Netanyahu: “Let’s You and Him Fight”: Brandishing the American Military

Guest Post by Fred Reed

Why did the Cockatoo-in-Chief renege on the Iran deal deeply prized by Russia, China, France, Germany, England, and the European Union? Why did he deliberately damage relations with Europe and cost American workers many thousands of jobs at Boeing among others? Why do all of this to hurt a country that poses no danger to the United States?

Israel.

Israel, Israel. Israel. Israel.

Always Israel.

If Iran were a threat to the existence of Israel, things would be different. If Muslims conquered the Jews, they would presumably treat them as badly as Israelis, and very likely worse. It would be ugly in the extreme. To prevent this, use of the American military would be justified.

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But Iran does not threaten the existence of Israel. It does threaten Israel’s dominance in the Mid-East. Iran is far larger and more populous than Israel, strategically located, and has vast amounts of oil. It is a large market for many European products. By contrast, Israel is small and has nothing anyone needs or wants. Left to itself, Iran would become the dominant regional power. It moves fast in that direction now with burgeoning trade with Europe in, among many other things, airliners. With economic influence comes political influence.

Consequently Israel does not want Iran to prosper. If it can, Israel will use the American military to prevent this prospering. It will destroy America’s relations with the rest of the world to prevent it. It is doing so.

As thinking people know, the twaddle about the Iranian’s development of an atomic bomb is just that–twaddle. The Europeans know this, which is why they are not alarmed. The US government know it, since the intelligence agencies have repeatedly said that Iran does not have a program aimed at producing a nuclear weapon.

But: Whenever the Amrican government, or those controlling it, wants to drive the US into a war, it invents a frightening danger and warns of it over and over and over until a poorly educated public believes it: The Maine, the Gulf of Tonkin, Iraq’s WMD, the Iranian bomb. It’s a frightening world, Washington tells us. Things go bump in the night. Boo.

Where does Trump fit into this? Although his supporters offer him as a masterly statesman, biographies, which few read, show him to be profoundly ignorant, incoherent, narcissistic, weak, and easily manipulated. He loves attention and craves praise. He is also corrupt. As a businessman he danced just this side of the law in many shady real-estate deals. All of this is documented, but few will read of it.

Some will say that this isn’t true. Go back and look at the things he said during the campaign, the positions he was going to take before he was modified. He astonished people who worked in his White House not just by his lack of knowledge but his lack of interest in learning. We are ruled by a histrionic dwarf.

But, in a country with no checks and balances on presidential power, foreign policy is what he says it is, and America attacks whoever he wants it to attack.

So why did he ditch the Iran deal? There is of course anti-Jewish posting on the web to the effect that the Jews are manipulating the government to go to destroy Iran for the benefit of Israel. This doesn’t hold water, or only a little water. Surveys have shown that American Jews favor the Iran deal more than do other Americans. This  probably is because they are more attentive and  better informed than the notoriously clueless US public. (e.g.  JStreet  and WashPost.)  But while “the Jews” didn’t sink the Iran deal, a comparatively small number of Israel-firsters did. These are the Neocons, warlike and heavily Jewish, plus the Jewish lobby AIPAC plus a few Jewish billionaires. Collectively they determine American foreign policy, and not for the benefit of America–which, again, has nothing to gain and much to lose by being manipulated  into a war that does not matter to America.

Members of AIPAC are often accused of dual loyalty. I don’t think so, though it is the best we can hope for. They should recuse themselves, though of course they will not.

The assertion that America should fight only wars in the America interest will be called, sigh, anti-semitism. It is not. Yes, there exists in some quarters an obsessive, grinding hatred of Jews. Historically this hostility has been common if not universal and  has led to brutal pogroms. But it has nothing to do with war against Iran. The desire for America to have an independent foreign policy hardly suggests a Cossack mentality. There is no reason to let Israel and a small set of Israeli patriots in New York  force policies much to the harm of the United States.

But this is not at all unlikely. In Washington–where I worked in journalism for decades–fear of Jews is so great that no one dares say what a great many are thinking. It gets ridiculous. I remember many years back interviewing in the Pentagon the general who headed the armor command, whose name I forget. In such interviews there is usually a babysitter present, often a major from public affairs, who tries to manage spin.

The general and I were chatting about tanks, in which we both had a technical interest. He commented that the Merkava, a homebrew Israel tank, was reasonably good but not in a class with the American M1. As inflammatory comments go, this was truly lame. Yet when I left, the babysitter came charging down the corridor to assure me that the general was not insulting the Israeli tank, the general didn’t mean, and the major hoped I wouldn’t think etc. It’s that crazy.

Whether Trump believes what he says about Iran’s imaginary lunge for a Bomb is not clear. In  Washington it is routine to lie about this or that dreadful danger so as to herd the deplorables toward a desired folly–but is Trump herding or herded? He is clueless about things military and appears to have no grasp of technology. Geography is not his strong suit, as witness his invention of a country called “Nambia.” Netanyahu and the Neocons outclass him by a wide margin and apparently drive him like a truck.

If Trump were an American President, he would tell the Israelis to fight their own wars with  their own military.  Is he? Watch.

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Zarathustra
Zarathustra
May 13, 2018 7:27 pm

“Although his supporters offer him as a masterly statesman, biographies, which few read, show him to be profoundly ignorant, incoherent, narcissistic, weak, and easily manipulated. He loves attention and craves praise. He is also corrupt. As a businessman he danced just this side of the law in many shady real-estate deals. All of this is documented, but few will read of it.”
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Trump is on the way to surpass W. as the worst president of my lifetime. That would be quite an achievement.

Tully
Tully
  Zarathustra
May 13, 2018 7:44 pm

Are you by any chance a libertarian?

starfcker
starfcker
  Tully
May 13, 2018 8:02 pm

You spelled liberal wrong, Tully. I do agree with you Zara, W was the worst In our lifetime.

kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
  starfcker
May 13, 2018 8:30 pm

Obama was the worst – by a light year.
Tell me one good thing Obama did in 8 years.

starfcker
starfcker

W started us on the path of endless war, not even trying to win, and was too dumb to stop the neocons from totally taking over foreign policy. Obama was a weakling. He wasn’t going to stop it. W allowed the worst foreign attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor. W by a mile.

zedsdeadbaby
zedsdeadbaby

1.
He didn’t pay a porn star to have sex with him…

2.
He overpaid on his taxes

zedsdeadbaby
zedsdeadbaby

1.
He didn’t pay a porn star to have sex with him…

splurge
splurge

The two good things Obama did in his terms was undone in the first month of the Trump term. He stopped providing militarizing equipment. to ordinary cops. and restricted the use of civil forfeiture in federal cases. He was mostly a disaster but there were a couple of decent bits.

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
  starfcker
May 14, 2018 8:01 am

Did you fall asleep in 2008? Have you been paying attention as to what’s being uncovered albeit at a snail’s pace, since Jan/16?

W had his faults and I’m certainly no fan but he didn’t hate this country.

Lord, it’s shit I read here like that, that has made my presence scarce as of late.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Tully
May 14, 2018 8:51 am

He’s a mohammedan=fuk.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  Zarathustra
May 13, 2018 7:49 pm

Worse than obama? I suppose there is still time, but he aint there yet.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Martin brundlefly
May 14, 2018 7:48 pm

W – Lied about everything. Claimed to be against intervention as a candidate “humble foreign policy,” once elected did the opposite. More than anyone he elevated the neocons as the source of policy and despite failure after failure they are still there. Domestically he increased the welfare state and presided over the greatest monetary bubble in history. Doubled the national debt. His record of failure is everywhere…The Koreas, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Europe (expanded NATO to Russia’s borders).

Just as the Versailles Treaty destroyed the 20th century, the Presidency of W has gone a long way towards destroying the 21st. It’s not even a contest. Obama was ten times the leader W was. W was an unmitigated disaster in every way.

Rob157
Rob157
  Zarathustra
May 13, 2018 9:17 pm

But..But… Trump is only playing 93 dimensional chess! He’ll MAGA! You’ll see!
LOL…

anarchyst
anarchyst
May 13, 2018 7:33 pm

Anyone who has taken a trip to Israel will see how Israel persecutes Christians. They destroyed a world heritage site monastery that was 1400 years old on the Israel-West Bank border in November and before that closed an all girls Catholic school with plans to turn the property into a nigh club and convenient store and never compensated the Catholic church for the property. They also built a big wall right through Bethlehem and established another settlement right outside it. Plus go for a tour of the holy sites and enjoy the spit and your butt and breasts being grabbed by “modern” Orthodox Jews and haredim. The tour guide gets most of the abuse though if he, she is foreign.

The Jerusalem Post reported that former Israeli Defense Force (IDF) Commander-in-Chief Gabi Ashkenazi told a conference that U.S. taxpayers have contributed more to the Israeli defense budget than Israeli taxpayers in the past three years.

The Jerusalem Post Artical title
World has no right to give Israel a ‘red light’
By HERB KEINON AND JPOST STAFF
11/09/2012 published date

These are the same people who own America…The same America with people like Chuck Schumer and his proposed passes and related searches to board trains, an America where you are felt up at the airport thanks to their false flag ops. Your papers please a few questions please…. welcome to Zion slavery my fellow American, Our military will soon be wearing Blue and White arm bands, in place of the American flag, with the star of David at their center…

Americans must continue to ask themselves how are we benefiting from giving Israel our undying, blind support when most of the rest of the world opposes them.

It is a well known fact that American politicians from both parties are bought and paid for by Israel in the way of campaign contributions so it is of no surprise why our government supports this regime.

It would be a different story if we got something in return for our purchased loyalty, but we get nothing for the billions of $ in weapons and aid we throw at them year after year.

Do we not care that we sold our integrity and respect for a few million in campaign contributions?

Take the religion and the racism out of the equation and look at it from a purely pragmatic point of view. No Jew would take that deal.

The historical pattern continues: Jews are nothing but criminals. Israel continues to be the world’s center for money laundering, drug trade/transit, and war crimes.

You must learn about all the crimes that Jews have committed against Christians and Muslims through out history for which you will not be taught in any US school. The Russian Jews were the worst and starved people to death to steal their land. Drop a penny around a Jew and it will be sucked up their hook nose so fast that you won’t even notice it.

The Jews just can’t hide their arrogance and disrespect for any other people. They have manipulated our American government to try and set up puppet democracies in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Egypt and Syria.
Many of our young folks came back from those wars dead, maimed and shellshocked. We incurred a $ 17 TRILLION debt due to all the warring we did on Israel’s behalf in the Middle East.
For all that, we received NO appreciation. NO thanks. NO money from any country over there to help pay our debt. And, when we finally got fed up and wanted to use diplomacy instead of war, Netanyahu spit on us and called us names.
YET, OUR BALL-LESS government still runs to Israel for new orders instead of telling them to grow up and learn to live with their neighbors. Instead of getting money for being mercenaries, our government could only cut the COLA for Social Security in order to help pay for the costs of those wars.
IT’S TIME FOR A WHOLE NEW GOVERNMENT, folks. When will you people get fed up with the waste of our taxpayer dollars?

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  anarchyst
May 13, 2018 7:45 pm

Pretty harsh. I think we need to parse our Jews. Mizrahim, or middle eastern Jews have never caused us any grief. Our problem is with the Askenazism, who are not blood Jews at all but rather eastern europeans. Not even all of them embraced the evil ideology of zionism until most of their intellectual leaders were killed in the Nazi concentration camps (by disease rather than intention but does it matter?). The satanic behavior and ideology of the zionists will eventually create a backlash that affects all Jews, but there are some who are fighting against it….Liberal Jews who want nothing to do with the zionist apartheid state: http://www.mondoweiss.net

Grimbold
Grimbold
  Zarathustra
May 14, 2018 12:52 am

Wow man, you are living in la la land. Mizarahi jews are far more zionist than ashkenazi, as a general rule, and I am telling this as an Israeli. Other than that, enjoy your hatred, most of us don’t give a damn..those liberal jews you describe are the self hating, cultural marxist types that in the US are forcing you to bake cakes for gays and brainwashing your kids minds to love the state and the collective. ‘toll kora mibeyn eyneha’- take the plank out of your own eye first.

Fulton
Fulton
  anarchyst
May 13, 2018 8:47 pm

So, how do you REALLY feel about the Jews? LOL!?

starfcker
starfcker
  anarchyst
May 13, 2018 11:04 pm

“Jews are nothing but criminals.” It’s like you people live in an alternate universe. I’m guessing you never knew a Jew in your life, if simpletons can sell you stuff like this and you believe it.

John Prokovich
John Prokovich
May 13, 2018 7:33 pm

Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem, so it is written in God’s Word. Amen.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  John Prokovich
May 13, 2018 7:46 pm

Too mealy mouthed. Whose side are you on? Pray for the death of Zionism. In Jesus’s name, amen.

starfcker
starfcker
  Zarathustra
May 13, 2018 11:06 pm

There’s not going to be any death of Zionism, Zara. The forces that would wish it dead are much too weak to do anything about it. Don’t ever bet on the weak horse

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  starfcker
May 14, 2018 8:45 am

Demographics alone will kill it in a generation or two at most. Iran predicts 25 years. That sounds about right.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Zarathustra
May 14, 2018 8:55 am

The Persians had that dream 2500 years ago.

Grimbold
Grimbold
  Zarathustra
May 14, 2018 10:40 am

Actualy, nope. The Jewish birthrate is 3.2 per women, the arab birthrate in Israel is 3.1 as of 2016. Also, we have positive immigration rate, they have a negative one as they prefer europe for the welfare and don’t have too strong ideaolgical ties to israel.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  John Prokovich
May 13, 2018 11:20 pm

When you say Amen, who are you paying tribute to by saying Amen, RA? MAYBE?
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Mqg25
Mqg25
  John Prokovich
May 14, 2018 12:25 am

It’s amazing how Christians bandy the Bible verse in Psalms 122 without really knowing the meaning. They worship the present day usurpers of Jerusalem as if they were the ones we should be praying for when it means the exact opposite. The Chapter of David’s Psalm is talking about the millennial age and beyond, not the present day. Praying for the coming rule of Christ when his house is set in Jerusalem. That’s when peace will come. Guess what? It ain’t there yet. Your usurper friends are setting it up for a false peacemaker who they want to rule over the new global order.
…”so it is written,” Can I get an Amen John?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Mqg25
May 14, 2018 3:41 pm

Get one from me… amen.

Jack Lovett
Jack Lovett
May 13, 2018 8:28 pm

This, a well writen artical. Yes the trumpster is bombastic,a fraud,fake.liar zionist sock puppett . I would pray for the Palistinians. They have endured quite enough.

AC
AC
May 13, 2018 8:42 pm

If Muslims conquered the Jews, they would presumably treat them as badly as Israelis [treat the Arabs?], and very likely worse. It would be ugly in the extreme. To prevent this, use of the American military would be justified.

Hold up there. Why the should we lift a finger to protect Israel, under any circumstance? Of what real benefit is their existance to us?

If what the Arabs (or actually Persians in this case) might *hypothetically* do to the jews would justify American military intervention to save (presumably 6 gorillion) jews, why then does what Israel is *actually* doing right now to the Palestinian Arabs not justify American military intervention against Israel right now to stop it?

No more ‘foreign aid’ for Israel. We should make loans and sell arms to both sides, secured by their natural resources.

Grimbold
Grimbold
  AC
May 14, 2018 12:57 am

I don’t know what Israel is doing to the arabs here right now (there is no such thing as Palestinians) that is worse than any arab goverment’s treatment of it’s citizans. Actually, the israeli arabs have much better incomes, life expectancy and social mobility compared to egyptian, lebanonian and even jordanian arabs.
I grew up in Lod, with arabs all around me, I see how they live. Also served in the territoties. Nothing close to the apartheid state you like blathering about.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  AC
May 14, 2018 8:47 am

Yup. To be fair, we should send our most sophisticated weapons to the Gazans and let them deal with the cancer.

Grimbold
Grimbold
  Zarathustra
May 14, 2018 10:43 am

Then we will likely have to kill quite a lot of them in self defense. Do you want that?

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Grimbold
May 14, 2018 10:57 am

You’re already doing that, so might as well make it a fair fight.

grimbold
grimbold
  Zarathustra
May 14, 2018 2:53 pm

still in la la land..right now we are killing (in the territories and gaza) less than traffic accidents by far, and lower than Baltimore’s murder rate. You are talking about war, where tens of thousands will die (most all of them arabs). What a nobel sentiment.

The USA should leave both sides alone, send Israel no money and send the Arabs no money, and you will see the violence will quickly vanish. actually, it is sort of happening of late- the violent outbreaks (Intifadas etc) become much weaker, much less damaging and mostly self-immolating – the arabs are about done.

RHS Jr
RHS Jr
May 13, 2018 9:27 pm

I’ll pray for Jews and Muslims to come to a saving knowledge of the truth, then will there be peace in the Middle East.

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
May 13, 2018 10:34 pm

Greetings,
I’m not a Q anon believer and nor do I believe that Trump is a puppet of Israel. Here is what I believe.

Trump ramped up his rhetoric against Iran right after his attorney’s office was illegally raided. I saw this illegal raid as a shot across the bow of ship Trump by a very desperate Mueller that has not been able to dig up much of anything in over a year. Quite frankly, the DOJ and FBI have zero credibility left.

Were I Trump and I were backed into a corner then I’d have to look for some dirt somewhere to shut these klowns down, right? Well, what better place to look than the “Deal” Obama made with the mullahs? It is a “deal” after all and not a treaty because the Senate never approved of it. In this “deal”, Iran got its 150 billion dollars in assets and pallets of cash. Gosh, I wonder if any of the “middlemen” took some of that unmarked untraceable money for themselves? Hmmmmm.

To put additional pressure on Iran and goad them even more we had Israel blow up everything Iranian currently in Syria. Israel is working for Trump and not the other way around as Israel is the one putting its ass on the line and on the receiving end of all those missiles – not us.

The mullahs have now publicly stated that if this foolishness doesn’t stop then they are going to name names. This is why the former administration is running around all over the place trying to keep this “deal” together as their names are probably on the top of the list. Iran is going to have to work with Trump and he is going to find out where all the bodies are hidden or Iran will be crushed. It is a gangster move.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  NickelthroweR
May 14, 2018 9:47 am

I think you’re onto something. I was laying in bed last night thinking about it. This whole thing with Iran is less about “Iran” and more about domestic problems that Trump Co is dealing with.

This is about dirty secrets. The signal from Iran this weekend is that they are willing to expose them. Also explains why the Russians have stood down in Syria.

Team Obama is in panic mode. Things aren’t working out like they’d planned.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  NickelthroweR
May 14, 2018 12:19 pm

“Israel is working for Trump and not the other way around as Israel is the one putting its ass on the line and on the receiving end of all those missiles – not us.”
Nickle, your words here encapsulate my view of Israel, consistently explaining actions of the region; since being a passive student of my Air Force father’s curriculum at Ft. McNair’s War College while a senior in high school. And as a rule of thumb in viewing and interpreting Israel throughout my adult life.

So today is the birthday of Israel. May 14, 1948. It is three months younger than I am.
And curious to me is 1948 is considered the year television came into existence.

As long as I can recall I have viewed Israel as a puppet of the US. The purpose though seldom openly stated is to have a force in the ME to give us/USA/UK an ally to offset an alliance of oil countries. When we gave them nukes it made sense for us to have a deterrent against bears and insure continued influence and control of oil in the MENA. Ever since the days of President Carter and the Shah the future was set and continues today.

America found American Jewish influence to be very useful. And (((they))) gained power and influence, to the point where goy are marginalized [as they rightly deserve according to ancient views toward non jews]. The engagement and fray continue with disputes splayed and played here on this site and elsewhere. Israel/Zionism is at least, an antidote to Wahhabist domination. Woe be to Iran and the Shia crescent.

I quote two notable movies. Lawrence of Arabia and The English Patient. Both movies reinforce my views and help me understand how things have come to be.

Those men in the desert were smarter than you. They assumed he could be useful. So they saved him, but when he was no longer useful they left him.”
― Michael Ondaatje, The English Patient

“Why are you not smarter? It’s only the rich who can’t afford to be smart. They’re compromised. They got locked years ago into privilege. They have to protect their belongings. No one is meaner than the rich. Trust me. But they have to follow the rules of their shitty civilised world. They declare war, they have honour, and they can’t leave. But you two. We three. We’re free.”
― Michael Ondaatje, The English Patient

The people of England have been led in Mesopotamia into a trap from which it will be hard to escape with dignity and honor. T. E. Lawrence

And a final quote that tells me much about myself:
The doctrinal differences between Hinduism and Buddhism and Taoism are not anywhere near as important as doctrinal differences among Christianity and Islam and Judaism. Holy wars are not fought over them because verbalized statements about reality are never presumed to be reality itself.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

nkit
nkit
May 14, 2018 12:15 am

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rhs jr
rhs jr
May 14, 2018 6:26 am

Congress has put sanctions on a dozen countries, most not as vicious as Israel, but never on Israel! We are like slaves on a ZOG ship. The Oligarchs pass a ballot box around and we vote but nothing changes! If I could destroy ZOG somehow like Samson & the Philistines, I would so my people could go free.

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
May 14, 2018 8:10 am

Well this was it for me. Your stories about S Philly and your spot on economics are wonderful but crap like this isn’t worth my time to pick through.

I’ll look for your stories on DirectorBlue where I first read you.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  MMinLamesa
May 14, 2018 9:03 am

Good riddance. Don’t come back.

MN Steel
MN Steel
May 14, 2018 11:46 am

I really like how Mr. Reed has the discernment of a diamond trader when it comes to telling us plebs who is good and who is bad.

It sure is refreshing to not be told, for once, that illegal Mexicans/Central Americans/South Americans/Citizens of The World are not bad, but good, and there is nothing that can be done to change them living here, while disregarding Operation Wetback and Fed Bureau of Prisons stats.

http://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_citizenship.jsp

It is refreshing to see that it is not all Jews that are bad, just a few…

“These are the Neocons, warlike and heavily Jewish, plus the Jewish lobby AIPAC plus a few Jewish billionaires. Collectively they determine American foreign policy, and not for the benefit of America–which, again, has nothing to gain and much to lose by being manipulated into a war that does not matter to America.”

But, like he says, you can’t come out and say they control the US policy on foreign or domestuc affairs, including immigration and war, or you’re “anti-semitic” and mercilessly attacked.

Don’t even point out any patterns, they’re anti-semitic, too.

Like the conservative number of 109 countries that have expelled Jews over the years, it was all those countries’ fault, they had no reason to do so even if they realized that decisions were not made for the home populations’ benefit.

That’s what I like about Fred, he really revs up the ol’ brain engine without disengaging the clutch.

There are obviously times that the baby will need to be thrown out with the bathwater.

This is one of those times, when the baby is named Damien, and the choice is to get rid of the baby or grip the fence when the nuclear hellstorm comes.

The time for half-measures is behind us.

Stucky
Stucky
May 14, 2018 12:02 pm

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Roger
Roger
May 14, 2018 7:37 pm

Here we are debating which was worse, Bush or Obama. Gee, maybe folks will one day realize that ChucK Baldwin was right, that there’s not a dimes worth of difference between Republicans and Democrats.

Who is Chuck Baldwin? You know, he is the guy you should have voted for President but no, you had to vote for John McCain.

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