Time to Stand-To…or Stand Down

By Tim “xrugger” Stebbins for The Burning Platform

The Problem

The substance of this particular rant finds its roots in three premises: First, that the depth and pervasiveness of federal corruption precludes any possibility of a peaceful reformation of the institutions of national government. Second, that a majority of the population of this nation have become so morally compromised, spiritually deadened, and economically dependent that they will be incapable of surviving any meaningful reform of our national institutions, peaceful or otherwise. Third, that excising the cancerous tumor, which sits astride the Potomac, will almost certainly lead to some level of societal breakdown and the ensuing chaos and violence will result in the destruction of a large part of the current population.

Can any thinking person doubt that the national government has moved so far beyond the boundaries set for it by the Founders as to be unrecognizable to both them and the posterity they enshrined in the Preamble? To be fair, the sad story of human governance tells us that when any sovereignty entity (be it an individual, a city, or a state) relinquishes any portion of that sovereignty to a more central authority, the result is never more liberty. The seeds of tyranny sprouted in the national soil before the ink was dry on the Constitution. If there existed one day of true liberty in this country, it was the day before the signing of that document. Everything after has been yet another chapter in the endless struggle of free men against those who would twist and pervert any good thing in order to lord it over their fellow men. Once the original colonies relinquished their sovereignty to a central power there could be no other result than the federal carbuncle that afflicts the nation today. Lincoln’s War only accelerated the consolidation of federal power, but that is a subject for another day.

The fact that it has taken nearly two and a half centuries for the United States to reach its present state of decay is a testament, not only to the quality of the Founders and their ability to craft a government conducive to ordered liberty, but also to the quality of the citizenry throughout much of that time. Sadly, the same cannot be said of those who govern us today. Neither can it be said of a majority of the governed. Whether a debauched citizenry is a reflection of a corrupted ruling class or the reverse matters not. Proper blame assignment does nothing to pierce the choking cloud of corrupted governance that belches from the halls of Congress like smoke from a factory chimney. A miasma of authoritarianism hangs over the country, little noticed by a population no longer fit to govern themselves. After all, if you are not doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about. So say the semi-literate future helots of the American Tyranny.

Scanning the horizon for the thunderheads of the coming storm holds no allure for a people content to look down at a machine rather than lift their eyes to the dangers that beset them. Gazing into the maw of the federal beast poised to devour whatever liberty remains to them is not an activity congruent with the oblivious nature of most Americans. Ignorance is, if not bliss, then at least a false contentment. Look not to the mass of the people to re-ignite the American experiment. They have relinquished that ability to the gods of convenience, physical and mental decay, and an unquenchable desire for bread and circuses.

 McCain as Metaphor

As much as I would rather not add to the avalanche of opprobrium directed at him on this and other similar sites, I suppose I must admit that what triggered this essay is the death of John McCain. I was at the hardware store when an overly gregarious fellow denizen of the fasteners isle felt compelled to inform me of McCain’s demise. Almost without thinking I barked, “Good!” Well, let’s just say the look of shock produced by my retort was nothing short of profound and, thankfully, cut short any further conversation.

I care not a whit for the life or death of John McCain, except insofar as he is an example of all that is wrong with the governance of this nation. Like so many of his fellow senatorial reptiles past and present, McCain held on to power like grim death. Too often, only death extinguishes the power lust and avarice of the elite. John McCain held on to his power and prerogatives until his brain literally rotted away. Though I use him as a convenient example of the festering rot in Washington D. C., he is not its only personification. He is merely one brush stroke in a much larger and more deeply disturbing picture. John McCain was not the problem. He was just one tentacle on the vampire squid that has draped itself over the nation. His passing may provide a fleeting moment of relief for many, but there are any number of political ghouls lining up to take his place.

McCain’s life was a microcosm of the corruption and decay about which I am writing today. He was a pampered, protected, and promoted scion of wealth, position, and privilege with little, if anything, in common with those he supposedly represented. In fact, there are likely not enough synonyms for the term “supposed” to define his existence. He was an alleged war hero who apparently suffered torture at the hands of his seeming enemies. A soi-disant political “maverick,” he putatively represented the regular folks and ostensibly stood strong against the orthodoxy of his own and the other party. Rumored to be a good bet to win the Presidency, he, thankfully, failed in the reputed attempt. John McCain was a so-called man who lived a purported life. That is the paradigm under which we are governed.

Re-elected repeatedly by the idiot voters of Arizona for reasons that they, likely, cannot cogently explain, McCain attached himself to the body politic like a tick on a hound. He engorged himself on the blood of the innocents slaughtered in every conflict he supported and fattened on the wealth of those who kept him in power. John McCain never met a war or a contribution he did not like or could not accept. In this, he was no different from his fellows. He had not even the personal integrity to resign in the face of his immanent death so that the people of Arizona could choose new “representation” rather than have it foisted upon them by the governor.

“Well, he was just one man,” you might say. Wake up to the fact that there are 534 more just like him sitting in authority over you this very day. Everything I have said about McCain can be said about the entire pantheon of pathetic poseurs that make up the federal power that is eating this nation alive. It is a living, breathing monstrosity and its hot, fetid breath is a sour wind sweeping across the land. John McCain was just one mouth-breathing denizen of that noisome bog on the Potomac. Do not doubt that there are many others, worse than he, slithering around the halls of power and their unblinking eyes are looking right at you and me.

Now, to further insult our intelligence, the talking heads bloviate about the “succession to the McCain seat” as if our legislators have become some sort of hereditary class. The very phrase resounds as a call to arms for every remaining patriot in the country. The time is long past to put an end to the self-aggrandizing neo-aristocracy under which we labor. Repulsive to the ears of any free man, such a statement has no place in the national conversation of a true Republic. But then, we reside no longer in a true Republic.

The slobbering minions of militarism and the sycophantic cheerleaders of authoritarian excess will now interminably fete him and he will be honored for his lifelong “service to the nation.” I would argue, however, that being a lifelong government drone (whether in the mailroom or the Senate) is no measure of success and integrity. It is, instead, the full measure of the failure and corruption of a life poorly lived. There are millions of such failures populating the bureaucracies, departments, and agencies of the federal leviathan. The 434 living members of Congress are simply the head of a very large snake. One dead Senator, more or less, makes no difference.

The Solution

The dumb mass of the people, in their complacency and ignorance, have seen fit to allow these frauds and sociopaths to continue in authority over, not only themselves, but over those of us who see the situation for what it really is. The time remaining to rectify the situation grows short. The nation will not be saved at the ballot box. The sooner that particular false hope is extirpated from the American mind, the better.

Restoration can only come now, if it can come at all, in the thrust of bayonet, the rattle of musketry and the roar of cannon. Such words may seem like so much flowery rhetoric in this pedestrian age, but the hard truth must be faced. We would do well to remember that bayonet, musket, and cannon midwifed American liberty. Only bayonet, musket, and cannon will restore it. The time for choosing sides is past. The lines are clearly drawn to anyone with eyes to see. The time for taking up arms draws near. When the fight begins is anyone’s guess, but it will come. Freedom or tyranny is the choice before us. Either all that is corrupt and corrosive of liberty will be rooted out and the nation will be reborn, or we will descend into an age of darkness the like of which the world has never seen. The Second American Revolution must come to pass. All other roads lead to slavery.

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Crawfisher
Crawfisher
August 27, 2018 7:56 pm

Link copied from NCRenegade.
I am not on Twitter…..clear the 2nd revolution has already started.

Ivan
Ivan
  Crawfisher
August 28, 2018 9:50 am

repeal the 17th amendment and get rid of the scum sucking leeches in the senate

Gator
Gator
  Ivan
August 28, 2018 1:59 pm

Ya few people realize the damage the 17th did. Senators used to be accountable to the state legislatures they represented, which more closely reflect the will of the people. They could be recalled and replaced for their failures. The 17th turned that on its head. The founders never intended for the direct election of senators. It’s clear they had the right idea, at least in that regard.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Gator
August 29, 2018 3:09 am

The Senators were actually supposed to be representatives of the State as laid out in the Constitution. Congressmen were supposed to represent the people. It gave a balance for the unknowledgeable to the knowledgeable at the time. Following the War Between this States, this was changed. They didn’t want southern states electing anyone to the Senate. The (rebellious) States were to have no more representation. Only the gullible people were allowed to vote, according to the wishes of their new conquerors. The State and states’ rights no longer mattered.

LibertyToad
LibertyToad
  Ivan
August 29, 2018 6:45 pm

The 17th was a joke. It totally changed the senate into something that was NEVER intended by the Founders. The America I grew up with is dying and it is very, very sad.

jaycee
jaycee
  Crawfisher
August 28, 2018 1:22 pm

They would not have lifted a finger if it were any other group than “BlueLivesMatter”.

ottomatik
ottomatik
August 27, 2018 8:30 pm

Information and thus narrative is the real war, and must be won, even if the conflict degenerates unto bayonet, musket, and cannon.
Narrative must be won or any percieved victory will be phyric at best.

Would the death of NoName be considered a Trump victory?

Rosendo Tabuni (EC)
Rosendo Tabuni (EC)
  ottomatik
August 28, 2018 2:06 pm

Pyrrhic

steve
steve
August 27, 2018 8:34 pm

I’ve lived a fortunate life. The standards I enjoyed were paid by men unknown to me many years before. I stand willing to pay my debt to those who came before and willing to support the deeds necessary today to ensure the life I enjoyed, will be had by those yet to come.

Inspiring writing, Xrugger

Stucky
Stucky
August 27, 2018 8:50 pm

REALLY great piece.

I hope it makes ZeroHedge, Rockwell, Quayle and other sites that pick up our stuff (except SLL).

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
  Stucky
August 28, 2018 9:06 am

+1 but hope it makes SLL also… Chip

Hermenejildo Jimenez(EC)
Hermenejildo Jimenez(EC)
  Stucky
August 28, 2018 12:11 pm

Stuck, I’m aware you have gone to the dark side. I’ve overcome a rash of euphoria myself. Allow me then to give a general critique: the article sounds like a creative writing assignment running amok. Not that I didn’t appreciate “dumb masses, immanent death, McCain’s life was a microcosm…”.

Danny John Coyle
Danny John Coyle
  Hermenejildo Jimenez(EC)
August 28, 2018 12:25 pm

imminent

Rosendo Tabuni (EC)
Rosendo Tabuni (EC)
  Danny John Coyle
August 28, 2018 1:54 pm

He wrote immanent which sounds right when speaking of death being within McCain. Get it now, DJ?

Maggie
Maggie
  Stucky
August 28, 2018 4:43 pm

Hey, Stuck. I hope it makes SLL too, but we just don’t need to hear about it.

Resurger
Resurger
  Stucky
August 29, 2018 6:17 pm

Fuck Zerohedge, it has become a cheap political news website. Take this from a guy who first joined back in 2009, it’s not the Tyler that we used to know. PS: I still go there to read the comments to get some laughs.

The Market Oracle . Uk is also is great website just like the TBP.

jamesthedeplorablewanderer
jamesthedeplorablewanderer
August 27, 2018 8:52 pm

McCain is gone, but while he was here he WAS part of the problem of poor governance.
Hopefully Arizona can atone for some of his sins by picking Dr. Kelli Ward or Sheriff Joe Arpaio to replace him. Either would be far more honest, capable and competent.

Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
August 27, 2018 8:52 pm

Nope.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
August 27, 2018 9:10 pm

Tim is right because the destructive demographic trend is as he describes; TPTB have raised interest rates seven time since Trump’s election to crash the economy, blame Trump and foster a Communist Revolution; the BRICS are working to devalue the dollar in retaliation for NeoCon Warmongering and Sanctions; the public schools, youth and FSA are not redeemable because of Socialism and Cultural Communism (hello Venezuela); and the GSM Little Ice Age will begin to freeze Useful Idiots and destroy food crops about the Fall of 2019; within a couple years, the SWHTW with sound and fury; Conservatives must fight like the Spanish Loyals, Nationals, Catholics, Businessmen and Farmers did 1936-39 if they want to survive.

Bot
Bot
  robert h siddell jr
August 27, 2018 9:58 pm

Excellent essay xrugger. I would agree that the situation this country and it’s inhabitants suffer with, whether they’re cognizant of it or not and I might add most are not, cannot be ameliorated by the ballot box.
That leaves only physical force and violence. And unless a substantial part of the military turns on their federal slave masters I can’t see how the nations private armed citizens can prevail without their participation. No more are we colonists armed with the same weaponry as our foes.
And the fact that this hardware advantage was acquired through the illegal theft of our hard earned dollars is the epitome of injustice.
Interesting times indeed…

Gator
Gator
  Bot
August 28, 2018 2:16 pm

Many people that the same things about the afghans and look how that’s turned out.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  robert h siddell jr
August 28, 2018 4:09 am

Agree with what you say. Funny you mention the freeze to come because the Farmer’s Almanac predicts a big freeze coming this winter.
https://www.farmersalmanac.com/weather-outlook/2019-winter-forecast

Grog
Grog
  Vixen Vic
August 28, 2018 1:45 pm

In other news:

Global-Warming Advocates Pressure Media to Silence Skeptics
By Wesley J. Smith
August 27, 2018 8:53 PM

Mike
Mike
  Grog
August 28, 2018 3:43 pm

Just love that censorship! You can immediately know who is weak and LYING and in terror of the truth smashing their (non)arguments. The Takers fear the makers, the parasite has to be constantly concerned about the opinions of the host. Kinda paraphrased from Molyneux.

This is biological life or death terror, not superficial politics.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Grog
August 29, 2018 3:19 am

Those global warming advocates haven’t realized it’s climate change now? That’s how they can cover both hot and cold weather. It’s all climate change. As if climate change hasn’t been happening since the beginning of time. As if climate isn’t affected by the sun, which they don’t take into consideration. When there’s cooling, global warming simply doesn’t fit the bill. These people all full of it. It was a all a failed tax scheme. When people are freezing their knees off, they’ll question the so-called science.

Mark
Mark
  Vixen Vic
August 28, 2018 11:58 pm

The next Grand Solar Minimum, Cosmic Rays and Earth Changes (an introduction)

The next Grand Solar Minimum, Cosmic Rays and Earth Changes (an introduction)

“Whenever the final drop takes place, during a Grand Solar Minimum, we expect more severe weather, erratic cloud formation, stronger winds, storms, hail, crop failure, but also droughts, earthquakes, and volcanos and in the long run, global cooling. We add to this: lightning, electric discharge events, meteors that can penetrate farther into the atmosphere (see Black Death and Abrupt Earth Changes in the 14th century, page 51), and the risk of solar flares that can disrupt our power grid due to our weakened shields, even though overall solar storms are less frequent.

In a cynical way, the proponents of the false dogma of anthropogenic climate change or “Global Warming” are predicting the same climate extremes as are expected in a Grand Solar Minimum – except the long-term cooling. But they attribute them to the wrong causes. And this might be the reason – other than sheer desperation – why the IPCC and Al Gore are still pondering the theory of anthropogenic global warming, even though there has not been any warming in 17 years. If the trends in cosmic ray flux continue, many of Al Gore’s gloomy predictions will come true (except the long-term warming) and the people on the fence on whether climate change is “real”, will quickly find out that it is real, but the fact that it will have nothing (or little) to do with human greenhouse gases will be disregarded by the panicking masses.

It is now well proven that temperature records have been falsified to create the illusion of runaway global warming. Nevertheless, I personally don’t find it worthwhile to ponder on each snowstorm as evidence that the globe is cooling instead of warming. Record storms are evidence that – first and foremost – climate variability is increasing. The actual drop in average temperature could be a relatively late concern in the progression of the next Grand Solar Minimum (see 3.1).

When we look at the correlation of solar activity and temperature, keep in mind that what disrupts civilizations, is foremost “bad weather” and crop failure rather than actual temperature. Even glaciation usually begins with erratic snow fall before a substantial drop in temperature sets in.

Thus far, solar cycle (24) is already the “Third weakest solar cycle since 1755 in terms of accumulated sunspot number anomalies from the mean value at this stage of the solar cycle.” It began in 2008, which puts us about nine years into the current cycle.
As we entered 2018, “no sunspots appeared from December 27, 2017 until January 4, 2018. As solar cycle 24 declines to a minimum over the next two years, we should see longer and more numerous periods of no sunspots. On January 4, the daily sunspot number was 13, indicating 3 sunspots in one sunspot group, although Spaceweather.com reported “no sunspots on that day.”

Fascinating article above stabbing a stake through the heart of the Dark Left’s political/control driven Carbon Tax Climate Change BS. Of course the climate changes…its called history…and there will be disruptions and preparations needed for the Grand Solar Minimum, but handing over ridicules carbon taxes and CONTROL to the Globalist tyrants should be resisted, denied, and if need be backed by the 2nd Amendment.

WARMING DENIERS UNITE! GRAND SOLAR MINIMUMERS buy wool clothing!

PS: The Sporting Goods/Hunter Clothing department of my local Walmart (Durham NC) has some wonderful wool sox’s, fleece Hot Hands gloves, heavy weight fleece thermals and heavy weight balaclavas at amazing low prices. Just saying….

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Mark
August 29, 2018 3:24 am

Mark, I would like to thank you for that write up. You are definitely aware of what’s going on. And your historical accuracy about the 14h century black death if accurate. Kudos.

Mark
Mark
  Vixen Vic
August 29, 2018 11:12 am

Thanks VV! I just read a lot using a common sense filter.

LibertyToad
LibertyToad
  Mark
August 29, 2018 6:48 pm

After I reviewed the leaked climate source code that came out a number of years back, I was convinced that it (global warming) was all bogus.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
August 27, 2018 9:44 pm

Tim..
The first long paragraph says it all.
Much as I dread the hardship ahead there is no peaceful way out and I have taken my lumps saying so. Especially from the Trumpium Hopium peddlers.
The last reasonable chance to right the ship was the mid 90’s and even then it would have been ugly. I will live long enough to have my parade but the under 60 crowd will bear the burden for decades.
I have been urging the younger tech savvy set to form cellphone Militias not just to communicate but to make mischief against TPTB.
We haven’t even started discussing what to replace this mess with. That’s not good news.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
  Fleabaggs
August 28, 2018 9:13 am

That first paragraph grabbed me hook, line, and sinker. This is one of THE VERY BEST articles on TBP I’ve ever read… Chip

Teleforo Urias Plata (EC)
Teleforo Urias Plata (EC)
  SmallerGovNow
August 28, 2018 3:47 pm

hook, line, and sinker
phrase of hook
1.
used to emphasize that someone has been completely deceived or tricked.
“he fell hook, line, and sinker for this year’s April Fool joke”

MadMike
MadMike
August 27, 2018 9:51 pm

Tim called it exactly when describing our government, and the rot is the same, right down to the city councils.
Here is an old saying the French got correct:
“Constitutions are made of paper; Bayonets are made of steel.”

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
August 27, 2018 9:55 pm

While my own basement floor is largely obscured, I would really like to try the method provided under Article V before firing on Fort Sumter. The Founders felt Article V might become a regular feature of national housekeeping, yet it has never been invoked. It would be a crime against the people of this Republic not to give it a try before resorting to the gravest extreme.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
  Harrington Richardson
August 28, 2018 9:16 am

I would suggest you read Article V very carefully. It leaves the decision of how it’s done up to the congress. The states really have no power. Bill Still had an excellent video explaining this on his site recently. You should check it out. Succession of various states might be the only peaceful way out… Chip

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
  SmallerGovNow
August 28, 2018 10:44 am

At the end of the day, a super-majority of states would have to ratify any new amendment, that’s the key, so worst case scenario that doesn’t happen.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  SmallerGovNow
August 29, 2018 4:24 am

Great comment Smaller. I’ve said this before.

Uncola
Uncola
August 27, 2018 10:22 pm

X,

A poetically eloquent Call to Arms that is, again, eerily reminiscent of the exhortations of Thomas Payne.

I devour your words and enthusiasm wells up within me, to the point I am near out my front door armed to the hilt and in full battle dress. Except, where to report? Where are the modern-day muster fields?

Of course, there are none because, as you have effectively stated, we are in our own time.

In your opening paragraph, you aptly described three premises. Immediately, I was thinking “three strikes and we’re out”.

Now, I have three questions given those premises:

1.) Could we win and, thus, save the nation?

2.) If not, what would we be fighting for?

3.) And, if we did win, what form of government would be installed?

Your following points were made very eloquently:

Proper blame assignment does nothing to pierce the choking cloud of corrupted governance that belches from the halls of Congress like smoke from a factory chimney. A miasma of authoritarianism hangs over the country, little noticed by a population no longer fit to govern themselves.

We know who to blame, but that, in and of itself, is impotent. And, there can be no liberty when the majority is not worthy of it.

Perhaps it is not yet time to fight. Maybe a bunch of debt slaves have to die first.

Or maybe the time to strike is now or never.

Or perhaps it’s too late.

In any event: Destiny awaits, and we must choose or it will drag us.

Thank you for the thought-provoking, and beautifully written, piece.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Uncola
August 27, 2018 10:39 pm

Doug..
What to replace it with is my great worry. Seems impossible to get any discussion going on any site I’ve been on. The past would indicate something as bad or worse filling the void. I don’t kid myself about being around much beyond the beginning of the collapse but I have nieces and nephews who will but they refuse to discuss it.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Fleabaggs
August 29, 2018 6:50 pm

Flea – thre arlready exiss the perfect relacement. It is called the Constitution, plus the Bill of Rights. What we need is a wrking govt that follows those. What we have was never envisioned nor intended.

What we get is unknowable. Look at the Arab Spring for Exhibit A. They tossed out some despots, but had no other plan. What they got was not necessarily better than what they had, likely worse.

Do you think Iraq was better off under Saddam, or is it better off now? I suspect many Iraqis long for the stability of the past.

Freedom comes at a heavy price, and a great many do not want it, much less even know what it is.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Llpoh
August 29, 2018 10:37 pm

Llpoh…
Your putting words in my mouth. I didn’t say or imply any of that. I said there is no discussion going on.
Let’s talk about the Constitution. Do we go back to the original or keep the shitty amendments. You aren’t going to be here anyway.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Fleabaggs
August 29, 2018 11:14 pm

Flea – I merely commented. I did not put anything into your mouth – a relief for both of us, I am sure.

I merely ( with a lot of spelling errors I see) made a comment, and asked a rhetorical question, not necessarily intended just for you.

My point is that there is nothing being proposed to replace what currently is, and that the best replacement is to revert back to the original Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Re not being there, well, I still have an opinion. You would not deprive me of that, now would you? These issues span the globe and are not unique to the US, you know.

Maggie
Maggie
  xrugger
August 27, 2018 11:55 pm

How about the pavilion down at the bridge over Hogg Creek next Thursday at 6. LGR will bring the beer.

Uncola
Uncola
  Maggie
August 28, 2018 12:28 am

Aye, Martha, I am besmitton by your fustilarian gallimaufry. Har, har!

In me comment up nigh, I see misspelled Payne for Paine. And now I await some gillie-wet-foot fopdoodle to gnashgab like some muck-spouted lubberwort.

Oh, crimey. For any snoutbanded stampcrabs, I may be reached on me blog. But beware the skelpie-limmers and loiter-sacks. Even these very trees have ears in this woeful day.

Maggie
Maggie
  Uncola
August 28, 2018 12:31 am

Laughed. That hurts my stomach wound. Ouch.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  xrugger
August 28, 2018 12:17 am

Tim.
Count me in. We will have to factor in 4 time zones to have it.

RiNS
RiNS
  Fleabaggs
August 28, 2018 1:52 pm

Actually it would be 5, six if you count Newfounland.. but who really counting anyways..

oh yeah me..Anyhoo

It should be done sometime. Really. I’d have to lie about reasons crossing the border but still would be worth it…. New York is likely too big and too expensive. Needs to be bit moar central. Like Omaha or something. It’d be great…..

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  RiNS
August 29, 2018 10:20 am

Omaha is not a bad idea, RiNS. It’s a fairly safe city. Probably not very expensive. I haven’t been there for years so I can’t tell you much more about it.

You can’t get much more central than Kansas City or St. Louis. St. Louis has more direct flights if someone is flying, which I hate to do and prefer to drive. Both cities can be quite dangerous if you don’t know where your going.

Oklahoma City or Tulsa are also not too bad, as far as I know. Maggie is much more informed about OKC.

Maggie
Maggie
  Mary Christine
August 29, 2018 8:28 pm

Very informed. 30 + years of my adult life there. OKC is the biggest little town I ever saw.

Not Sure
Not Sure
  xrugger
August 28, 2018 8:14 am

Honored to be mentioned. But my mil experience is limited to operations, not much to add except my enthusiasm and my preps. Be glad to down some brews in the land of 10,000 lakes with some like minded deplorables.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
  Not Sure
August 28, 2018 9:26 am

The problem is logistics. We’re all over the place. I’m in South Texas… Chip

Teleforo Urias Plata (EC)
Teleforo Urias Plata (EC)
  SmallerGovNow
August 28, 2018 3:51 pm
Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  SmallerGovNow
August 29, 2018 3:28 am

You’re in Texas, I’m in South Carolina, others are all over the place. Hard to hook up and talk except here.

RS
RS
  Vixen Vic
August 29, 2018 2:24 pm

Gmail drafts. Oh, wait a minute…

Teleforo Urias Plata (EC)
Teleforo Urias Plata (EC)
  xrugger
August 28, 2018 3:50 pm

Terrible idea, it’ll never work. Unless you have strippers and goats. Throw in something wild also just to spice things up. Oh, and calling the cops on your subversives party is a stroke of genius (or madness).

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Teleforo Urias Plata (EC)
August 29, 2018 3:31 am

Regardless, someone here will be FBI. Think about that. You dojn’t think they’re a regular commentator? Think again. They’re probably the most militant.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Vixen Vic
August 29, 2018 10:21 am

No doubt, VV.

Maggie
Maggie
  Mary Christine
August 29, 2018 10:34 am

MC… will you do me a favor and comment on the Tower of Babble posting. I’m going to try to get in contact with Ann today, if my son can figure out why my email server is not “sending” or “receiving”… if necessary, I will send it on HIS turbo computer, which means he will figure out what I’ve done to prevent Mom germs.

Maggie
Maggie
  Maggie
August 29, 2018 8:31 pm

He fixed it in like 8 seconds, told me to leave something alone and left for Maryland. It is good for him to be away while I recuperate. Nick says I’m bitchy.

I am making great strides in organizing some of my handwritten notes I’ve been forced to use to try and record some of my ideas. At least half were trash.

Must have been the delirium.

Celestino Flores Amezcua (EC)
Celestino Flores Amezcua (EC)
  Maggie
August 29, 2018 9:59 pm

“Nick says I’m bitchy.”

Poor Nick.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Maggie
August 30, 2018 1:07 am

LOL.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  xrugger
August 29, 2018 10:46 pm

My husband just offered our place for a get together. I said “Do you know what you are getting us into?” He is a generous man. The kind you want on your side. I think maybe he might have had too many Rye whiskeys this evening but I will double check. We are centrally located and it is peaceful but the nearest motel is 20 minutes.

Maggie
Maggie
  Mary Christine
August 29, 2018 10:48 pm

I sent you an email.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
August 27, 2018 10:28 pm

Miasma..I like that word. It sounds like a drink. What would you put in it?

“…. will almost certainly lead to some level of societal breakdown and the ensuing chaos and violence will result in the destruction of a large part of the current population.”
Yes..yes it will…me, most likely, will be included in that destruction. I will feed and clothe the rebels the best that I can in honor of the women who died in the prison collapse. However we will have to work around 5G. Because that’s what it is for, controlling the population..just sayin.

Very colorful word combinations in your essay, Xrugger. Write more, it’s been a while.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Mary Christine
August 28, 2018 9:25 am

Mary Christine, “Miasma” sounds like a drink because you’re probably thinking of Mimosas. Here’s a link for Mimosa recipes.
https://www.delish.com/cooking/recipe-ideas/g2720/mimosa-recipes/

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Vixen Vic
August 28, 2018 12:16 pm

Actually, VV, you are correct. I did connect it with Mimosa’s, a perfectly delightful drink on a hot day or anytime. I was thinking about ingredients for miasma, such as: 1/2 shot of willful blindness, a shot of mental laziness, mix with generous amounts of MSM tea.

When do you sleep? You keep the weirdest hours.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Mary Christine
August 28, 2018 3:52 pm

LOL. Good one.
I sleep whenever I get the chance. 🙂 If I have to work late, it’s late when I get to read what I want. If I have to work early, I’m up early and can post sometimes. If not, I sleep in. Just depends on the day’s work schedule and the next day’s schedule.

Not Sure
Not Sure
August 27, 2018 11:00 pm

I have been made aware of the problems the terminal condition of our republic and do wonder if we find ourselves waiting too long, we will relive Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s words of “why did we not strike when we could have stopped the madness while they were yet weak?”
But I wonder who would survive the initial call to arms, before a few well placed “patriots” would suddenly appear to rally the troops? Only to turn States evidence as informants a week later and cast the whole group into prison.
With this reality, I do not think there will be much of a coordinated effort to save the republic, with the time for rising up being limited to protecting your home or neighborhood, after the chaos sets in.
OBTW, your article speaks volumes of where we are at with great passion. I feel many are of the same mind, but with no General Patton to lay out the plan of where do we go from here, we end up watching and waiting for a sign of one or two lanterns from the church steeple, that never materializes.
Molon Labe.

Maggie
Maggie
  Not Sure
August 27, 2018 11:57 pm

You have become my “go to” to decide if articles are “Circadia” worthy. I thought you were MC…. LOL, you’ll do. You made a strong comment.

Bookmarked to read later X

M C
M C
  Maggie
August 28, 2018 12:14 am

There’s no typo in my comment. Grammar..well not so good. I’m just gonna have a monkey type for me.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
  Not Sure
August 28, 2018 9:30 am

Not Sure, your name says it all. But Molon Labe indeed… Chip

Edit: Meaning when TSHF we individual patriots each go down on our own…

Not Sure
Not Sure
  SmallerGovNow
August 28, 2018 10:45 am

Not Sure is not a description of lack of will, but the main characters name from the movie “Idiocracy.”
Had a comment about “going down alone” still better than “on each other,” but these are serious times and no time for humor.

Rdawg
Rdawg
August 27, 2018 11:06 pm

Nice essay.

Isle–>aisle, though.

nkit
nkit
  Rdawg
August 27, 2018 11:38 pm

I was in the bookstore the other night, standing in the aisle of right…felt good…

22winmag - Hug a Nazi, punch a Socialist!
22winmag - Hug a Nazi, punch a Socialist!
  xrugger
August 28, 2018 6:29 am

Proofreading and editing is best done by proofreaders and editors, not authors.

Nice piece.

Maggie
Maggie

Yes! And when you have an excellent editor and they clean up your prose, just thank them kindly and don’t say “you changed the whole meaning by correcting my grammar.”

Idiot writers.

Maggie
Maggie
  Maggie
August 28, 2018 7:37 pm

There are a dozen authors out there who wanted to thumb me down and didn’t, fearing I just MIGHT have edited their stuff at some point.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic

I wish I had that luxury. What I type I have to proofread also. But not on here. LOL. It would be like work. I come here to escape that, to a point.

Maggie
Maggie
  Vixen Vic
August 29, 2018 8:35 pm

I was a technical writer/editor for a couple of large gubmint contractors. It became all about formatting, spacing, punctuation and grammar.

No one seemed to give a shit about content. Not us and not the government. But let that margin spacing go awry and the whole training package might be rejected. That is hard on a tech writer who doesn’t understand that it is all just for show.

That’s what MIC public/private partnership got us… a room full of idiots measuring margin spacing.

That was Algore reinventing government shit, btw.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Maggie
August 30, 2018 1:09 am

I hear you, Maggie.

22winmag - Hug a Nazi, punch a Socialist!
22winmag - Hug a Nazi, punch a Socialist!
August 27, 2018 11:10 pm

The South was Right!

Secession not Revolution.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic

I like the idea of secession better.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  xrugger
August 28, 2018 10:24 am

I’ll look forward to reading it.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Vixen Vic
August 29, 2018 3:43 am

xrugger, what impact would federal payments such as Social Security have on secession? That is one of my biggest things against succession being accepted by a majority I would be willing to forgo Social Security. Do you think my mother would? I doubt it. That is one thing that keeps this government in tact.

PlatoPlubius
PlatoPlubius
  xrugger
August 28, 2018 11:17 am

Xrugger,

I think your point about the “necessity to identify ” with one’s state cannot be overstated.

I have lived in “commie” California near all my life and identify as Californian , although both sides of my family have roots in Oakie ism…
I’m also proud of our roots! Hardcore, never give up, started with nothing and made something through hard work and no excuses.

So, I don’t hate on all you backwoods Southies or upstate yuppies (hahaha), but a good razzing is not outta the question.

I think California is ready for some sorta break up or secession attempt from the U.S. …unfortunately from what i see and feel, it seems manufactured and co opted already to gain no one except for the same type of blovating den of vipers your article so eloquently detailed that have taken up residence and built their nests in our halls of government at ALL LEVELS.

Just imagine if a small group like the Bundys did something like that again, I wonder what the response would be this time?

Tony
Tony
  PlatoPlubius
August 28, 2018 12:40 pm

“I think California is ready for some sorta break up or secession attempt from the U.S. …unfortunately from what i see and feel, it seems manufactured and co opted already…”

With Jerry Moonbeam and Eric “gun runner’ Holder running things it can’t end well for California.

Mike
Mike
  xrugger
August 28, 2018 2:29 pm

Don’t you think the ruling hierarchy of any of the 50 States is nothing but a gang of co-conspirators with their own subdivision of the USDC big.guv+big.biz fascist empire? And that even a steady trickle of state funerals will not kill the narrative and biz arrangements made around it? And that any remnant without a unified narrative like: “If you have good people you don’t need a guv; if bad people you can’t have a guv“; will do nothing except regurgitate the same problem on a lower level? Dark ages here we come.

Maggie
Maggie
  xrugger
August 29, 2018 8:35 pm

Greatly enjoyed this one, X. Very well written.

Maggie
Maggie
August 28, 2018 12:08 am

X, I shared it with my 12 hillbilly friends a midpoint. Excellent.

A thoughtful essay which should help inspire a national discussion of the hideous state of our nation and the despicable Congress Critters who infest the Potomac.

Should. Probably Won’t.

M C
M C
August 28, 2018 12:19 am

Can there be any freedom in a high tech age?

Maggie
Maggie
  M C
August 28, 2018 12:33 am

You are a last worder too, aren’t you? See? Am sure we should meet. Be at Hogg Creek pavilion Thursday at 5. We’ll chat before the others show up.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Maggie
August 28, 2018 12:25 pm

Last worder sometimes, not always. I’ll be there.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  M C
August 28, 2018 1:32 am

Mary C.
Hence the cellphone Militias.
Do you remember the group of hackers who brought down an airliner with their cellphones. I think it was an airliner. Unless “They” are going to crash their own infastructure and use pigeons they can be defeated by way of the digital world being to complex to stop it.
Me, I’m lucky to be able to text this note. Small cells of 3 to 5 people are hard to infiltrate.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Fleabaggs
August 28, 2018 12:24 pm

If the Afghans can hold us off for..what..17 years now, I suppose it could be done. I feel the need to redeem myself, being a boomer, even though I didn’t choose when to be born. I hate to leave such a messed up country to my grandkids.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Mary Christine
August 29, 2018 3:46 am

We may be the generations that starts things off with our offspring finishing it, just like the founders. That’s something to think about. Teach your children well.

PlatoPlubius
PlatoPlubius
  M C
August 28, 2018 11:22 am

The virtual prison grid continues unabashed doesn’t it?

Everyone freaks out when they misplace their personal tracking, eavesdropping devices, and anyone who suggests the data mining features of the sheoples downloaded smart phone apps, is just being overly paranoid,
After all, they say, I don’t have anything to hide, I’m not doing anything wrong..

My hope lies in the seeds I’ve sown for when the dark clouds and raging storms hit, that those seeds will grow to bear fruits of love, and compassion
Not hate and doom.

Ten Year Lurker
Ten Year Lurker
August 28, 2018 1:40 am

Great essay, I’ll be reading this one several times.

There’s so much to consider about the future of this country that it sometimes gives me a splitting headache.

I think the thing that irks me the most though is the all the corruption. Sure, it’s been part of the human experience as long as there have been humans but it’s just gotten so fucking blatant…..I struggle to pay bills and don’t have health insurance while cocksuckers like Strzok and Cohen get hundreds of thousands sent to them on a Go Fund Me page. A sleaze bag like Harry Reid rolls into D.C. driving a beat up station wagon with $74 in his pocket and rolls out 35 years later worth over $100,000,000??? John McCain, anyone?

Whatever happens I hope it happens soon because I’m tired of waiting. I’m as prepared as I’m going to get and am still young enough to endure a years long fight if necessary. I just hope and pray that when we finally get to our 4th Turning Climax, most of the government leeches and parasites get their comeuppance. Then maybe we can figure out what to replace the current system with because until then it’s probably a moot point.

Llpoh
Llpoh
August 28, 2018 2:17 am

I have said before, and do so here again: I will not join a call to arms. As the author says, the majority are supportive of the current system. Who am I to deny them their choice. Poor as it is. I will spend my days avoiding the masses who walk a path that will lead to misfortune and destruction, and warning those I can of the chaos to come.

The opportunities for those who remain awake will be legion. But the pain en total will be incalculable. I can only hope that I have prepared my children such that they seize the opportunities and thrive. As for the rest, I hold little hope.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
  Llpoh
August 28, 2018 3:18 am

That’s right. This is Brazil 2. The people (not the people who read this site) like their captivity. Much like Golden Retrievers, if you unleashed them they would just stand there staring at you with a toy in mouth. It’s best to just live a good life.

What I worry about more than the government is the murder and thievery that will ensue when the milk runs dry. People think that it can’t run dry in our lifetime, that new dollars can just be created ad infinitum and put on a WIC card the next day. That works today and tomorrow, but the system remains insolvent. A dependent, entitled society will lash out. Half these people are on psyche meds, wait ’till those wear off too. We’ll be knee deep in thieves long before any so called revolution happens. And I agree with a poster above, Article V is the way to go.

I’m going to sit in my house with shotgun across lap. Maybe get those security shutters if it gets too bad.

PlatoPlubius
PlatoPlubius
  JR Wirth
August 28, 2018 11:28 am

JR Worth,

Funny you should mention sitting at home with your shotgun in lap…

2 years ago I worked with this guy who recently got outta the Army…
He told me a little about his job, he said, ” You know Snowden? That’s what I did for the Army, track down whistleblowers or people who might try and whistleblower”.. Me and him talked about things mentioned on this site all the time and he basically said what you did,
“If the average American knew half the shit I did, they would be barricaded inside their homes with shotguns ready!”

Scary thing is I believe him when he said it.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Llpoh
August 28, 2018 4:23 am

I just hope things can be done peaceably. The idea of revolution in this country is entirely unsettling. The government has the big guns, including automatic weapons, not to mention all the planes and bombs, and the people are left with semis. It’s horrible to contemplate. However, if it comes, I’ll try my best to protest my family and friends and all we have.
Just as a note, even in a group of five, more than likely, one in five is a federal agent. Just saying. They know everything you say and do online and on the phone. And if you have a smart TV, in your house as well.

22winmag - Hug a Nazi, punch a Socialist!
22winmag - Hug a Nazi, punch a Socialist!
  Vixen Vic
August 28, 2018 6:24 am

Insurgencies don’t depend on firepower or advanced weaponry. They depend on the cumulative will of the individual insurgents.

It’s easy to stop planes and tanks- just shoot the mechanics or burn down the spare parts warehouse.

You’re right about the 1 in 5 thing. In a serious shtf sitution, there will be more spies and sellouts than your can shake a stick at.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson

Does anyone else recall the true story about a militia meeting maybe twenty years ago? I do not recall the minute details but there was a meeting and guys were making inflammatory speeches calling for armed violence. A couple of days later warrants were issued for the guys demanding armed violence. All of the people named were government agent provocateurs. The FBI guy did not know the state police guy who did not know another guy and they had all gone back thinking they had found a terrorist den except they were the terrorists. LOL!

Maggie
Maggie
  Harrington Richardson
August 28, 2018 7:33 pm

Typical government fuckup.

22winmag - Hug a Nazi, punch a Socialist!
22winmag - Hug a Nazi, punch a Socialist!
August 28, 2018 6:36 am

Russia survived the Soviet Union, easily one of the most horrific shitshow governments of all time.

America can survive the Jewknighted States of America, easily one of the most horrific shitshow governments of all time.

Mike
Mike

22 – Great username text! 🙂 Hug a National Socialist, punch a plain ordinary Socialist. ROFLMAO.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 28, 2018 8:09 am

Corrupt money corrupts every thing.

Hollow man
Hollow man
August 28, 2018 8:39 am

Nice to see that I am not the only one with this view.

Gerold
Gerold
August 28, 2018 8:44 am

Inspiring essay, xrugger!

How fitting that brain cancer would take Insane McCain.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
August 28, 2018 9:36 am

Great essay, great comments all. THIS is TBP and why I come here… Chip

KaD
KaD
August 28, 2018 10:00 am

Ontario has passed a totalitarian bill that allows the state to take kids from Christian homes that oppose the LGBTQI agenda as well as gender ideologies put forward by the state. The bill also effectively bans couples who disagree with that agenda from fostering or adopting children. Bill 89 (the Supporting Children, Youth and Families Act of 2017) repeals and replaces the form Child and Family Services Act that governs child protective services, adoptions and foster care services. The bill adds “gender identity” and “gender expression” as factors to be considered. At the same time, the bill deletes the religious faith in which the parents are raising the child as a factor and mandates that only the child’s own “creed” or “religion” be considered when assessing the best interests of the child. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-ontario-passes-totalitarian-bill-allowing-govt-to-take-kids-from-c

Mike
Mike
  KaD
August 28, 2018 3:57 pm

Keeping in mind that the Queen owns her subjects and treats them like the cattle they are…

TJF
TJF
August 28, 2018 10:37 am

Very good article. As usual though, I am left without a clear plan for the future other than to wait for whatever comes to get here.

My dream is for peaceful succession and to have the USA simply dissolve into nothingness and all the debt owed to disappear. If I could only come up with some plausible scenario where that happened I would be more optimistic for the future.

PlatoPlubius
PlatoPlubius
  TJF
August 28, 2018 11:31 am

Uncertain times are the breeding grounds for dictators and despots

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  PlatoPlubius
August 29, 2018 4:35 am

So true, plato.

Taxation is Theft
Taxation is Theft
August 28, 2018 10:46 am

It’s been almost 55 years since JFK was assassinated. Look at how much of the reports from that day remain redacted after the “swamp drainer” took office. We can’t even get a little bit of truth from the rulers over half a century after the fact. It’s going to have to get a LOT worse before you can expect some significant change. Protesting is useless and undignified–typically the sport of the unemployed. Voting is the slaves’ suggestion box. There are meaningful ways to change your own life and those of your kin first and that’s where I choose to spend my efforts. Politics is just super-cringy entertainment at this point. Most of the population is never going to understand that generational turning is happening, but like the old saying goes, there is no such thing as being “a little bit pregnant”. The die is cast. Live your life and prepare for the day. “Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freedom. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.” ~Etienne de LA Boetie

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
August 28, 2018 11:08 am

We have to look at the broader sweep of history, what changed in this country around 1913? It was the beginning of the end for detaching us from hard money. Once the paper standard was completely in place in 1971, there was no check on the debt issuance and hence, government had unlimited authority over the supply of money.

If government could only operate on hard money it would have to contract by 50, 60 or even 70%.

The ENTIRE 20th century was a slow motion constriction of the freedoms of the American people. We only look at the last 20 years with clarity. But by the 1930’s it was already gone, Americans just didn’t know it yet.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 28, 2018 11:30 am

I’m surprised by the lack of optimism with respect to repealing state income tax deduction s.

With the new Supreme Court nominee the only question that matters is how the prior tax code could be Constitution all?

A person making 500,000 dollars a year in California will be paying the same amount of money forevermore.

Edwin
Edwin
August 28, 2018 12:44 pm

The last time we could have righted this ship was long ago.
1913

TampaRed
TampaRed
August 28, 2018 12:56 pm

good article tim,thanks for taking the time to write it–

ge
ge
August 28, 2018 2:13 pm

Time to stand down on the thesaurus, too.

Rosendo Tabuni (EC)
Rosendo Tabuni (EC)
August 28, 2018 2:28 pm
BUCKHED
BUCKHED
August 28, 2018 2:49 pm

Jefferson said that the Tree Of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time. I see that coming to pass in the not to distant future. I wish it weren’t so but with the Left growing by leaps and bounds with a young base who want what they haven’t earned I see no other course of action.

If it does come to pass let’s hope it is swift and that the side of freedom prevails….otherwise it will be years of dark times in the USA .

Buy more ammo.

RiNS
RiNS
August 28, 2018 3:26 pm

Xrugger I hope your wrong because waxing yer cock about some sort of zombie apocalypse isn’t something I want to focus energy on. Better to look on the bright side of life. Yeah this piece of shit might be getting real very soon. Still I don’t think it will get to point where it is Walking Dead type situation. Lets’ hope anyways..

A downturn for sure but it should be viewed as an opportunity. That is how capitalism should work. The smart ones will be there to pick up the pieces..The only thing that can be done now is prepare by minimizing debt and finding a relatively safe place to live. That’s all..

And it helps to believe in a Lord.
Just make sure you are on the right team.
Its never too late…
And here’s a hint.
So I’m Praying for you
Cuz I am really that nice a guy
and of course you’re welcome

Yours in Odin,

RiNS

Maggie
Maggie
August 28, 2018 4:42 pm

People are desperate for truth. Not many of them, but the ones looking seem to find their way here.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
August 28, 2018 7:18 pm

When Xrugger suggested discussing options I thought he had a chat room type of meeting in mind.

Maggie
Maggie
  Fleabaggs
August 28, 2018 7:31 pm

Hogg Creek pavilion, Thursday at 6. 🙂

Maggie
Maggie
  xrugger
August 29, 2018 8:40 pm

Missouri Ozarks. Tucked into a little corner between the Castor and the St. Francis rivers, where they gather and merge with thousands of tributaries in the spring to supply some of the most fertile alluvial farmland known to man with fresh water for beans, corn, wheat and rice.

In the spring the flash floods are awesome to watch from up here on this hill of mine.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  xrugger
August 28, 2018 10:57 pm

Tim…
I have to get south soon so can’t meet in person.
I’m not tech savvy enough to set up a chat room either.
Even succession would require force and violence but discussing the pros and cons of the options available couldn’t hurt. Even country wide nullification county by county might be less harmful than what we’ll get by waiting for Joe or Sally to do it.

Maggie
Maggie
August 28, 2018 7:35 pm

Well, lookeeeeeeee here. 100

Maggie
Maggie
  Maggie
August 28, 2018 8:12 pm

MC? Did you see? I inserted a big ole typooooooo just for you!

monger
monger
August 28, 2018 7:47 pm

While I agree with the sentiments of this article, I still exclude Rand Paul, and only count 533. One good man left, can our demise be any closer ?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
August 28, 2018 7:53 pm

“Either all that is corrupt and corrosive of liberty will be rooted out and the nation will be reborn, or we will descend into an age of darkness the like of which the world has never seen.”

As much as many can not stand to hear it, the only way forward is with Biblical understanding of the situation at hand. There are clear answers available if only the will existed to examine them. Christ gave Paul the answers in 13 short epistles.

Gal 5:1… “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.”

It involves learning who/what we are. Learning what Christ did about it. Governing oneself accordingly. With increasing grace toward others.

Place your bets…

Come what may, I ain’t getting any younger.

BB
BB
  grace country pastor
August 28, 2018 9:01 pm

Pastor ,you are right but Christianity has been so corrupted that I don’t even mention the Scriptures anymore. Most people just look at me like I’m crazy . This government and the courts have made a decision to completely reject the biblical faith upon which our republic was founded and this has had a profound effect on our collective minds.
Slugger ,you are right. It’s over . Only bloodshed and violence ahead of our country now . Maybe some sort of succession can take place but with so many depending on government even that is unlikely . I guess it will depend on the National Guard units ,the police and military. If they fail to protect the Constitution then they will not protect us from hard core Fascism.
One other thing is the millions immigrants from third world shitholes that have no loyalty to us ( white people ) or our founding documents. They will turn on us with encouragement from the traitors who own the media. I see only pain , misery and suffering ahead . It’s hard to be positive at this late stage.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  BB
August 28, 2018 10:19 pm

All actual Christianity has to go on is the scriptures BB. Sharpen your understanding of the sword and wield with confidence. I see you go places few dare and I personally greatly appreciate it!

“I see only pain, misery and suffering ahead. It’s hard to be positive at this late stage.”

True enough for what takes place on the macro scale here. There is still much to be positive about however. Have you seen the gospel of Christ light up someone’s eyes for the first time? Does not happen often but when it does… wow!

I’ll leave you with:

Col 3:1-3 KJV… “If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.“

We’re dead and risen already!

Gal 2:20 KJV… “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.”

peace

Anonymous
Anonymous
  grace country pastor
August 29, 2018 2:05 pm

‘I see you go places few dare and I personally greatly appreciate it!’

you both do, and I greatly appreciate it!

No Dow over 18000 - MC
No Dow over 18000 - MC
August 28, 2018 10:13 pm

One must be very careful about making predictions…

BB
BB
  No Dow over 18000 - MC
August 29, 2018 3:47 am

Pastor , Jesus Christ is our only hope but so many have turned away to follow other gods.The Lord doesn’t need America . God’s judgement is already upon this once great nation and It will be very difficult time of tribulation for all of us . You are right. I should be more positive. It’s just hard watching our nation self destruct . Thanks for the music . I need to be constantly reminded of my position in Christ and His Gospel .God Bless and Goodnight.

not sure
not sure
  BB
August 29, 2018 8:03 am

I am so pleased that the tail of these posts present the real hope we have as Christians in Christ Jesus! I believe that with this hope, the darkness that is rapidly descending is only a temporary thing and is the darkness before the coming of the eternal light that is our hope of glory.
I know others have a different view who post here and I respect their understanding of what lies beyond, but that does not mean that I must hide my own beliefs; no, I must declare my faith and my hope, for this is truly what we are here for.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  not sure
August 29, 2018 9:51 am

Amen and amen. You sound pretty sure to me… 🙂

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  BB
August 29, 2018 10:30 am

BB, I hope you get to see this because I believe these are the most encouraging words I can possibly share with another brother. Believe me, we all, every one of us, need to be constantly reminded of our positions in Christ. We are to “study to shew ourselves approved as workmen… (2 Tim 2:15)”. It’s why God gave us His completed Word.

You write… “God’s judgement is already upon this once great nation and It will be very difficult time of tribulation for all of us .”

Here is the key. God’s judgement is NOT upon this or any other nation in this dispensation of grace. It is why the world is falling apart as quickly as it has been. Sin and thus tribulation abounds! Such is abundantly clear even to the unbeliever.

What is Gods response to such, today?

Rom 5:20… “Moreover the law entered, that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

Abounding grace!

The opportunity to come to Him by way of Jesus Christ and be freed from sins penalty (not yet its presence). God certainly will judge and destroy His enemies at some future time, but today He works according to the gospel committed unto the Apostle Paul. Paul opens his every epistle with some form of the words; “grace and peace from God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ”. Such is not some “churchy” greeting… it is an official proclamation from God to man! To Titus Paul writes:

Titus 1:1-4… “Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God’s elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour; To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.”

(To preempt the thought that we are free from sin that we may go out into the world and sin all we want, which usually follows what I just said, please read Romans 6 in your King James Bible.)

Shortly after the cross there was a change in the way in which God deals with man (not the first time either). Daniel’s 70 weeks were interrupted at week 69. That final week, which should have come in mid-Acts (what was Peter preaching in Acts 2, 3, 4…? The fulfillment of prophesy!), didn’t. Out of nowhere, in order to utterly destroy satan’s hold on both the earth AND the heaven, God called Paul, put a temporary hold on Israel’s elevated position, and offers free grace to all men everywhere without Israels intervention as Gods chosen people!

If that’s not a resounding call for optimism, I don’t know what is… 🙂

This is just the story’s beginning. Learning what the risen and glorified Lord Christ told Paul (whom “Christianity” all but ignores) is the true meat and potatoes of Bible understanding.

grace and peace BB…

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
August 29, 2018 7:36 am

The workings of what was our government has been on the slippery slope to tyranny since 1913 and nothing we as citizens can do to change it now . Slavery you say is our next stop , we are already there ! The moves of the circle jerk of Wall Street to K-Street to Capitol Street has firmly entrenched a financial olhagarchy of crony capitalist . This has made all of us in the great unwashed indentured servants kept in line by corrupt badge wearing minions that serve the system of government that supports them by fleecing us at every juncture !
The thought of armed conflict with the leviathan is horrifying indeed but in the course of human history there comes a time where good men Free born and of good report must step up to the challenge at hand regardless of the personal cost . It may come to armed conflict , remember when you attempt to kill the king you cannot miss ! Be sure you have the right target !
Forget Me Not

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
August 29, 2018 9:33 am

The slow but exceedingly effective infiltration of our institutions by Marxist subversives and the accompanying Democratic plan to erase the core population of America by importing a flood of foreign paupers has made the conflict described in the article inevitable. May as well accept it and prepare as best we can. Trump can stave off the flash point for a few years or he can create it. My personal view is that it is much better for this to come to a head while he holds executive power and give legal authority to those forces who may – may – take the country back from the Marxists. It will not be brief and it will be bloody. There will be no forgiveness or reconciliation. When the dust settles one side or the other will run the other out of this country forever. In the first civil war even the most wild-eyed of both sides had to acknowledge that the other side had solid, legitimate arguments for their point of view. Not this time. Our enemies do not belong here, period. Their beliefs are utterly opposed to all that this country stands for, our history, traditions, and laws. There will be no place for them if this country survives.

Steve in PA
Steve in PA
August 29, 2018 6:30 pm

“The fact that it has taken nearly two and a half centuries for the United States to reach its present state of decay is a testament”

Two and 1/2 centuries is about normal.

    In The Fate of Empires and Search for Survival

Sir John Glubb has a chart of various empires and how long they lasted. 250 years +/- is the norm. My question is what comes next?

My 1st post…please be gentle. Love this site!

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Steve in PA
August 29, 2018 10:58 pm

stick around & post more–

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Steve in PA
August 30, 2018 2:11 am

Welcome Steve in PA. Look forward to more of your comments.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
August 29, 2018 8:55 pm

Thanks Rosendo, Lassie is a truly awesome motherfucker.

Rosendo Tabuni (EC)
Rosendo Tabuni (EC)
  Dennis Roe
August 29, 2018 9:51 pm

I’m often surprised at the reaction to a throw-away comment that is semi-esoteric; I did not expect Tim to catch the reference even if it is as subtle as a saggy tit to a Boomer.