both of them made them allies. This is the kind of strategery you can expect from neocon run El Trumpo I expect…

suzanna
suzanna

I do not like your attitude there Mr. Doom!

The world is not so simple to harangue on about the Trumpster as tho he
is in charge of very much. The “deep state” is very entrenched world wide
and quite concentrated here in the not united “states.”

Positive aspects of the Trumpsters projected attitudes and beliefs give me
(and others) some small comfort. I am not delusional and do not pin any
hopes on a “savior.”
HRC apparently relished and celebrated the brutal murders of both national
leaders and everyday slubs just trying to live life. I’m SO glad to be able to
say that out loud. For now. Remember O? Not a day went by that he didn’t
cause mega grief for Americans.

We are on a brutal course. Batten down the hatches people. Pay yourselves
first. And get away from the hungry angry hoards that mostly shit in their
own nests. Try to be a good person…a good neighbor and friend. Try for a
simple life…maybe even pray.

I am looking forward to the third in the series. Lucky us.

subwo
subwo

British Empire indeed. They have never recovered from both wars. I remember in the early 1980s hearing their submarine cooks grousing as they asked for shiny wrap (aluminum foil) from an American cook. They said that they weren’t allowed to buy it as it cost too much for their supply officers to purchase. I got a travel website invite to book roundtrip air to London from Denver for $609 on United Airlines during the royal wedding week next month. Even if I could afford it and the probably dearly priced hotel stay I wouldn’t, as I have added Londonstan to the list of shit hole cities I will not visit along with the long list of US cities. But then David Icke has been telling his fellow subjects about what is going on there for 25 years. Pedos run all governments, not just the obvious church of Peter.

Overthecliff

These articles are why I started coming to TBP. I am at an age where I have seen the changing of the seasons. Jim doesn’t prophesy specifics just general trends. I hope my life is long enough to see how it comes out.

The polarization in USA is similar to 1850 an that does not bode well for Americans.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

I just can’t see how we can avoid at minimum a Soviet style collapse. We have the same huge, impersonal, immovable Govt. apparatus choking us. Fed., State and Local govt. and their contractors now are the largest employers. Whats different is they weren’t nearly as divided socially so we might not mend as easily even if we break up into smaller units like they did.

Mary Christine

Flea, I think the Russians know from personal experience what is in our future. They are just waiting for it to happen. I don’t know if we can recover like they did. Russia has a much more homogeneous society. We are so fractured. I am pretty sure we will break up.

While the Soviet Union broke up, it was always an artificial empire, and would not have held together without totalitarianism as the glue.

Mark
Mark

I’d be happy with this as I have already self-sorted to the Federalist States of America…but I think the collapse/division/Constitutional crisis/Civil War will be more fragmented.
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Mary Christine

The Peoples Republic of Soyland? Did you make up that name?

Mark
Mark

Mary,

No, but I wish I had. Close enough for horseshoes and frags.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Right. I think they and China are hoping to just run out the clock.

Navionpa
Navionpa

About the break up of USSR, the people didn’t want a total spilt. Forced on them by the US.

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom

The difference is the petrodollar, man. The petrodollar that the World uses as the Reserve Currency for trade and Oil purchases is what lets Uncle Sham borrow to Infinity and Beyond. The petrodollar goes down, and this House of Cards falls flat.

Mary Christine

In the last two world wars the middle east did not have such a prominent role as I believe it will this time. Every day there is another article about Syria or Israel or SA. It seems impossible to get away from it. It’s like quick sand, we just keep getting sucked back in.

It looks like the catalyst this time could possibly happen there. Interesting that common dispensationalist eschatology predicts that Israel will be attacked by Russia and a coalition of other nations. I am not married to any certain eschatology because I believe it is too easy to get it wrong. But, the evangelicals are married to it and believe we must protect Israel at all costs. It seems that they are blind to all of the evil that has come from that nation since it became a state back in 1948. This May (I think) is the 70 year anniversery. What if Russia just plain gets fed up with Israel and all of their shenanigans? It’s possible, is it not?

Just a thought..any thoughts from the peanut gallery?

1)michael keane

I like Alex Gibney’s, “Zero Days”. The Stux-Net virus and Israel’s unilateral deployment point to a number of trends since it gained attribution. I figure we all don’t wanna ever know what “Nitrous Zeus” is, although the name does keep me guessing.

Stux-Net was used to destroy the Iranian centrifuges in-and-around the time we are all supposed to believe Congress invited Netanyahooo to come to DC in spite of Obama. Once Israel used the weapon beyond Iranian centrifuges, the cat left the bag.

Clinton and Obama were fixin’ to prosecute a Marine 4 Star after blaming him for their allowance the virus be used in the first place… Snowden exposed them and exonerated the General. The Iranians that smuggled the virus in weren’t so lucky.

If Gibney’s documentary is to be believed, the resultant chaos has acted to compel the international spook community to out the deep state and it does seem P T is protected by the military; Admiral Rogers and his exposure, at great personal risk, of abuse of FISA warrants, a case in point.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Mary C.
What if they all get fed up with us and give their power to the beast to destroy her as in if we are the whore in revelation 18. They are not describing the Vatican in Rome there, sounds too much like us to me.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine

Ah yes..the Vatican. They have a role for sure. We could be mystery Babylon. A lot of could be and maybes… the Book of Revelation is an enigma for a reason.. I’m just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks.

I think Israel is pushing the line as far as they can because they expect us to always save them.

Gayle
Gayle

That description of Babylon in Rev. 18 sure sounds like NYC to me.

I don’t think the secular state of Israel should be treated with any more deference or allegiance than any other friendly nation. I don’t recall Jesus teaching that his followers needed to do so. Actually I suspect the whole romance with Israel is about protecting our oil interests in the ME despite all the bs otherwise.

Llpoh
Llpoh

Gayle – probably true. It is also about keeping Israel under control. Without US support, Israel would be a wildcard. I suspect it would be much more ruthless if it was not being supported by the US, and would be much more aggressive in its actions. It is moderated by US involvement.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Gayle.
Me too but I don’t think “They” would nuke NYC without doing us too.

October Sky
October Sky

I am not 100 percent in agreement Babylon the Great refers to NYC. First, there is a possibility NYC can collapse. Second, are all ruthless entities dependent upon NYC? Lastly, Revelation 18: 24 indicates to me BG, as a system, was established before NYC.

Regarding Israel, I agree with you. However I will add, I do not support the US defending or financing Israel now or in the future. I support active defense and America First.

Besides ME oil, many are also attracted to Israel’s biotech and other R&D.

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom

The re-emergence of Israel is said to signal the End Times in the Bible. The rebuilding of the Temple is the signal for the Final Battle. The Synagogue of Satan has built a Throne in a Secret Room. It is for The Anti-Christ, or False Messiah. The nWo is the Heresy of Nimrod. Feminism is the Heresy of Lilith. “Diversity” and miscegenation UNDOES the Tower of Babel Curse that SEPARATED mankind to prevent another Nimrod. The Anti-Christ wants to be ANOTHER NIMROD.
The King of the World who said he was God Himself…

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Dr Doom..
Very few are aware of Lillith the goddess of abortion which is inseparable from Feminism.

The hypon
The hypon

Putin was elected , he’s not a dictator . He first came on the scene in the mid 90s when a group of patriots decided to take back and rescue their country from a murderous traitorous mafia backed by the CIA and Wall Street. His life was literally on the line , so at least he had skin in the game.
The vast majority of Russians back him because they remember what life was like 20 years ago. His election is as valid as any in American . In the US there is only one party , the war party and people vote for it every 4 years . But for entertainment purposes people imagine their vote matters ,so that’s why you have a democrat vrs republican. It’s just a charade.

Zarathustra

Precisely. Putin is a statesman and one of the few adults on the world stage today. He should have lifetime tenure as Russia’s president; I can’t imagine a better leader for his country at this juncture in history. I wish he were my president.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote

And, just in case the old folks decide to boycott the election on the grounds that it is rigged, they are rolling out a lower voting age. 16 yo morons will vote in Santa Claus promising a free ride and free pussy.

Billah's wife
Billah's wife

Oh mah gawd Admenstruater this article uh yers litrally just scared the shit outer me. I’m sittin here in mah gawd dammed lazy boy and in mah mind’s eye I’m eatin the last gawd dammed can uh beaner wienies on earth and there’s just death and chaotic donkey dicks flyin all around outside mah trailer and then SQUIRT, squirty squirt…squirt. Now I got ter git up and wash mah gawd dammed mumu. I’m hopin my bung hole ain’t prolapsed agin as that’s the last thing I need ter have ter deal with if the gawd dammed werld’s about ter come crashin down and I ain’t got enough food fer tomorrow much less fer Tribulation. Oh gawd uh mighty Jimmy Q why caint Stucky just write another article about castles er some shit? Er maybe Uncoola could drop one uh them snoozers that just makes yer ass so bored yer click on them porn ads TBPs always runnin. Er maybe Hardscrambled could write another long ass poetic ad fer maple syrup. Er maybe Maggie could drool on her keyboard and never write uh gawd dammed thing. Anything but part 3. It’s too much light fer our glazed eyes, shitballs uh mercy I think yer ass is uh gawd dammed prophet yerself. OK Admen I’m out.

Tony
Tony

Larry the Cable Guy…. is that you?

EL Coyote
EL Coyote

Maggie found her old stash of writin’s lining the hen-house and decided to take a sabbatical just like the time HF found his trove of old jokes in a tin can or when Stucky found his boxes of old National Geographics with alluring spreads on African society.

Maggie
Maggie

I never thought I’d say it, Billah’s Wife.

I miss yer.

Q Anon Slayer
Q Anon Slayer

Nice Stories..all…with all the intelligent (pseudo and otherwise) comments…this site makes for a decent entertaining scroll…

But…there is no solution…only more of “they” and “I think we REALLY know who THEY are NOW…” blabber. One thing is for certain, as long as the “powers that be” can keep the POWER on, the “food” easily bought and picked up via an automobile (the ‘symbol’ of modern freedom is a wheeled, powered vehicle with ALL the gadgets) and prepared with POWER with a turn of a dial or push of a button to make the belly go…mmmm… this charade will go on and on, but much like a music box where it begins to slow to a point where it’s sound becomes ominous…and that point, folks…is where we are at. N. Korea, et al can bring this house of electric cards down PERMANENTLY ‘enough’ for us to all start eating each other literally (when all the small animals and zoo’s are Empty…Hello VEnezuela!) Will they? Do they need to? Have you talked to a farmer lately? Visited your regions cattle raisers? How about a chicken farm? Until you talk to these people and UNDERSTAND that they are hanging by a thread and literally are the LAST generation of food producers ON THIS CONTINENT…well, do the math.

It was a good run. It’s about to hit the dirt…high speed dirt…

Flame away. I really don’t need anyone to tell me what I already don’t know…

Platoplubius
Platoplubius

Nice! Reminds me of the Frank Zappa quote:

https://www.theburningplatform.com/tag/frank-zappa/

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Gay Slayer..
You assume too much. You assume we don’t leave our houses or live in the real world. That kind of presumptuous conceit can only proceed from the mouth of a sluggard.

Trmist
Trmist

Great series. Thanks for keeping The Forth Turning fresh and relevant. As far as President Trump being a grey champion I’m not convinced. His actions suggest he is either, unprincipled, incompetent, or a captive of the the deep state. I was intreaged by the things Trump said during the campaign yet his actions on geopolitical scene are very similar to the previous two president. Mao, Stalin, and Churchill accomplished much for their nations, Trump has not demonstrated that he belongs in the company of great men.

Mary Christine

Did you know Steve Quayle posted Part 1?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

So did Z H.

Llpoh
Llpoh

Given that a large percentage of the young believe socialism is the way to go, I would not be surprised to see an aggresive socialist similar to those that have popped up in Venezuela turn up as a gray champion. In a very few years the entire Venezuelan society and economy was destroyed. The snowflakes are primed to follow a socialist/communist leader straight to hell.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Llpoh..
Leftist revolutions usually happen when the head of state is weakened and the government is paralized. Seems close. Soros is watching.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius

History is rhyming…the alarms are sounding…
What were the motives in Germany??

IBM and the liquidation of German debt

digitalpennmedia
digitalpennmedia

I love this fourth turning stuff… there is some comfort in understanding the repeating of history; its too bad no one pays attention. I have always viewed the next conflict as the ONLY way to truly gain back the freedoms that individuals have had stolen (at least for a time) until some other power rises up to usurp power from a once again lazy/ignorant people that far out number those paying attention.

However, I dont know if binge watching Game of Thrones while taking notes adds to the enjoyment of the story and the show… usually taking notes the 2nd time through is better /s

And by the way where did all the millennial participants come from?

Joshua.Lizard
Joshua.Lizard

Great rant. You’re one of my favorite writers right now… But I think this might be a good time to remember… Nay. To give not just remembrance but reverence to another of recent history’s most admirable Gray Champions.
We might not have known it at the time. We might have been busy watching Carl’s Jr commercials and listening to the narrative on CNN as they told us that he was a monster who was murdering his own people by the thousands and absolutely needed to be stopped, but we already knew that our government ha d invaded Iraq on the grounds of deliberately falsified allegations about weapons of mass destruction so we should have known better when it came to Lybia and that country’s leader, the late, great Mommar Gaddafi.
It turns out Mommar Gaddafi was a bona fide saint. He had raised the Lybian standard of living from one of the worst in the world to the best on the continent and better than most of Asia. He had given ever y Lybjan family a free house with free electricity,education, health care, interest free loans of they were needed and free water… In the desert!!! He made the whole desert blossom and bloom and he gave everyone ever thing for free. But Washington thought that he might one day threaten the world wide supremacy of their precious fist petrodollar so they dubbed him the most evil man alive or e very tv station, invaded his country with An Quadra fighters and UN air strikes then they shot him in the back of the bead.
We should have known better but we didnt. It might make a fitting epitaph for we the people of this once great nation but it is no excuse for all the unnecessary human suffering and death that followed.
Today in Lybia you can watch public outdoor slave auctions several days a week and you can even buy your very own live human slave… So I guess it’s Mission Accomplished for our military tnere. but what’s life excuse going to be this time if we let them do it again in Syria?
Some of us may try to use the same excuse again, but they will be lying. They already knew that the Syrian Civil War (falsely titled thus) was really just a pipeline war that began with a bunch of ISIS fighters who had been trained by US operatives, paid with US dollars and armed with US weapons to invade Syria and blow shit up so that our military could blow the whole country off the face of the map under the pretense that they were fighting against ISIS. They had heard it somewhere from someone and at first they got a little bit excited and a little bit outraged but then they thought about it and got a whole lot sick to their stomachs of their hearts and they went back to watching CNN. And what about the rest of us? We already know our government is more villainous than any Bond villain and worse than any comic book had guy. We know that they lie and war and duck sh it up everywhere they go. What’s our excuse going to be this time?

Oh that’s right. Silly me. This time we won’t have an excuse. This will be our third strike and our last chance to prove there is still a somewhat admirable spirit in the heart of the American people.
This time we will line up rain near everyone in the governmenr in the court of we the people. .. And everybody already knows what their excus e will be. “We were only doing what they told us to,” they will say and they will be convicted of war crimes anyway. Then we wi’ll move on to every Dic k Chaney who had been pulling their strings behind the scenes and line them up at the guillotine. And we might with that give Lybia ‘a former leader the epitaph he deserves… MOMMAR QADDAFI THOU ART AVENGENGED!!
Something like that anyway.
If not we will have earned ourselves some pathetic epitaph like We Were Only Believing What They Told Us To Believe and we will sentence our selves and our children for many generations to be rightly despised by the entire world while they tyranny we allowed to take power in our government continue to war and lie and duck sh it up until there are public outdoor slave auctions in every nation on the planet and we have all been so!d into slavery

Ike
Ike

It is simplistic to lump Putin and Xi into the as Trump. Putin and Xi will notallow their countries to be subjugated by the USA that is true indeed Putin has said “What use is a world without Russia”. This being a threat to use nuclear weapons if the west leaves them no choice in the defence of Russia. However rather than being egotists, as the western media is fond of portraying them they are patriots. They have lead their countries in an amazing transformation of their economies and their growing power is seen as a threat by the powers that be in the west. Hence the constant false flags and demonisation despite both Russia and China attempting to play the capitalist game and trade with reciprocity with the west. Xi has encouraged western participation in the “One Belt one road” project and Russia allowed western businesses to participate in the Russian economy. In return they have got sanctions and aggression from America and Europe.
Trump could have been the Grey Champion and negotiated the peaceful amalgamation of the worlds economies but the Deep State will only allow one outcome. US global hegemony.
The so called inevitable Fourth turning is a fantasy just like the Game of Thrones.

curtmilr
curtmilr

Why not an overthrow of the Deep State, confiscation of the ill-gotten gains by the corruptocrats and CIA shell corporations, take those Trillion$ to pay down the public debt, then declare a debt Jubilee on the rest to free the common man?

Return to the written Constitution, not the corporate law.

Depose the global cabal of pedocrats at the same time, freeing the entire world.

Reset, reshuffle, and redeal. I’m too old to benefit, but all future generations certainly would.

Hey! I can dream, can’t I??

Kate Frederickson
Kate Frederickson

You can’t live in radiation.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius

Sure you Can! But eventually you’ll get sick and die….slow kill

JdL
JdL

“Gray Champions”?? Game of Thrones?? When you translate this column into English, let me know.

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