“They Cut Him Up While He Was Still Alive”: Grisly Details Of Saudi Journalist Killing Emerge

Via ZeroHedge

While President Trump would love it if the Western media, along with prominent executives in tech and finance, would buy Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman’s claims that he had “no knowledge” of the confrontation at the Saudis’ consulate in Istanbul that’s believed to have precipitated the killing of insider-turned-Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi, yet more evidence has emerged this morning to contradict the official Saudi narrative.

Trial balloons floated by the kingdom in the Western press, as well as Trump’s own suggestions, point to “rogue operatives”, but in a story published last night, the New York Times managed to corroborate Turkish officials’ claims that several suspected members of the 15-man ‘hit squad’ have been directly linked with MbS.

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And now, in what has been billed as the first glimpse of the grisly circumstances of Khashoggi’s murder, the Middle East Eye and the Wall Street Journal have reported that “it took seven minutes for Khashoggi to die.”

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But in what was probably the most gruesome details from the report, MEM reported that Dr. Salah Muhammad al-Tubaigy, who was identified by the Times and other media outlets as an “autopsy expert” whose presence cuts against Saudis’ suggestions that the killing wasn’t premeditated, started cutting Khashoggi’s body into pieces while the journalist was unconscious, but still breathing. Previously, Khashoggi had been knocked unconscious after being injected with a mysterious substance.

MEM attributed its information to a person who had listened to the Turkish government’s recording of the murder (its agents had apparently bugged the Saudi consulate, which is unsurprising given the tense relations between the two Muslim powers that only deteriorated during last year’s Qatari crisis). That recording, which hasn’t been publicly shared, has served as the basis for dozens of media reports about Khashoggi’s death. According to this source, after arriving at the consulate, Khashoggi was dragged from the consul-general’s office at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul into his study next door, before being pinned down on the table and injected with an unknown substance. During the attack, horrifying screams were heard by witnesses.

After Khashoggi had been knocked unconscious (never to awaken again), al-Tubaigy put on his headphones and started the grim process of dismembering the body with a bone saw.

Tubaigy began to cut Khashoggi’s body up on a table in the study while he was still alive, the Turkish source said. The killing took seven minutes, the source said.

As he started to dismember the body, Tubaigy put on earphones and listened to music. He advised other members of the squad to do the same.

“When I do this job, I listen to music. You should do [that] too,” Tubaigy was recorded as saying, the source told MEE.

A three-minute version of the audio tape has been given to Turkish newspaper Sabah, but they have yet to release it.

A Turkish source told the New York Times that Tubaigy was equipped with a bone saw. He is listed as the president of the Saudi Fellowship of Forensic Pathology and a member of the Saudi Association for Forensic Pathology.

According to WSJ, voices on the tapes can be heard asking the Saudi consul to leave his office before the hit squad murdered Khashoggi. The consul, Mohammad al-Otaibi, departed Turkey for Riyadh Tuesday afternoon after the Saudis, in a sudden reversal, denied Turkey’s requests to search Otaibi’s residence, saying his home was off limits to investigators.

Should other media organizations confirm these reports (which has become a pattern since Khashoggi disappeared into the consulate on Oct. 2 after being asked to return to pick up a marriage license), calls for sanctions, an arms sales ban – or even the deposing of Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman could grow louder.

But while MbS remains ensconced in his protective shield of power, those directly involved in the killing have good reason to be afraid. The United Nations human rights chief Michelle Bachelet has called for the lifting of diplomatic immunity for any facilities and persons tied to the killing, which means that, even if Saudi Arabia gives its nominal “rogue operatives” a pass, extradition requests from Turkey or another UN member would greatly increase their chances of arrest.

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starfcker
starfcker
October 17, 2018 8:20 am

The Saudis are, what the Saudis are. That’s a rough part of the world. Why are we supposed to be so concerned about this? In Mexico, right on our border, journalists and politicians get killed every day. Fast forward. MBS isn’t going anywhere. And we’re not cancelling a hundred and ten billion dollars in weapons sales.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
  starfcker
October 17, 2018 10:17 am

The Saudis have hit 4 Yemeni school buses in the past 2 years but now we’re concerned about their cruelty?

This guy Kashoggi obviously worked for the CIA or else nobody would give a shit.

Taras 77
Taras 77
  Captain Willard
October 17, 2018 3:30 pm

Spot On!
If he worked for the washpost, as he did, he worked for the cia.
They are one and the same.

Taras 77
Taras 77
  Taras 77
October 17, 2018 4:54 pm

Greenwald takes WaPo’s hypocracy apart on The Intercept (long article, worth a scan):

The Washington Post, as It Shames Others, Continues to Pay and Publish Undisclosed Saudi Lobbyists and Other Regime Propagandists

Dan
Dan
October 17, 2018 8:22 am

What a tragedy. Truly SICK. But is anyone even *slightly* surprised? These barbarians have been doing far worse to each other for centuries… and they could care less what our howling media soy-bois have to say on the mater. Tell the defense contractor that their cooperate welfare is over, and just quarantine the whole region, and let them have at it.

CCRider
CCRider
October 17, 2018 8:32 am

Who knows what the real story is? Certainly not the puppets yacking about it in the ‘news’. It involves the biggest power players and finances in the world. We rabble don’t deserve a seat at that table. The story already bores me. But always looking for the sunny side of events I find it ironically humorous that the poor bastard got carved up in a country named Turkey.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
  CCRider
October 17, 2018 10:18 am

Carved in Turkey by the Saw-di Arabians lol

Excommunicated
Excommunicated
October 17, 2018 8:37 am

If the Saudis helped carry out the 9/11 attacks, why would anyone give them the benefit of the doubt now?
It’s the oil stupid. Dont bite the hand that feeds you.

Issac
Issac
October 17, 2018 9:03 am

WaPo hires a non-citizen spook. He is dismembered by other spooks for who knows what former or ongoing subversion. Many such cases. Send more reporters.

James
James
October 17, 2018 9:25 am

I really hope this story is a fake,would be easy with todays tech to fake a audio/hell video of this action,that said,the house of saud has always been a ruthless bunch,along with many in other govt.s including ours.

TC
TC
October 17, 2018 9:39 am

Looks like the Israelis really don’t want the Saudis to get those weapons.

Dan
Dan
  TC
October 17, 2018 10:14 am

The Israelis and the House of Saud are, amazingly, *allied* against Iran on this one. But as far as Im concerned, we should cut them all loose, and let them settle their own affairs the old fashioned way.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
October 17, 2018 9:48 am

I don’t care…But I do care about the American military participating in the massacres in Yemen. Get out of Yemen, Donald.

CCRider
CCRider
  pyrrhus
October 17, 2018 3:27 pm

Pretty sure that’s his inclination but he doesn’t have permission.

Bat Guano
Bat Guano
October 17, 2018 10:26 am

Says it all. Paddy Chayefsky was one hell of a writer.

meg
meg
  Bat Guano
October 17, 2018 12:37 pm
Dutchman
Dutchman
October 17, 2018 10:43 am

Don’t buy the kabobs !

Stucky
Stucky
October 17, 2018 11:32 am

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Stucky
Stucky
October 17, 2018 11:34 am

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Stucky
Stucky
October 17, 2018 11:38 am

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So, according to these graphs;

—- The Sauds could restrict oil exports … raising the price and causing economic turmoil

—- Buy billions of dollars worth of military gear from someone else … like, Russia

—- Dump US Treasury Bonds

Soooooo, who is really holding all the cards; Trump, or the Sauds??

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Stucky
October 18, 2018 9:03 am

If someone or some organization is identified as war criminals or part of a drug cartel, do we continue to allow them access to their funds held in US banks? If memory serves me we’ve placed holds on Iran, Panama, Colombian drug cartels, etc. All it would take is for the OPresident to identify the Saudis as a criminal regime and they could pound sand with their Treasuries. Just put out the word that any treasuries held by them are non-negotiable and let anyone who would be a buyer at depressed prices know that they’d be next or considered accomplices to completely deflate that option.

We keep playing by the rules while everyone else flaunts them, it makes absolutely no sense at all.

TampaRed
TampaRed
October 17, 2018 12:43 pm

do any of you also see the irony in following international law & extraditing the perps when the only evidence is an illegal wiretap?
a wiretap that probably could not have been done w/o us or russian help/technology–

what’s the real story?

cynic
cynic
October 17, 2018 12:48 pm

Why would the Turks reveal that they have bugged the Saudi embassy, unless they expect this event to gain more for them than continued surveillance would have done?

TC
TC
  cynic
October 17, 2018 1:34 pm

The wiretaps were likely courtesy of the NSA. Why do you think the pastor Brunson was released?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
October 17, 2018 1:59 pm

I’m calling bullshit on this story.

And anyone who writes and article about this guy without mentioning his spook connections are deflecting. Journalist, is that how you pronounce CIA?

And no one is dismembering living human beings without some well outfitted torture chamber and a serious message to send. If it did happen, maybe they wanted this to come out.

The whole story smells.

Aztlan pop. 1
Aztlan pop. 1
  hardscrabble farmer
October 17, 2018 2:19 pm

Already the rattles of regime change are resounding in the halls of congress. As if too much power in the hands of the clown prince is not manageable for the west. We need a puppet.

Jdog
Jdog
October 17, 2018 9:50 pm

It was once said that you measure how civilized people are by the value they place on human life. Obviously the Saudi’s put no value at all on human life.
The American Citizens have been asleep at the switch as their corrupt government has supported and enabled countries like Saudi Arabia to murder at will not only in the mid-east, but here in America where the Saudi’s finaced 9/11. Obama vetoed legislation alowing 9/11 victims to sue the Saudi’s, and now Trump tries to cover up the dismemberment of a live man. Pat Roberts tells his followers that a $100 million dollar arms deal is more importaint than the grusome, tortuous, murder of a man who dared to speak against a criminal regeme. The question is, as a nation, have we sunk to the level of accepting this kind of evil because the people doing it have money and oil we want? Are we really that depraved?