Analyst Erupts At Tesla: “They Used Every Trick From Every Fraud To Put Lipstick On Q3 Results”

Submitted by Adventures in Capitalism

On October 11, I noted that “…I have booked all of my Tesla (TSLAQ – USA) Jan 2019 250/175 put spreads after owning them for almost a year, at a reference price of $255 compared to a reference price of $320 when I first wrote about them. While I am certain that Tesla collapses in the near future, all evidence seems to show that they’ve used every trick from every financial fraud over the past 100 years to put lipstick on the Q3 financial results.” Modern day Ivar Kreuger has not disappointed.

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/enron%20musk.jpg?itok=HleB5gQP

Over the years, I have purposefully kept accounting and numbers to a minimum on this site—they’re “boring.” Besides, if you must use a fancy spreadsheet to prove a point, then your thesis isn’t very good to begin with. The numbers should fit onto a bar napkin after a full night of drinking. Unless, of course, you suspect fraud—in that case, numbers and financial ratios are everything. With that out of the way, let’s delve into the Q3 Tesla numbers.

Big picture, from Q2 to Q3, there was a sequential improvement in operating income of $1.038 billion, and they delivered 43,007 incremental cars. That’s $24,140 per incremental vehicle on a car that is retailing for as little as $49,000. No other auto OEM even comes close to that. Something simply doesn’t add up—so I went looking for it.

I get that when revenue grows, you get operating leverage. This can be seen where SG&A as a percentage of revenue declined for 4 sequential quarters (green). This is normal. You would expect with a huge increase in Q3 revenue, that there would be more operating leverage. Would you expect that SG&A drops 2.8% sequentially on a 70.5% increase in revenue (red)? That’s not how manufacturing companies work. The expense is obviously still there, we just don’t know where they hid it…

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/TSLA-SGA.png?itok=c6zgVh1E

Let’s move to the balance sheet. Accounts receivable is usually where frauds hide the questionable transactions. If you give me enough beers, I can dream up a list of one-off reasons that a car may be sold without payment having occurred, but I will struggle to give you $585 million reasons (red). On the conference call, they noted that accounts receivable increased due to their last day of sales occurring on a Sunday. Sounds logical and all, except Q4/2017 also ended on a Sunday and accounts receivable showed a 15.2% sequential decline. Back then, energy generation, services and other (the things that normally have accounts receivable) were 17.8% of sales, today they are 10.6% of sales. Have you ever driven a car off the lot and not paid for it first? Something simply makes no sense here.

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/TSLA-AR-Calc.png?itok=O7LNI-qd

The real glaring issue is found in depreciation. They depreciate their tooling on a per car basis—hence, more cars sold, more depreciation. It should be linear as each car should use almost the same amount of tooling. I know there’s energy/services/other that gets depreciated, so it will bounce around a bit, but since automotive is 80-90% of total sales, the automotive depreciation should stay roughly constant. Look below; which quarter is not like any other quarter? Which quarter sees depreciation per vehicle drop by almost half?

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/tsla-depreciation-calc.png?itok=7zxwn8Fo

I can keep pointing to inconsistencies.

What’s the point? Something is rotten with these numbers.

There is plenty of anecdotal evidence to show that some people are waiting months for cars, people are receiving cars with the wrong VINs or owned by other people, cars are piling up in funny places, etc. While it’s easy to blame “delivery hell” also known as “incompetence,” I suspect that there is a more nefarious reason for these issues. Somehow or another, Tesla is gaming the working capital and depreciation numbers, ultimately flowing into COGS and profits. They are focused on an epic blow-out quarter so that they can raise additional capital and keep their scheme alive into 2019. Besides, why else have they lost their entire accounting department (CAO twice) this year? Accountants don’t usually leave a business when it’s about to have a blow-out quarter—unless they want to avoid prison.

Q3 will be the high-water mark. They have now almost fully worked through their backlog of high-margin cars, the model 3 is a certifiable lemon, demand is evaporating and when sales comp negative, the working capital build will go in the other direction. In the interim, they have two sizable maturities between now and March 2019. If they cannot pop a financing very soon, the game is over.

I’m glad I booked my 2019 put spread—they gamed the quarter just like I suspected they would. I still have my 2020 put spread. I don’t know if Tesla rolls over immediately or takes a few weeks. It depends on how fast people analyze Q3 numbers and start asking the sorts of questions that I am asking. Let’s just say that I have dozens of other questions and the 10-Q hasn’t even been released. I’m on high alert to add to my bearish position using some combination of options. I will probably do it too early—that’s OK. 2019 is the year when Tesla implodes.

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starfcker
starfcker
October 25, 2018 12:25 pm

Sorry Harris Kupperman. You are dumb as a rock. Double down on your stupidity. Wiggling depreciation numbers doesn’t have anything to do with gross revenue rising 2.6 billion dollars in 3 months. Think about that. 4 billion in sales last quarter, 6.6 billion this quarter. Try to fake that. That’s astonishing. Tesla is a monster. The success of model 3 can easily be expanded worldwide. And it’s about to. Does any other company have is compelling of a lineup of products (small SUV, which will probably outsell the model 3, pickup truck, semi that already hauls their batteries from Nevada to California, world’s fastest sportscar) engineered and on the shelf ready to roll out? I didn’t think so. Some days it’s better to go off into a corner and just lick your nuts and realize you blew it.

starfcker
starfcker
  Administrator
October 25, 2018 12:42 pm

That’s why accountants don’t run companies. The short sellers should just take their sodomy like a man. All the bookkeepers in the world can’t touch that top line. Enron was a fraud. But they pretty much perfected private taxation of energy. Goldman quietly picked up their business when they went under and has been running it ever since. (The I.C.E.) Tesla is a different deal. They have designed and engineered and learned how to manufacturer one of the most complicated products on earth, cars. In a way that’s never been done on a large scale. They have 45,000 employees in America and the learning curve has been a rapid one. They now have a company culture that knows how to build cars. They can duplicate anything that they’ve done so far pretty easily and pretty cheaply. I sure wouldn’t bet against them.

starfcker
starfcker
  Administrator
October 25, 2018 12:51 pm
BL
BL
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 12:58 pm

Admin- Star is the only cheerleader for Tesla in the community, you are beating a dead horse. Star never met a fraudulent billionaire huckster he didn’t love.

starfcker
starfcker
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 1:00 pm

Tesla doesn’t need to hide anything , Jim. Enron was always fraud. They were the seventh largest company in the country and they’re only product was taxing energy by manipulating it. Tesla has done the hard work over the last 10 years. They have real infrastructure and real intellectual property and real can do and how to. There now manufacturing a compelling product with heavy demand at a pretty good clip. Everything else they can work out

Da Perfessor
Da Perfessor
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 1:14 pm

Well…as I remember…seems like everybody was admiring Enron’s (and WorldComm, Global Crossing, etc.) “top line” right before they blew up. Because, you know, there was NO bottom line.

If they are truly “in the black” then I really need to see where “the green” is. Wayy too easy to put lipstick on the pig by fudging A/P or “accidental” posting of sales deposits as assets (maybe contract sales) instead of the actual liabilities that they are. I have seen it done before. We’ll see but I am expecting it to blow up…..

If this makes no sense to you, Star, then you have no business buying any stock . That’s a helpful suggestion, NOT snark.

A lot of accountants would not be able to run a company but no thoughtful CEO would try managing his company without a good scorekeeper reporting honest books.

Da P

starfcker
starfcker
  Da Perfessor
October 25, 2018 1:31 pm

You’re so full of shit. What was Enron’s product? You can’t answer that, because they didn’t have a product. Musk is an awesome CEO. You sound like those fools who said Trump should have better manners and not fight back. So you should lay down and die, right? Dimwit

Da Perfessor
Da Perfessor
  Da Perfessor
October 25, 2018 5:21 pm

Hopium is a drug.

Drugs are bad. Mmmm-kay?

But hey, it’s your money, have at it.

Da P

starfcker
starfcker
  Da Perfessor
October 25, 2018 5:35 pm

I’m sorry I’m confused. What was Enron’s product again? it’s the most basic of questions, in the plainest of English.

Da Perfessor
Da Perfessor
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 5:52 pm

Okay, plain English answer(s) as I remember from interactions back in the day….

Electricity
Natural Gas
Communications
Pulp and paper

I kinda note that I don’t get the reciprocal right to demand any understanding of accounting so won’t bother.

And, below…your comment about businesses, “They’re all perpetual motion machines.” I must have missed that despite being in the C-suite for nearly twenty years. Always seemed like we had to put hard-earned energy (cash and sweat) and a bunch of risk into it. And I was never in a business where company or customers got taxpayer money.

I’m not going to argue with you, you’re a true believer. It is possible that you might be right.

Just saying that it sure smells like fraud because I cannot make the numbers work beyond the “top line”.

Da P

starfcker
starfcker
  Da Perfessor
October 25, 2018 6:10 pm

Now we can have a conversation. I promise to be polite. Enron and Theranos were frauds from the get. There were no actual working products. There are no tax credits available to Tesla that are not available to the customers of any automaker producing electric vehicles. Should the buyers not take them? I believe the officers and employees of Tesla have put in monster effort to get the company where it is right now. Just like any other company. I’m not a true believer. I just recognize the model that Tesla is built on, it’s one I’ve used myself, on a smaller scale. And it broke out right where it was supposed to. Legitimate question, what numbers can you not get to work? Let me know and I’ll take a stab at it

Da Perfessor
Da Perfessor
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 9:14 pm

“Electricity
Natural Gas
Communications
Pulp and paper”

3 of the 4 are products readily in demand and subject to end-of-day price discovery and hedging where necessary. And you are claiming that Enron has no product (though they did) but now we “know” that they were a fraud from the beginning? You clairvoyant?

Star, I am having to deal with the fallout of their little escapade with Anderson cooking the books now forcing all my companies’ leases (beyond 12 months term) onto the balance sheet! When all FASB really had to do was enforce the rule of “one set of books only!”

What numbers can I not get to work? Well the author did a pretty good job of explaining the problem of diminished costs in the face of rising revenue…in manufacturing for Pete’s sake. And the “free cash flow” looks a bit sketchy as does “profit” as I have previously explained. (Simply put, “if you are in the black, where’s the green?)”

Then, a more practical problem for a going concern… I don’t see how the after-market works on these cars. When it comes to depreciation (tied hard to re-sale value) I got nuthin….no clue as to how to handle that.

Plus, they are not building out a back end for servicing/repair…which kinda compounds my last point.

“Previously owned” market value is crashing hard on vehicles WITH these facts known. At the end of the day, how is this going get sales from the general (and steadily diminished in buying power) public?

Talk among yourselves, a client needs me to come fix a production problem, I will not be back before the thread is stale.

Like I noted earlier, Star, it’s your money. I wish you the best and good luck.

Da P

PS. Scrolling down, I see that Llpoh weighed in – – “bigly”. Have fun storming the castle, Star!

starfcker
starfcker
  Da Perfessor
October 26, 2018 12:19 am

We’ll do it another day, be well.

starfcker
starfcker
  Administrator
October 25, 2018 2:44 pm

“Have you noticed the auto industry is in free fall? Do you think Tesla will sidestep the multi-year downturn that has already begun?” Consider another alternative. That downturn is partially a result of Tesla’s disruption. I don’t see a down turn in their sales, unlike BMW and Mercedes. They can’t make cars fast enough

Llpoh
Llpoh
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 6:53 pm

Shows what you know. Accounts run many companies. And the financial officer is generally second in command if not the CEO. Why? Because in the end running a business is ALL about profit and numbers.

starfcker
starfcker
  Administrator
October 25, 2018 3:28 pm

Why did they do that at the end of the quarter the last two quarters? Because that’s what you do if you want to win. Every company that wins does that. You try to hit numbers. That’s not stupid, that’s awesome. Have we forgotten as a country what it takes to compete and win? The alternative to what Musk is doing is to roll over and let scolds win the day. Eric Peters writes daily long anti Tesla diatribes for 100 bucks , what does that do for America? Elon Musk employees 45,000 people just at Tesla. Yet somehow there’s people that think Eric Peters opinion matters? Fuck them, they contribute nothing to society, and nothing to the economy. I would not be surprised to see Musk do to the financial system what Trump has done to the political system. Start calling out the gross manipulation that keeps Wall Street in control. He has fuck you money, and he doesn’t need Wall Street any longer. Watch

starfcker
starfcker
  Administrator
October 25, 2018 3:33 pm

Oh, I’ll figure that one out for you, Jim, IT’S FROM 2016. And they’re still here and they’re on track. Awesome job. Ask yourself, what has Charley Grant ever done. Nothing. Just another checkbook journalist. On the other hand you’ve got a guy that’s built a 25 billion dollar a year company, and employs 45,000 Americans with breadwinner jobs.

bigfoot
bigfoot
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 4:33 pm

Top line sales can’t be fudged, you say? Ever heard of “forward selling?” That’s when you ship products out to your distributor warehouses or your parking lots and as the product sits there you add numbers to your accounts receivable and to your sales columns.

Musk is a great CEO, you say? What great CEO has ever based his business on getting tax rebates on his products? Oh, yeah, the solar CEOs. Great businesses all.

What you can’t fudge is free cash flow. The accounting guys at Tesla most likely jumped ship over that Muskinan fraud. We see that as sales increased, expenses went down. It’s like the perpetual motion machine there at Tesla, except that the accountants work into the night pushing levers that in daylight appear to work magically.

starfcker
starfcker
  bigfoot
October 25, 2018 4:38 pm

Ever been near a real business? They’re all perpetual motion machines. Those tax credits have been available to every automaker since their inception. You know, the ones that everyone keeps saying are going to kick Tesla’s ass. Someday. Further and further into the future. Look at their sales trajectories. Look at Tesla’s. What are you missing Common sense, maybe?

bigfoot
bigfoot
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 7:20 pm

I’ve owned quite a few businesses and was president of a Nasdaq traded company. What Musk suffers from is called “Founders Syndrome.” These people are very good at starting businesses and funding them with other peoples’ money, but they resort to every devious means to run the companies. They are like giant seagulls flying around the office crapping on everything and everyone. Musk is nothing new and he’s gonna go down like they all do.

Fuh-Q
Fuh-Q
October 25, 2018 5:02 pm

So buy a model 3 already or buy their stock, star loser.
And then go smoke pot with Elon and fellate him when he deigns to allow you to do so.
Those of us who prefer margins of safety in our investments will avoid investing with such a company and leader.
And we’ll continue driving cars that aren’t stranded stranded for hours and require a research project every time you use it, to see if you can make your destination or figure out to re-route the whole trip in order to recharge the damn thing.

starfcker
starfcker
  Fuh-Q
October 25, 2018 5:13 pm

“Those of us who prefer margins of safety in our investments will avoid investing with such a company and leader.” I’ll bet if I said boo, you would jump like a bitch. If you had bought Tesla stock a few weeks back when I said buy the dip, you would have made about 30% on your money in under a month. What could you be investing in, that would cause you to avoid free money? Fellate that.

BL
BL
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 6:37 pm

Star- You’re getting shellaced , why do you have this insatiable need for ridicule? Elon is a fraud, Tesla cars are shit. Face it Star, before you completely loose face.

You don’t own their stock or drive their product.

starfcker
starfcker
  BL
October 25, 2018 6:45 pm

“You don’t own their stock or drive their product.” Exactly, Bea. I’m a dispassionate analyst of the company. I scratch my head as to how people get so worked up about this. I’m not a hater. I admire people with the audacity to do big things. Particularly if they pull them off. Tesla is performing precisely as I predicted it would. How am I losing face?

BL
BL
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 7:59 pm

Losing “BIGLY” is not a major award Star.

starfcker
starfcker
  BL
October 25, 2018 8:02 pm

Losing? They turned on a dime exactly as predicted. How is that losing?

BL
BL
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 8:12 pm

I am speaking to the vehicle production only here Star. Tesla cars are crap, Elon is a fraud with a capital F. Elon will go the way of the Dodo bird and .gov will covertly run that company in another capacity.

Fuh-Q
Fuh-Q
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 6:39 pm

I will never invest in TSLA. I don’t care what the stock does.
As for you, show us a screenshot of your brokerage account.
Better yet, borrow as much as you possibly can and buy TSLA to the greatest extent possible. It’s a sure thing, right?
Put your ass on the line.
But until then, kiss off, keep jacking off (to Elon), and Fuh-Q.

Truth haters suck Donkey Balls
Truth haters suck Donkey Balls
October 25, 2018 6:45 pm

You have to give Star credit on this topic. He is a pitbull and ain’t backing down. I’ll keep watching. Personally, I can’t imagine Tesla going out of business. Not because I’m a number guy, it’s just that I don’t think we live in a universe where numbers matter? Plus big daddy government will keep any company afloat it wants to.

Llpoh
Llpoh
October 25, 2018 6:51 pm

I am just guessing here, but my guess is they booked sales on cars not delivered. That will show up as increased accounts receivable – ie we sold them but no one paid for them yet! I have seen this many times, and I have seen senior execs perp walked by cops out of factories for doing this. Also, I have seen product booked as built when they have not even been started yet. This artificially increases inventory, improving the bottom line.

Depreciation of tooling is another area that really looks strange. Tooling is generally written off by piece produced. That depreciation number is very strange.

This smells bad. What was the cashflow?

When the order banks dry up -and they are because they are running out of customers that want the big dollar 3s – the shit will hit the fan.

Tesla is toast.

starfcker
starfcker
  Llpoh
October 25, 2018 7:04 pm

Head No GIF - Find & Share on GIPHY

Llpoh
Llpoh
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 7:15 pm

Adding a nail to the coffin, here is the latest reliability report:

Brands’ average reliability score

1. Lexus 78

2. Toyota 76

3. Mazda 69

4. Subaru 65

5. Kia 61 (tie)

6. Infiniti 61

7. Audi 60

8. BMW 58

9. Mini 57 (tie)

10. Hyundai 57

11. Porsche 54

12. Genesis 52

13. Acura 51

14. Nissan 51

15. Honda 50

16. Volkswagen 47

17. Mercedes-Benz 47

18. Ford 45

19. Buick 44

20. Lincoln 43

21. Dodge 40

22. Jeep 40

23. Chevrolet 39

24. Chrysler 38

25. GMC 37

26. Ram 34

27. Tesla 32

28. Cadillac 32

29. Volvo 22

Uh-oh. Tesla cannot even make an electric engine care that runs reliably. That sound you here is the Death March for Tesla. A reliability score of 32 and a ranking of 28 out of 29. Buy a Tesla, get plenty of walking in!

starfcker
starfcker
  Llpoh
October 25, 2018 7:21 pm

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Llpoh
Llpoh
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 7:29 pm

Yep, that is what every Tesla investor deserves. Instead will just have to settle for them losing their money.

Uber wealthy suck diseased Donkey Balls
Uber wealthy suck diseased Donkey Balls
  starfcker
October 25, 2018 11:51 pm

Star,

How to I put a gif in here?

starfcker
starfcker
  Uber wealthy suck diseased Donkey Balls
October 26, 2018 12:10 am

I’ve been getting them off of giphy on touch screen. Just Google what you want. To get the ones above, I googled, shake head no GIF, and slapping some bitches GIF. Giphy pops up first. Select that, it will give you a bunch of choices, scroll through and find what you want. Press down on it, and some options pop up. Look for copy gif. Press that, and then just paste it in the comment box here.

KaD
KaD
October 25, 2018 7:05 pm

Not surprised, I mean, the guy can barely get a car off the assembly line for months/years and all of a sudden turns it around? I doubt it.

Uber wealthy suck diseased Donkey Balls
Uber wealthy suck diseased Donkey Balls
October 25, 2018 11:48 pm

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