GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTHCARE

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starfcker
starfcker

that’s a bad analogy all the way around. That’s predatory capitalism. Which is what happens when you have weak government. A strong and just government would destroy the cartels that control healthcare.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty

“Strong” government is what provided the regulatory “cover” that protects and helped create the monopolies that plague our economy and the medical marketplace. NO monopoly would ever be able to exist for long in a truly free market in medicine, “insurance,” or any health-care-related services (or any other market segment). And “just government?” What a oxymoron.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

1,700.00 for a 9 block ambulance ride to the hospital. 80.00 for 4 baby aspirins. One guy took them out of the packets, one more witnessed that the number was indeed 4 who then handed them to a third person to give them to me.
300.00 for an inhaler I can buy in mexico for 30.00

Agnes
Agnes

Wow! I thought my hour and a half ride from Farmington, Mo to St. Louis was steep at $1800! I’m just beginning to see the bills. Of course, when I say “I’m” I really mean Nick. There is no way I could deal with the bills right now.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Maggie..
My heart gave out at the city library so they called in two fire trucks and the ambulance so there may have been 10 or 12 people involved. The irony if that’s the correct word is that I felt it coming on in time to drive myself over but chickened out.

Agnes
Agnes

Yeah… we kind of knew I would end up at St. Louis but we decided to try the Farmington hospital that night because I was feeling pretty darn poorly. At least they could put me on a morphine drip or something for the ride.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Agnes..
I left a reply on farm topic.

Tactical Zen
Tactical Zen

The only crime is not leaving dead bodies in your wake as an expression of your discontent.

I worry about the decent, moral people working in healthcare. Their lives are in danger along with the scum who help administer these tragedies.

Blacket care coming to you soon…at HUGE discounts.

Fjord
Fjord

Husbands bill was over $2000 to tell him his arm wasn’t broken.
Xrays were separate, about $50.
$256.00 for a tetanus shot.

For comparison, i can get a tetanus shot for a horse at tractor supply for $4.00

Tetanus boosters have been around for decades. Not like they’re rare or anything.
This is after sitting there for 4 hours among a couple dozen non English speaking persons.

Paul
Paul

Who you just know won’t be given a bill for service.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr

That’s probably over half the problem: there are four non-paying patients at some hospitals for every paying patient so the problem is more about Socialism than greedy Capitalism.

Aesop

And that’s why you’re paying $256 for the shot.
You’re paying for all the Julios and Marias and Wangs and Achmeds and Crazy Homeless Alcoholic Eddie guys with no insurance.

And of course they get a bill too.
Which we can’t make them pay.
If they gave the right address.
If they gave the right name.

And also, because if your husband got an infection from poor injection technique, or they hit a nerve or blood vessel, or the sun was in your eyes, it was $256 to offset insurance premiums, because you’d then sue the hospital for a gazillion $$$. So you have a doctor ordering it, a pharmacist stocking it, and an RN giving it, rather than you grabbing a dose at Tractor Supply, and doing it yourself.

And of course, if he’d just gone to your doctor and gotten the booster himself, on time, months ago, it could have been had for maybe $20 co-pay, or even less than that, right?

Make your congressweasel pass tort reform, stop suing everybody for everything, build the frickin’ Wall at the border, start throwing people back over it, get your annual checkups, and quit using the ER for drive-thru Urgent Care. Now, how much of that is within the hospital or ER’s control, and how much is within yours?

Otherwise, pony up. Walking in the door at any ER worth the name starts at about $1500.

If it was open, depending on day of the week/time of day, you could’ve gotten the same X-ray and treatment at any competent Urgent Care for a few hundred bucks.

People will price-shop for a ten dollar difference on a cell phone, but they won’t use common sense about an ER bill of $2K vs. one at Urgent Care of $500.
Genius, right there.

(And if Urgent Care wasn’t available for you, for any reason, then let’s be reasonable. You had no choice about the ER, that injury hurt – a lot, and you wanted to know now. Fair enough. You want care now, you pay now.
We take cash, check, almost any insurance, and VISA/MC. Tell me they do things different at Burger King and Target when you want a Whopper or a pair of jeans.)

But don’t bitch when you got the gold-plated care you demand, at prices your insurance company mostly pays, while you rarely see 10-20% of that cost.

This is the system you wanted, and now it’s not so bitchin. I get that.
Now go fix it, as outlined.

I’d chat further, but I’m on duty at the ER tonight.
Best Wishes.

Agnes
Agnes

I am just starting to get the bills from my recent ambulance ride to St. Louis (1800 for about an hour and a half ride.) and surgery (total about $42,000 so far, I think. Nick’s having an embolism, I think.) But the good news for you taxpaying cornshuckers out there who are on the hook for my medical care is that the agreed upon amount from the insurance broker between the Veterans Administration and the Tricare people seems to be a real bargain.

For instance, I saw one bill for 2800 that the insurance paid a few hundred and the total has now been adjusted to our $28 copay. A miracle!

It is going to be an interesting story.

Aesop

This has nothing to do with “government-run healthcare pricing”.
You’re paying $426 because you work and have insurance, and to help cover the billion$ in free healthcare hospitals have to give out to indigent homeless and uninsured illegal aliens.

You’re paying for everyone else’s care, every time you go.

They count on that.

The government just ensures there’s no capitalism and price competition involved in the process.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty

And there is NOTHING “free market” about the $8.00 price either. Regulatory BS plagues even the OTC market.

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