Well, Now We Know . . .

Dedicated to 22winfag

Guest Post by Eric Peters

Well, now we know… how much Uncle’s persecution of VW is costing us – on top of the billions it has already cost Volkswagen.

Are you ready, Freddie?

About seven miles per gallon.

That’s how much the mileage of a 2015 Jetta TDI droops after it gets “fixed” – a term also used by farmers and used in the same manner here as well.

The VWs in question – like young male calves – were not broken. “Fixing” is a euphemism for taking something away . . . .

In the case of the VWs, what’s being taken away – by those who brought their cars in for “fixing”- is their formerly exceptional fuel efficiency.

And now we know exactly how much of that has been lost.

Originally, a 2015 Jetta TDI carried a window sticker that read 30 city and 44 highway. Behold the new window sticker, affixed to literally legions of “fixed” and still brand-new 2015 and 2016 Jettas which never got sold :

29 city, 37 highway.

These Jettas (and Passats and other TDI-powered VWs) have been sitting idle since the “scandal” broke back in 2015 and are now being re-certified for sale. Part of that process includes updating the window stickers, on which is displayed the EPA’s city/highway mileage estimates.

Like the poor steer, post-“fixing,” these TDI VWs have lost something.

And it’s not a little something, either.

Individual owners of cars that escaped being corralled – and who brought their cars in for the same “fix” – no doubt noticed their cars no longer went as far on a gallon as they once did.

But it was all anecdotal.

Now, it’s official – in Uncle’s own hand, so to speak.

And it makes these cars a lot less appealing, since their “fixed” mileage is hardly much better than the mileage delivered by many gas-powered cars and a lot less than most current hybrid cars.

Which I’ve come to believe is exactly the point of all this.

It’s not the “cheating.”

That’s just the hysterical, deliberately exaggerated window dressing.

Before the “fix” – before the “cheating” scandal erupted like a triple Vesuvius, spraying lava not just all over VW but also over diesels in general – diesels had been making a comeback.

And that was a problem.

VW – and not just VW – had been successfully marketing diesel-powered passenger cars for the first time since the ’70s. The ’70s diesel rep for being slow – and smelly – had been dissipated by the new-generation of quiet, smooth – and not slow – turbo-diesels, which were also extremely fuel efficient and clean-burning.

Have you ever seen black, sooty smoke coming out of the tailpipe of a late-model diesel,VW or otherwise?

Doubtful.

Because – even “unfixed” – modern diesel emissions are as close to nil as those of modern gas-engined cars.

Don’t take my word for it.

Look at the EPA’s “bins” and “tiers” – which is their almost-impenetrable way of categorizing allowable emissions levels. The difference between what was acceptable (and considered “clean”) circa 2000 and what is acceptable today is almost . . . vaporous, is the right word.

It’s a pedantic incremental/fractional always upticking – but one of very diminishing returns.

The “unfixed” – the “cheating” – cars emitted fractionally more oxides of nitrogen (NOx) emissions under certain government testing conditions, which VW adjusted its software (engine programming) to compensate for.

That’s all.

A small effect on emissions – but one that resulted (once “fixed”) in a huge effect on the mileage of these vehicles – which explains why VW “cheated.” For VW to take such an enormous risk – affronting Uncle – there had to be tremendous gains, in terms of what they could deliver customers.

And there were.

I’ve used the example of using a radar detector to avoid speed traps as an analogy. Certainly, VW “cheated” – in the same way that a radar detector helps a driver “cheat” a speed trap.

But back to the point of all this – the reason for the hysterical, exaggerated abuse leveled at VW out of all proportion to any tangible harm caused by their “cheating” – and the brutal effect of the “fix” applied to the “cheating” cars.

They were just too god-damned good for their own good. The latest escalation of “bins” and “tiers” was meant to make it impossible for diesels to be both compliant and fuel-efficient and affordable.

VW – to its credit – attempted to get around this vicious, evil business.

I test drove every TDI-powered car VW made, pre-“fix” – including the TDI-powered Jetta. It exceeded the EPA’s city/highway numbers, as people who own these cars will also tell you. I got better than 50 MPG on the highway out of them.

And you could buy one for about $22,000.

Well, you used to be able to.

VW doesn’t sell TDI-powered anything anymore – except for dealers unloading the backed-up inventory of “fixed” 2015 and 2016 cars, which have been “fixed” just as a steer is “fixed.”

There’s not much reason to buy one anymore – because these cars no longer deliver the huge mileage advantage vs. gas-powered cars that they used to deliver.

And that, dear reader, is the point of all of this.

To geld the resurgence of clean, efficient diesel-powered passenger cars – especially the affordable ones which VW uniquely specialized in.

These cars made hybrid and electric cars look bad.

Made them look stupid.

Excepting the virtue-signalers, who would choose to spend a couple thousand bucks more to buy a gas-electric hybrid that only had a slight mileage advantage? And who would spend $30,000-plus on an electric car with literally a third the range – that  also required its owner to wait for hours while its battery recovered charge – when he could have been hours down the road in his diesel-powered alternative?

Now, perhaps, you see.

And if you do, it all begins to make sense.

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Jim
Jim
October 4, 2018 1:57 pm

Just curious, is the author saying that there are discounted 2015-2016 “fixed” cars for sale at discounts or is he just lamenting the the difference in gas mileage. My daughter bought a Jetta last year and it gets really good gas mileage.

Wip
Wip
October 4, 2018 2:05 pm

If I buy one, how do I fix it back?

AC
AC
  Wip
October 4, 2018 3:06 pm

If VW has any sense, they would intentionally make their cars **easy** to mod. Someone might even accidentally leak the original firmware that both provides good performance and passes emission testing, so people could buy a VW diesel and then go home and unfix it with a USB stick.

It would improve sales.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Wip
October 4, 2018 4:21 pm

wipper,
your social credit score just went down,down,down–
however,if you “fix” yourself & promise to never ever criticize big moma again,we will add back a few points–

RiNS
RiNS
  TampaRed
October 4, 2018 7:30 pm

Hey Red!

You should check out

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I couldn’t help myself… although I wuz saying nice things aboot you.. honest

I did take some piss outta 22winfag,

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Just Thinking
Just Thinking
October 4, 2018 2:18 pm

My wife had a 2008 (?) Jetta TDI. Absolutley wonderful car. She was “disappointed” on our trip to VA Beach when we got only 49.9 mpg. Best shifting manual I’ve ever driven as well.

And if they now get 13 mpg LESS-burning more fuel-are we producing more or less NOx per tank?

Fatty
Fatty
  Just Thinking
October 4, 2018 2:41 pm

Moar

Agnes in Chains
Agnes in Chains
October 4, 2018 2:33 pm

Spanish radio commercials tout the fun to drive, modern, efficient driving machines. If you don’t buy one, you are a modern day Flintstones family (cue Flintstones theme).

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
October 4, 2018 2:55 pm

I didn’t opt for a fix on my 2015 TDI wagon. But have never attained 44 MPG, except when I leave home at 3,600′ and drop to 500′ in Charlotte. 40-41 hwy is average. At 203K & runs like a top, maint expense has totaled $900, period.

Sad way to ruin a great car. This is my 2nd TDI.

Wip
Wip
  lamont cranston
October 4, 2018 3:44 pm

Damn!!!! You drive ALOT!!

unit472
unit472
October 4, 2018 3:03 pm

Europe has some new ‘World’ standard for auto emissions. Now you might have thought Europe doesn’t run the ‘world’ but when it comes to auto emissions a big market like ‘Europe’ or ‘California’ in the US can impose its standards on everyone else because automakers cannot afford to make separate autos for Texas and Florida and another for California or France so the big market with the most draconian standards can impose them on everyone else.

Naturally EVs are not subject to the same emission standards since their emissions are released at the electricity and battery making facilities.

Now I am not against EVs but they are dependent on the electrical grid being up and running. If it isn’t you don’t have a car anymore. Imagine if Puerto Rico had mandated EVs and then got hit by hurricane Maria. Not only would the islanders have had no power they would have no transport either and it took almost a year to get the lights back on on the island.

Its a helluva lot easier to bring gasoline and diesel fuel back into a stricken area than it is to rebuild the grid and for this reason alone I will always keep a gasoline powered vehicle even if I buy an EV for town driving.

Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
October 4, 2018 4:42 pm

My 1980 vw golf diesel got 70 mpg. Wtf happened?

Not my Circus
Not my Circus
  Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
October 4, 2018 6:14 pm

1980 Golf was about 1700 pounds
2015 Jetta is about 4500 pounds

2.65 times the weight. The function of more rules for crash and pedistrian impact regulations.

Mark
Mark
October 4, 2018 6:12 pm

I bought two new Jettas in 95 & 96 red and green that me and my teenage daughter traded back and forth. She loved them both, the price was right and for their class the weight of the hood was a heavy gauge of steel so that was a big point for me, putting her in a car that could take a crunch.

Over the next five years both cars simply started falling apart.

I thought I was getting vaunted German engineering but one unusual problem after another happened: bolts popped out, door handles slipped, windows stopped working, visors came lose, brackets popped off. Crazy stuff. I started digging…then I found out both cars were assembled in Mexico.

Lower labor costs.

Ten Year Lurker
Ten Year Lurker
October 4, 2018 9:44 pm

Why is this article dedicated to 22winfag, which I assume is 22winmag?

I always thought said handle should be 22winbag, however 22winfag somehow feels more apropos.

RiNS
RiNS
  Ten Year Lurker
October 4, 2018 10:01 pm

22winbag I kinda like it!

go to the thread linked by me above.. 22win had his/her/xir hair in a twist about our esteemed Libertarian car guy. Admin thought it be great to dedicate this post in honour of the pissing and moaning