Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Effects

Via Survival Sullivan

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An EMP attack is the most deadly doomsday proposition we could ever face. Few outside of the prepper community are even pondering such an end of the work event – and far fewer still are preparing to survive such a SHTF and the copious amount of domino mega disaster effects it would create.

An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) is defined as a brief surge of electromagnetic energy and it can be the result of either man-made or natural disturbances. Electronics can be affected and in some cases an EMP can result in physical destruction of things such as structures and vehicles. After a nuclear explosion, the EMP will radiate abruptly, and is likely to cause unspeakable damage to electrical systems as unnaturally high voltage surges through valves and transistors.

Let’s break down that very technical and scientific definition of an EMP into practical terms, shall we? The SHTF will epically hit fan in biblical proportion and could forever change life as we know it on planet Earth.

And….it could happen any minute now.

That, my fellow preppers, is the deep and dirty mega secrete neither the mainstream media nor government officials are paying enough attention to or want us to know.

If you grew up watching the Little House on the Prairie and Grizzly Adams like I did and ever wondered what it would be like to live an 1800s style existance, you just might get your chance to find out.

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If (I really should agree with former DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano and say, “when”) an EMP happens, expect a scene like this to begin playing out in your neighborhood.

An electromagnetic pulse, whether it is caused by an Earth-directed X Class solar flare or a more nefarious man-made attack, WILL fry out fragile and antiquated power grid, anything hooked to it during when the EMP occurs, and ALL sensitive electronic equipment,

An EMP is a short, but very strong burst, of electromagnetic energy caused by a rapid and intense increase in charged particles in the ionosphere. The acceleration of particles can occur as the result of a solar storm, a nuclear bomb, dirty bomb or an a small scale, even due to a simple, yet strong, bolt of lightning.

Once the ionosphere experiences a particle surge, a wave of electrical currents emerges and shorts out all, modern equipment which needs electricity to function – including the transformers are necessary to make power grids all around the world, work.

An EMP disturbance has the capability to not only destroy sensitive electronic equipment, but can even burst power lines, down airplanes, and damage brick-and-mortar structures.

 

EMP Classification

We are all familiar with the government’s hurricane and tornado classification. The same type of scale also exists for electromagnetic pulses.

E1 – This classification of an EMp is the most brief. An E1 typically lasts for hardly even a microsecond, but is still regarded as being substantially powerful and highly destructive. An E1 EMP would occur after the detonation of a nuclear bomb.

E2 – This classification of an electromagnetic pulse lasts at least a little bit longer than an E1 and could be caused by a man-made dirty bomb depending upon its capacity, or a nuclear explosion. During a nuclear blast, what would most likely occur is an E1 level EMP would happen followed by an E2 class event. Our power grid might be capable of withstanding an E2 event if it is really as hardened as the government claims, but there is currently no known way to harden the electrical grid (or anything else, for that matter) against an E1 class EMP event.

E3 – An E3 EMP event is less powerful than either an E1 or an E2. It can last for hours to days, depending upon the originating incident. This is the type of EMP disturbance that commonly occurs due to solar flares during the summer months.

The Carrington Event

When the most recent and only recorded EMP provoking solar flare happened in 1859, it was dubbed the Carrington Event. Richard Carrington, an astronomer, watched the EMP unleash its power through his telescope lens and documented the event.

A monstrous power outage resulted, leaving more than six million people in the dark from Canada through New York to New Jersey. At the time, NASA experts proclaimed the solar flare possessed approximately one-third of the power that the Carrington Event carried.

Telegraph lines, the most sophisticated type of technological equipment of that era, not only snapped and caught fire, even the papers and desks of operators also burst into flames.

Scientists often refer to EMPs as a “transient electromagnetic disturbance.” The incidents can be natural disturbances due to solar flares or a man-made current used as part of a weapons system.

Man-Made EMPs

An EMP strike is actually more likely to occur than a nuclear bomb or a war because of money and power. Why spend billions on war, manufacturing weapons, training and dispatching soldiers, when you can discharge an EMP attack, wait a few months, and then survey the inevitable damage?

By simply launching a few SCUD missiles (a storable-propellant, single-stage ballistic first developed by the Soviets) from a ship anchored off the coast, you could unleash a silent, quick, and clean attack on an enemy, without so much as a single bullet. Human nature and the force of evolution will take care of the rest, as populations become defenseless, weak, and increasingly desperate. North Korea claims to have the ability to launch such an attack right now.The bottom line is that an EMP assault is cheaper and less messy for our enemies than anything else.

Following an EMP attack, financial and communication systems would fail. Transportation systems would derail. The unprepared portion of the population, all 325.7 million of them that are not preppers or already living off grid or on a sustainable homestead, will not be able to cope with the basic needs of daily survival.

Depending upon the origin of the electromagnetic pulse, a man-made disturbance can stem from an electric, radiated, conducted electric current, or magnetic field. A nuclear EMP attack would be even more devastating than a solar EMP – or coronal mass ejection – CME.

An EMP attack results when the enemy launches a nuclear bomb – from land or sea – into the Earth’s atmosphere, rocketing to a height of more than 25 miles. The detonation causes gamma rays to interact with air molecules, producing positive ions while recoiling electrons in Earth’s atmosphere.

The positive ions take over the electrons and a gigantic pulse bursts out towards the Earth below. Simply put, an atomic reaction takes place and the electromagnetic pulse that is created scorches all the electrical devices within a vast radius, including batteries.

 

Solar Storms

The effects of a solar (geomagnetic) storm are often attributed to that of an electromagnetic pulse. While an intense solar storm could potentially damage huge segments of the country’s power grid, it will impact ground level sensitive electronic equipment that isn’t even plugged in. While the effects of a solar storm do match the scientific definition of an EMP, the response it triggers is much slower than the expected speed of a ‘pulse’.

It is untrue that an EMP has limited range because it follows the inverse square law. This law is, in fact, irrelevant for most nuclear EMP occurrences. This is because, while the detonation of the nuclear weapon may be occur at a great distance, the E1 EMP is produced within the atmosphere, 12 to 24 miles directly above, in the stratosphere region, referred to as the source region by scientists.

A Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) is a huge burst of gas released from the Sun.This is the organic, natural form of an EMP and it brings the might power to fry electronics along with it. It targets the power grid, blasts power plants, and sends surges of electrical current along the lines, damaging household appliances and simple electronics that are plugged in along with all sensitive high-tech devices.

A CME lasts only a few hours, but if the Sun emits many of these in several directions, there’s more chance one could collide with the Earth. A CME will have global consequences, disrupting radio transmissions, blasting satellites, and endangering people travelling in airplanes and spacecraft at high altitudes.

The power grid would only be temporarily disrupted by a solar storm, these types of occurrences happen with fair frequency during the hot months of summer – when you see your television experiencing heavy static and have patchy cell or internet service, a solar storm is likely the root cause. However, geometric currents, triggered by a solar storm, could eradicate much of the biggest transformers worldwide and recovery could stretch over decades.

It’s only a matter of time before nature unleashes a solar storm. And next time, it could be a big one. Solar flares run in cycles with most scientists in agreement that an X Class Earth directed solar flare occurs about every 100 years. It has been longer than a century since the Carrington Event of 1859 – so we are long overdue for what we, as a society, are ill-prepared and ill-equipped, to survive without a traumatic death toll.

What Will Stop Working After An EMP

  1. Lights
  2. Gas pumps – meaning tractor-trailers carrying food, water, and medicine will not be able to roll. Nor will emergency responders or the military once their generators and stockpiles of fuel run out – no vehicles with sensitive computer components will be able to move even with a full tank of gas because the EMP will fry the circuits
  3. ATM machines
  4. Cell phones
  5. Computers, laptops, tablets
  6. Televisions
  7. Radios that have not been stored in Faraday Cages
  8. Life-saving hospital equipment
  9. Air conditioners
  10. Electric furnaces
  11. Electric stoves
  12. Microwave ovens
  13. Power tools – not because of sensitive electronic components but because there is no electricity to provide fuel for their tanks or to recharge their batteries once generator power and stockpiles run out
  14. Water pumps, well pumps, and municipal water treatment and utility services
  15. Refrigerators – including the ones needed to keep medicines cool at pharmacies and warehouses and the coolers at grocery stores
  16. Internet
  17. and more

Because we rely so much on modern conveniences, the sudden deprivation will mean the general populace will be thrown into a state of panic that will rapidly lead to violent civil unrest and the breakdown of society.

What Other EMP Effects Can We Expect?

While an EMP doesn’t harm the human body, (with the possible exception of people with pacemakers) one strategic strike launched over Kansas could cripple electrical operations in the United States. Basically, all telecommunications would fail and the country will be plunged into a 19th-century-era darkness with nationwide blackouts, because the power grid will go down immediately after the EMP hits.

The intensity of the high voltage spikes produced by an E1 surge is based on several factors including location relative to the EMP surge, amount of shielding, as well as object size and energy status at the time.

The E2 surge is like lightning, but weaker and relatively harmless. Electronic devices already damaged by an E1 are more vulnerable to an E2. The E3 is similar to a geomagnetic storm, lasting several minutes. Unconnected electronics won’t be damaged. Its primary threat is to the power grid, especially the larger transformers.

Phone, cable TVs and electric lines are the most hazardous when an EMP strikes. External antennas and computer cables are next in line. Smaller electronic devices would be mildly affected and would probably stay intact. A cell phone or wristwatch may be immune to a spike, but only EMP-resistant signal towers will stay online.

Planes will literally be falling from the sky after an EMP. Their highly sensitive computer components will fail and the approximately 7,000 planes flying above our heads across the country at any given moment, will crash and burn – and no one will be there to put out the flames.

The spreading of fires from plane crashes as well as from survivors attempting to stay warm, boil water, and prepare food, will causes an insurmountable amount of damage to homes, businesses, crops, wildlife that will need to be hunted for food, etc.

Shock, disbelief, and then panic will be the first emotions and reactions the general populace (and let’s face it, many areas of our government will be going through the same set of emotions as well) will feel. Once the full impact of the doomsday disaster beings to register, things will get even worse once folks know the lights are not going to come back on for at least months, but more than likely years…if at all.

With no functioning ATMS, cash will go fast and essentially be deemed worthless overnight. A can of peaches or a bottle of water will become far more valuable than a $100 bill to survivors.

When the SHTF, looting will occur quickly and bartering will replace cash transactions. Security systems will fail, leaving you and your home vulnerable to intruders because you cannot call 911 for help. You’ll need alternative methods to prepare and refrigerate or otherwise store food. Start canning, stockpiling, and preserving food before it’s too late.

There are indirect and direct EMP effects. Direct, physical effects include damaged electrical systems. Indirect effects can be more severe and cause widespread chaos. And, the worst part is, it only takes a fraction of a second to fry all electronics.

The indirect effects of a doomsday disaster, like an EMP, are referred to as “domino effects.” With the exception of a full-scale nuclear war, that is no other SHTF scenario that will bring out more devastating domino effects than an EMP.

EMP Domino Effects

  1. Economic collapse
  2. Dehydration
  3. Starvation
  4. Fires – raging unchecked because the fire department cannot respond.
  5. Looting and general lawlessness
  6. Violent civil unrest
  7. Homelessness
  8. Disease – because trash will not be collected and human waste can no longer be flushed, we could have a plague on our hands within weeks. Treatable medical conditions will turn deadly, people with controllable chronic conditions will die due to a lack of medication, and serious medical issues, like heart attacks, will cause even more deaths as hospitals run out of generator power and because doctors will no longer have access to the high-tech tools they have come to rely upon. A pandemic is highly likely during such a long-term disaster.

When both the United States and Russian government engaged in nuclear tests during the 1960s, the experiments definitely did not go as planned.

The Star Fish Prime test of 1962 involved a 1.4 megaton nuclear warhead being launched over the Pacific Ocean by the United States government. The EMP pulses generated by the testing of the nuclear warhead were significantly more powerful and far reaching than the learned scientists of that era had anticipated.

In Hawaii, more than 1,000 miles away from the test sight, street lights went out. The test results the scientists had hoped to review and learn from were rendered useless because the EMP event was so powerful it exceeded the ability of their equipment to measure.

At the same time as the Star Fish Prime test, Russia was engaging a nearly identical nuclear experiment of their own – Test 184. Although the exacts details about the type of nuclear warhead used and other particulars related to the test are still unknown outside of our Cold War foe, diesel generators were damaged and a a shielded and underground power line 180 miles away from the test area in Kazakhstan.

Are We Prepared?

Some analysts and elected officials prefer to bury their heads in the sand instead of facing reality and hardening our power grid from an EMP attack.If you think the government has a ready stockpile of necessary parts tucked away in Faraday cages “just in case” think again. We do not even make the parts needed to repair our electrical grid in the United States. If the EMP attack is global, as would be the case with an Earth-directed solar flare, getting the parts we need from an overseas manufacturer will not be an option.

How Can I Protect My Stuff ?

During an EMP, electric fields, both non-static and static, are obstructed because electricity is directed around the mesh, producing continuous voltage on all sides but not the space in the middle. Cars and microwaves are NOT Faraday cages. As a rule of thumb, if you can listen to the radio or call your cell phone while inside any of them, they won’t work.

To ensure that your electronics survive an EMP spike, they have to be housed inside a Faraday cage shield, preferably several nested cages. What is a Faraday cage? It is a low-tech cage, box, or can made of metal and lined with cardboard that houses sensitive electronic equipment to harden it against an EMP or CME. The components inside absolutely cannot touch for the cage to function properly.

Michael Faraday, a scientist from England, invented a cage that is capable of shielding its contents from an EMP by rerouting the charge around the surface of the metal, in 1836. The more dense the metal, the better the contents in inside will be protected – that fact is why most preppers use metal trash cans as Faraday cages.

How well a Faraday cage would work under real world conditions remains unknown because they have only been tested in laboratory simulations. But, it still remains the best shot at saving your handheld 2-way radios, batteries, spare vehicle parts, etc.

There Are many opinions on whether or not these cages will work so… better safe than sorry.The mesh layer of conductive material in Faraday bags creates this protective skin.

If you’re worried about EMP obliterating your comms, invest in a Surplus PRC 77 radio and an EMP-resistant vehicle. Short range comms, that utilize VHF/UHF radios, can be up and running less than an hour after an EMP strike, if protected. Long range comms will take several hours to recover.

How well your vehicle will fare against an EMP will depend largely upon its age. There is a lot of debate about how old is old enough, when it comes to the durability of car parts from an EMP survival perspective. Some folks say any vehicle built prior to the early 1970s does not possess components with electronic components sensitive enough to be impacted by an EMP. Still others staunchly maintain a vehicle older than the 1950s or maybe the 1960s, will not still work after an EMP.

You can turn your garage into a Faraday cage in an attempt to harden your vehicle, ATV, and other electronic devices and survival gear. If you own a metal pole barn style garage, simply line the floor with sheet metal and then place several layers of thick cardboard or plywood on top of the metal to insulate the vehicles or equipment from the impact of the EMP.

To protect your electronic devices, you need to defend against the E1 phase, a surge similar to radio waves that penetrates ground-level devices such as power cords, circuit boards and antennas. The E3 phase, which travels through power and phone lines, is also worrisome. E3 energy travels over longer conductors, flooding connected equipment and causing a destructive power overload.

Formulate Plan B for operating your home and business without electronics or the Internet. How will you manage transactions? Inventory stock? Accept payments? To be safe, prepare yourself now to conduct all operations manually and to do cash only transactions.

What About Day-To-Day Power Surges?

For day-to-day protection, invest in quality surge protectors for your electronic devices, an affordable and reliable precaution. You’ll need one that’s UL-listed with a voltage of 330 volts or less, as well as a rapid response time. Buy a computer with an Ethernet slot, or get yourself a dedicated Ethernet surge protector. For optimal protection, add an uninterruptible power supply (UPS), an effective but more expensive option.

The UPS should be a double conversion supply tested to meet UL standards. While 60-90% of today’s vehicles are designed to withstand electromagnetic pulses of up to 25 kV/m, it’s always best to be prepared for the worst case scenario. If you know your way around cars, consider buying back-up modules for your vehicle’s key electronics.

What Is The Government Doing To Protect Us From An EMP?

Not much, is the short answer.

While nuclear weapons are destructive enough to level entire cities, the resultant EMP from one would likely be its most devastating effect. In 2001, in response to concern that crucial infrastructure and even the United States military would not hold up against an EMP strike, the EMP Commission was created by Congress. President Obama disbanded the committee and the potentially society-saving information that would come out of it, not long after taking office.

In 2008, the Commission delivered a report on the possible effects that an EMP strike would have on national infrastructures, recommending ways that the US could prepare, protect, and restore these if this kind of attack were ever to take place. Dr. William Forstchen’s One Second After was heralded on the floor of Congress by those elected officials and commission members who saw the writing on the wall and were urging, if not outright begging, for something to be done to protect the lives of Americans, our economy, and sanctity of this nation, from an EMP attack.

Their pleas largely fell upon deaf ears. Several bills were written to address the power grid’s frailties and to develop a full and actionable plan to prepare for an EMP attack – and to survive afterwards, but they never made it out of committee.

Why do perhaps the most important pieces of legislation introduced during our lifetimes keep getting buried? Disbelief such a SHTF event is really going to happen for one – but over money, mostly.

Hardening the power grid and taking other necessary steps to prepare American for either a man-made or natural EMP attack would cost billions of dollars. Why don’t our public servants just stop sending our hard-earned money to countries they readily and loudly proclaim their hate for us and curtail the tens of billions of dollars sent overseas for charitable reasons and spent on studies about that place shrimp on treadmills? That is a good question for which neither I, nor those politicians who continue to ignore this looming and very real SHTF thread, have no reasonable answer.

Final Word

An EMP attack is a strong possibility in today’s economically-strained, weaponized world. It is a swift, deadly, and silent force that relies on the deterioration of civil society into chaos and darkness. While it may appear to be a perfectly normal scientific phenomenon, its effects on humanity will be crippling. How prepared are you for an EMP strike?

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Jim
Jim
April 30, 2018 8:38 pm

Cannot recommend enough the book referenced in the article above “One Second After”. This is a fictional account of an EMP attack. It came out about 10 years ago. This will have you waking up at night in a cold sweat. Out.

Mustang
Mustang
  Jim
April 30, 2018 10:08 pm

Agree Jim. It is a very, very disturbing book that everybody should read. If you have the resources, start preparing NOW!!! Only the ones who properly prepare will survive. All others will die. No joke. Please everybody, turn off the TV and computer and read that book. I believe the authors name is William Forchen or something like that.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  Mustang
May 1, 2018 6:40 am

How do you intend to properly prepare for ninety nine melted down nuclear reactors, the only important result. Ninety nine fukushimas all at once. Everything would really start dying with a purpose the first time it rained.

US has 99 power generating reators, though there are bunches more spread across research facilitys and naval vessels. UB Amherst campus has a couple research reactors. Not sure they are the same level of mayhem.

Westcoastdeplorable (formerly Westcoaster)
Westcoastdeplorable (formerly Westcoaster)
  Jim
April 30, 2018 10:36 pm

Ditto. Dies the fire is another favorite and spawned an entire series.

Mike
Mike

The first four books of the ‘Dies The Fire’ series are a very sobering chronicle of a “Change” event (95% of everybody dies) and its aftermath. But more importantly, they describe the evolution of five separate community survival strategies. Individuals don’t. A cautionary tale.

As the series later drags on and on thru 13(?) volumes and three generations, more communities and conflicts emerge. It turns into a seemingly endless parade of Renaissance Fair and Society For Creative Anachronism scenes and battles. The most “advanced” of which is perhaps 1820’s America. Not an enjoyable thought for us children of tech.

As someone who can build and fix an extraordinary variety of things, it was heartbreaking to see how much of that knowledge was lost even in a decade. And the first new generation cannot even conceive how “The Ancients” (us 🙂 ) could build such an awe inspiring monument as the Golden Gate Bridge. So much lost. And un-recoverable.

Check Six
Check Six
  Jim
April 30, 2018 11:49 pm

“One Second After” is an excellent red pill.

If you want a very good analysis and recommendations as to how to reduce the electrical and electronic impact get Arthur Bradley’s book: “Disaster Preparedness for EMP Attacks and Solar Storms (Expanded Edition)Aug 19, 2012 ” Bradley is a PhD electrical engineer and has spent a lot of time playing in this arena.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
April 30, 2018 8:54 pm

After the EMP attack, all we gotta do is send a carrier pigeon over to Japan with a note to sell us spare parts. They send us ships full of circuit boards, and for the return voyage we fill it up with our fat chicks.

AC
AC
April 30, 2018 9:03 pm

This site has a quite good description, if anyone is interested:

http://www.futurescience.com/emp.html

http://www.futurescience.com/emp/E1-E2-E3.html

charlotte corday
charlotte corday
April 30, 2018 9:18 pm

Bring it on, lord, and start over.
It will be good for acoustic music, too.

Long time Lurker
Long time Lurker
April 30, 2018 9:27 pm

So Nasa was around in…. 1859? lol.. Nasa was formed in 1958, then invented a time machine to go see the event in 1958?

https://history.nasa.gov/factsheet.htm

“When the most recent and only recorded EMP provoking solar flare happened in 1859, it was dubbed the Carrington Event. Richard Carrington, an astronomer, watched the EMP unleash its power through his telescope lens and documented the event…”

“A monstrous power outage resulted, leaving more than six million people in the dark from Canada through New York to New Jersey. At the time, NASA experts proclaimed the solar flare possessed approximately one-third of the power that the Carrington Event carried…”

MN Steel
MN Steel
  Long time Lurker
April 30, 2018 10:47 pm

This was one of the more poorly-written pieces of doom-porn I have read (admittedly only half-read) in a long time.

Although English is my second language (Yooper is my first), the grammar, punctuation and straight-out dropping pieces from orbit demonstrated in this article would have garnered, at most, a “D” grade from my 6th grade English teacher.

From a high school teacher, probably a failing grade due to extensive copy-pasta, and a college prof would have probably tried to sodomize me with the paper if I tried to pass this off as legit.

There are plenty of genuine, comprehensive, well-thought-out articles on this subject on such highly regarded websites as SHTFplan.com, stevequayle.com, or even the famed zerohedge.com that are written somewhere above the 5th grade level and could hold one’s attention.

Great subject, poor execution, Yelp Review One (1) Star.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  Long time Lurker
April 30, 2018 11:32 pm

+1000 and only the tip of the iceberg of this turd-in-print.

I am working on a project for hardening military vehicles against HEMP events. Many of the claims of what HEMP does and does not do to electrical systems is fevered imagination. It’s not all-powerful, and it’s not magic.

Mike
Mike
  Rdawg
May 1, 2018 12:07 pm

Ditto. He portrays it as Magic.

Alfred1860
Alfred1860
  Long time Lurker
May 1, 2018 2:44 pm

Sloppy cut and paste job I’d say. In 1859 there was no electrical power at all, it was the telegraphs that were affected.

marblenecltr
marblenecltr
April 30, 2018 10:27 pm

Some day, a solar coronal mass ejection will happen, and our nuclear plants (more than 100) will lose the ability to be cooled. Melt downs all over the country. Congress has known this for years and has done nothing. The cost would be relatively low and would provide useful employment for some needing jobs.

rhs jr
rhs jr
April 30, 2018 10:59 pm

There was a CME that was 100X greater than the Carrington Event; it nearly wiped out life on Earth; there is geologic evidence on the Earth and the Moon (ref Youtube: Catastrophe at 12,900 BP).

Rdawg
Rdawg
  rhs jr
April 30, 2018 11:28 pm

Don’t worry. God will shield the righteous.

Just like when He caught you and set you down gently when you fell off that roof or whatever the fuck.

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Rdawg
May 1, 2018 12:33 am

It happened; you think I should lie?

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
April 30, 2018 11:03 pm

Direct from the “Russians” mouth…the plan was never to nuke the USA, the plan was to hit us with massive EMPs and wait for the collapse and walk in without having to fight. Makes it much harder to retaliate…nobody killed in the strike just destroyed infrastructure.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  Martel's Hammer
April 30, 2018 11:26 pm

Bullshit. You do realize that an EMP is a nuke detonated at high altitude? As in, delivered by a missile. We’re just going to sit back and watch the incoming missiles without retaliating?

Jake
Jake
  Rdawg
April 30, 2018 11:56 pm

The fear is that it may be launched just off the coast or in the Great Lakes, St. Lawrence Seaway, Gulf of Mexico, reach altitude and detonate in just a few minutes. I would think most defenses are against something coming down at us as opposed to going up over us. By the time someone “saw” it and said “WTF?” it would already be too late.
Most would have no idea what happened, just that nothing is working.

Check Six
Check Six
  Rdawg
May 1, 2018 12:06 am

Dog,

How about a few satellites in low earth orbit. Announce you are putting them up as always. Just have an extra 24 inch OD sphere on board. Then wait until you wish to use it. Thermo-nukes are not that big…

Also, above you indicated you were working on a hardening project for military vehicles. I know some have been hardened for 20 or so years and come up in the surplus market every so often.

Are you aware of any testing that has been done other than that cited in Arthur Bradley’s book?

Rdawg
Rdawg
  Check Six
May 1, 2018 12:12 am

I am not familiar with Arthur Bradley. Testing around here is done at Little Mountain, UT.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Rdawg
May 1, 2018 12:29 am

Au contraire so many ways….Aeroflot flight into Chicago or better Dallas…..dude. Satellite falling out of the sky over Kansas City…..Would we retaliate? Did you happen to notice that last guy we had in the WH? Would Barry (he who bows) fight back? Maybe, maybe not.

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Rdawg
May 1, 2018 12:43 am

What if it was a Fractional Orbital Bomb in a geostationary orbit that we weren’t aware of (our radars aren’t so sharp at painting objects 23,000 miles high) before retrofiring and we didn’t know who it belonged to?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Martel's Hammer
May 1, 2018 12:04 am

Why the fuck would Russia want to take over the US? Because they don’t have enough land? They need Lebensraum? If they want to learn how to make giant burritos or St Louis style ribs, they can learn it on YouTube.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Iska Waran
May 1, 2018 12:32 am

Not anymore but the USSR absolutely did. The Cold War was pretty hot much of the time…just through proxies and undisclosed US participants. Afghanistan was just one of many conflicts. What did you think all my buddies in the Fulda Gap were there for?

Mike
Mike
  Martel's Hammer
May 1, 2018 12:28 pm

Wouldn’t the Russkies and ChiComs want our gigantic TAX and LEO establishments rather than a dead, unusable infrastructure?

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
April 30, 2018 11:41 pm

Aliens, aliens, everywhere aliens…or at least the knowledge that the government is hiding information concerning the possibility of such. I can see a massive EMP hit where all described above is lost. After a short time of economic and social chaos/collapse, the ET will appear (only they are extra dimensional, not terrestrial), and for the simple acknowledgement that ‘they’ are gods, and for the admission of such, (along with the praise and thanksgiving for their messianic offer of salvation), power will be restored, implants installed, and viola-we have the Mark of the Beast and One who will rule the earth !!

Looks like something only seen at the bottom of a bowl of the end of a good hog-leg.

“Take therefore no thought for the morrow, for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof”. KJV

rocky raccoon
rocky raccoon
  ordo ab chao
May 1, 2018 8:45 am

My theory is similar, except the aliens are behind the obesity epidemic in an attempt “To Serve Man”

Mike
Mike
  rocky raccoon
May 1, 2018 12:32 pm

Wasn’t that V on tv back in 1983? 🙂

MadMike
MadMike
May 1, 2018 12:11 am

The truth is, nobody knows.
Everything is extrapolation from the Starfish Prime nuke, computer simulations, and a few non-nuclear ground based EMP tests.
Read the above book, do a little research, make your own guess.
If the ultimate “1800’s lifestyle for a hundred years” disaster happens, no amount of stored fuel, food, medicine or ammo will be enough. You better have serious 19th century skills.

Ozum
Ozum
  MadMike
May 1, 2018 12:36 am

It ain’t the 18oos , it’s instant “stone age” . The few months between the “event” and EVERYONES death (in the affected area) will be gruesome and horrifying. ALL will die, mostly from simple starvation. Those that know how to fish and are close to a bountiful lake or river, or the ocean stand any chance of survival , but only for a few agonizing years. Planet earth is a horror movie, and we’re glued to our seats. More popcorn, please.

rhs jr
rhs jr
May 1, 2018 12:56 am

We are all here because at some time an ancestor consumed “long pork” (survival cannibalism). Probably one of the surest ways to become dinner is to be an anti-Second Amendment Fruitcake: Go ahead punk, be my dinner.

Llpoh
Llpoh
May 1, 2018 3:11 am

I stopped reading after the first sentence. EMPs more dangerous than Yellowstone blowing or a big asteroid hitting? What bullshit.

Erasmus Le Dolt
Erasmus Le Dolt
May 1, 2018 4:34 am

And then there are EMP weapons …not mentioned by the subject’s writer. The best book I’ve read is a financial thriller novel ‘Gatecrash’ that details how Tesla based technology EMPs are used in a ‘False Flag’ targeted on Chicago. My fear is this could really happen in our current environment and his reasons why are well laid out. Really good current stuff.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
May 1, 2018 6:56 am

Its extinction level, period. Raise your hand if you think the earth can sustain ninety nine nuclear meltdowns, and a thriving human population at the same time.

How many meltdowns can we have at once with no capacity for repair before it kills the world? Some say fukushima is extinction level. It is slow killing the pacific, and how long before that spreads? And if it was emp related, no one would be able to even accomplish what piss little has been done to contain fukushima, much less huge sarcophogi as in chernobyl. When the diesel runs out for those generators supporting the reactors that survived the initial emp, then all 99 US reactors would melt down, even if they managed to get into cold shutdown, because reactors require outside power.

Pick a different thing to prep for. An emp is not long term survivable. Use your resources towards survivable scenarios.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Martin brundlefly
May 1, 2018 10:58 am

Prep for death; it’s the only certain scenario.

Erasmus Le Dolt
Erasmus Le Dolt
May 1, 2018 8:03 am

EMP weapons are the threat, not some wacko country drooping a nuke to explode at altitude. The simple reason is we have vast military resources outside our borders, and the retaliation would be swift. And the chances of not knowing which country did it must be close to zero…therefore, a nuclear detonation ain’t gonna happen.

Guy White
Guy White
June 10, 2018 4:35 pm

Read EMP Hoax (Independent, 2018) by David Hathaway