“Boring… Next”

Guest Post by Eric Peters

When financial analyst Toni Sacconaghi of Sanford C. Bernstein asked Tesla CEO Elon Musk about the money-losing electric car company’s capital requirements going forward (Tesla has burned through – cue Dr. Evil – one billion dollars in three of the last four quarters) Musk replied: “Boring, bonehead questions are not cool. Next?”

Fo sheer effrontery, this tops even The Chimp’s I am the Decider!

Neither man gives a damn about the damage – human or financial – imposed on others. Nor that others are made to pay for it all. They don’t even give lip service to pretending  anything they do bothers them in the least. All that matters is the Great Dream – whether it’s “regime change” in some resource-rich country which hasn’t attacked us (a war crime, once upon a time) or this equally demented business of manufacturing electric cars that almost no one would freely buy absent the subsidies and mandates.

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Raise your hand, ask a reasonable question – and it’s dismissed as “boring” and “boneheaded.”

Sacconaghi was also lectured by Musk to not “make a federal case” out of Tesla failing to achieve the ludicrous 25 percent gross profit margin on sales of the Model 3 it claimed it would make. A reasonable question, given most legitimate car manufacturers – those whose cars sell on their economic merits, without needing taxpayer-financed propping-up via subsidies and mandates – earn about 4 percent or so.

“That’s something that we’ll solve like within three months to six months later,” Musk said.

The sun will come out, tomorrow…

The guy is a crony capitalist Rasputin. He bewitches and seduces. Whatever the ersatz Iron Man says is taken as holy writ, not to be questioned.

 

Another analyst, Joe Spak of RBC Capital Markets, had the audacity to ask Elon a question relating to the true cost of the Model 3 – production of which is also nothing close to what Elon promised, but never mind that.

“Boring. Next,” came the reply.

With good reason. Move way from that one as quickly as possible.

Musk likes to tout the “estimated” $35,000 base price of the Model 3 – about half the price (but not the actual cost) of the Model S. The touting is critical. Musk knows – even if he won’t admit – that the electric car is a non-starter as a mass-market car unless the price (if not the cost – more on that in a moment) comes down to a number that the mass market can deal with.

Given that most people – most families – have an annual income of $60,000 or less, a car that costs $40,000 or more is not going to work economically, regardless of its “carbon footprint” or how quickly it can accelerate to 60 MPH. Even if it didn’t take 9-10 times as long to recharge vs. refuel (and even then, only a partial  – 80 percent – charge due to load imposed by the “fast” charger) and wasn’t range-gimped vs. a regular car.

So Musk says $35,000.

But what he says is like what those late-night commercials touting rapid weight loss without dieting or exercise say. You could lose as much as 20 pounds in a week! But in fact, you probably won’t lose any pounds and may even gain some – meanwhile, your wallet is lighter, having paid for the Miracle Weight Loss pills.

Once you “configure” – in Musk-speak – a Model 3 (assuming you can ever get one; remember those ongoing production delays; thousands of people who put down money to secure themselves a place in line have yet to receive a car) it gets pricier and pricier. Elon doesn’t tell you that the highest-performing battery pack – which you need to get the best-case range/performance touted (310 miles vs. the standard 220) and other features most buyers would probably want – kicks the price of the Model 3 to $44,000.

Spak touched a nerve there.

The Model 3 – touted as a mass-market car – is in fact a high-priced luxury-performance car. Any car with a price tag of $35,000-plus is a car that costs $20,000 more than a perfectly sound economy sedan such as a Hyundai Elantra, as a for-instance. There is a reason why Hyundai sells about 15,000 of them in a month – without subsidies, mandates or expecting buyers to wait years (literally, in the case of the Model 3) to actually get hold of one.  Tesla sold about 3,800 Model 3s in April – each one a subsidized, crony capitalist affront to the free exchange of goods and services.

“Sorry,” Musk said, “these questions are so dry. They’re killing me.”

Yeah. Me, too.

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Work-In-Progress
Work-In-Progress
May 6, 2018 5:47 pm

“Given that most people – most families – have an annual income of $60,000 or less, a car that costs $40,000 or more is not going to work economically…”

Any family making $60k/year purchasing a $40k car is stoooooopid unless it lasts 10-20 years without needing a new engine/battery pack. Even at 10 years, I think it is unwise.

I talked to a good friend of mine yesterday. He is a mechanic. He said he could put a brand new 4-cylinder diesel and transmission into a rolling shell for about $8-9k. The engine and trans would not only last for 500,000 miles but would also get 35mpg. I know what my next vehicle will be. A nice little Ford Ranger. Either that or a 6-cylinder diesel in a 4×4 Ford Ranger.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 6, 2018 6:30 pm
whiskey tango foxtrot
whiskey tango foxtrot
May 6, 2018 6:43 pm

Hoisted on his own sociopathic petard. Just as La Cosa Nostra dislikes flashy Dons, the Wall Street heavyweights don’t like arrogant pricks publicizing their disdain for chump shareholders. I look for this guy’s star to fade.

KaD
KaD
May 6, 2018 7:35 pm

If it looks like an assclown and talks like an assclown….

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
May 6, 2018 8:15 pm

According to several sources Musk’s corporations received approximately 5 billion in taxpayer dollars as of 2015. It’s almost impossible to find any information on the years 2016-to date.

Seems like a lot of money to me, but what do I know.

22winmag - refugee from ZeroHedge who just couldn't take the explosion of doom porn and the avalanche of near-hourly Bitcoin stories
22winmag - refugee from ZeroHedge who just couldn't take the explosion of doom porn and the avalanche of near-hourly Bitcoin stories
May 6, 2018 8:46 pm

More cowbell.

Less Eric Peters.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
May 6, 2018 8:46 pm

Suddenly Bernie Sanders gaurenteed income for every American doesn’t sound to crazy . Look at what we as taxpayers already support or subsidize to insure its profitability . GM , Tesla , Crysler the entire railroad industry and public transportation systems nationwide . Let’s not leave out nearly all the cities with section 8 welfare for landlords and cities ! Cities are assured the property tax from the landlord and the landlord gets a check from the taxpayer for at least double or triple what the market price should be so WTF .
Ass wipe billionaire narcissistic scumbags like Musk can dream on and on and on … me too , me too , me too …
No end in site LMAO !
This too shall end BADLY !

pedrothemerciless
pedrothemerciless
May 6, 2018 9:35 pm

What’s the best way to play against Tesla? Options? How far out would you go?

starfcker
starfcker
  pedrothemerciless
May 6, 2018 10:28 pm

Why would you play against Tesla? Are you trying to throw your money away? You have any analytical skills at all, or are you just listen to what non businessman like Peters say?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  starfcker
May 7, 2018 8:12 am

Perhaps you could use your analytical skills to explain it all to the rest of us that seem to have different ones?

starfcker
starfcker
  Anonymous
May 7, 2018 11:19 am

Tesla is continuing to see demand for its first mass market car, the Model 3, with an average of 1,800 new orders a day.

Here is the article https://www.recode.net/2017/8/2/16087432/tesla-model-3-electric-car-manufacture-preorder-cancellations-elon-musk

That is just under 23 BILLION dollars annually!!! What more do you need analyzed you ignorant sack of battery acid? Within two years the very minor factory issues with the Model S will be resolved and Tesla expects to get $75 BILLION in revenue from that. A hundred billion dollars in revenue and that just the start, and all without harming the planet Earth.

Invest in Tesla you ignorant fool. I spent every dime I have on Tesla stock and even borrowed money to buy more, that’s how sure I am that within two years I’ll have more money than all you punks here on TBP. So, blow me.

daddysteve
daddysteve
  starfcker
May 7, 2018 11:38 am

I find elaborate sarcasm delicious. Serve me up another helping please.

So it goes
So it goes
  starfcker
May 7, 2018 12:15 pm

Wow, are you going to be
Unhappy camper ..you should
be sure and mortgage your
Home and buy some amazon
Stock while your at it

pompous twit
pompous twit
May 6, 2018 9:57 pm

tesla is the yugo of electric cars