Llpoh: Get Out While You Can

I am currently stateside. It has been a few years, and I had to take care of some business. My wife and I have revisited some of our favorite spots, and caught up with some family. We have driven through some of God’s finest works. There is no more beautiful landscape anywhere on earth than the west coast, Route 66, southern Colorado, the Badlands, etc.

That said, I say this most sincerely, and with great sorrow. Those of you who can, get out now.

What I have seen leads me to depression, and there is no road back for the US, in my opinion.

The blinkered people, the tax collectors roadside (police everywhere collecting taxes), the tax collecting at every opportunity, the welfare state, the severe drop in service at restaurants, the tattoos, the green hair, the lard-asses everywhere, the severe over-population of great swathes of the country, the hideous media out only to inflame, and not to report, the aged and infirm working at whatever jobs they can find, the homeless everywhere, the beggars, the filth roadside, the severe health issues seen at every turn (people everywhere too fat to walk, carrying oxygen, diabetes inflicted, toothless), casinos one after another, hideous roads, etc. ad naseum, lead me to but one conclusion: the US is fucked. It grieves me to say it. It disgusts me to see it.

Of all of these things, the most serious is the blinkered people. They have no insight, no curiosity, no sense of understanding of the world, no vision of anything outside their tiny bubble of existence.

There are far too many people. California has 40 million, almost double that of Australia, which is more or less the size of the lower 48. I struggle to breathe around such masses.

I can feel the desperation wherever I go, but the people cannot see that they cause their own issues by living far beyond their means, with leased cars and pickups, and mortgaged to the hilt.

I spoke with many relying on pensions, who do not realize the precariousness of their positions. I ask how well funded are their plans, and they stare at me mouths agape, unable to even grasp the question.

I spoke to many business owners, who are so angry it defies belief. To a man, they are wanting to throw in the towel. Government has choked them to death, and dealing with employees is killing them day by day. One has seven lawsuits going, and has been sued 25 times. He services equipment for other companies. Whenever an idiot maims someone with the equipment he services, he gets roped into the lawsuit. The equipment never fails, but some idiot, not employed by him, runs over someone, and he gets sued, guilty by association.

The immigration policy of the US is helping destroy the country. As a reference point, Australia takes a couple hundred thousand immigrants a year, talent based. Talent based. Compare that to the US insanity.

On and on it goes.

So I say this. Get out if  you can. I recommend New Zealand or Australia. Others might recommend somewhere else. These countries have issues, but they are a few decades behind those that the US has. If not that, then if possible move away from the big cities.

I am sorry it has come to this.

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hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
September 28, 2018 8:33 am

We left the United States ten years ago. These days we live in the mountains of Northern Appalachia, and I expect we’ll get even less attention after whatever collapse is coming than we do now. Where my people are, there is my home.

You were one of the contributors here that I always admired, long before I began to comment myself. You’re knowledgeable, intelligent, hard working and honest and even when you dragged me through the coals I still respected you. I’m not surprised that you’ve made a go of it in your new home and it sounds as if the change has mellowed you somewhat and that is a good thing. You should be proud of your choices and while I concur with your observations of what has become of the country formerly known as the USA you have to understand that not everyone will share your strategic vision.

Who we are is less a product of where we live than of where we see ourselves. A man in a prison cell can still be free while a person living on the streets can be a slave.

“You can only lose what you cling to.”

I wish you all the best in your new found home, it is lucky to have you.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  hardscrabble farmer
September 28, 2018 1:10 pm

HSF – I regret things I said to you. Not sure why I did, but my buttons got pushed somehow. I have indeed mellowed. Thanks for noticing.

You have become a TBP treasure, in the triumvirate of Admin, Stuck, and yourself, re quality of what you write, at least in my opinion. I have been hoping to see you post, and am glad to see the new article.

Your kind words will not be forgotten.

Stucky
Stucky
  Llpoh
September 29, 2018 9:39 am

There are a core group of posters here who I cherish most dearly. You (Lloph) and Hardscrabble Farmer are most definitely in that group … for a long time now.

As such, it truly pains me when my true pals feud with each other. I am not kidding.

Therefore, I am giddy with happiness that you and HF have decided to smoke ’em Peace Pipe. I am not kidding. Peace and harmony are restored in the land of TBP!

Me … doing the Austrian Dick Dance of Happinness
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Hey, girls and guys! Let’s get this bitch to 300!!!!

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Stucky
September 29, 2018 11:52 am

Stuck – I zoomed all the way in. But nope, no dick. I think thT must be a female great ape mimicking your famous Dick Dance.

Kind words, again, old friend.

300, yes, we can. Come on monkeys, one last push!

Stucky
Stucky
  Llpoh
September 30, 2018 4:30 pm

Well … my Huge Full Package (nuts and dick) is fully retractable. This is why kicking me in the nuts is never a successful tactic.

Anyway, the real reason I posted is that we’re just a few posts from FOUR HUNDRED!!!!

Let’s go assholes. Either this is at 400 by tomorrow morning, or I’m leaving TBP forever.

Agnes
Agnes
  Stucky
September 30, 2018 8:35 pm

Just change your name and no one will ever know. LOL

I think this is 390

Agnes
Agnes
  Stucky
October 1, 2018 8:10 am

You don’t have to leave or change your name. Haha… I am reading this.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/

Why don’t you “revisit” the Jewish Question, Stucky? I am serious. It is the question at the bottom of it all.

I find this paragraph intriguing.

“According to Bauer, man has to sacrifice the “privilege of faith” to be able to receive the universal rights of man. Let us examine, for a moment, the so-called rights of man – to be precise, the rights of man in their authentic form, in the form which they have among those who discovered them, the North Americans and the French. These rights of man are, in part, political rights, rights which can only be exercised in community with others. Their content is participation in the community, and specifically in the political community, in the life of the state. They come within the category of political freedom, the category of civic rights, which, as we have seen, in no way presuppose the incontrovertible and positive abolition of religion – nor, therefore, of Judaism. There remains to be examined the other part of the rights of man – the droits d’homme, insofar as these differ from the droits d’citoyen.”

Why don’t I write it? I’m contaminated with Maggie germs.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Stucky
September 29, 2018 10:39 pm

Well if you are going to start talking about dicks again then I bet 400 is a possibility.

Agnes
Agnes
  Mary Christine
September 30, 2018 9:58 am

Shit, since it may be months or years before LLPOH visits again and writes us another “your country is crap” essay, let’s shoot for 500!

Agnes
Agnes
  Agnes
September 30, 2018 8:38 pm

By the way? LLPOH, I have enjoyed reading most of the comments so far and almost all of your replies! Haha… I am jealous of your enormous dogs. They make my pair of Pyrs seem like midsize pups.

RS
RS
September 28, 2018 9:43 am

F off, LLPOH.

You turn tail and run from the country that made you millions.
(I know, you will claim that YOU, not the country, is responsible for your wealth, but where else in the world could you have done what afforded that?)

True, the U.S. is in a state of degradation, but some have hope for the future and will do everything we can to achieve that hope.

Don’t come back this time.

Stucky
Stucky
  RS
September 28, 2018 11:17 am

You don’t believe in freedom, do you? Of course you don’t. You don’t even believe a man is free to choose his own destiny. You should look long and hard in a mirror, and try to figure out why you are such a dipshit.

Also, fucking off is one thing I’m sure Llpoh never does. He works to hard to fuck off. I’ll bet you fuck off a lot though …. you sound like a jealous little bitch concerning the Injun’s wealth.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  RS
September 28, 2018 1:17 pm

RS – and just what are you doing? Seriously, what are you doing? Besides riding those little scooter things in the Walmart to load up on Twinkies, just what the hell are you doing about the degradation?

I served the US, I have paid more in taxes than you will make in your lifetime, have created a business that still exists, etc. Just what the fuck have you done?

These peabrains post without having the sense to pour piss out of their boots.

Thanks again Stuck. You and HSF are true heroes of TBP, and I am grateful for all you have done for this site.

Ok K
Ok K
September 28, 2018 10:22 am

Wrong Thread I know but it’s for K

FEINSTEIN.
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JUST ANOTHER (Seek & Destroy) DAY AT THE OFFICE FOR DEMONRATS

No collusion here people.
That couldn’t be Ford’s lawyer with Clinton.That would mean Democrates would ru

https://mobile.twitter.com/TracyLynn128/status/1045507277699076096

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Evil No More

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Marian
Marian
September 28, 2018 10:45 am

So what happens when the entire world realizes it hates Americans, not just the US? Then again having a bunch of Hispanics and Africans being the majority of a country sitting on a bunch of nukes and biological weapons might not bode well for the earth, so you being hated by the locals shouldn’t matter. Not saying you shouldn’t run. Just suggesting the world is getting awfully small for any effective hiding. Still it’s better than my exit strategy of rooting for Yellowstone to blow. Hey it should bury all the weapons. Seriously folks, everyone should consider decommissioning the US arsenal before fleeing the great American crime scene.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Marian
September 28, 2018 1:19 pm

My general experience is that Americans are not hated. Except maybe in certain countries being bombed.,

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
September 28, 2018 11:13 am

Looks like the Communist insurgency in the U.S. may start soon. Check out this article:
https://pjmedia.com/trending/communists-on-twitter-discuss-strategy-of-ambushes-and-assassinations-against-political-enemies/

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Vixen Vic
September 29, 2018 6:58 pm

Hey, V V, I heard about that this morning, not from PJ. There was a facebook and Twitter account called Guillotine that has gone private since yesterday calling for the same thing. It supposedly had 15K followers. My grandson is here so I may not get to it but I will post more later if I can.

randy from the andes
randy from the andes
September 28, 2018 2:05 pm

I made the decision to leave right after 9 11 … the full nazi takeover of the country … an easy choice … america is not a country, it is an idea that the common man should be free from oppressive government. I had to hang around and see my parents off to their reward and qualify for my pension, then it was time to leave. I could not save my children by staying, so I left and have made it easy for them to leave. Americans gave up their freedom without much of a fuss. I take that seed and plant it among people who know they are oppressed and might be willing to fight to be free.

william williams
william williams
  randy from the andes
September 29, 2018 4:33 pm

>>>I could not save my children by staying, so I left and have made it easy for them to leave.

For an oldster considering expatriation, that is a significant positive factor. Your kids may/may not be happy to see you leave the country, but in a few years time they may be damn glad you did.

James
James
September 28, 2018 3:08 pm

Australia is a true police state. Stay away!

RiNS
RiNS
September 28, 2018 3:55 pm

One Third of Americans Prescribed Opioids in the Past Two Years

Words to the Wise
Words to the Wise
September 28, 2018 3:58 pm

It does not take much to see the great destruction being done and has been happening for a long time, especially when one leaves the muck pit to see other countries, different places, different kinds of people and then returns to this abomination of this country.

One doesn’t realize the water is boiling until one is dropped into the lukewarm water then the water heats up and the dumbed-down, drugged up, tech-addicted never even notice. America is a dying nation, she’s had a good run, she’s not coming back to what she once was. And one can take that to the bank…uh, ooopps they are all closing!!

Scripture tells of the babylonian beast, the financial hub of satan’s den right here in our nation. We are nearing extinction as a nation and will not come back…all empires die sooner or later by their over-bloated people, over-spent and debt ridden economy and satanic convictions and perversions.

Look at Noah and his family – only 8 people survived the flood. All the rest of the millions of satans sinful minions drowned. What does that tell ya?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Words to the Wise
September 28, 2018 9:01 pm

Well,this article has brought a lot of comments and a lot of emotion,with that,standing by me post yesterday and staying/if necc. for the good things this country stands for fighting,and as posted yesterday perhaps dying.Rather all afore mentioned not necc. but if it is,while,I am in it to the end,and if survive,the beyond.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Words to the Wise
September 30, 2018 10:56 pm

Tells ya a lot of morons believe in fairy tales.

Pete
Pete
September 28, 2018 9:04 pm

The best thing I did was to get out of NYC several years ago and move to the Deep South. We’re not near a big city and we’re well armed. LLpoh is right about the state of America but leaving is not the answer. The whole world is on the verge of collapse. Ya’ll come down to Dixie, but leave your liberalism behind. You’ll not find much sympathy down here even with the existence of certain urban enclaves.

Mark
Mark
  Pete
September 29, 2018 10:29 pm

Pete,

Hell yea my brother…I self sorted in 84…you don’t have to be a snake to be a Copperhead!

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
September 28, 2018 10:00 pm

I’ve moved from the US and back again ten years later, and it is not something to be undertaken lightly. The bureaucracy involved on both ends was extremely daunting, the time-frames were long (12-18 mo.), and the expenses were high, not including the expense of either moving everything you own (we shipped our cars) OR selling low and buying higher on the other side.

Australia has closed its retirement and retirement/investor visas, anyway, so no luck there for most of the readers of this blog, who, I’d guess, are over 50. It’s also closed its “business skills” visa, so I’m not sure who is allowed in at this point and why. https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/visa-1/160-

My spouse is European, and I would never have considered moving to Europe as a long-term plan without his knowledge and personal connections. If TSHTF, I don’t see “gringo” transplants having a particularly good time of it anywhere, when it becomes time to circle the wagons.

william williams
william williams
  Chubby Bubbles
September 29, 2018 4:38 pm

The Australian immigration criteria change (i.e. get more restrictive) with some regularity. Last time I looked, the “low end” investor visa required $5 million, but these are “no longer being issued” The investor visas which are being issued require $10 million.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  william williams
September 30, 2018 10:58 pm

Which is why llpoh is just being a colossal dickwad inviting TBP’ers to emigrate there.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Chubby Bubbles
September 30, 2018 11:39 pm

Chubby Butthole – pretty sure I said “if you can” or somesuch. You can immigrate on merit, too, you know, rather than buy your way in. Skill, education, experience, etc., will get you in, if you are not too old.

Oh, I forgot – blow me.

Cmdr. Burticus
Cmdr. Burticus
September 29, 2018 9:39 am

I’m a heavily-armed native Floridian whose first ancestor in North America arrived in 1658. Over the last 60 years, I’ve watched the steady destruction of the states politically, economically & socially, as correctly observed by the author. In 1994, I decided to excape and obtained permanent resident visas for Australia (not easy), figuring it was white, English-speaking and free. When I visited, I was disgusted to find that Australia has most of the same problems, plus many more. The coast highway from Newcastle to Brisbane was a disaster. There was one small stretch of modern interstate highway. But, when I was finally able to get up to a decent speed, there was a tax collector waiting to ambush & rob me. There is not enough water to support the population and the place is “ate up” with invasive species, like cane toads and rabbits. After stupidly abandoning their white Australia policy, they’ve been invaded by Chinques and brownies, though not as badly as the Mexican/Central American invasion of the states. I was there when the federal gubmint used the isolated shooting incident in Tasmania to effectively confiscate all private citizens’ firearms. (This was the deal-breaker for me.) The blokes I met at the “bottle shop” sternly reminded me over beers that the Bill of Rights is uniquely American; they have no such constitutional protections. I’ve come to the conclusion that the Anglosphere and Europe are flocked, Africa’s a $#!+#01e, much of Asia is an overpopulated polluted mess and a whitey can never assimilate there. This leaves South America for Plan C, where some nations are more European, Christian, Caucasian than the states. Chile probably offers the most political & economic freedom.

I stayed in Florida after giving up on Australia, but am now executing Plan D – “opting out” and cruising the Caribbean on a 42 foot sailing yacht. If a gubbermint doesn’t treat me well, they will find my boat missing from the lagoon in the morning, having sailed on the midnight tide.

Stucky
Stucky
  Cmdr. Burticus
September 29, 2018 10:42 am

Pretty interesting response …. especially since you have actually tried the move-to-Australia approach.

Aussie wouldn’t be a place I’d consider either;

— 1) I have sons and grandchildren … and moving to the other side of the world would pretty much mean isolation from them

—2) Summary of every nature show I watch about Australia; “There are a SHITLOAD of bugs, spiders, insects, bees, snakes, crocks, scorpions, and shit we haven’t even discovered yet … which live EVERYWHERE …. all of which will KILL you in under 10 minutes!!!”

—3) This is just a wild assed guess. The only thing keeping Australia free is the USA military. Eventually China will invade and take them over. Although they are an island continent …. 40 million people have no chance against 1.3 billion.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Stucky
September 29, 2018 12:23 pm

24 million people, but who is quibbling?

There are few places in earth that can withstand a China invasion if it comes to it without the US umbrella of protection. Japan? Korea? Indonesia? Thailand? Etc. It is a risk. We are not exactly next door, but it is a risk. Personally, I am more afraid of Muslim Indonesia in the long run.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Cmdr. Burticus
September 29, 2018 12:21 pm

Burticus. – you make some good points. But everything in context. Oz has 24 million people, and is the size of the lower 48 states of the US, give or take. If you expect US quality interstates with that population and size, you are fooling yourself.

Oz did not confiscate all guns. Far from it. I and my neighbors have plenty. There is not a gun culture in the city, but we of the land have heaps.

Oz has fewer water issues overall than parts of the US I have been in, with far better quality of water. cA, etc., are toast. No Australian city is in water trouble. Oz has lots of water, but it is up north. Oz folks also catch and use a lot of the rain that falls. But it is still a very dry nation overall.

About 8 percent of Oz is non- white, mostly Asian. Compare that to the US. Boy howdy, no comparison, right? The US has around 5% AsaAsianian population. And I kid you not, I would far, far rather have Asians, educated and skilled, than what the US has.

Oz taxes are high, but more or less on par with the US. The police do less confiscations, though. Oz has a higher labor participation rate and is younger by far. Oz is generally more progressive than most, but saying that it is much more interested in controlling its borders. How is that working out in the US?

Aussies seem far healthier than Americans, as I wander around. Far healthier.

There are many of the same issues in Oz as in other advanced economy. But there is plenty of room to escape people.

overthecliff
overthecliff
September 29, 2018 9:56 am

The events in Washington DC this week just reinforce Llpoh’s prediction of SHTF. There is a lot of disagreement about what we do about it. Personally I don’t think moving to Australia is the answer. The communists and mohammedans are really the same under their secular and religious skins. The communists will infiltrate and dominate islam and use 7th century savages as storm troopers. They have done it inthe west to Christian denominations and institutions. Churches and religious institutions are dominated by people who do not believe in God.
I don’t think there is anyplace to run to USA is the only place of significance the communists don’t completely run. Sooner or later we will have to settle the conflict. Every man ultimately must decide for himself what he has to do . It will be decided in the next 10 years. Good luck all.

Grizzly Bare
Grizzly Bare
September 29, 2018 1:32 pm

Our primary fear is death. One way or another all our other fears and worries are either derived from our fear of death, or they are of overall insignificance. There are millions of ways to die. We all go through life in search of that which will ultimately do us in, mostly believing we are doing something else, while focused on something else. We are all going to die. Nobody gets out alive. Run where you will, but the grim reaper will still find you.

I would prefer to put death off for as long as I have a decent quality of life. I have gotten out of debt, moved out of the city, worked toward a more self reliant existence, but my focus has always been on obtaining a better quality of life. If it turns out that these decisions help to extend my days on the planet I will consider that a fringe benefit, but survival, come hell or high water has not been my focus.

We can read the tea leaves, but it is impossible to know the future for sure. The only sure fact we know about the future is that death awaits. I intend to spend my remaining time wringing as much enjoyment and satisfaction from each day that I can, and less time fretting about what is to come. Whether or not I make it through to the other side of whatever shitstorm is coming, I hope I can make a contribution along the way that will be of some benefit to others.

CA
CA
September 29, 2018 1:57 pm

I left Canada for Central America 5 years ago. What do I miss the most, fresh mushrooms.
While the rules and regulations here are lax compared to the north it is definitely tedious trying to get things regarding any paperwork done. These people are in the Stone Age when it comes to processing paper. They think the more paper you have the more people you can employ. Most are not qualified to wipe their ass let alone deal with paperwork. When they don’t feel like doing shit they ask for more documentation. Massively irritating.

That said , they are the friendliest of people. They will absolutely leave you alone if you are not a trouble maker. People here mind their own business, nobody telling u what color to paint your house or how high your grass can grow. No such thing as strata titled neighborhoods. Taxes are low, weather is warm 12 months a year.

And did I tell the best part, people leave u the fuck alone.

Agnes
Agnes
  CA
September 29, 2018 6:04 pm

Mushrooms? Really? Portabella or the kind my son’s friend grows? (He’s a Chemical Engineer and working for Big Pharma, who knows all about mushrooms.)

CA
CA
September 29, 2018 1:58 pm

I left Canada for Central America 5 years ago. What do I miss the most, fresh mushrooms.
While the rules and regulations here are lax compared to the north it is definitely tedious trying to get things regarding any paperwork done. These people are in the Stone Age when it comes to processing paper. They think the more paper you have the more people you can employ. Most are not qualified to wipe their ass let alone deal with paperwork. When they don’t feel like doing shit they ask for more documentation. Massively irritating.

That said , they are the friendliest of people. They will absolutely leave you alone if you are not a trouble maker. People here mind their own business, nobody telling u what color to paint your house or how high your grass can grow. No such thing as strata titled neighborhoods. Taxes are low, weather is warm 12 months a year.

And did I tell the best part, people leave u the fuck alone.

Bing
Bing
September 29, 2018 2:58 pm

New Zealand and Australia are frequently mentioned havens. One must remember that these resource-rich countries are within China’s sphere-of-influence. Someday they may well be overwhelmed by a Chinese invasion. Where would you be then?

ross
ross
  Bing
September 29, 2018 4:02 pm

And, And neither is an easy place in which to immigrate. Quite difficult for the average Joe. Maybe not for the average Jihad.

Words to the Wise
Words to the Wise
  Bing
September 29, 2018 11:32 pm

People forget that there are frequently lots of earthquakes in NZ which calls up the remembrance of the 6th seal especially for the corrupt rich and famous, and those unbelievers who will suffer God’s wrath – there’s no place to run and no place to hide –

Revelation 6:15-17 —–
15 Then the kings of the earth, the nobles, the commanders, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and free man, hid in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16 And they said to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb. 17 For the great day of Their wrath has come, and who is able to withstand it?”…

Old Man
Old Man
September 29, 2018 3:38 pm

Wheat and chaff know no borders.

‘If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity they will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword they will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people.’

Revelation 13:10

miforest
miforest
September 29, 2018 4:22 pm

I don’t know of any country a american can get residency and a work visa in. unless you have a pension or are wealthy ,you cannot even get residency . has anyone gone to work in australia, NZ or Canada? I would like to heare about it.

william williams
william williams
  miforest
September 29, 2018 5:48 pm

Re NZ, getting a job offer is the hard part (an NZ employer has to attest that no local resident is available to fill the job he’s offering to you). IF you can get a bona fide job offer, getting a work visa is just a formality of a day or two.

The above has no legal implications as to your getting NZ residency (i.e. the right to stay indefinitely). Pagmatically, however, if you are a personable and productive individual, under age 50, you can very likely parlay a work visa into residency. It would certainly be easier to do so while working in NZ, than applying for residency from outside the country.

As in (almost) all things, money talks, and quite loudly.

Rob157
Rob157
September 29, 2018 5:54 pm

LLPOH,
GTFO coward, traitor. People like you helped create this mess, unable to face the truth about how we got to this point. Now, you run to some other police state? Good riddance.

Administrator
Administrator
Admin
  Rob157
September 29, 2018 6:19 pm

Fuck you.

Your pathetic existence doesn’t hold a candle to what Llpoh has accomplished and the livelihoods he has provided with his business.

Go back to your job cooking fries at McD.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Administrator
September 29, 2018 10:20 pm

Admin – thank you.

Agnes
Agnes
September 29, 2018 5:57 pm

Well, I have to tell you I went to a Walmart and I saw what you saw, LLPOH. Since my unexpected illness 6 weeks ago, I literally do not leave our land except for very brief outings to doctors. Even a brief visit to the grocery can be kept to a minimum of human interaction in a small community like ours.

But, since we needed a few things not readily available, I agreed to visit the big town of Cape Girardeau and go to Walmart. While inside for just a couple of items (I won’t buy much food there) I looked at the people around me shopping and realized that most of the people are really, really fat.

Not just big woman large (I consider myself to be a large frame woman and until this recent illness I’ve carried a good 30 to 50 pounds “extra” but I don’t think many would have called me “fat”… maybe “stout?”

Since I’ve lost a lot more than I even think about now, I’ll just say that because of your commentary, I intentionally paid attention to the people around me while I was in a crowd.

People are rude and ugly here. Especially when they are in a stressful crowd situation. That includes me. I need to stay in the country.

impermanence
impermanence
September 29, 2018 6:11 pm

If you inhabit a nice part of the U.S. and live well within your means, then you have it made. Worrying about this, that, or the other thing simply isn’t relevant if you approach each day as potentially your last [which it is].

You live amid human beings, so alter your reality to account for such, get off your ass and help somebody out, and you will feel much better. Pick up and leave and you will find that your present miseries will follow you wherever you go.

Agnes
Agnes
  impermanence
September 29, 2018 6:17 pm

That sounds like a good piece of advice for those of us who have determined we are where we plan to be when it all commences.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
September 29, 2018 8:39 pm

Just wondering when the last time there was a thread that hit 400? McCain does not count. He is a lightening rod.

Agnes
Agnes
  Mary Christine
September 30, 2018 12:43 am

There are a few. I think Stucky holds the record here with one in the seven hundred range? LOL

oldtoad of gReen acRes
oldtoad of gReen acRes
September 29, 2018 9:10 pm

I am not going anywhere.
Yes, the future looks grim.
Got a good God, good family, good friends and a great enemy, what could be better?
The grass does look greener on the other side of the fence.
Every winter I say, ‘Never coming back to Maine,’ every spring he’s back. Good luck to you.

BL
BL
September 29, 2018 9:57 pm

Congrats Llpoh on reaching over 330+ comments! I figured it for around a hundred, and even if 20 percent of them are yours. 🙂 Seriously, the vast majority will stay here come what may and in the end the orchestrated birth of the coming bullshit new age will be something to see. I hope that I will live long enough to see who gets the bigger shit sandwich, Australia or the US. It could be a toss up, but understand the SHTF event will be global so might as well hold down the fort here and pray for a minimal amount of pain, physically and economically.

Best of luck to you and safe journey home.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  BL
September 29, 2018 10:27 pm

Under fifteen percent are mine! Lots of folks to respond to! Thanks. Wrapping up the journey soon.

Paulo
Paulo
September 29, 2018 10:00 pm

“Of all of these things, the most serious is the blinkered people. They have no insight, no curiosity, no sense of understanding of the world, no vision of anything outside their tiny bubble of existence.”

When you are brought up as ‘exceptional’, sometimes people actually believe it.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
September 29, 2018 11:14 pm

“The Super Rich of Silicon Valley Have a Doomsday Escape Plan
Wealthy Americans have stepped up investment in New Zealand. Parliament votes to ban foreigners from buying bolt-hole homes.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2018-rich-new-zealand-doomsday-preppers/

“Years of doomsday talk at Silicon Valley dinner parties has turned to action.

In recent months, two 150-ton survival bunkers journeyed by land and sea from a Texas warehouse to the shores of New Zealand, where they’re buried 11 feet underground.

“Seven Silicon Valley entrepreneurs have purchased bunkers from Rising S Co. and planted them in New Zealand in the past two years, said Gary Lynch, the manufacturer’s general manager. At the first sign of an apocalypse — nuclear war, a killer germ, a French Revolution-style uprising targeting the 1 percent — the Californians plan to hop on a private jet and hunker down, he said.”

Agnes
Agnes
  KeyserSusie
September 30, 2018 12:41 am

I’m curious what a survival bunker consists of? Is it stocked or just like a big trailer house you would bury?

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Agnes
September 30, 2018 8:04 am

Follow the link. Much detail there. but here is one graphic contained in it.comment image

Agnes
Agnes
  KeyserSusie
September 30, 2018 9:13 am

That is one fancy doomsday bunker. A surgery station! Wow, even my old pal in Oklahoma didn’t have a surgery station.

He has five shipping containers arranged in a circle underground with the middle open for communal gathering. (more than one family.) I do like his arrangement of four showers and four toilets in one bunker as an alternate to a single bathroom. I’m looking at the single bathroom on this one and thinking they are going to need more potty space if there are women involved.

And suddenly, I want to ask LLPOH if the water in the toilet spins counterclockwise in Australia?

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Agnes
September 30, 2018 11:04 pm

Christ, in a situation like that, you’d be drinking your urine…

Agnes
Agnes
  Chubby Bubbles
October 1, 2018 7:43 am

My pal in Oklahoma buried a huge tank of water and has a filtering system to collect and purify rainwater and gray water. An enormous amount of labor and fiat dollars went into the compound. It is part of a larger “community” of folks in the hinterlands who intend to survive, regroup and secure their boundaries.

One of the things LLPOH alludes toward but doesn’t say outright is this: After the initial war/civilwar/rioting/and so on… there will be a new sort of alliance that will form between the people who got themselves ready and the “others.”

Most of you are “others.” I think we are in a good spot to be part of the “after” committee. I’m glad I kept all my radios.

Roboto
Roboto
September 30, 2018 5:57 am

When I read your post, I thought to myself, this is true. I am not “blinkered” as such (good word), but still; I cannot share this with those that I love. They would become too depressed to carry on, else they would start baking cookies – denial, and normalcy bias.

I too, am “sorry it has come to this”.

flash
flash
September 30, 2018 8:16 am

Red Ass , you moved to Australia (soon to be Chinastralia) , the land of control frikking shithead leftist loons , but no surprise, cowards always run.

flash
flash
  flash
September 30, 2018 9:21 am

“cowards always run “to where they fit in best.

BL
BL
  flash
September 30, 2018 9:23 am

FLASH- I figured you would be one of the first in to this thread to greet Loopey on his return with a kind word, but alas you are bringing up the rear. I was beginning to believe you had gone on to glory never to flame the injun’s ass again. 🙂

Glad to see ya!

flash
flash
  BL
September 30, 2018 9:36 am

Thanks .I’m still around although not as active as I was once. Just stopped by and saw the affirmative action pimped , butt-hurt America hating, closest Bolshevik pontificating on how much he hates the the ones what brung him. Ungrateful hand biting cur. He can’t get back to land down under the nutsack soon enough. He is tainting our air.

BL
BL
  flash
September 30, 2018 9:48 am

Damn Flash, I’ve really missed your colorful commentary, come back as a regular like old times.

Just curious, are you still loving you some Trump?

flash
flash
  BL
September 30, 2018 10:48 am

I still love Trump the GOPe murder weapon , if that’s what you mean. Thanks, but old times are best left on the shelf where they don’t risk getting shattered by the new.

BL
BL
  flash
September 30, 2018 10:57 am

flash…..the only thing DT murders is the truth and. ME women and children for Satanyahoo.

flash
flash
  BL
September 30, 2018 11:09 am

BL. if you can’t see the political change and the rise of the Alt-Right inspired by Trump alone, then maybe you should just give it up already. The pasture awaits you.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  flash
September 30, 2018 10:10 am

Damn, flash, hard to believe but you are just as stupid as you ever were. Suprised you did not cut and paste someone else’s ideas as usual. I mean it takes a special kind of stupid to post thousands of times and have Admin tell you you had never posted anything of value.

Blow me.

flash
flash
  Llpoh
September 30, 2018 10:45 am

Yet, you still get more thumbs down than any cut and past I ever did. Must be your glaring brilliance and endearing personality.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  flash
September 30, 2018 10:58 am

I have a gift. And there are always a few folks that believe my country right or wrong must be defended. You clearly are in that group. Just what have you done to change things, flash? Anything at all?

flash
flash
  Llpoh
September 30, 2018 11:07 am

#1 . I didn’t run from the fight like a red ass cucked coward.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  flash
September 30, 2018 2:05 pm

So you’ve done zip. Got it.

oldtoad of gReen acRes
oldtoad of gReen acRes
September 30, 2018 9:34 am

Australia has a habit of importing invasive species. American imports are like the cute and endearing Cane toads, spreading rapidly and doing damage.

deb harvey
deb harvey
September 30, 2018 7:37 pm

know someone who emigrated to oz. came back soon. said pc there just as bad as here and moslems welcomed but refuse to assimilate.
don’t think there is a country left on earth for us. I keep hoping though.

Llpoh
Llpoh
September 30, 2018 9:05 pm

I am currently in another flyover town – a biggish regional city. The local paper is advertising manufacturing jobs for $8 an hour, bus driver jobs for $10 an hour, administration jobs for $13. Seriously, what the fuck?

I am a believer in market sets the rates, but I do not think I could stomach paying those wages. I would rather not run a business than provide jobs where the people will struggle so severely. That said, I have said for some time that the lower half of the workforce is going to struggle mightily in the modern economy. I just would hope that even the dullest tool in the shed could generate more than $8 an hour in value.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Llpoh
September 30, 2018 10:24 pm

In 1996 I had to leave UPS after 13 years because I was part time and there was teamster strike. I was admin and non-union but after 4 weeks of the management trying to keep us busy they had to lay us off. I was making $13 and hour. I needed full time work and there was naturally a freeze on any kind of job change. I left and I never recovered to that level of buying power with the benefits I had there.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
September 30, 2018 10:41 pm

$13 in 1996 would be like $20+ today. With bennies, I have no beef payin that, which I do. But $8 for manufacturing? Man, the world is going to be a hard taskmaster.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Llpoh
September 30, 2018 10:25 pm

Omaha? Kansas City? St Louis? Des Moines? Just tryin to get to 400

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Mary Christine
September 30, 2018 10:43 pm

Mn and WI. I shoulda made that two posts!!!!

?

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
September 30, 2018 10:17 pm

Only 7 more and it’s400!

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Mary Christine
September 30, 2018 11:07 pm

People certainly have some strange obsessions.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Chubby Bubbles
September 30, 2018 11:42 pm

Just play along, Chuggy.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
September 30, 2018 11:41 pm

400, I win

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 22, 2018 3:09 pm

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