Full Circle: Lessons of the Lost City in the Sands of Time

By Doug “Uncola” Lynn via TheBurningPlatform.com

This post will be a little “outside of the box” so to speak. It’s more of an afterthought, really.  Therefore, it may not tie into current events and, specifically, the upcoming midterms and aftermath.  Or, in a roundabout way, it could be exactly about those coming events. Regardless, as always, it is the reader’s choice to tag along while simultaneously, and at your whim, possessing the power of the click.

Of course, that’s just one of the bonuses of being an internet animal.

Another includes the occasional morsels discovered when hunting and gathering online. These may often be feel-good stories that reassure one’s belief in humanity. Other examples might include new scientific breakthroughs that, at the time, are only reported on the shadowy fringes of the interwebic blogosphere.  Or maybe the tidbit is about a social, or health, tip that enriches one’s life. And, oftentimes, other postings are historical; even connecting antiquity with modernity in ways that resurrect the imaginations of childhood.

For instance, every time I click through another posting of Noah’s Ark being found or view scientists exploring what could be the ancient vessel that carried animals two by two, it takes me back to the old stories, and even visions of Spock Leonard Nimoy on Mount Ararat during the five year mission in search of where others have boldly gone before.

I sometimes wonder if the internet may, in fact, be the final frontier.

But, now, to my most recent morsel and the subject of this particular post.

Two years ago there were reports on the mysterious Eye of the Sahara (also called the Richat Structure, the Eye of Mauritania, or the Eye of Africa). It is a circular land formation that has remained hidden through the ages because of its obscurity at ground level.  Part of the reason it has been hidden in plain sight over the millennia was due to its remote location in the western Sahara Desert. Another is because of the overall size of its inner rings; around 14.5 miles in diameter.

Although it was discovered in the early nineteenth-century and designated as the Richat Crater, it wasn’t until the Gemini IV mission in 1965 that the bullseye-shaped structure was seen in its entirety during a four-day orbit around the Earth.

Because the geographic anomaly can only be (fully) viewed from high altitude, Forbes Magazine last summer said it looked like a giant crop circle and that:

 

Astronauts love to observe the Eye of the Sahara from space because it looks like the landing site of a 40-kilometer wide flying saucer.

 

Then, last month, another article surfaced to claim the Richat Structure actually matched the descriptions of the Lost City of Atlantis that was recounted in the dialogues of Plato, the ancient Greek philosopher.

Fascinating.

It turned out the article was reporting on the YouTube video of an enthusiastic young man who referenced a 2011 documentary on Atlantis as his inspiration.

This is the video:

 

 

For those who don’t have time to view the 21 minute presentation, the following includes a brief summary:

Using the exact words that Plato used to describe Atlantis in his dialogues Critias and Timaeus, the narrator compared the surrounding land features and location described therein with the land anomaly now known as the Eye of the Sahara.

It was claimed that Plato based his writings upon access to ancient Egyptian knowledge regarding an “advanced empire referred to as Atlantis”.

The city was understood to be technologically advanced, full of “noble and powerful people possessing vast wealth, luxury and knowledge, and even military superiority, and as described as being destroyed in a single day and night of misfortune which caused the island of Atlantis to disappear into the depths of the sea.”

Some contend the city disappeared in the aftermath of a vast earthquake and tsunami.

Nine-thousand years later, the Athenian statesman, Solon (638 – 558 BC), had an Egyptian high priest translate hieroglyphics that described Egypt as a former colony of the Empire of Atlantis. Solon’s notes were then kept safe in the family over the next six generations until his ancestral relative, Plato, recorded them near 2,400 years ago.

Using Solon’s dates, the city of Atlantis sunk around 11,600 years ago which, coincidently, corresponds to what is called the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe, or a widespread extinction level event hypothesized to have been caused by the distant impact of a comet. It is speculated the ensuing earthquake and tsunami destroyed Atlantis.

Plato described the lost city as follows:

 

There were alternate zones of sea and land, larger and smaller, encircling one another, there were two of land, and three of water which were turned as if with a lathe each having its circumference equidistant every way from the center.

– Plato, from “Critias”

 

 

The Greek philosopher furthermore cited the diameter of Atlantis as being 127 “stadia”.  Since a stadia is known to be a measurement of 607 feet, this means Solon’s and Plato’s recordings closely correspond to the actual size of the Richat Structure in Mauritania.

Furthermore, Plato said the mountains which “sheltered the island to the north flowed with rivers” and that the city opened to the south towards the sea.

Just for fun, I checked it out myself via the Evil Entity’s “Earth” application:

 

 

As I zoomed in on the above location, I found myself wondering if I was actually seeing the Lost City of Atlantis – and if I was, I asked myself:  “How cool is the internet?”

The narrator of the above YouTube video also pointed out how the entire area looked like it was formed by an ancient tsunami complete with striations going west to east from the Atlantic Ocean. These patterns also correspond to the erosion seen on the outer rings of the Richat Structure.

 

 

There were more connections and comparisons made between the writings of Plato and the Eye of the Sahara in the video, as well as speculation as to how plate tectonics may have raised its current location another 900 feet above Ice Age sea levels.

In any case, as I now envision the ancient city of Atlantis in my mind’s eye:  I see the city bordered to the north with lush mountains and spectacular waterfalls and, to the south, a bustling seaport all at once ancient, exotic, and worldly; a spectacular civilization swallowed by the sea in a moment.

In “The Republic”, Plato honored ancient Athens as the ideal state, but it was the city of Atlantis that inspired the Renaissance writers Francis Bacon and Thomas More as well as other authors and poets throughout history. But no matter the writer, or the words, or whether utopias or dystopias were described, the City of Atlantis today symbolizes civilization lost.

In Timaeus and Critias, respectively, Plato defined the “World Soul” and told of the earth divided among the gods by allotment.  He described the virtue of Atlantis in its rise and then how the Atlanteans became corrupt:

 

…but when the divine portion began to fade away, and became diluted too often and too much with the mortal admixture, and the human nature got the upper hand, they then, being unable to bear their fortune, behaved unseemly, and to him who had an eye to see grew visibly debased, for they were losing the fairest of their precious gifts ; but to those who had no eye to see the true happiness, they appeared glorious and blessed at the very time when they were full of avarice and unrighteous power.

-Plato, from “Critias”

 

And the rest, as they say, is history.

 

…in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea.

 -Plato, from “Timaeus”

 

Indeed, the eras ebb and flow with the tides; yet the words remain, untouched by the sands of time.  In modernity, just as in antiquity, there are similar rhymes as civilizations are divided, seemingly, by fickle gods.  The sun rises.  The sun sets. Nations rise and civilizations fall. And when everything is lost and all that once was sinks into the sea by the earthquakes and tsunamis of time and change, the words will still be there; awaiting discovery in the desert.

But if not the desert, then, hopefully, the internet.

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Author: Uncola

I am one who has found the road less traveled while remaining a whiskered, whispering witness to the world. I hope what you just considered was worth the price and time spent. www.TheTollOnline.com

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mark branham
mark branham
October 18, 2018 7:14 am

You cannot hope to understand unless you’ve read The Uranta Book, where you will find the most complete and authoritative account of history lost to us millennia ago.

Paul
Paul
  mark branham
October 18, 2018 11:49 am

Revelation 22:18-19

urantia is a cult and so is the atlantian-ra priesthoods brotherhood of light

search ‘mystery schools’ and the book of enoch. the bibles book of jude mentions the book of enoch

Honest Buck
Honest Buck
  Paul
October 18, 2018 11:57 am

The Hidden Significance of Enoch in three words: Aliens — Atlantis — Ascension

http://www.reversespins.com/enoch.html

Aztlan, pop. 1
Aztlan, pop. 1
  Paul
October 19, 2018 12:26 am
mark branham
mark branham
  mark branham
October 19, 2018 9:40 pm

Atlantis is a myth… but based on the fact of the first home of Adam and Eve(at the eastern end of the Mediterranean) and the first civilized city near present day Persian Gulf; a city lasting some 300,000 years before the Lucifer rebellion ended our planets first civilization.

And while most here will never believe, you will someday, guaranteed.

James
James
October 18, 2018 7:42 am

While may be the lost city of Atlantis hope is never proven one way or another for sure,kind of like the Lock Ness critter(s?),don’t want a logical just a city ruined by nature or just a well hidden dinosaur,like to have some tales just remain mysteries.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
October 18, 2018 8:16 am

You don’t think archeologists would have dug it up by now? Or is this a brand new hypothesis?

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Donkey Balls
October 18, 2018 11:25 am

The Smithsonian has been accused of hiding significant findings from the public for as long as it has been existence….faxtor in the Catholic Church and it’s library not open to the public and all of the great Libraries and museums of the past that have been sacked and burned like the Library of Alexandria and more recently the history lost in the land currently known as Iraq and we can see how significant an impact the rise and fall of civilizations can be….

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Platoplubius
October 18, 2018 4:25 pm

Not just accused, proven by contemporary documents. Smithsonian is deep state.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Platoplubius
October 20, 2018 6:44 pm

The Vatican Library is open to scholars of any nationality or background. It is not open to the non-scholarly public.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Donkey Balls
October 18, 2018 5:13 pm

you dont think that the gigant skeletons would have been dug up by now?
The same entity that hides ALL historical artifacts that do not fit the narrative would hide this to i believe, try trawling old newpapers or check out Quayles book to see them in one place..

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Anonymous
October 19, 2018 11:28 am

I left Steve Quayle out but I am glad you mentioned him and his work on Giants.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
October 18, 2018 8:30 am

This one was fun.

Thanks, Uncola.

steve
steve
October 18, 2018 8:31 am

That story gave me pause for just just how wondrous and mysterious life is and all the marvels of this planet. Thanks Uncola

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
October 18, 2018 9:08 am

Admittedly it is interesting, especially the obvious evidence of some kind of massive water flow either in or out of that area- looks like it was in and then has slowly eroded back towards the Atlantic judging by the color of the sand. And while it is clearly a salt dome, it provides a perfect natural set of fortifications that could easily have been turned into walled city or redoubt had there been adequate climate and flora at some point- which is almost certainly likely.

That there was a cataclysmic flood event in the distant past when humans were in some stage of civilizational development seems almost certain, the myths and stories passed down by virtually every race on Earth all synch up fairly well on that point.

I looked but couldn’t find any kind of evidence of any archaeological expeditions or discoveries linked to that formation, only geological ones. Certainly looks like a place worthy of doing a couple of test pits.

Eyas
Eyas
  hardscrabble farmer
October 18, 2018 4:39 pm

I’m fascinated by this stuff, and surprised that I’ve never heard mention of this seeming evidence of water flow. It looks like almost all of Mali is some ancient seabed that somehow just tipped over and spilled westward across Mauritania.
Of course, if I were either an archaeologist or a geologist, I wouldn’t be volunteering for an expedition to either of those shithole countries.

Aztlan, pop. 1
Aztlan, pop. 1
  Eyas
October 19, 2018 12:29 am
Disparity Flux
Disparity Flux
October 18, 2018 10:01 am

Just need to find some kind of incentive for explorers to venture into this inhospitable territory…
How about rumors of great piles of Atlantean gold and silver buried under dozens of feet of alluvial silt?

Grog
Grog
  Disparity Flux
October 19, 2018 2:25 am

Nah, the Comex would short it.

xrugger
xrugger
October 18, 2018 10:13 am

Interesting stuff Doug. I am always fascinated by the “lost civilization” theme. Since it is a category the American experiment will fall into some day, I wonder what the future will make of us?

I have to chuckle when I think of some archeologist digging into a modern day landfill site a thousand years from now.

Aztlan, pop. 1
Aztlan, pop. 1
  xrugger
October 18, 2018 4:23 pm

A thousand years from now, that archeologist will be an ape. All he’ll find is plastic; bottles and bags amid piles of rotted debris. The good news is that after the holocaust (Part Dieux) Keeping Up With the Kardashians will be cancelled.

Uncola
Uncola
  xrugger
October 18, 2018 6:20 pm

X says,

I have to chuckle when I think of some archeologist digging into a modern day landfill site a thousand years from now.

There’s no doubt future historians will have a museum dedicated to Tickle Me Elmo.

What I want to know is how they will report the deluge and devastation of our current civilization. Will it be by Blue Wave or Kondratieff Wave? That is the question. Maybe both?

Soylent Gringo
Soylent Gringo
  Uncola
October 18, 2018 10:13 pm

Damn Boomers think they are the indispensable generation. Let’s go out with a bang, they said. We’ll pump up the market, fill it with air until it pops. Let’s vote ourselves more freebies than anybody ever dreamed of and stick it to the Xers and millennials. Sorry morans, don’t blame us, blame it on the Boomer quake with its Blue and Kondratieff tsunami waves.

Old Krank
Old Krank
  Soylent Gringo
October 20, 2018 12:25 am

Soylent is proof it’s not just the commies that churn out NPCs.

Uncola
Uncola
October 18, 2018 10:15 am

As an aside, and in response to some of the commentary thus far, the video does address some other connections with the writings of Plato to findings at the site.

In the dialogue of “Timaeus”, for example, Plato said “there were a great number of elephants in the island“, and there were in fact skeletal remains of elephants discovered at the location. Other comparisons included the discovery of black and red stones as mentioned by Plato as well as gold and silver artifacts.

In any case, it’s fun to think about. Thanks for the comments

Dead Cat's Head
Dead Cat's Head
  Uncola
October 18, 2018 2:14 pm

Hey Uncola, I think you would get a kick out of Rudolph Steiner and Edgar Cayce’s take on what happened in Atlantis. Also Steiner talked about the future (present) incarnation of Ahriman, which if you look around you can see the Ahriman influence everywhere.

Uncola
Uncola
  Dead Cat's Head
October 18, 2018 3:57 pm

It is interesting how the new faiths resemble the old ones; like fresh frosting on an old cake.

Barney
Barney
October 18, 2018 10:39 am

What’s next for us? In the book ”The last hour” by Amir Tsarfati, an excellent case is made that the next big event in the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy timeline is Isaiah 17:1 and the leveling of Damascus.
This event starts a horrific war between Russia and Israel , probably involving nukes! Israel wins the war at great cost and soon after this battle the Antichrist will arise out of Europe!!!

This concludes my book report, got God??

Stucky
Stucky
  Barney
October 18, 2018 11:37 am

A nuclear war between Israel (a few hundred nukes … supposedly) and Russia (many thousands of nukes … factually) is gonna be won by …. da Joos??? Riiiiight.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Stucky
October 18, 2018 1:02 pm

He who nukes first-might get lucky? Countries may have huge numbers but after a couple of dozen or hundred what would be left? Israel is about the size of a US county so it sure wouldn’t take many.
A SeaBee friend told me they went over there and built dozens of underground ICBM silos in the desert in the 60’s.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Harrington Richardson
October 18, 2018 4:28 pm

Are you aware of the thousands of satellites in orbit? No such thing as a surprise attack these days…

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  pyrrhus
October 18, 2018 9:32 pm

Until there is one.

Barney
Barney
  Stucky
October 18, 2018 4:27 pm

Stucky:
Russia+allies vs Israel +allies

Hope that helps.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Stucky
October 18, 2018 8:30 pm

No winner in that war, Stuck. If Israel deploys and even a few get through, Russia would never be the same. Israel would cease to exist entirely, but Russia would be a shambles.

Anon38D
Anon38D
  Stucky
October 18, 2018 8:59 pm

You know… david and goliath but with nukes.

ursel doran
ursel doran
October 18, 2018 11:15 am

You are to be congratulated Sir, for having the most important human trait noted by Einstein!
CURIOSITY!
Thanks for the fascinating digging.

Subwo
Subwo
October 18, 2018 11:29 am

Thanks. I gleem like article by going to the Ancient Origins site. I’ll be sharing this for sure

Stucky
Stucky
October 18, 2018 11:33 am

Uncola

Have you heard of the TV show on the Science channel called “What On Earth?” It uses satellite imagery to find things on earth that can only be seen from space. We’re usually talking REAL stuff …. not conspiracy/supernatural/aliens stuff.

I think it’s a great show …. I’ve seen just about every episode. Here’s a link to the Science Channel and some full episodes ….

https://www.sciencechannel.com/tv-shows/what-on-earth/

Uncola
Uncola
  Stucky
October 18, 2018 11:59 am

Very cool. I’ve not heard of it but will check it out. Thanks Stuck

EDIT: I just checked out the link. Kind of looks like the modern-day version of the 1977-1982 “In Search Of” series that I linked to in my above article. Will watch some of the full episodes when I have some time. I like to open up a small window on my system and let it run when I surf and work. Thanks again.

Rather, Not
Rather, Not
October 18, 2018 11:37 am

Interesting, this is one of many hypothetically plausible but still unlikely bits on the fringes of knowledge. But there are so many, that statistically a few of them are likely at least partially true, and some of them seem to line up reasonably well.

For instance, this post is unrelated, but lines up with the Graham Hancock type of ‘there was a global advanced civilization that was wiped out in the time frame of the younger Dryas catastrophic event’ as well as the separate older version of the pyramids (that they and/or the sphinx preceded the dynasty period to which they’re ascribed), or the much more advanced than the inca pre-inca stonework in the Andes. I dare say we still couldn’t do some of that stonework today, and at a minimum, never would (so much easier to do square than some of those extremely tightly fitted complex polygons). Or the renaissance maps based on Byzantine maps based on ‘much older maps’ that got the coastline of Antarctica right, and even more interestingly, that coastline is obscured under the ice (it was the actual shape of the land…not the edge of the ice that it got right). Maybe just lucky squiggles. Also could tie to some of the interpretations of the pre-Sumerian ‘ancient aliens’ genetic engineering/hybridization origin of thinking hominids.

Note: I don’t subscribe to/advocate for any of these, but they are interesting in their congruence.

Uncola
Uncola
  Rather, Not
October 18, 2018 4:11 pm

I once had a conversation with one of the nation’s premier microbiologists who, at the time, was with Mayo Clinic. I was surprised at how much he acknowledged the experts in his field DID NOT know. It’s the same with history. Some of the old ruins appear to have been assembled with laser precision (like the pyramids).

In the example of the Richat Structure: Was it natural? Or designed? The natural explanations are questionable, to say the least. And if designed, how could that large of an island city have been constructed with such precise symmetry that many years ago?

It never ceases to amaze how many phrases one comes across like these:

“Scientists are baffled as to…”

“Experts can’t explain why…”

“Scientists still have questions about the mysterious…”

And so forth. You get the idea.

Paul
Paul
  Rather, Not
October 18, 2018 4:59 pm

‘Also could tie to some of the interpretations of the pre-Sumerian ‘ancient aliens’ genetic engineering/hybridization origin of thinking hominids.’

Jacobs Ladder is the stairway to heaven.
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Anonymous
Anonymous
  Paul
October 18, 2018 5:34 pm

artificial immortality. Eat that fruit and you won’t die even after you want to!

Stucky
Stucky
October 18, 2018 11:49 am

A fun read, for sure.

I absolutely 100% believe there was a city/civilization named Atlantis. Because Plato … why would he lie?

OTOH … why is Plato the ONLY contemporary who mentions the city??

And, as with ALL such claims, I say; “Show me at least SOME artifacts!”. A city that large and inhabited for that long MUST have left behind SOME artifacts, imho (utensils, pottery shards, statues, building foundations, etc.).

Look, there are scads of artifacts from Jericho (whose walls came tumbling down when some Joos tried playing “Go Down Moses” on their trumpets) … and that was hardly even a city — just a tiny village of six acres!

================

How “Go Down Moses” really sounds ….

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Stucky
October 18, 2018 12:14 pm

If the stories of Atlantis and it’s DEMISE are true it’s probably deep beneath the ocean like something like this story…

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2816443/these-incredible-underwater-ruins-are-known-as-japans-atlantis-and-people-think-they-could-be-proof-of-alien-life/

The comic books tell that Aquaman is King of Atlantis the underwater kingdom….which I think is interesting in itself.

And then there is the lost continent of Lemuria and Mu that David Icke chronicles in his book Children of the Matrix…

Uncola
Uncola
  Stucky
October 18, 2018 4:24 pm

Stucky says:

A fun read, for sure.

and

A city that large and inhabited for that long MUST have left behind SOME artifacts, imho (utensils, pottery shards, statues, building foundations, etc.)

It was fun to write too. I sat down yesterday to start something else and I just couldn’t stop thinking about this topic and video. So I thought I’d share it here and others might enjoy it as much as I did.

Speaking to any artifacts, or lack thereof, I suppose it’s possible much could have been lost at sea? Also, 11,600 years ago is quite a long time? What wasn’t covered by miles of sand (via the mechanics of plate tectonics), could have been picked over by multitudes of bedouins through the centuries?

Who knows? But, as stated previously, it’s fun to consider.

Rather, Not
Rather, Not
  Uncola
October 18, 2018 4:47 pm

I think the time frame hypothesized here (~12k years) would reduce almost everything except stone to rubble, and even the stone would be heavily eroded if there was either rainfall, or wind+sand.

If you took NYC in its currently man-made majesty today, and didn’t touch or maintain it for 12k years, just about the only thing left would be some oddly precise holes in the bedrock, and a smattering of stones that seem like they might have been worked. Every bit of iron/steel would have rusted away. All the concrete and bricks would be dust. All of the buildings, including the very solid stone masonry would be collapsed. You’d find some heavily weathered stone piles. All the plastic and wires gone. All the concrete and asphalt gone. All the tunnels collapsed. You might find buried fragments of glass, but all the surface glass would be gone. Given that environment (presuming no major changes, which is a big if over that time frame) it would be a pristine apex temperate forest. It probably wouldn’t even be an island at that point with the harbor silted in. The people would be looking for a majestic city on an island, that might be miles inland from the then coast.

Old Krank
Old Krank
  Uncola
October 20, 2018 12:30 am

According to Solon, they did; those artifacts would be called ‘Egypt’.

Eyas
Eyas
  Stucky
October 18, 2018 4:52 pm

Gobekli Tepe has you covered on the time-frame, but not necessarily the degree of claimed sophistication. It seems impressive as hell to me, anyway.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
October 18, 2018 1:10 pm

Very interesting. I am waiting to see if anything develops on a news blurb a few months back about a huge city being revealed beneath receding ice some place in Antarctica. I am cynical enough to believe the tree huggers will try to suppress many discoveries because they would demonstrate the piles of ice they worship weren’t always there.

Stucky
Stucky
October 18, 2018 1:34 pm

Hey, I just found this …. maybe it’s old news to others.

Massive damage at Tyndall AFB. There are TWENTY TWO (!!!) F-22 Stealth Fighters ($340 Million each) missing after the hurricane.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-13/hurricane-cost-may-skyrocket-billions-stealth-fighter-jets-unaccounted-tyndall-afb

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RiNS
RiNS
  Stucky
October 18, 2018 1:50 pm

I don’t call myself an expert when it comes to planes but that one above doesn’t look like a F-22. The nacelles don’t look right. Too square for a stealth fighter.
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Having viewed a drone video of destruction at Tyndall looks to me like one of the static display fighters that flew away when storm blew thru.. check out video starting at about 10 seconds or so…. The Plane fllipped on its roof looks much like this one.. At first I thought it was an F-14.

Could be wrong.. but from my experience working with S-61’s for CAF usually Hangar queens are in a Hangar. And they know were all these planes are. There is a bit of hyperbole going on here if you ask me.

Sure some might be written off after the debris from collapsed buildings are pulled off. Still there will be plenty of usable parts at any rate.

Because that is the reason why these planes were left there and not flown somewhere else when there was still time…

The Queens were cannibalized to keep the Kings in the Air…
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Looks to me like an F-15..

But what do I know..

Stucky
Stucky
  RiNS
October 19, 2018 11:17 am

“I don’t call myself an expert when it comes to planes but that one above doesn’t look like a F-22. ”

It’s not. It’s not even a real airplane … in terms of being active. It was an airplane skeleton put on a pedestal at the entrance to the base.

BL
BL
  Stucky
October 18, 2018 1:54 pm

That is 10% of the US F-22 Raptors Stucky. Expensive loss.

Anon38D
Anon38D
  Stucky
October 18, 2018 9:02 pm

I imagine they moved a large number of the fleet prior to the hurricane arrival. Perhaps they forgot where they put them

Aztlan, pop. 1
Aztlan, pop. 1
October 18, 2018 4:33 pm

That looks like the lost city of Aztlan (meaning the land of the north) from whence the Aztecs escaped. They wandered south for a time until they came to the site of Tenochtitlán. The sign of the eagle upon a cactus assured them this was to be their new homeland: an island city.

Aztlan, pop. 1
Aztlan, pop. 1
  Aztlan, pop. 1
October 18, 2018 4:57 pm

What kind of morans leave their northern homeland to found a city in the middle of a lake and proceed to build an empire while amassing a fortune in gold, for that matter, why gold and not seashells? It’s almost a case of history repeating when the Spaniards took the same route to conquer the Aztecs.

Este es el mapa más antiguo de la Ciudad de México

Llpoh
Llpoh
October 18, 2018 8:28 pm

In the first paragraph, there is this phrase: “possessing the power of the click.” because I did not have my glasses on, and because it was in a special font, I misread it as “possessing the power of the dick”.

Now, that got me really interested in what was to come, real fast. You cannot imagine my disappointment when I realized I had misread that phrase.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Llpoh
October 18, 2018 9:52 pm

It’s never a good idea to try to read without your glasses. It will give you a headache.

That said, both words make sense in either case.?

Uncola
Uncola
  Llpoh
October 19, 2018 10:10 am

When italicized the C and the L on the word “click” do look like a “d”; especially without wearing specs

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
October 18, 2018 10:03 pm

I just got home from a day trip.

Going to watch the video while I get ready for bed.

People have been speculating for thousands of years and looking for more evidence. There must be something to it because it seems to be ingrained in our subconscious.

Thanks for a pleasant diversion.

Robert Gore
Robert Gore
October 19, 2018 12:06 am

This time I waited until after I posted your article to tell you I posted your article, which I found intriguing and interesting. We’ll probably never get the answers, but the speculation is worthwhile.

Uncola
Uncola
  Robert Gore
October 19, 2018 12:30 am

Lol. Thanks Robert

Anon38D
Anon38D
October 19, 2018 8:10 am

I had meant to comment earlier but have been very busy with new livestock arrangements, supervised mostly, since I am limited in goat moving or bunny thumping agility at present. I just returned and wanted to say I enjoyed the look at the world from a different point of view. Thanks.

It made me want to stand in a different spot and look at things.

Robert Gore
Robert Gore
October 19, 2018 8:28 am

An SLL reader, tonytran2015, sent in this link to a 2008 story: https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/124435-atlantis-found-by-me-in-the-sahara/

Uncola
Uncola
  Robert Gore
October 19, 2018 5:04 pm

Finally had time to read it, Robert. Enjoyed it. Thanks for posting it here. In the commentary someone posted an antediluvian Chinese map of Africa complete with a circular island.
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Anonymous
Anonymous
October 19, 2018 11:29 am

I watched the video. It was too late to comment. It is a very interesting theory. Based on what I saw, it doesn’t really seem to conform to the rest of the information provided.

“Historian Ronald Fritze observes:

“Plato tells his readers that Atlantis is an island located just outside the straits of Gibraltar, the modern name for the ancient Pillars of Hercules. Atlantis is not just any island, but a very large land, larger than Sicily or Crete or Cyprus, which would have been the largest islands familiar to Plato and his contemporaries. In fact, Plato states that Altantis was bigger than Libya and Asia combined. Just what he meant by this comparison is unclear. Some scholars suggest that Plato was referring to two of the three continents known to the ancient Greeks: Libya (Saharan Africa) and Asia (the Middle East and India). If so, Atlantis was a rather large continent not merely an island. Plato, however, never refers to Atlantis as a continent so he may have been using a more limited definition of the geographical terms Libya and Asia. The ancient Greeks commonly referred to the region of North Africa between Egypt and Cyrene as Libya. They also sometimes called the area knowns as Asia Minor or modern Turkey by the shorter name of Asia. Taken together, the combination of these two regions would not amount to a continent-sized land mass, but it would constitute an island far larger even than Sicily, the largest island in the Mediterranean Sea. ”

https://www.fringepop321.com/the-lost-city-of-atlantis.htm

Here is a companion video if you prefer watching instead of reading.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
October 19, 2018 11:37 am

Did you know that there were four different Atlantis Theories?
Here are the other three:

“The Lost City of Atlantis: The Atlantis of Early Modern Europe
The Lost City of Atlantis: The Atlantis of Ignatius Donnelly
The Lost City of Atlantis: The Atlantis of Theosophists and Spiritualists

The mountain of speculation that has been piled atop Plato’s comments about Atlantis is truly startling. In our day, any submerged object that looks like the product of human hands must be Atlantis. It matters not that much of the speculation centers on places of which Plato had no geographical knowledge. It also matters not that the scientific argumentation upon which Atlantean ideas were based from the 16th through the 19th centuries is completely passé, having long been shown to be erroneous or incomplete. The romance of the idea of a lost city or continent simply outweighs that reality.”

Here is part two of the video

Uncola
Uncola
  Anonymous
October 19, 2018 2:23 pm

@ Anonymous,

I appreciated your comments, links, and information. It is not my intention to argue or even defend the Richat Structure as Atlantis as I have nothing at stake in the discussion. However, that said, allow me to play the advocate here for a moment:

By your admission (as well as the guy in the FringePop video): “Plato tells his readers that Atlantis is an island located just outside (emphasis added) the Straits of Gibraltar, the modern name for the ancient Pillars of Hercules.”

The Pillars of Hercules consist of the Rock of Gibraltar (Southern Spain) and the mountain on North Africa; both marking the ENTRANCE INTO the Mediterranean Sea.

Furthermore, just as Plato said outside of the Pillars, the FridgePop dude cites other ancient writers before Plato, including Homer, Pindar, and others, that mention a “sacred circular entity” somewhere west of Gibraltar.

Plato also cited the power “coming out of the Atlantic Ocean and extending all the way to Egypt” (paraphrased). Perhaps the island city was the capital for a larger region? The FringePop guy correctly cites Plato as saying the area was larger than Libya and Asia which he (FridgePop) defines Plato’s use of “smaller” linguistic terms (perhaps) identifying Libya as Saharan Africa and Turkey or Asia minor as Asia.

With all that in mind, now consider the below just for fun, keeping in mind Plato’s claim of Atlantis southern border opening to the sea (before the flood and ensuing land mass changes):

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What if the Northern Mountains of the Eye of the Sahara were part of an actual island at one time? Any thoughts?

Uncola
Uncola
  Uncola
October 19, 2018 2:49 pm

Also…

The romance of the idea of a lost city or continent simply outweighs that reality.

True dat

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Uncola
October 19, 2018 10:59 pm

That was my comment, Uncola. I just forgot that I had cleared my cache.
My thought is that it is an idea that will keep us speculating on it long after we are dead and we will never know anything about it for sure. Not in this life, anyways.

Also, I think that Dr Hieser would definitely like that you called him fringe pop dude. He has a great sense of humor.

Uncola
Uncola
  Mary Christine
October 19, 2018 11:17 pm

Got it MC. I had the video open while I was doing some other things today and I mainly listened to it. The YouTube posting name/channel was “FringePop321”. If Dr. Heiser introduced himself I must have missed it. Lol

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Uncola
October 20, 2018 10:38 am

One other thought occurred. What if the very short biblical account in Genesis 6 of the “sons of God mixing with the daughters of men” and Plato’s story of Poseidon falling in love and marrying a human maiden are tied together in some way? This would explain how Atlantis was able to become such an advanced ancient civilization, maybe. Also, it would explain why Atlantis would have had to be destroyed. I am just thinking out loud, here.

Dr. Heiser talks a bit about this in this recent interview, not so much Atlantis but the Genesis 6 account. You can listen and do other stuff. It’s pretty interesting.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
October 20, 2018 2:39 pm

Sheesh, now it won’t save my name, either. Maybe it’s a sign that I should remain an anon.
MC

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
October 19, 2018 9:02 pm

What planet are you dain bramaged wordsmiths from? Oh yeah, The Planet That Forgot Common Sense.

EL Coyote (EC)
EL Coyote (EC)
  Dennis Roe
October 19, 2018 9:27 pm

The planet of men with balls, heteros with a healthy appreciation of poontang; that hairy cup of vanilla pudding, ever heard of it? Where you from, Dennis, Atlantis?

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
  EL Coyote (EC)
October 20, 2018 9:25 pm

No planet reality. You college boys talk about shit that means nothing to regular peoplepounding out a regular life. Condesending asssholes, telling us how it is and how it should be. You feel cozy in the little room of like minded anonymous assholes. Groupthink, followthe herd. Fuck you bud, go fuck your sister like you did back home.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Dennis Roe
October 20, 2018 10:51 pm

Roe, there was a time when most of the commenters were doctors, dentists, pharmacists and assorted professionals; scientists, business owners etc. After YoBe’s epiphany the commentariat diversified. Now we have more morans than just me and BB. You’ll do alright if you can ever get over your intellectual insecurity.

I certainly appreciate that you are not one of the knee-jerk armchair patriots with mini American flags stabbed into the Herculon couch and Trump’s portrait on the mantle piece with candles aflame. The ability to think for yourself counts for a lot here. The better you are at it, the more down thumbs you will get. Down thumbs are a badge of honor but you have to work for them. Of course, affirmative action means that as a Hispanic I get an automatic 10 down thumbs lead.

Kittens Taste Like Chicken to Starving Marxists
Kittens Taste Like Chicken to Starving Marxists
  EL Coyote
October 20, 2018 11:20 pm

“You’ll do alright if you can ever get over your intellectual insecurity.”

Exactly. Who the fuck here isn’t pounding out regular life? Keep grinding it out Denny Boy. You coulda been a janitor anywhere, but you choose here, where the median IQ trends gastronomically higher than typified averageness. Think again douchebag.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote

Is that you, Ratfuck?

Ratfuck
Ratfuck
  EL Coyote
October 20, 2018 11:55 pm

Not me!

TampaRed
TampaRed
  EL Coyote
October 20, 2018 11:45 pm

minus 100

Not Ratfuck
Not Ratfuck
  TampaRed
October 21, 2018 12:00 am

Didn’t mean to pull yer strings tamponred.