How much does sun (solar) and wind (wind turbine) cost Rdawg …….for the umteenth time? YES, YES, YES …..H2 will be made using solar farms and wind turbines.
I saw it Ratty, didn’t say I was a big fan of wind. How much does it cost to build municipal power plants fired by coal? Those plants were not free. Don’t blame me I am just the messenger. I didn’t design the damned things .
starfcker
August 30, 2018 4:41 pm
You guys are all just haters!! Musk is the God-King and will rule the economic universe!! Just wait, he’s going to show you all what a genius businessman and entrepreneur he is! Visionary! Leader! Conqueror of all that he sees!!
It probably consists of passing any car that doesn’t burst into flames killing everyone working on it before it reaches the end of the assembly line…
TC
August 30, 2018 5:13 pm
Strange. When I’m test driving a car for purchase and discover the car has problems, I simply don’t buy the car. I guess someone had a gun to this guy’s head, or maybe buying an obvious lemon is the new soyboy way of showing how compassionate you are?
Its the fanboy thing. He’s gotta be trendy, hip, have the newest toy. Plus I’m sure he is a raging shitlib, and smugly thinks he is saving the world from the rabvages of global warming with his dumbass car, power by a lithium battery that is in no way environmentally friendly. Plus, there’s some cognitive dissonance in this as well. He has convinced himself for solong that Telsa makes great quality cars that are worth every penny, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary, that he refuses to admit he was wrong.
And ya, thats an insane amount wrong with a brand new vehicle. I wouldn’t buy a used one like that.
Llpoh
August 30, 2018 5:29 pm
I took a look at a Tesla the other day. From a distance I thought “not bad”.
But holy fuck, close up, what a piece of shit. The gaps betwen panels varied unbelievable. Fit and finish were a disgrace. How he is selling any of these is beyond me. If I otdered a car that came to me looking like a bunch of chimps had put it together, I would go, well, apeshit.
He’s not selling cars. He’s selling some sort of hype that you either “get” or don’t. Those of us who don’t get it just aren’t smart enough, I guess. Look at this tweet from the same guy:
“The most important product ever made. Humankind’s greatest invention.”
What the actual fuck? I’d argue for the wheel or the sail or the printing press.
Tesla concept is perfect for liberals , lose billons of other people’s money with tax payer confiscated subsidies . Create a product and program that is less than workable in the real world . The. Constantly ignore reality and keep pumping money into it while a narcissist flys around in a private jet convinced how great it all is and if you were as special as he you would understand .
1) cut off all tax payer funding , tax breaks etc …
2) hold the CEO and the board of directors for fraud and manipulation of everything that has transpired
3) Pearce the corporate vale and go after personal assets to reimburse the taxpayers
Enough of this Muskrat love affair !
Work-In-Progress
August 30, 2018 6:03 pm
Star,
Q1: Is it true Tesla is planning to solve the distance per charge issue by stocking swappable batteries at gas stations?
Q2: It is true Tesla is also designing a way to increase distance per charge by including propane tanks in the cars to run an on board generator to keep batteries charged?
All sounds good, but I’ll stick with an engine technology that uses a fuel with 9 or 10 times the energy density and only takes a few minutes to replenish.
Star et al:
I spent the last two days watching and digesting info on Tesla vehicles so I would have the knowledge to ACTUALLY come close to an intelligent debate about these vehicles. Do yourself a favor and watch at least these two videos by this guy. If you have any serious interest in a Tesla, it is a must watch to hear what this guy who rebuilds Teslas from salvage. This is a a better way to understand the nature of this machine other than the marketing seduction you will get from Tesla.
After hours of soaking in information, I can only say the guy above was EXTREMELY LUCKY that the list of defects/problems was that short.
1) I don’t swing that way, so I won’t be blowing you. Maybe your girlfriend EC is free. He can don his Professor Pangloss costume and you two crazy kids can go nuts.
2) Inexpensive KY bourbon will do.
3) Yes, I’m an asshole; guilty as charged. But at least assholes are useful – more than anyone can say about you.
4) If there’s ever a hydrogen economy, you won’t be around to see it, and neither will I.
You have to get the hydrogen from somewhere, yes? You can get it from hydrocarbons and you can get it from water. But. At the expense of energy inputs. As I showed with your examples of hydrogen generators, the electrical energy required yields about the same amount of energy contained in the hydrogen.
Not a winning formula.
Until that problem gets solved, this is a pipe dream.
No dragon breath, they have the technology in place to produce hydrogen using solar and wind turbine power on a massive scale. It is going to happen with or without you and your approval.
Naw, it has always been my policy of sorts that I won’t write disgusting shit because I have to live with the knowledge that I wrote it. I did have fun describing a zombiefied Yobe, though.
The thing about electric vehicles is that they are EASY to build. Compared to an internal combustion engine driven vehicle, they are child’s play. And yet Musk struggles to build them.
I am amazed he can feed himself. He must have little holes all over his face from the tines of a fork. Best he stick to a spoon.
Hey Llpoh- I spent about four hours on Tesla research and I can tell you that black guy taught me volumes about what Teslas are all about. He will clue you into how often different components/parts go out and what the real world costs are to fix them (and trust me you will have a sore behind from the reaming from Tesla) as you can’t get a part without them providing their service at EXTREMELY high prices. Believe me NO PARTS and NO SUPPORT at all without them.
Door handles go out frequently at the cost of $1000 to replace and on and on and on and on. UNfukkin believable the bullshit with those cars. I’m a Benz driver and I thought upkeep was high on MB , but that shit blew me away.
Loopey- Get this, Teslas do NOT all supercharge, if your Tesla does not, it’s $6500.00 to get that option. Good luck on a road trip without it. Also, Tesla can communicate with your car to turn things off , like the ability to supercharge.
Dawg- Anybody can buy a Benz, it takes a real man to keep one up.
Chuck
August 30, 2018 9:46 pm
I bought a used car about a year ago. What did my $20k get me?
1. A full tank of gas – that will go about 150 miles further than a full charge in a Tesla
2. All hardware and software works just fine. No need for updates.
3. Car was washed and detailed prior to delivery. Cleanest it will ever be in my ownership.
4. New tires and no alignment issues.
5. Some chips and minor scratches in the paint, but what do you expect on a 2 year old car. I’d be pissed if it was new.
6. No coolant leaks. No oil leaks. No leaks anywhere.
7. All headrests have foam.
You know, basic shit that any car manufacturer (or used car dealer) can take care of. Unless of course all you have to sell your car is hype and hopium.
My 35 year old Alfa Romeo doesn’t have the issues his brand new Tesla has. Except for the paint. The paint is pretty much shot.
I was thinking the same, as i bought one about 6 months ago. A few small paint issues, that aren’t visible from even 10 feet away and probably no one but me would notice any of them but one on a door, and its not that bad. Had only half a tank, but whatever. Mine I traded in had less, so no big deal. No dust or dirt, anywhere. No leaks on anything at all. Inside and outside clean as can be. Seats in great shape too, leather is perfect. 4 brand new tires, alignment and balance perfect. Tracks straight down the highway, smooth as can be, at 90 mph, feeling no different than at 70. Nissan does know how to build them, thats for sure. I absolutely love that Armada.
Rawdawg- I’ll bet you think that every celeb is a random who just happened to hit it big. Don’t feel bad, you have plenty of company. Amazing how many are bloodline.
I took a look at the showroom model S a few years ago. All it’s got under the chassis is a battery pack and a huge electric motor in the rear. Where did this fucker get a coolant leak from?
These Teslas are bad copies of actually beautiful, throaty, long range and unique Maseratis.
Their steering wheel turners ( or should I say absentee drivers) are some of the most pompous, egotistical, narcissistic, grossly misinformed and attention deprived humans on the planet.
We all need to go #TeslaHUNTING
, track them down ( which is usually easy because they move slightly more rapidly than a souped up Prius), honk on their driver’s side and give them a big Thumbs DOWN! It confuses and deeply annoys them because they seek God like status, second and third looks, drooling and even wet panties from SF soy boys.
I do it and then pull abruptly in front of them with my souped up turbo diesel with 3 Arc Audio amplifiers and an Audio Control electronic crossover driving esoteric Hybrid Audio tweeters, 6 1/2″ mids front and back and a JL Audio Dual voice coil W6. All powered through a 1 guage wire from my battery. Good luck with that set up #TeslaTurd. With AC on in CA and the 1,400 lb Short term battery inches from a 140 degree asphalt scorching surface expect many, many more spontaneous combustions.
How many years do you think you have to drive your gas vehicle to equal the emissions produced JUST from the 1,400 pound battery? Read this article and share it with your Tesla obsessed friends and millennials.
His face is extremely punchable. His words also would justify a harsh, fast upper cut.
But in combination the result is so utterly pathetic I just want to walk away and pretend I never saw this.
Backpfeifengesicht!
I hope this guy got one of Tesla’s dual purpose models: car and crematorium. The gene pool will be enhanced without him.
The musky wack job gov parasite says hydrogen fuel is stupid.
And it is…
What?? You are saying hydrogen fuel is stupid?
Where does the hydrogen fuel come from, and how much energy does it take to get it?
Hint: I already know the answer, and you won’t like it.
Crickets…
That’s what I thought.
How much does sun (solar) and wind (wind turbine) cost Rdawg …….for the umteenth time? YES, YES, YES …..H2 will be made using solar farms and wind turbines.
See today’s post about the economics of wind turbines, genius.
I saw it Ratty, didn’t say I was a big fan of wind. How much does it cost to build municipal power plants fired by coal? Those plants were not free. Don’t blame me I am just the messenger. I didn’t design the damned things .
You guys are all just haters!! Musk is the God-King and will rule the economic universe!! Just wait, he’s going to show you all what a genius businessman and entrepreneur he is! Visionary! Leader! Conqueror of all that he sees!!
Production is up!
Profits are up, Up, UP!
You forgot pussy magnet
There are no profits, so how can they be up?
Tesla quality control.
Now there’s an oxymoron if ever there was one.
It probably consists of passing any car that doesn’t burst into flames killing everyone working on it before it reaches the end of the assembly line…
Strange. When I’m test driving a car for purchase and discover the car has problems, I simply don’t buy the car. I guess someone had a gun to this guy’s head, or maybe buying an obvious lemon is the new soyboy way of showing how compassionate you are?
Its the fanboy thing. He’s gotta be trendy, hip, have the newest toy. Plus I’m sure he is a raging shitlib, and smugly thinks he is saving the world from the rabvages of global warming with his dumbass car, power by a lithium battery that is in no way environmentally friendly. Plus, there’s some cognitive dissonance in this as well. He has convinced himself for solong that Telsa makes great quality cars that are worth every penny, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary, that he refuses to admit he was wrong.
And ya, thats an insane amount wrong with a brand new vehicle. I wouldn’t buy a used one like that.
I took a look at a Tesla the other day. From a distance I thought “not bad”.
But holy fuck, close up, what a piece of shit. The gaps betwen panels varied unbelievable. Fit and finish were a disgrace. How he is selling any of these is beyond me. If I otdered a car that came to me looking like a bunch of chimps had put it together, I would go, well, apeshit.
He’s not selling cars. He’s selling some sort of hype that you either “get” or don’t. Those of us who don’t get it just aren’t smart enough, I guess. Look at this tweet from the same guy:
“The most important product ever made. Humankind’s greatest invention.”
What the actual fuck? I’d argue for the wheel or the sail or the printing press.
The actual Tesla designed and tested an electric car 90 years ago, and it was better than Musk’s..
https://arb.ca.gov/msprog/carpool/carpool.htm
He is also selling access to the car pool lanes. This was the only real reason why most people bought (then stopped buying) hybrid cars, too.
Would you swing a cactus around in anger?
Tesla concept is perfect for liberals , lose billons of other people’s money with tax payer confiscated subsidies . Create a product and program that is less than workable in the real world . The. Constantly ignore reality and keep pumping money into it while a narcissist flys around in a private jet convinced how great it all is and if you were as special as he you would understand .
1) cut off all tax payer funding , tax breaks etc …
2) hold the CEO and the board of directors for fraud and manipulation of everything that has transpired
3) Pearce the corporate vale and go after personal assets to reimburse the taxpayers
Enough of this Muskrat love affair !
Star,
Q1: Is it true Tesla is planning to solve the distance per charge issue by stocking swappable batteries at gas stations?
Q2: It is true Tesla is also designing a way to increase distance per charge by including propane tanks in the cars to run an on board generator to keep batteries charged?
All sounds good, but I’ll stick with an engine technology that uses a fuel with 9 or 10 times the energy density and only takes a few minutes to replenish.
Star et al:
I spent the last two days watching and digesting info on Tesla vehicles so I would have the knowledge to ACTUALLY come close to an intelligent debate about these vehicles. Do yourself a favor and watch at least these two videos by this guy. If you have any serious interest in a Tesla, it is a must watch to hear what this guy who rebuilds Teslas from salvage. This is a a better way to understand the nature of this machine other than the marketing seduction you will get from Tesla.
After hours of soaking in information, I can only say the guy above was EXTREMELY LUCKY that the list of defects/problems was that short.
pulled :/
Above was I (BL)
For the maroons who dis hydrogen…….wait a while. It’s already in use (fact). It is a done deal, book it.
Go ahead and down me, I’m expecting it.
Also, the moon is see-through.
Book it.
Blow me and NO I’m not sending you any expensive KY Bourbon…..asshole.
1) I don’t swing that way, so I won’t be blowing you. Maybe your girlfriend EC is free. He can don his Professor Pangloss costume and you two crazy kids can go nuts.
2) Inexpensive KY bourbon will do.
3) Yes, I’m an asshole; guilty as charged. But at least assholes are useful – more than anyone can say about you.
4) If there’s ever a hydrogen economy, you won’t be around to see it, and neither will I.
Dawg-You are entirely WRONG dragon breath. Please try READING, you may learn something. Here is a video for you O’ Impaired one.
Good grief you’re dense.
You have to get the hydrogen from somewhere, yes? You can get it from hydrocarbons and you can get it from water. But. At the expense of energy inputs. As I showed with your examples of hydrogen generators, the electrical energy required yields about the same amount of energy contained in the hydrogen.
Not a winning formula.
Until that problem gets solved, this is a pipe dream.
No dragon breath, they have the technology in place to produce hydrogen using solar and wind turbine power on a massive scale. It is going to happen with or without you and your approval.
1) Who’s “they”?
2) What’s the scale? Give me a number of installed capacity in Gigawatts, and when this will be coming online.
Or shut the fuck up.
News flash, Ratfuck. I’m a dude. Try hooking up with Jworth, he sounds lonely. Your doing ok with your pet goat but give him a try.
Lame. You’re slipping.
Naw, it has always been my policy of sorts that I won’t write disgusting shit because I have to live with the knowledge that I wrote it. I did have fun describing a zombiefied Yobe, though.
EC- You’ll have to hold down the fort in the late shift, I don’t feel so good tonight.
Get well soon.
Above was BL.
This video is proof that New Hampshire has the unique ability to turn anyone white.
Wirth- I was surprised they had a kneegrow.
It’s okay, we can say nigger here. This website is like a Speakeasy for saying nigger.
Funny. I was going to say the exact same thing.
We all know he was thinking it when he says “kneegrow”.
It’s like the timid folks that say “sh!t”, or fuque.
Jesus Christ, grow a pair.
I see you two assholes already met.
Don’t stir up Ratty this late, he has a few under his belt by now.
Edir: That’s Senior Frijoles….I may have had a few belts also. (hic)
No. there is no distance per charge issue.
The thing about electric vehicles is that they are EASY to build. Compared to an internal combustion engine driven vehicle, they are child’s play. And yet Musk struggles to build them.
I am amazed he can feed himself. He must have little holes all over his face from the tines of a fork. Best he stick to a spoon.
Hey Llpoh- I spent about four hours on Tesla research and I can tell you that black guy taught me volumes about what Teslas are all about. He will clue you into how often different components/parts go out and what the real world costs are to fix them (and trust me you will have a sore behind from the reaming from Tesla) as you can’t get a part without them providing their service at EXTREMELY high prices. Believe me NO PARTS and NO SUPPORT at all without them.
Door handles go out frequently at the cost of $1000 to replace and on and on and on and on. UNfukkin believable the bullshit with those cars. I’m a Benz driver and I thought upkeep was high on MB , but that shit blew me away.
Loopey- Get this, Teslas do NOT all supercharge, if your Tesla does not, it’s $6500.00 to get that option. Good luck on a road trip without it. Also, Tesla can communicate with your car to turn things off , like the ability to supercharge.
Pretty sure they all have the ability to supercharge built in, you just have to pay the fee to have the software unlocked.
Gator – That’s right , perhaps I could have explained it better. Either way, if you don’t have it that is the price. (BL Here)
A Benz driver? I shoulda known:
Since you seem to like Scotty Kilmer vids…
Dawg- Anybody can buy a Benz, it takes a real man to keep one up.
I bought a used car about a year ago. What did my $20k get me?
1. A full tank of gas – that will go about 150 miles further than a full charge in a Tesla
2. All hardware and software works just fine. No need for updates.
3. Car was washed and detailed prior to delivery. Cleanest it will ever be in my ownership.
4. New tires and no alignment issues.
5. Some chips and minor scratches in the paint, but what do you expect on a 2 year old car. I’d be pissed if it was new.
6. No coolant leaks. No oil leaks. No leaks anywhere.
7. All headrests have foam.
You know, basic shit that any car manufacturer (or used car dealer) can take care of. Unless of course all you have to sell your car is hype and hopium.
My 35 year old Alfa Romeo doesn’t have the issues his brand new Tesla has. Except for the paint. The paint is pretty much shot.
I was thinking the same, as i bought one about 6 months ago. A few small paint issues, that aren’t visible from even 10 feet away and probably no one but me would notice any of them but one on a door, and its not that bad. Had only half a tank, but whatever. Mine I traded in had less, so no big deal. No dust or dirt, anywhere. No leaks on anything at all. Inside and outside clean as can be. Seats in great shape too, leather is perfect. 4 brand new tires, alignment and balance perfect. Tracks straight down the highway, smooth as can be, at 90 mph, feeling no different than at 70. Nissan does know how to build them, thats for sure. I absolutely love that Armada.
Elon Musk isn’t real.
http://mileswmathis.com/musk.pdf
22- I know that and you know that but deez people don’t know that. Another creation of TPTB down at the entertainment office.
Pi = 4
Rawdawg- I’ll bet you think that every celeb is a random who just happened to hit it big. Don’t feel bad, you have plenty of company. Amazing how many are bloodline.
Pi=4
I took a look at the showroom model S a few years ago. All it’s got under the chassis is a battery pack and a huge electric motor in the rear. Where did this fucker get a coolant leak from?
EC- Watch the second video I posted above.
These Teslas are bad copies of actually beautiful, throaty, long range and unique Maseratis.
Their steering wheel turners ( or should I say absentee drivers) are some of the most pompous, egotistical, narcissistic, grossly misinformed and attention deprived humans on the planet.
We all need to go #TeslaHUNTING
, track them down ( which is usually easy because they move slightly more rapidly than a souped up Prius), honk on their driver’s side and give them a big Thumbs DOWN! It confuses and deeply annoys them because they seek God like status, second and third looks, drooling and even wet panties from SF soy boys.
I do it and then pull abruptly in front of them with my souped up turbo diesel with 3 Arc Audio amplifiers and an Audio Control electronic crossover driving esoteric Hybrid Audio tweeters, 6 1/2″ mids front and back and a JL Audio Dual voice coil W6. All powered through a 1 guage wire from my battery. Good luck with that set up #TeslaTurd. With AC on in CA and the 1,400 lb Short term battery inches from a 140 degree asphalt scorching surface expect many, many more spontaneous combustions.
How many years do you think you have to drive your gas vehicle to equal the emissions produced JUST from the 1,400 pound battery? Read this article and share it with your Tesla obsessed friends and millennials.
#TeslasSUCK. #LudicrousModeSucksYourBatteryDry
#AmbientEnergyIsForSunTanners
#SmokeEmOut. #SuckMySOOT
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/21/delingpole-tesla-car-batteries-co2-not-remotely-green-study-finds/