A Short Pictorial: Top 10 GREATEST Negotiations In HISTORY

I have spent over 100 hours of research and thought on this Labor of Love. It is a short list, for sure, due to time constraints and needing to go to the bathroom.  So, please, no criticisms — but, feel free to add your own candidates to this list, which will surely go viral.  Let’s get started …

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10) The Hammurabi Code

Hammurabi was a really cool dude who ruled a prosperous and thriving Babylonia around 1750BC.  His approximate 300 laws are the most well-preserved and comprehensive lists of ancient laws in existence today. Many of his laws were copied directly into the Old Testament!  According to one fragment Hammurabi stated his goal was — “… to make justice visible in the land, to destroy the wicked person and the evil-doer, that the strong might not injure the weak.” In other words, he was a Republican.  He also (really) came up with the “eye for an eye, and tooth for a tooth” law.  If he were alive today creatures knows as Pelosi and Feinstein would be blind and toothless (oh, wait ….).

9) Ramses II,  aka, Ramses The Great

Reigned for 67 years during the 12th century BC. Perhaps the greatest of Pharaohs as Egypt reached an overwhelming state of prosperity during his reign.  Egypt today is littered with his monuments. He is included here for one reason. According to this source; — “He was the first king in history to sign a peace treaty with his enemies, the Hittites, ending long years of wars and hostility. The treaty can still be considered a conclusive model, even when applying today’s standards.”   Actual part of the treaty in above pic.  Most people don’t know who the Hittites (pronounced “Hi Titties!”) were.  They were an annoying tribe who lived in what today is Turkey.  Yeah, even back then the Turks were assholes.

8) Save The Earth Treaties

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World leaders have signed about 500 internationally recognized agreements in the past 50 years! These include: 61 atmosphere-related; 155 biodiversity-related; 179 related to chemicals, hazardous substances and waste; 46 land conventions; and 196 conventions that are broadly related to issues dealing with water. The promises range from eliminating substances in the air to protect the ozone layer, to removing lead in fossil fuels, sharing genetic resources, protecting the Antarctic ice, reducing over-fishing, curbing water pollution and saving the almost extinct tiny Australian masturbating frog.  Now …. I’m not some stinking tree-hugging / whale-saving Earf-firster.  That’s my libtard seester.  However, the planet is not dead yet … so, I thought all these treaties deserve a mention.

7) Louisiana Purchase (1803)

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What did that deal accomplish?  Well, it DOUBLED the size of the Unites States …. for about 3 cents an acre.  Somewhere in France my counterpart, Monsieur StuchenMerde, is penning an article “Why are we French always such dumbfuks?

6) Indian Treaties — (this doesn’t belong here, but it’s my article so, go suck a peace pipe)

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We had a deal with Mexico, but we didn’t like it, so we broke it. We had a deal with Canada, but we didn’t like it, so we broke it. We had a deal with Iran, but we didn’t like it, so we broke it.  And all that since Trump has been in office.  And don’t give me any bullshit about those being bad treaties! Good vs bad isn’t the point.  The point is that America breaks treaties whenever it suits us to do so.  Not sure why any country would trust us to keep our word, on anything.  (Yes, I know other countries also break treaties. But … but … but I thought the USA!USA!USA! was different, the Shining City on the hill??).  Concerning the above picture, some say there were as few as only 300 treaties with Native Tribes. Regardless of the number of treaties, pretty much every web site I have ever checked (and I’ve done so before today) states that the USA has broken EVERY such treaty.  This is shameful.  On the bright side, we have never broken any treaties or promises to Israel. Clap. Clap. Clap.

5) The Treaty of Paris in 1783

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Q:  What ended the Revolutionary War?

A:  Look  at the above picture, dumbass!  It was the surrender of Cornwallis at Yorktown in 1781.

Wrong!!  It was the Treaty of Paris in 1783 (there were many other “Treaty of Paris” treaties). It is the oldest treaty signed by the United States still in effect today,  and officially ended the American Revolution,  and established the United States as a nation …..  which truly makes it one of the most consequential deals in world history …. but, of course, nowhere near as great as Number One (below).

BTW, the French and Spanish really wanted to screw America. Neither wanted the USA to make a separate peace with England.

The French wanted America to be a small and weak state between the Atlantic and Appalachians, with the British keeping the lands north of the Ohio River and the Spanish controlling a buffer state to the south.  Instead, the British decided that a strong and economically successful America was in their interests and against French interests and were convinced to give the new state all the land up to the Mississippi river as well as fishing rights in Canada.  Take that ya Frogs!!! This enabled the United States to later expand westward and become a major continental power. Years later the Frenchies, still pissed off, would give us a Statue Of Liberty — in hopes of destroying America via wacko, homeless, wretched-refuse immigrants.

Nice simple concise overview of the 1783 treaty here.

4) Treaty of Tordesillas (1494)

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Have you ever wondered why everything south of the Rio Grande is Spanish? Well, everything except Brazil and Uruguay, which is Portuguese. Have you wondered why Portugal has so many colonies in Africa, and Spain virtually none?

It all has to do with the Treaty of Tordesillas (the town where it was signed) in 1494.  So, the robber baron / terrorist known as Christopher Columbus returns from his travels and lets the Pope know  “There’s tons of GOLD, and SILVER, and BERYLLIUM there and only short naked people with bows and arrows are guarding it all!!”   The Pope gets himself a Holy Erection and and immediately draws an arbitrary meridian. Spain gets everything to the West, and Portugal everything to the East.

Without the treaty, Spain and Portugal would have spent resources fighting each other.  Instead, for the next 100 years (until the other European powers got on the gravy train)  they had a grand old time raping, pillaging, and destroying civilizations.  That treaty changed the landscape of the Western Hemisphere forever.

3)  God Gives Charlton Heston the Ten Commandments

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It’s only one of God’s greatest gifts to mankind.  God’s Post-It Notes on stone to let us know  very directly and specifically what we, as God’s children, should and should not do. We no longer have to wonder! It is the entire bedrock of Western civilization.  Yeah, God!!!!

2) Fred Trump Gets To Know (in a Biblical way) Mary Anne Macleod Trump.

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On September 14, 1945 Fred Trump negotiated a deal with Mary Anne to a fine evening of boinking (similar to Borking). Nine months later with the birth of Donald on  June 14, 1946,  the Biblical prophecy of Isaiah 9:6 was fulfilled!  — “For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful.”   If that’s not Donal Trump (especially the “Wonderful” part) then I don’t know what is. Furthermore, on January 20, 2017   the Lord God himself crowned Trump as our Savior by calling him — “the Trump of God”, which you can find somewhere in the book of Thessalonians.

1) AND THE YUGEST DEAL IN THE HISTORY OF CIVILIZATION???

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“… THE SINGLE GREATEST AGREEMENT EVER (!!!!) SIGNED.”  —- said Donald Trump on the USMCA (US-Mexico-Canada Agreement)

Trump, once again, leaves me speechless.

Author: Stucky

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Agnes
Agnes
October 2, 2018 3:51 pm

A marvelous subject and I wanted to beat Mary Christine to the first spot as soon as I saw you’d posted! and this guarantees lots of lame asshat comments from pathetic people with nothing better to do than sniff around trying to find some comment I made. LOL… let the games begin. (But, without me… I have learned how to “block” the asshats.)

Okay, you started off great and when I saw the Louisiana Purchase I said to self, “Self, this is a freaking great list!”

I personally think the Louisiana Purchase was Jefferson’s greatest achievement as President. It got the French out of the Mississippi River basin, for which I’m really grateful. Cape Girardeau was actually a French settlement fighting for its survival amongst the natives (who didn’t realize it was being bought and sold out from under their feet.)

As for the treaties with the Native Americans? well, I don’t know if you ever watched any of Eddie Izzard’s executive transsexual routines, but he does a bit on the lack of flags that is really funny.

The old treaties are interesting to contemplate, especially those written on stone with Hieroglyphics. That’s some real dedication to scribing there, isn’t it? In junior high I made a clay tablet, used a variety of screwdrivers to write a message in the clay and turned it in as my “history” project, claiming it was a replica of a message sent from some pharaoh to another pharaoh. I got an A, but I seriously think the teacher was an idiot. Especially when I told him the Phillips head screwdriver symbol represented the sun. He either bought it or didn’t care. Perhaps didn’t care.

But, when I got to the ten commandments, I wondered if you were setting me up for something and sure enough! You TRUMPED me on the last two.

My vote, by the way? The Monroe Doctrine declared the Western Hemisphere as being the United States sphere of interest, warning Europe to stay on their side of the Atlantic. I think it deserves an honorable mention. After all, it was a very Trumplike thing for a president to mention while addressing Congress. Or, should I write Congreff. They didnt’ know about esses then.

Agnes
Agnes
  Stucky
October 2, 2018 4:53 pm

Neither do I. By the way, the little goat once known as Stuckenheimer here (who would NOT stay off his sister) now lives on a farm a mile down the (no shit!) gravel road. The woman there heard about his upcoming roast (not the funny kind) and offered to take him on as a friend to her buck (he would have to lose the nuts). I agreed, she came and got him and off they went. I stopped by today to see her on my way to get wound dressings (October 19 is the suture appointment… doctor doesn’t want to have to reopen again.)

She fell in love with Stuckenheimer and bought him a pygmy mate. And, she is giving me one of her first female offspring from her Nigerian Dwarf dam. (That’s 6% butterfat and you won’t get that from a Jersey cow on most days!)

So, the little goat who didn’t really belong (his testes were undescended so the mother refused to nurse him. He was bottle fed by children and treated like a puppy. I got him at around three months. His testicles had descended at a couple weeks, but too late. So, as soon as he began to go through puberty, well, old Simon smelled him and hated him. Mother didn’t recognize him and the sister was getting fat on mother’s milk, but I was sick and didn’t have time to start milking her. Especially with Simon being jealous of any attention or food to anyone but him.

(Simon hates everyone, by the way. The feeling is mutual. My son saw him raping the mother goat and asked me if he can be the one to kill him by kicking him in the head. Simon is one gorgeous pedigreed pygmy who is giving me one more litter then hitting the roasting pit. Bastard.)

So, as it ends up, Stuckenheimer goat has relocated northwest of my little piece of podunk about a mile and will be breeding goats for a country gal named Sandy, who retired early to move here and is also planning to milk all her goats and make good cheese. Life is really fascinating. I felt like I met me.

Back to negotiating. Which I am pretty good at, by the way. It was the union negotiations that got the company’s eye on me before I got suspended as a union steward. I ran a propaganda campaign in my “shop” (we wrote training materials for AWACS… shop, my ass!) and by the time negotiations were over the company was begging to give us even more money and benefits. They hated me. Sigh. It is contagious.

Wink.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Agnes
October 2, 2018 6:50 pm

I’m always looking for goat cheese that doesn’t taste goaty

Agnes
Agnes
  Mary Christine
October 2, 2018 7:21 pm

The Nigerian Dwarf cheese (and milk) is really good. It doesn’t have that aftertaste that makes you go… hmmm, what is that?

My Bessie is a Nigerian Dwarf/Pygmy hybrid. I don’t know what her milk tastes like but little Nellie is one fat little gal who needs to be weaned. But, until I can get in there without having to fight Simon, she can keep on nursing. LOL… won’t hurt any of us one bit.

JimmyTorpedo
JimmyTorpedo
  Mary Christine
October 3, 2018 8:24 am

If you don’t have a billy on the property all your goat milk tastes better. That billy goat stink gets into everything.

Agnes
Agnes
  JimmyTorpedo
October 3, 2018 8:29 am

No kidding? I didn’t realize that was part of the taste issue. Thanks.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Agnes
October 2, 2018 4:28 pm

Off-topic, but in a comment of yours you mentioned an organization called “Family of Families”. It piqued my curiosity, but I was unable to find anything about it on the search engine (NOT Goo…) and would be grateful if you could direct me to info. Thanks!

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Agnes
October 2, 2018 6:31 pm

Damn. I had a dentist appointment this afternoon and had to drive into the city. I’m still there and its rush hour so dinner in the city.

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
October 2, 2018 4:07 pm

Stucky, you’re still butthurt, ain’t ya ?

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
  Stucky
October 2, 2018 5:08 pm

I sense some liberalism in your write-up. Maybe I’m wrong….

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  gatsby1219
October 2, 2018 6:09 pm

He just wears the pantyhose to keep warm. Sheesh.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
  EL Coyote
October 2, 2018 8:29 pm

That don’t explain the lipstick.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  WestcoastDeplorable
October 3, 2018 12:29 am

You never know when you’ll be on tv, don’t want to appear too pasty faced.

Rather, Not
Rather, Not
October 2, 2018 4:43 pm

From a negotiation perspective, it was an impressive accomplishment. The NAFTA deal was bad…the other participants could sell access to our markets to their benefit. CA and Mex could do great for themselves trade deals, and the people they signed with could get into the US tariff free. The status quo ante was to both their benefit, so tanking the deal and keeping it in place should have been the expected outcome. And Trump’s trade team did something materially better.

The fact that we can now block CA/MX from doing ‘good for them/bad for US’ trade deals is a HUGE win. The fact that we got that, and then also increased the costs of operating in Mexico (reducing the movement of our factories there) and getting rid of a bunch of special protectionist exemptions for Canada was a truly impressive accomplishment. NAFTA wasn’t much of a free trade deal when American farmers couldn’t even sell milk to Canada.

Honest Buck
Honest Buck
  Rather, Not
October 2, 2018 5:04 pm

Supported by 5 US presidents and then Ross Perot’s giant sucking sound of jobs moving to Mexico over 25 years. Now Trump tears up the contract and makes a new one in less than two years in office? Not bad.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Honest Buck
October 2, 2018 6:46 pm

Hey, Bucky, Perot said the jobs were moving to China, not Mexico. But yeah, it’s globalism at work. Damn Capitalists always looking for cheaper labor costs.

Kinda like the Patriot Act, they wrote that one up in a hurry, Jefferson was a sloth compared to the neocons.

Undebatable
Undebatable
  EL Coyote
October 2, 2018 7:13 pm

Actually, EC, Buck was being honest:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_sucking_sound

The phrase, which Perot coined during the 1992 US presidential campaign, referred to the sound of US jobs heading south for Mexico should the NAFTA, the proposed so-called free-trade agreement, go into effect.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Undebatable
October 3, 2018 12:28 am

Stop confusing me with the facts.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Undebatable
October 3, 2018 9:09 am

Jobs going to China was the giant flushing sound.

Luminae
Luminae
  Anonymous
October 3, 2018 9:09 am

That be me.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  EL Coyote
October 2, 2018 8:34 pm

PNAC had “The Patriot Act” written up long before 9/11. That event was just a PART of their plan, but most people don’t see forest for the trees. Search for what Gen Wes Clark learned when he visited his buddy at the Pentagon post retirement. Cheney is a big part of it.

StackingStock
StackingStock
  Anonymous
October 3, 2018 7:29 am

Dr Ron Paul ( yes a real fucking Doctor) said the Patriot Act was made at least six months before the final scene.

Agnes
Agnes
  StackingStock
October 3, 2018 8:00 am

I think it was in the works for years… just like Obamacare got started under Bill Clinton’s committee on healthcare reform… assigned to his “co-president” wife Hillary.

All of this has been in the “plan” for decades.

Rather, Not
Rather, Not
  Stucky
October 3, 2018 12:19 pm

I think the question of how much better is a legitimate one. I think pretty materially, it eliminated what should have been a fatal flaw to the US signing the original. Maybe not better enough to get all the way to good or great, but what is impressive about his team’s negotiation here is that all Canada and Mexico really had to do was say ‘no deal, we’ll keep it as is, favorable to us’

That has worked on every Admin since signing. It didn’t work on Trump, he and his team found a way to break that logjam. The fact that Canada and Mexico could, and did, essentially sell tariff free access to the US market to China and Europe to get good terms on what they cared about has been a long problem. It wasn’t Mexicans building all those factories just across the border sucking our jobs away.

The answer to your question of whether the increase in debt is impressive, the answer is also yes. Not good, but impressive. It is part and parcel to what and who Trump is…he, like alinsky advises, steals the effective tactics of the enemy. Economically, very bad. Politically very good.

The Dems have long played the ‘We give you free stuff, the R’s throw grandma off a cliff’ and it worked for them. He isn’t going to the butt of their strategy, so instead of giving away the stuff D’s want to give away to people D’s want to give it to, he’s giving things R would prefer to give away to people R’s would prefer to give it to.

Economically, stand alone, quite bad. Politically, quite good. As two aspects of an even bigger package deal, yet to be determined. Whether the economically bad aspects of big gov’t welfare to R constituencies is worse than the positive impacts of better trade deals, onshoring jobs, regulatory cuts and tax cuts…we shall see.

Pretty much the first time we’re running this test in modern times.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
  Rather, Not
October 2, 2018 8:32 pm

We got fucked on all these trade deals, but the worst that actually happened was inviting China into the WTO. That gave them access to a whole buncha Western world shit the Chinks had been drooling over. Their plan is world dominance by 2049. We need to trim their wings back to about 1920. And to do it we should be making nice to Russia as our ally against them, not as our enemy with them.

Luminae
Luminae
  WestcoastDeplorable
October 3, 2018 9:13 am

Deep State hasn’t figured that out yet.

Llpoh
Llpoh
October 2, 2018 5:11 pm

The greatest negotiation ever was getting agreement on the Constitution. End of debate.

Thanks Stuck. Good stuff.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Stucky
October 2, 2018 6:13 pm

Wow. TBP was rough back then.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Stucky
October 2, 2018 6:38 pm

Soooooo kinda like it is today? I keep waiting for somebody to start beating someone else with a cane. Oh that’s right no one carries canes anymore.
Maybe Feinslime will beat Grassley with her purse.

BB
BB
October 2, 2018 5:13 pm

All of those are very important in their own way but now that I have discovered the earth is Flat and Outer space is a lie ….well I is dumbfounded. I think everyone should look at the evidence for a flat Earth. I’m also dumbfounding about the Baphomet.( The God these Freemasons worship )
Check out Methodical Deception on YouTube about 9/11
Also The Genesis 6 Conspiracy .
Stucky I understand your post has nothing to do with these topics but check them out anyway when you have time.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
October 2, 2018 6:06 pm

Worst agreement ever?

No visible nipples on TBP.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Francis Marion
October 2, 2018 6:11 pm

TBP is male, no nipples there.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
October 2, 2018 6:07 pm

I was gonna say the Alaska purchase but I read they still haven’t broke even on that deal.
At least we have Sarah Palin, that’s good, no?

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
October 2, 2018 6:09 pm

BTW – from what I can tell, with regards to USMCA, Trump just achieved manifest destiny. I’m going to read it through closer in the next week or so but from what I can see he has all but guaranteed the eventual integration of Canadastan into the American empire. The foundation was laid in this agreement. More on that later.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Francis Marion
October 2, 2018 8:34 pm

We’ll take Faith Goldy.

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
  Francis Marion
October 2, 2018 9:26 pm

Francis,Don’t particularly want the Indians and Nigerians. We have enough of that crap now.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Overthecliff
October 2, 2018 11:37 pm

Ya but you get me. So there’s that.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
October 2, 2018 6:48 pm

If you don’t stop doggin on the French I’m going to have to leave TBP forever..until later..or maybe tomorrow.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Mary Christine
October 2, 2018 6:54 pm

I was wondering if the 3 cents per acre was in 1805 pennies. If so, what else could you buy for 3 cents back then?

Agnes
Agnes
  Mary Christine
October 2, 2018 7:33 pm

Oops. Sorry. I didn’t know. Sorry about the Cape Girardeau remark. LOL

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Agnes
October 3, 2018 9:04 am

I was kidding. See how hard it is to tell when someone is just joking around?
I do think I need to post the “Monty Python French guard who is taunting the English” scene. It’s classic.
Maybe I should research all the good things that have come out of France and post it. Probably would only take me 10 minutes ?

The other Mary Christine
The other Mary Christine
  Mary Christine
October 3, 2018 2:44 pm

This one?

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  The other Mary Christine
October 3, 2018 3:20 pm

LOL! Yes, classic!

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
October 2, 2018 7:13 pm

Off topic a bit but since this is my last day of a 10 year probation I will indulge in a bit of fantasy from the mind of a 6 year old. And it is related to Ramses. And related to the Ten Commandments. And it is the month of Halloween Hauntings.

It was 1954 or so and I lived on Limestone AFB renamed Loring AFB after some pilot hero who won a Medal of Honor in the Korean War. . My brain had not been polluted by non stop television or viddy games except a few wrestling shows my mother watched in Ft. Worth. I recall when dad brought home of those contraptions into the base house assigned to us. No such thing as children’s programming. The first tv cartoon I recall was a few years later in Puerto Rico and it was in Spanish and held no interest to me. The only show in Maine I can remember was a black and white drama titled The Monkey’s Paw. Our family sat around the tv one cold night watching as freezing winds blew outside. The plot was incomprehensible to my child’s mind. I recall a sense of something bad coming from the monkey’s paw. [The supernatural story is about a monkey’s paw that grants three wishes and the horror of having wishes come true in perverse ways]

As we lived near the Canadian border we frequently took sojourns there. Niagara Falls a favorite. Prince Edwards Island another where we dug for clams. We ate lots of lobsta’s. There was a museum very close to the Falls. I recall going there with my mother, brothers and other AF brats. Back then kids need not be hovered over and we had freedom to roam about the museum at will. So it was I was exploring the multi story building alone. I was joined by a boy who asked if I would be his friend. He was haggard looking, sickly is how I described him later on. I asked how old he was and I recall him saying he was 9, the age of my older brother but no where as healthy appearing as my stocky brother. The stranger was about my size and dressed plainly, in a dingy looking t-shirt. I first had an aversion to him however he pestered and pestered me to be his friend. Finally I relented and granted him friend status, meaning I would trust him and follow him. He took me to an Egyptian mummy, enclosed in a glass or maybe plastic case. On the second floor I think. It was all dried brown skin covering the skeleton and macabre skull. My new friend directed me to reach around the back of the case and place my hand inside and told me to touch the mummy’s hand. And I did. It was nothing special to me, I simply complied with his request out of ‘friendship’.

I do not recall what happened after that very clearly. I recall being very tired as I searched for my mother. After some time I finally found her and the others in the group. And my mom was upset at me. She scolded me, rather uncharacteristically. She demanded to know where I had been. I gave my honest explanation of seemingly innocent activities. I did not understand why I was in trouble. I told her about the ‘friend’ and how he showed me how to touch the mummy. I probably excitedly showed her the mummy and tried to reach my hand inside the case as I had done earlier but to my surprise I could not penetrate the enclosure. And I told her about the pesky friend.

The next day my father took me to talk to a man at some office type building. Dad told me to tell the man the truth and explain what had happened. So I told the story as it happened. I recanted my story. He asked me what the boy was wearing and to describe him. So I did. His reported age etc. When he was finished talking to me I added the fact that I thought he looked very sickly. The ‘friend’ evoked a sense of sympathy from me because of his appearance.

My father told me if I ever saw the friend again to tell him I was forbidden to talk to him. He did appear to me once more though I cannot recall the circumstance. I flatly told him I could not be his friend nor talk to him. And that was that.

In 1999 my alma mater Emory University acquired the collection of Egyptian artifacts and art from the Niagara Falls Museum. The mummy in my story evidently is Ramses (Ramesses) I, the founder of the famous line that included Seti I and Ramesses II (The Great).

The mummy has been repatriated back to Egypt.

You can imagine my piqued curiosity when I read about the revelations in my alumnus magazine and subsequent stories about the mummy.

I add that when I first saw the movie Lord of the Rings the Gollum character reminded me of my sickly friend, although the Gollum character is an exaggerated version of my childhood memory.

The 1956 motion picture The Ten Commandments, directed by Cecil B. DeMille, depicts Rameses I (portrayed by Ian Keith) as the pharaoh who orders the elimination of the first-born of every Hebrew slave family in Egypt, leading to the scenario of future prophet Moses being sheltered by Bithiah, who in the film is said to be the daughter of Rameses I and sister of Seti I.
Originally called Pa-ra-mes-su, Ramesses I was of non-royal birth, being born into a noble military family from the Nile delta region, perhaps near the former Hyksos capital of Avaris. He was a son of a troop commander called Seti. His uncle Khaemwaset, an army officer, married Tamwadjesy, the matron of the Harem of Amun, who was a relative of Huy, the viceroy of Kush, an important state post.[4] This shows the high status of Ramesses’ family. Ramesses I found favor with Horemheb, the last pharaoh of the tumultuous Eighteenth dynasty, who appointed the former as his Vizier. Ramesses also served as the High Priest of Set[5] – as such, he would have played an important role in the restoration of the old religion following the Amarna heresy of a generation earlier, under Akhenaten.

Rediscovery and repatriation

A mummy currently believed to be that of Ramesses I was stolen from Egypt and displayed in a Canadian museum for many years before being repatriated. The mummy’s identity cannot be conclusively determined, but is most likely to be that of Ramesses I based on CT scans, X-rays, skull measurements and radio-carbon dating tests by researchers at Emory University, as well as aesthetic interpretations of family resemblance. Moreover, the mummy’s arms were found crossed high across his chest which was a position reserved solely for Egyptian royalty until 600 BC.[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses_I

Agnes
Agnes
  KeyserSusie
October 2, 2018 7:36 pm

Interesting story, but I gotta know:

Ten years probations for what?

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Agnes
October 2, 2018 8:17 pm

I have not been at liberty to tell the story because of the gag order placed on my by the judge. I have wanted to tell the story for a long time. Time will tell soon. It has the makings of a good movie.

Agnes
Agnes
  KeyserSusie
October 2, 2018 10:43 pm

Okay, Whosie Susie! haha… you really are worse than me at times. Your probation and my bizarre medical condition… a potential whodunit medical mystery.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Agnes
October 3, 2018 1:26 am

says mags no longer in rags.

Agnes
Agnes
  KeyserSusie
October 3, 2018 2:03 am

Just an aside, but what do you think about the Led Zeppelin/Spirit guitar riff controversy? Do you know enough about musical chords to see that a chord progression that is similar is not something that can be copyrighted?

What I find most fascinating is that the lawsuit is brought by the ESTATE of the deceased song writer of Spirit. Since Spirit wrote their song in 1968 and Stairway to Heaven came out in 1971ish? and they toured together!, I imagine Spirit’s songwriters had heard Stairway and didn’t sue. Yet, here we are with the estate suing several times, appealing the loss and trying to rewrite history.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Agnes
October 3, 2018 6:35 am

I am not familiar with the dispute and lack any formal music understanding. But like Vanilla Ice and Under Pressure/Bowie. And Marvin Gaye and Robin Thicke. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Luminae
Luminae
  Agnes
October 3, 2018 9:27 am

It’s all about the $$$. Someone in the Randy California genetic lineage wants their pound of flesh.

SPIRIT was a great band with many albums only one of which was truly great: The Twelve Dreams of Sardonicus. If you’ve never listened to it, you need to. The song Nature’s Way came from it.

Zep on the other hand made more $$$ from Stairway than anything Spirit did.

Al
Al
  KeyserSusie
October 3, 2018 12:17 am

How could you of touched the mummy’s hand when it was folded across its chest?

Twilight zone

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Al
October 3, 2018 1:26 am

Easy Peasy, the hand was lateral to the thorax from the contralateral side. I coulda touched anywhere on the dang old corpse.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  KeyserSusie
October 3, 2018 2:17 am

So was the sickly fellow supposed to be a ghost or something?

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Vixen Vic
October 3, 2018 6:42 am

I supply no supposition to my story, only reportage as I remember it. Doubtless I would not remember any of it had I not been made to talk to a nice man about what caused my mother’s consternation. If I were to romanticize the story with conjecture I could come up with fanciful inventions. It remains a mystery to me as do many things in my life.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  KeyserSusie
October 3, 2018 7:45 am

Thanks, Keyser, for the reply. We don’t always know what we’ve encoumtered.

Robert Gore
Robert Gore
October 2, 2018 7:37 pm

An amusing and edifying article. I’ll post it tonight. Good job, Stucky.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Robert Gore
October 2, 2018 11:38 pm

TBP Master Level Trolling. Well done Robert. Well done.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Francis Marion
October 3, 2018 12:35 am

How can the great one object to that?

Robert Gore
Robert Gore
  Stucky
October 3, 2018 11:56 am

My pleasure.

RiNS
RiNS
  Robert Gore
October 3, 2018 1:13 pm

Geeze

Stucky and Gore kissing under the tree….. now if I could just get ol’ Bob to like me. Then I can then ready myself for that apocalypse that Pastor keeps pissing, fapping and moaning aboot.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Robert Gore
October 3, 2018 3:42 pm

What a disgusting display of civility.

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
October 2, 2018 9:32 pm

This article reminds me of the old Stucky. His mind has to be racing all the time.

Wip
Wip
October 2, 2018 9:46 pm

Please don’t tell me that blocking people is doable on this site.

True or not true?

Agnes
Agnes
  Wip
October 2, 2018 10:45 pm

Not true.

Unless you know a programmer who specializes in that sort of thing. Actually, specializes in isolating IP addresses to either gather data or to restrict input. It involves the Virtual Machine concept

Sometimes, when I ask my son if “something” I imagine can be done, he just flat out says NO. Then, his mind, being a combination of his father’s “never give up” and my creative “how might it be possible” along with a lot of the tricks he learned in Mordor gets him thinking and he comes along and grabs my laptop and says “I’m not promising anything Mom, but I think this might work.”

And, sometimes, it does. He got rid of the thumbs for me a few years ago but that laptop died at the age of 12! (We get our money’s worth out of laptops.) Actually, WIP, we get our money’s worth out of everything. Is why we retired before Nick was 60 and I was still a spry 53! In spite of my much advertised potential for drawing disability on your tax money, I’ve actually been both industrious and frugal all my life.

My boy is no genius, but he is smart and studious. Most importantly, he is stubborn and when I challenge him, he rarely backs down. His new employer is very lucky and I’ll hate having him more than two hours away by car. However, I will enjoy visiting Colorado with a legal resident there, if you know what I mean.

Now, about why I wanted the change? I just really got weary of the silliness. We are in a crisis in this country and I almost died in a gruesome way. I needed a new way of looking at the world.

TBP is a rare place where there is genuine intellectual discussion about issues. I regret creating a persona here named Maggie I’ve grown to dislike and I suppose I may have to reinvent yet again to continue to interact here, having proven McLuhan accurate many times over about mediums and messages.

Jimbo
Jimbo
October 2, 2018 9:55 pm

If you want a great refresher on NAFTA, and how much of a scumbag Algore is, watch the Larry King debate with Ross Perot from 1993. Amazing to watch in 2018.

Luminae
Luminae
  Jimbo
October 3, 2018 9:34 am

Don’t be so nice to Algore. Algore. Actually that would make a great dog’s name. Think of the possibilities…

On 2nd thought, nah. Inhumane treatment of an animal.

Rvrider
Rvrider
October 2, 2018 10:07 pm

Hey dumb shit — the Iranian “deal” was not a treaty, which requires the Senate to ratify. The deal was a desperate attempt to make the war monger, Obama, look like he Nobel Peace Prize made sense.

Findlay Austin
Findlay Austin
October 2, 2018 11:25 pm

Either heavy sarcasm or utter blasphemy.

BL
BL
October 2, 2018 11:41 pm

Stucky
That was a hoot while also educational(?) seriously, I laughed out loud a few times. Classic Stucky pictorial, that is why I LOVE this place. Well done.

Agnes
Agnes
  BL
October 3, 2018 12:16 am

I felt like he dropped a couple of monkey turds on us at the end. I was expecting some recent find in a cave in the Himalayas, guarded by Yeti and the aliens who live inside the moon. Instead, we got trumpdumped. Twice.

But, you are right BL… it really was classic Stucky and it inspires me to be better.

BL
BL
  Agnes
October 3, 2018 12:46 am

Maggie- Old Stuck inspires me all the time. He is the TBP version of Trump, completely irreverent. Unfortunately people don’t give me the license Stucky is afforded. I always enjoy a pictorial essay done in the style only Stucky does so well.

Agnes
Agnes
  BL
October 3, 2018 1:08 am

Bea, I apologize for being overly mean when I was sick, but I gotta tell ya, man. You do whine a bit too much when you get criticized. I, on the other hand, go ugly early and start picking fights. I got dragged out of more than one bar in my earlier life.

One time, I even ended up being hauled to the commander’s office by the arresting officer. That was early in my red rope career, when a visit to a local pub ended with me in a brawl in the bathroom with some local yokels. The policeman just happened to be a USAF TSgt who recognized me as one of the student leaders and hauled me away from the scene. See? Rank does indeed have its privilege and that shit starts really early, doesn’t it?

Hopefully, as time passes, this too shall as well.

BL
BL
  Agnes
October 3, 2018 8:54 am

Maggie- Now who would down a sincere apology?? Some asshat, (not me). We’re all good Maggie and I think the balance has returned to TBP. Stucky and HSF are back to writing along with Admin. so life is back to normal.

RiNS
RiNS
  Stucky
October 3, 2018 10:53 am

That was your first. I still remember that one. wow. I must be gettin’ old..

BL
BL
  Stucky
October 3, 2018 5:17 pm

Yes!!!! Holy Jeebus yes #2!!!!! Thanks Stucky, I sincerely love your work here. I remember castles and sort of remember the bridges…..hey, repost it with a update sometime.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 3, 2018 12:10 am

I’m not buying the 100 hours of research. Just sayin’

Hardhead
Hardhead
October 3, 2018 12:21 am

Just for accuracy-The Iran deal was not a treaty! It was never presented to Congress or ratified by Congress. Just some crazy deal between Obozo and the Mullahs

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
October 3, 2018 2:00 am

You definitely have a way with words, Stucky. Great article.

By the way, has Trump finally allowed his hair to go back to a normal color – gray?

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 3, 2018 10:13 am

Hey StuchenMeister

I have a couple but will start with this one.

11) The Magna Carta

from wikipedia:

Magna Carta Libertatum (Medieval Latin for “the Great Charter of the Liberties”), commonly called Magna Carta (also Magna Charta; “Great Charter”),[a] is a charter of rights agreed to by King John of England at Runnymede, near Windsor, on 15 June 1215.[b] First drafted by the Archbishop of Canterbury to make peace between the unpopular King and a group of rebel barons, it promised the protection of church rights, protection for the barons from illegal imprisonment, access to swift justice, and limitations on feudal payments to the Crown, to be implemented through a council of 25 barons.

This is the best part…..

Neither side stood behind their commitments, and the charter was annulled by Pope Innocent III, leading to the First Barons’ War.

So all our rights are based on a document signed because a bunch of uppity Barons who were tired of getting fucked over by King John and his band of crooked Sheriffs. None of them gave two shits about the peons..

And the icing on this flaming turd is that
the Politicians then had no intention living up to terms.
Some things nevah change
No wonder this world is fucked

The Greatest Document of Law in English World…

Yours with the Blessings of Odin,

RiNS

D'Agnes
D'Agnes
  Anonymous
October 3, 2018 11:37 am

RinSey is channeling Stuck!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
October 3, 2018 11:31 am

Come on, Stuck! I’m trying to keep my breakfast down, and then comes this comment, that triggers a repulsive visual of the odd couple doing vile, filthy things together.
No , there would be something wrong with that.
Damn. Did Dennis Rodman act like Heidi Fleiss?
Say it ain’t so, bro.

D'Agnes
D'Agnes
  Stucky
October 3, 2018 11:34 am

There is something unconvincing about her smile in her eyes. Although who doesn’t have fun handling a pickaninny?

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  D'Agnes
October 3, 2018 1:03 pm

She has too much makeup on, look at her arm and hand and compare. She has been hanging around the Donald too long.
In the first pic she looks beautiful but angry.

BL
BL
  D'Agnes
October 3, 2018 5:29 pm

D’ Aggie, now that was funny! 🙂

D'Agnes
D'Agnes
  BL
October 3, 2018 5:42 pm

Thanks, Bea. I try but I hardly get any recognition here. Certainly not from ex-Waffle.

RiNS
RiNS
  Stucky
October 3, 2018 1:54 pm

That kid doesn’t look very happy.

Miles Long
Miles Long
  RiNS
October 3, 2018 2:52 pm

What’s to be happy about? The shithole gub’mint cheese was moldy.

BL
BL
  Stucky
October 3, 2018 5:27 pm

I have read some articles that implied DT was light in the loafers, I don’t know if that is true but I am sure Melania is not fond of the Cheeto. She is not comfortable in her role as first lady. She looks nice so I’ll leave it at that.

D'Agnes
D'Agnes
  BL
October 3, 2018 5:45 pm

If that were so, I’d be paying women to do an expose of my private parts. Have everybody reading with lurid interest about my attributes (Stormy Daniels ring a bell clapper?) and techniques. It ain’t just Yobe that likes to read about how peeps think he’s a woman.

RiNS
RiNS
  Stucky
October 3, 2018 12:59 pm

And here she is worried about supposed violations of INF treaty when Russians have capability and means to hit every square inch of North America with missiles.

As if any of this really matters.

And who really gives two fucks about Europe. It’s lost cause and Russians would be doing the world a favour leveling the place for a do over..

Here are latest Russian swords for the symphony…

SS-NX-30 or SS-N-32 Bulava

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSM-56_Bulava

Those are way moar dangerous than those intermediate range weapons that cunt is pissing in her soup about..Of course they still have the tried and true SS-18, aptly named Satan that carry a single warhead of up to 20 MT or up to 10 smaller MIRV’s.

http://www.military-today.com/missiles/ss18_satan.htm

Whatta fucken insufferable twat….And this is what passes for diplomacy these days. No wonder many nations are running to exists and dumping the Petrodollar supporting this continued insanity…

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Stucky
October 3, 2018 1:08 pm

Wasn’t she the former governor of Texas, and rather corrupt or am I thinking of someone else?

Anyway, all the distractions here keep us from seeing what is going on over there, Syria in particular.

” The US has started a media murmur campaign, citing official sources, both named and unnamed, that the US is considering taking its embargo regime against Russia, which it misclassifies as ‘sanctions’, and ramping that up into a physical military blockade of Russian ports and underwater pipelines.

The proposal to impose a “naval blockade” on Russia by US Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke would make it impossible to supply Russian fuel to the Middle East. An Austrian media columnist, in Contra Magazine, warned that the measure could lead to military clashes at sea.

According to journalist Marco Maier, it would be unlikely that Moscow would not respond to the blockade, since the Russian military would escort the oil tankers, which would cause maritime fighting.”

https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/10/major-u-s-threats-of-anti-russia-naval-blockade-spells-war/

nkit
nkit
  Stucky
October 3, 2018 2:44 pm

As well as the voting privileges of New Jerseyans. Menendez, Booker, Corzine, Norcross, Pallone……

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Stucky
October 3, 2018 1:10 pm

And there is this, too:
“Tel Aviv is trying to belittle the importance of the S-300 air defense system based on the characteristics of the F-22 and F-35 fighters, inoSMI reports.

However, Munazir Eid, a columnist for the Syrian daily Thawra, believes that the presence of these missiles in Syria’s anti-aircraft defense system will help deter Israeli aggression and serve as a “belt” against that state.

In addition, the system will have an impact on how Israel will behave in the region in the future.

According to Eid, since Russia’s announcement on Syria’s supply of S-300 systems, the Zionist movement has continued to warn Syria that it will continue its aggression against Syria and threaten attacks against the air defense system.”

https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/10/syrias-new-s-300-are-a-belt-against-israel/

Is your bunker ready?

D'Agnes
D'Agnes
  Mary Christine
October 3, 2018 1:38 pm

Don’t worry, Uncle Donny will send a tweet to your cell phone 30 minutes prior to any bomb headed to your vicinity. Amazing how limber you become when you have to kiss your ass goodbye.

RiNS
RiNS
  Mary Christine
October 3, 2018 1:47 pm

Impact on the region. How about impact on the world.

The Syrians will now know when every airplane in Israel takes to the sky. Damascus is not that far as the crow flies from Tel Aviv. And here this goyim though all Jews were smart. Netanyahu really shit the bed poking the bear..

Worse for the West, Assad Regime will be able to test different bands and find out exactly which ones are most effective.. Count on the Russians and Iranians being very interested in this real world test and getting all the info. Seeing as all this was likely paid in full by them anyways….

Soon enough the F-35, which is barely stealthy as it is, will be just another bird in the sky.

And a Trillion dollars goes swoosh and down the shitter…
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Count on light traffic at border once they decide where it will be….

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  RiNS
October 3, 2018 6:18 pm

RiNs said “And here this goyim though all Jews were smart. Netanyahu really shit the bed poking the bear..”

I think he maybe got too cocky. Was that a poor choice of words or what?

RiNS
RiNS
October 3, 2018 6:30 pm

12) Viktor Leonov Negotiations With Japanese

Art of the Deal, Sprinkled With Russian Dressing
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Ed:

And these are type of folks US Ambassador to NATO, Kay Bailey Hutchinson is itching to pick a fight with…
This can’t end well but as they say on with the yarn…

taken from website

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/leonov.html

Viktor Leonov was born in Zaraisk, USSR in 1916. He enlisted in the Soviet Navy in 1937 as an enlisted man, but clawed his way up through the ranks, and by the time World War II really got going he had already been promoted from Private (Seaman?) to Lieutenant, and was attached to the 181st Special Recon Detachment of the Soviet Navy – a special unit designed specifically to carry out balls-to-the-wall commando raids aimed at tearing the Germans’ balls off in lightning-quick Paddy Mayne-style night raids, crippling their war effort, and then peeling out of there on jetskis or rowboats or some shit before anybody could figure out what the fuck had just blitzed into their base, set everything on fire, and drove a railroad spike through your commanding officer’s brain by stabbing it at him like an icepick.

Throughout 1941, Lieutenant Leonov single-handedly commanded dozens of what-the-fuck insane raids on enemy bases along the Russian and Finnish coastlines, running chest-deep through the testicle-petrifying frigid temperatures of the Baltic Sea, blazing his submachine guns like a goddamned maniac, and wiping out all in his path in a tremendous frenzy of destruction that sort of resembled the first level of Wolfenstein 3D. Deploying by inflatable raft, torpedo boat, submarine, and parachute, this unstoppable motherfucker obliterated communications centers, ammunition depots, AA guns, and other strongpoints in the Arctic Circle, monitored enemy ship movements and captured/interrogated/dickpunched enemies along the Black Sea, and once coordinated with Norwegian commandos on a mission that wiped out a motor transport depot, killed 100 of the enemy, destroyed 25 trucks, and ignited untold quantities of fuel without suffering a single friendly casualty.

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Leonov survived literally hundreds of ultra-dangerous missions and operations during four years of near-constant battle, but his most famous raid against the diabolical forces of European Fascism came in October of 1944. The Mad Russian’s Naval Spetsnaz unit had been ordered to silence four massive 155mm coastal defense guns that had been kicking the shit out of anything the Russians tried to stick in Cape Krestovyi – certainly no easy task, considering that these motherfuckers were locked-and-loaded to blast the shit out of anything in the water that had the audacity not to fly a flag sporting a giant swastika, and they were supported by enough anti-aircraft weaponry that any paratrooper operation was going to be about as much fun as trying to deathmatch an Elder Dragon with a number two pencil.

But Leonov wasn’t about to be deterred. Instead of trying the frontal approach, he did something even more insane – he landed his troops several miles up the coast, somehow force-marched a team of about 100 commandos a half-dozen miles deep behind enemy lines without anybody noticing, and ambushed an 88mm flak cannon position that just so happened to be strategically positioned right near the 155mm guns. The Spetsnaz captured the 20-man artillery unit, had them call for reinforcements, and then when the reinforcements showed up Leonov lowered the guns and plowed them into a crater with heavy artillery. He then immediately attacked the 155s, capturing 60 men (including the commanding officer) without so much as firing a shot. This unbelievable asskicking helped the Soviets land in Finland, and earned Leonov his first Gold Star of the Hero of the Soviet Union — the highest award for military bravery the USSR had to offer.
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Leonov was also awesome because he didn’t buy in to all that political bullshit. When his unit was assigned political commisars (propaganda officers whose sole job was to make sure the soldiers all remained good little Communists), Leonov rounded them all up and gave them two options – fight or quit. He had no use for them otherwise.

After the fall of Berlin, Viktor Leonov still wasn’t done kicking the shit out of people, so he transferred to the Pacific front so he could unleash his badassitude on the Japanese. His most famous operation there was the aforementioned capture of the airfield – one of the most straight-up balla things I think I’ve ever heard.

Rather than leading this operation, Leonov was serving under a Captain, who had his 140-man team parachute into what was supposed to be a lightly-defended airfield. However, once the men hit the ground and started taking fire, they realized that this was no lightly defended bullshit, and that they were now staring at something on the order of 3,500 Japanese rifles aimed at their heads. Leonov’s commander surrendered, and the ten Spetsnaz officers were taken into the Japanese HQ to meet with the garrison commander.

The Russians immediately demanded his surrender.

The Japanese dude was obviously like, “what the fuck is wrong with you assholes,” and right in the middle of the negotiation (and I think I am using the word “negotiation” pretty liberally here) Viktor Leonov suddenly out of nowhere got super pissed, slammed his fist down on the table, and shouted, “We’ve been fighting in the West throughout the war and we have enough experience to assess our situation. We will not allow ourselves to be taken hostage! You will die like rats when we break out of here!” Then one of his men pulled out a grenade and threatened to frag the entire room.

The Japanese surrendered.
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The only time Russians look happy is when they are executing a bayonet charge,
and only then because it’s super fucking unnerving.

Leonov received his second HSU in September 45, after leading his men on successful raids that captured no fewer than four Japanese ports along the Korean and Manchurian coastlines. During his daring operations against the Japanese, he lost a grand total of nine soldiers. Seven of them died parachuting into that airfield I just talked about.

Leonov retired after the war, wrote a suitably-badass book about his experiences, and was held up by the government as a model of Russian Naval badassitude throughout the lifespan of the Soviet Union. Tragically, he fell out of favor after the collapse of the USSR, and when he died in 2003 his death was not even mentioned in the newspaper (perhaps even more horrifically, as of the time of this writing he doesn’t even have a Wikipedia article). Nowadays I think there’s a Gundam character named after him or something, so I guess that’s a small consolation.
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He apparently only retired because there was no more room on his chest for any more medals.

Llpoh
Llpoh
October 3, 2018 7:25 pm

Reading through the comments, it is clear you fucking monkeys have the attention span of a goddamn goldfish. I mean, there are what, three comments about the article, and the rest about cutting nuts off of goats and such. It is as bad as the time the discussion morphed to bat guano in about two comments.

For fuck dake, get with the program. At least Stuck has me to keep the comments on topic.

Speaking of topic, where the hell are you, Star? I am kicking your ass on the Musk thread. Come on out, you pussy!

BL
BL
  Llpoh
October 3, 2018 7:33 pm

Loopey-After your brilliant oration in this thread, there was nothing left of which we morans could comment upon. In order to have a thread some chose a discussion of nuts.

RiNS
RiNS
  Llpoh
October 3, 2018 7:49 pm

On to the Musk thread….

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Llpoh
October 3, 2018 9:04 pm

Show me the TBP rule where it says you have to stay on topic cuz I can’t find it anywheres.

RiNS
RiNS
  Mary Christine
October 4, 2018 8:43 am

it was sent out on second day of initiation..

I jest.

What lloph was getting at was folks need to stay on point. This initially was a place in interwebs that became popular because it was a place for engaged debate. Opposing sides going at each other vigorously and without regards to the niceties of feelings. It used to be a place to confront delusions and risk triggering cognitive dissonance. It makes a thread far moar interesting and worth reading. It is meant to help dumbfucks like me, dust themselves off and get back in the game..

It was the reason I came and then stayed in first place.
I loved the Raging Debate.
That is what it was…

Yeah the trolling did and still does, get outta hand by times.
Feelings got and get hurt. Sometimes it got a bit crazy.
But that is the point and message.
We are the medium.

At least that is how I see it…..

What makes this place great is its honesty. Not giving a nod and sharing cat videos.
If it devolves to be nothing moar than a fancied up twitter or facebook. Then what’s the point.

…. and my two cents!

D'Agnes (EC)
D'Agnes (EC)
  RiNS
October 4, 2018 9:29 am

Thanks for the reminder, RiNsE. That’s why I prefer to stay on the fluff pieces most of the time. Brush up on What TBP Means to Me. Admin has sort of changed the mission to adjust for the new dynamic, it isn’t just about debate anymore. He says it’s a mini-ZH, when ZH was actually intelligent discourse. I think I should go back and read it too. I doesn’t hurt to go back and read our Magna Carta.

RiNS
RiNS
  D'Agnes (EC)
October 4, 2018 9:50 am

yeah Varmit, you are probably right.

Can’t expect the goal posts to stay in same place. That is how things are in real world..Always evolving and nothing written in stone.

So a mini-ZH. Okay maybe that is fine too… Still it should matter that the Big Dogs drop by regularly to chuck in their two cents.

I can amuse myself and enjoy the inane.
Those guys notsomuch…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  D'Agnes (EC)
October 4, 2018 10:03 am

Indeed, ‘yote. And the commentary that followed, on What TBP Means to Me.

Likewise, Stucky’s 10 Rules for Newbs warrants an occasional repost, too.
Not for the BDR’s, but, well, for the uninitiated.

Disaster of the universe (MOU) hasn’t caught that one, I suspect.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  RiNS
October 4, 2018 9:57 am

+100
maybe going off topic, a comment should begin by stating that as the first sentence or intro.
Then the FB or Twatter like segue can be explored or ignored at will.
I’ve been guilty of veering off course a time or two. Al K. Haul may have been a factor.

Musta got lost.
-J.Geils

cheers

D'Agnes (EC)
D'Agnes (EC)
  Anonymous
October 4, 2018 10:23 am

Long time readers can usually anticipate a regular’s comment without a ‘surgeon general’s warning’. I mean, the serious stuff usually comes from the Big Dogs and the triumvirate of taste – HSF, Bob Gore and FM (along with Uncola). I have led the pack fighting for the trolls’ right to party, I took a lot of heat early on from a couple of the Big Dogs until Stucky decided I could have a table in the corner next to the bathroom.

RiNS
RiNS
  D'Agnes (EC)
October 4, 2018 10:26 am

Lucky you. I’m the guy that got stuck clearing tables…

D'Agnes (EC)
D'Agnes (EC)
  RiNS
October 4, 2018 10:44 am

I took the back entrance. Nice place you guys got here.