As early as next week we’ll be hearing long speeches from those paragons of virtue, Schumer, Pelosi, & Ilk, who lead such morally exemplary lives that they have now acquired God-like powers, such as, being able to ascribe immorality to a Wall. A few weeks later, Saint MAGA will be giving a State Of The Union speech (a Holy Ritual in which not even one teeny tiny little falsehood will be uttered).
Nothing disgusts me more about life in America than this culture’s wholesale abandonment of Virtue.
Even as the above sentence is being read, how many hundreds of people have already stopped reading or, have already formulated a negative response to what they “know” will be a hypocritical rant from a Chicken-Choking addicted moron? After all, Virtue is soooooo …. Old School! It’s a nice thing to have, and we ought to strive for it (at least on Sunday) but, at the end of the day, politics is inherently dirty and this thing called Virtue is impractical and irrelevant.
The overwhelmingly prevalent attitude today across all spectrums (Democrat, Republican, Conservative, Independent, male, female, etc., etc.) defines morality (Virtue) thusly; a moral leader is one who uses the power of high office to bring about laws and policies that clarify national ideas, inspires the people, and brings together society towards greatness.
To further clarify, the definition of a moral leader today has virtually NOTHING to do with fearing God, personal rectitude, being faithful to a spouse or renouncing untruths and devious business practices.
Just this past weekend on Sean Hannity’s radio show he beat to death the idea that “Trump’s supporters JUST DON’T CARE about Trump’s private life!!”. In other words, to hell with morality! (A rather drastic change in position when Clinton was President and Hannity, Limbaugh and ilk ranted for eight long years about the importance of personal morality.)
In one national poll after another Americans through the years have become ever more willing to put up with leaders with personal flaws, even serious ones. Only about 15% of the public said it was most important that Presidents serve as moral role models; while about 3 in 4 said it was more important that Presidents do their job well.
Perhaps Americans subconsciously realize that the ability to combine personal purity with the political skills to lead the nation toward greatness has eluded most Presidents. After all, long before Donald Trump was grabbing his share of pussy, Thomas Jefferson was boinking black slaves when no one was looking.
Nevertheless, I simply have not yet grasped the mental gymnastics a person must employ to trust a person like Donald Trump. When man breaks the most solemn vow of his entire life — a vow made before man and God — to be faithful and true to his wife, and then proceeds to repeatedly break that promise, and with multiple women, then what kind of neuronic gyrations are going on in such a brain to foment this idea; “Hey, I can trust this guy!“??
It wasn’t always like this. Let’s go far back in time when humanity actually thought things through to their logical conclusion. Specifically, read this excerpt from Sophocles’ “ANITGONE”.
Wonders are many, and none is more wonderful than man;
The power that crosses the white sea, …
He snares the light-hearted race of birds, and the tribes of savage beasts, and the creatures of the deep sea ….
He puts the halter around the horse’s neck,
And rings the nostrils of the angry bull,
He has devised himself a shelter
— against the rigors of frost and the pelting rains.
Speech and science he has taught himself,
And artfully formed laws for harmonious civic life….
Only against death he fights in vain.
But clear intelligence, a force beyond measure
— moves to work both good and ill ….
When he obeys the laws and honors justice,
— the city stands proud.
But man swerves from side to side,
— and when the laws are broken, and set as naught,
— he is like a person without a city,
— beyond human boundary,
— a horror, a pollution to be avoided.
Never may he share my home, never think my thoughts, who does these things!
Charles Freeman in his book The Closing of the Western Mind had this to say about this passage;
“The closing line of this famous speech are a reminder that the great achievements of the Greeks in the use of rational thoughts have to be set within the wider context of their views of just government and correct moral behavior.”
Isocrates (Athens 436-338 B.C.) looked back at the great men of Athens — Themistocles the hero of the Persian Wars, Pericles, etc. — and noted that these men used rhetoric solely for the good of the state. What was vital to the success of Athens, he said, was the moral independence and integrity of the speaker, and training in moral responsibility was the essential part of rhetoric the people could believe in. He wrote;
“The stronger a person desires to persuade hearers the more he will work to be honorable and good and to have a good reputation among the citizens.”
The great Roman orator Cicero wrote in Institutio Oratoria “an upright character and high ideals are presented as the fundamental qualities of a good speaker.”
Now, regardless of your political affiliation, ask yourself; “Are there even 5 men or women such as Sophocles and Cicero described in the American Congress?” I’m guessing that your answer, as mine, is a resounding “NO!!!”.
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INTERLUDE:
I see the prosperity of the wicked — Donald with his Billions and Nancy with her multitude of Millions. There will be no pains in their death; Their bodies are fat. They are not in trouble as other men, nor plagued like most of mankind. They wear their pride lie a diamond studded necklace; The garment of violence covers them. Their eye bulges from fatness; The imaginations of their heart run riot. They mock, and wickedly speak of oppression; They speak from on their high places and set their mouths against heaven and earth, And their tongue parades through the earth and they say “How can anyone stop us? Not even God knows!” Yeah, these are your wicked leaders, always at ease, forever increasing in wealth … while you and I are stricken all day long, chastened every morning as we keep our own hearts pure in vain. But, Martin Luther King said “”The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.” Then I went into the sanctuary of God and understood their end. God will set them on slippery places. He will cast them down into destruction. In the twinkling of an eye they will all be brought into desolation … and they will be utterly consumed with terrors.
END INTERLUDE
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So, why do we even listen to these people?? When will you stop believing Lucy won’t move the football? Why do you think Red is better than Blue, or Blue is better then Red? How many times will you let them defecate on your dreams before you scream out “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!!”? When will you use your rope and lead?
No empire has ever lasted forever. They all fall eventually, and for myriad of reasons. But, I could make a case (perhaps in another article) that Moral Corruption is a common thread in virtually every instance, and that it is a catalyst which greatly speeds up the crash. How can America escape what no other Empire ever has? [It won’t] Can we survive even another 20 years? [I doubt it.]
Sooooo …. next time you hear a speech from these frauds who “swerve from side to side” remember the words from Sophocles — that these people are a HORROR, and a POLLUTION to be AVOIDED.
And that includes roughly 535, plus The Golden One. God help us all.
“What BALLS they have! And I’m not referring to brave courage. More likened to arrogant lack of shame, with self perceived superiority, abusing power.”
-the modern day Greek sage, –Testicles
You lost me at ‘Virtue’; I was laughing so hard trying to reconcile this concept with politicians that I fell out of my chair and passed out from lack of oxygen.
Stuck – I have long given up hoping that people will require leaders to be persons of good character. To me, if you are not of good character, I do not want you in a position of authority. We have not had someone of good character as president for a long time, or even as a senior leader. The answer that “they are good at their job so it does not matter” is bullshit. It matters.
My sentiments exactly.
The other day on here I said both parties are equally corrupt and got the expected chorus of 1/3 of Republicans are honest and The freedom Caucus is honest. My reply to that is that if it were true, then their honesty would compel them to resign in protest or expose the corruption. To do the latter would mean having kiddie porn found on your hard drive or walking backwards into a knife 24 times in Rock Creek Park. In which case it would bring us back to Zero honest congressmen/women/congresstrannies/fags/dykes/hermies etc.
Over the past few weeks I saw Carlson ask Freedom Caucus guys “so who in leadership stopped you or this?” We now all know McCain, Ryan and Kinzinger were conspiring with the Dhimmicrats against Trump from day one yet not one would say Ryan, although a couple grinned at the suggestion. Republicans grin and cower while Muslim filth Democrats call the President a mother fucker in public, and of course also throw all pretense under the bus as they vote for Nancy after swearing high and low they would not.
“Parliament of Whores” anyone?
Flea,I stated I thought 80% of Freedom Caucus was honest. Using the 80/20 rule. I was wrong it is 20% is (maybe)honest. Gave you thumbs up. The only difference between Democrats and Republicans is that the Republicans say they love me and kiss me before I get fucked.
Stucky. Been thinking about this topic a lot lately. Was almost tempted to write something about it.
I think virtue has been pushed aside for what is practical. And since we live in a society that is by and large corrupt, what is practical is also corrupt. Our laws are therefor corrupt, which means both those at the top of our political food chain (and those at the bottom) are corrupt too.
Virtue is now the realm of certain segments of the middle class. And of course, as the middle class gets squeezed by corruption on either end they too follow the pattern.
Frankly – watching it happen and being unable to stop it as it rolls over us like a freight train is exhausting some days. What makes it even harder to take is the constant virtue signalling that comes from the worst offenders (who are anything but virtuous).
I think it’s a big part of the reason I don’t feel like writing these days. It’s hard enough to keep myself from saying “Fuck it, I quit”. Sometimes I’d like to just walk away and watch it all burn. Maybe I could hide out in my parent’s basement?
Then I think maybe it’s just all a part of the cycle and it will end soon?
Or were we ever virtuous? David had several wives over his lifetime. God still loved him. Perhaps it’s a matter of degree?
Excellent point FM. I don’t see that we were ever virtuous. It would be impossible to name a politician who was virtuous. Even if you were to point at the one of them managed to do one virtuous thing, there would an endless line of unvirtuous skeletons lined up in his closet. Virtue is not a prerequisite for leadership and in fact one would have to assume that virtue would be an impediment to leadership.
The virtuous life is NOT one that requires perfection. As FM pointed out about David … who was a sex fiend and a murderer … yet still commended by God.
Not that I’ve read a lot of books about Virtue …. but, I did read Bill Bennett’s “The Book of Virtues: A Treasury of Great Moral Stories” …. a magnificent read from cover to cover.
Well …. great minds think alike!! Go ahead and write about it … but, I warn you, it IS a difficult thing to write about without sounding all preachy and self-righteous.
We are alike in many ways, ESPECIALLY this —-> “Fuck it, I quit.” The last thing I think about before I fall asleep is very very often ‘What a fucked up world this is, I wish I could get off.’.
I resemble that remark. Love of my family and the natural world is about all that keeps me motivated most days.
before I fall asleep is very very often ‘What a fucked up world this is, I wish I could get off and then I ask for forgiveness from God and I ask God to bless me with courage and guidances and that I do follow whatever wish God expects of me up to and including my life.
I’m on God’s side
Me too Me Too!
“Fuck it, I quit.”
Me Too.
Stucky, you frequently amaze me. This is masterful. Thank you.
Thank you.
At least you “get it”.
Of the few comments made several have indicated that virtue doesn’t matter. I’ll never understand such people. And if such people ever came to my home I’d follow them everywhere, lest they steal my valuables.
Stucky, I agree with Rob, this was brilliant. What an awesome few days here with the posts from you and Unc and of course the tour de force of Admin’s latest.
I’ve seen it often repeated here that might makes right, the ends justify the means, principles are for losers and you have to fight fire with fire. I just wonder what sort of civilization that leaves us with in the end?
Lost in the eternal war betwixt and between good and evil!
This is a really excellent article .
thank you Stucky.
RE: “Thomas Jefferson was boinking black slaves when no one was looking.” Fail. No one knows for sure if this is true. All we know is that someone related to Jefferson–not necessarily Jefferson himself–was involved.
FWIW I recently learned Sally Hemmings, TJ’s supposed paramour, was his wife’s half sister and looked just like her. Jefferson took up with her after his wife, her sister passed. Nothing like having spares handy, eh? Jefferson’s father-in-law was definitely boinking the slaves.
all I want is competent and rational administrators and legislators
virtue is over rated
There are no competent and rational administrators and legislators. They’re all immoral psychopaths. All I want is to be left alone.
When was the last time we ever had a virtuous leader? If infidelity is one of the measures, haven’t most leaders throughout history been lacking in virtue? Sure it would be nice to have virtuous leaders. It just seems like a naive thing to wish for. We’re more likely to get a balanced budget.
This country is in a political anarchy brought on by a lack of principles in anything but serving oneself. We have breakdown in rule of law, with so many laws and regulations that if the powers that be want you they can get you. This country is falling apart right now in front of us. Simply amazing.
The most corrupt political scum in America, Illinois’ four decade Democrat leader Mike Madigan is now doing a smily face commercial about how the Democrats in Illinois are for you!
This country is in a political chaos brought on by a lack of principles in anything but serving oneself.
There fixed it for you. There is a huge difference between chaos and anarchy. One doesn’t necessarily portend the other.
I could barely be happier with President Trump, irregardless of who he fucks.
Fuck the Paris Climate Accord. Nobody has stood up to these Carbon Tax Carpet Baggers but him. This revenue stream was going to be used to set up our New World Order Globalist Totalitarian Nightmare.
Seems pretty fuckin moral to me.
He told the UN to fuck themselves with their destroy Western Civilization, UN Migration Pact, which would have insured unlimited and eternal Forced multicultural enrichment on us.
Also seems pretty fuckin moral too me.
He deep sixed the completely fascist TPP which would effectively put our Sovereignty below the Multinationals.
Moral?
Basically he has interrupted the entire Globalist agenda, kicking the whole program squarely in the balls, promoting American Nationalism, driving his America hating opponents into derangement.
But hey at least you got Mitt Romney agreeing with you.
That’s nice.
He also told cops to go ahead and take your guns, and worry about the legality of it after. He is also for asset forfeiture, has not made any attempt to build the wall, let Sessions allow an unwarranted investigation, did not lock up Clinton, etc.
Fuck Trump.
What? Dude, read your post, maybe edit or rewrite something worth considering, instead of some load of flippant bullshit.
Otto – not fucking flippant. Every word is true.
Re guns he said “I like taking guns away early,” Trump said. “Take the guns first, go through due process second.”. I mean, that is seriously fucked up.
“On July 19, 2017, the Department of Justice issued a policy directive that expands police and law enforcement agencies’ rights to seize property from people not charged with a crime”. Last time I looked Trump was president and had effective control there. That is fucked up.
He did not remove Sessions immediately when he recused himself. What a pussy. He did not order Clinton investigated. What a fucking pussy.
And he sure as hell did not build the wall while controlling both houses. What a motherfucking pussy.
You Trumpsters are full of shit if you cannot see what a lying piece of shit pussy he is.
Llpoh- Evil looks at evil lustfully, decent people turn their head with disgust and are sickened. Virtue is NOT in Ottomaytag’s vocabulary.
Only one good thing I can say about Trump – he’s not Hillary.
I figured Trump a wealthy man might be a horndog. I liked his talk about the second amendment and hoped he would get rid of the gov. mandate for insurance. Not be a total pussy. So far he is doing ok.
DC is full of corrupt jackasses, Many pushing communism.
Trump is just “OK”. Comparatively speaking, that’s just marginally better than his opponents.
The real point is, he could be doing better than simply pissing off the ProgTards. He could be walking the walk instead of just talking sh*t on Twitter about it.
We deserve better but where is it?
We deserve better, but we’re talking about Washington, D.C, full of perverts, womanizers, pedos, Neo-Cons, warmongers and lunatic liberals. They gravitate to power and you get few choices to vote for, all problematic.
A huge ship takes miles to turn around. I labor under the hope it is being done but also know it is very immature of any of us to think anything can happen beyond the snail’s pace when millions oppose and can obstruct.
You folks are incredible ! Admin, Uncola, the scrabbled up farmer, shit, the names are too many to list, really !
Call them what you want; illuminati, skull n bones, Jesuits, …………I’ll call em a bunch of gawd dam FREEMASONS!! And the crap show we been livin’ in is all planned theatre.
Prov 29:2
When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.
But for the good woman I have that loves me, I’m right there with you on the ‘phuck it’ part. In this past year, after a long hard fight, I lost my dead daddy’s house to the rest home and reverse mortgage company to fight over, old mom is still rackin’ up about 5500 month in rent, I had a heart attack ( small time construction projects), resulting in a couple of stints and then a quadruple bypass, a week later released from the hospital, and the very next morning my brother in law (divorced for over 20 yrs. and for the past 11yrs. had taken his mother in when father in law passed) was dead in his bed from a heart attack ! He had retired two months earlier from aircraft assembly (excellent pension), and never drew up a will. His two sons immediately evicted their 84 yr. old grandma, and my wife and I had to buy a small two bedroom house (there went my wife’s meager pension) a couple of houses down from ours……..only part of what we’ve had drop on us…….but me and Murphy have always been close.
Oh, no. Ordo. I’m sorry to hear about all of your health problems and family problems. The fact that someone could evict their grandmother, especially a grandmother in her 80s, is monstrous. You’re a good man for doing what you can for her. I hope your health will improve and you experience some calm in your life.
Thanks for the kind words ! The part that is hard for me to understand, given that both of his sons have aircraft powerplant jobs that pay exceptionally well, is how they just had the dam lawyer send the letter. Under intestate law, I still think the distribution of his estate could have been challenged. His kids barely came around, and his intent (obviously) was to provide for his mother ! The ole’ red dirt farmgirl says “That won’t give me my son back, just let ’em have it”
Maggie went through something similar. Failing to provide for an old wife (in favor of a young concubine) or robbing old widows gets special mention in the bible. I guess da lawd takes a dim view of such shenanigans. Even with his last breath, Jesus made sure the bros knew their responsibility to the aged Mary.
To answer the proverbial What Would Stucky Do (WWSD)? I would have fired off a letter to these motherfuckers’ employer to let them know what kind of vermin they have working for them.
So, why do we even listen to these people??
A good question Stucky….
For too many it seems to be buried in their virtue this need to avoid the happenstance of cognitive dissonance.
This article reminds me of the old cartoon titled ‘Two Martini Walk on the Beach’ where the character takes two steps and faceplants into the water. Stuck got 10 reasonable comments before the Trumpeteers arrived to excuse the pussy-grabber in chief. Didn’t Trump brag before the election that he was now so popular, he could grab pussy in the middle of Times Square and nobody would say a word? Maybe that was John Lennon.
I like pussy, not yours, but generally. Apologies I didn’t roll over and confirm Trump is unfit cuz he likes pussy too much. The article was well written and full of enjoyable antiquity, the point drew fire.
Hey, at least TBP isn’t a fuckin echo chamber….
That was mean, Otto.
Actually, Trump said he could shoot somebody and nobody would care.
And Lennon grabbed enough but nobody cared, except his wife.
Vix, I knew that. I was being silly. Are you ready for the rumble in the swamp?
EC- Is that the rumble in the UNDRAINED swamp? Dare I say the larger more polluted swamp than was apparent when DT became the Potus Puppet?
OK, Silly. Yes, I’m ready for an earthquake in the swamp with a tsunami that washes them away.
Cynthia or Screechy?
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Lennon said the B-52s sounded like stuff he and Yobo had been experimenting with. It does sound a bit like Rock Lobster.
That’s correct, El Coyote. In an interview with the B-52s, they said they were highly influenced by Yoko Ono, among others. But what they did turned out was much better. The only Yoko singing I can tolerate is on “Double Fantasy.”
I like Cynthia much better.
And I liked Princess Di better, there’s just no accounting for Brits’ taste in women. I don’t know what Harry sees in Meghan Ocasio-Cortez.
It’s that “Jungle Love” Harry be lovin’ with Meghan. Once you go black, you never go back EC.
I tease the sexy mulatta – You could have married royalty.
Stuck,
First of all, let me say this piece was pretty phenomenal and your interlude approaches poetry.
Here’s how I see it: Trump is a man of his time and, perhaps, a reflection of America’s current WWE/Reality TV culture. Decency and demures were set aside decades ago, so what we are seeing now is the end game.
To those who support Trump, he is merely the vehicle by which to get even with the politically correct hypocrites. Trump may not have goods to completely tear down the existing establishment and he will very likely go down in flames. But, in the interim, he Tweets what guys like me are thinking. And watching the PC Crowd melt down, the hypocrisy of the establishment revealed, and the Lamestream Media’s dresses get torn away every day is fun to watch. Sure, we know we’re doomed and Trump likes beautiful women, but at least the snowflakes are getting what they deserve; even if only in part.
Although it is becoming obvious people like Robert Muleface, the Clintons, Rosenclown, and O’Barry may not ever be held accountable for their high crimes and misdemeanors, Trump’s 1/2020th tweet on Pocahontas Warren was hilarious. At least Boy Trump is trustworthy enough to Tweet against all of the Emperors not wearing any clothes.
Of course, it’s not enough, but at this late stage in the game, we’ll take what we can get. No mental gymnastics necessary. It’s a just frickin’ TV show.
Or not
“To those who support Trump, he is merely the vehicle by which to get even with the politically correct hypocrites… Of course, it’s not enough, but at this late stage in the game, we’ll take what we can get. No mental gymnastics necessary. It’s a just frickin’ TV show.”
It’s a show all right. But what kind? A fairy tale? A horror? Comedy? Tragedy/drama?
I guess it depends on the day. In the meantime, while we are being entertained, Rome continues to burn and the natives, at least those paying attention, are growing increasingly restless.
Trump will need to put up or shut up soon or he will lose his base in 2020. Then all bets are off.
It’s a battle of wills now. If the Trumpster caves on the wall, he’s toast.
In the meantime, the trash piles grow on the national mall now looking like a giant phallus with garbage balls.
Not quite as poetic as Stucky’s interlude, but I tried.
Trump is the leader that reflects the time we all live in..
“First of all, let me say this piece was pretty phenomenal and your interlude approaches poetry.”
First, thank you for your kind words. And your own commentary is spot on!! Hey, remember the time way back … when we basically couldn’t stand each other? Heh heh.
Second, when I left yesterday this post was at 19 comments. I arrive today and it’s at 75! Yeah!! Thank you to you, and all the others, who have chimed in.
Lastly, regarding you comment about the interlude …. well, it IS poetry!! It is a passage from Psalm 73. I “doctored” it up to disguise that fact …. cuz if I would have just quoted it as is …. no one would have read it! I’m a sneaky bastard, aren’t I? lol
Dude, I just want to say I’ve always found your honesty inspirational. You do so, even against the risk of not taking yourself too seriously; and in so doing, you put your readers first in ways most may not even recognize. I just checked and now see the similarity of Psalm 73 verses 3 -19 – but, even knowing it served as your template, your interlude is still just as impressive; maybe even more so.
The time to which you are referring, even in my bottomless pit, when I wanted to tear it all down and paint it black, I still looked on you with great favor. You, Admin, Llpoh, Mags, EC, and others, gave me grace I didn’t deserve and when I was close to banishment and/or flouncing, you, personally, gave me a pep talk as one of the adults in the room. When I saw the value here, the community, I no longer desired to test the boundaries. I admitted I was wrong and you said if I meant it, y’all “could” be a “forgiving bunch” (or something similar). Honestly, I doubted that. Even so, I told ya I meant it and I’d prove it. It was a long road back, but still fun, and with more than a few setbacks (my apologies to dear Rose). I’m still not there yet, but I’m better than when I started. Less anger, less fear. Community will do that to ‘ya. Even one full of people ‘ya may never meet.
In closing, Stuck, I’ll tell you this: I think your above piece should be picked up by ZH, Lew Rockwell and others
I would like to add a word to this discussion; Repentance.
Without it, the man who wrote “Amazing Grace” would never have been accepted as a Christian and would be forever labeled as the wretch that he was. Except that he repented.
In the two cases of presidents who were known to be unfaithful husbands, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump for example, has either one repented for their indescretion? When I consider repentance, I am not just talking about making a public statement, but as in the case of John Newton, the composer of Amazing Grace, a changed life according to his conversion.
In comparing Clinton and Trump, it’s pretty obvious in Clinton’s case, the same womanizer he was continues to today, but in Trumps case, surely the MSM would have dug up something juicy to humiliate him in his run for the office of the president. To me, aside from making public apologies that the press would have used to have made him into a Romney whining lap dog of the media, who would have hounded Trump into oblivion, Trumps actions spoke louder than his words ever could have.
My point is this; the media has as its most useful tool, exposed past indiscretions that in their mind, disqualify any they set their sights on as hopelessly wrecked for any future in public office.
If this is your understanding of virtue, you give the rope to the media to hang any that they deem unfit and the green light to their placing in power any they deem virtuous by their “overlooking” any sins they feel are irrelevant to their man for the job.
Not Sure, I understand where you’re coming from, but from what I understand, we really don’t know for sure if Trump had affairs while married to Melania. We know he had affairs in the past, but then he became a Christian. The media is full of Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal, but were these women really seeing Trump or were they just after money, knowing that people with money will simple pay them off rather than go through a costly court case. Considering the negotiations for payoffs to both women went on for so long it makes you wonder who is telling the truth. Why would Trump drag it out if guilty? And based on the reputations of these two women, would you trust what they say? I haven’t seen any proof so far that these women are telling the truth, so I’ll withhold judgment on that aspect.
I am under the impression Trump has become or became much more of a believing Christian since he met Melania. He is the most active President surely in recent years attending religious events, invoking the Lord’s name and the only President to ever actively and openly support right to life events.
I cannot see his soul or read his mind but how many here have come to believe much more strongly that they must follow the path of the Lord or of “morality” etc?
I see the human wreckage every day all around me of the unbelievers, the immoral, the lost.
Bravo Stucky!! That needed to be said and you did it soooo well. You write what most of us feel in our hearts.
Most of us are heartsick witnessing this tragedy day in and day out.
It’s going to get worse. Distractions such as the Warren tweet will not fire up the base. The Coulter fired a shot across his bow. Too bad. He will cave. He’s fucked in so many ways.
The fork in the road has two signs, impeachment or a 2 year Coulter-Limbaugh tongue-lashing. Impeachment might be the better route.
Of course, Coulter and Limbaugh never break a sweat. They don’t have to deal with the idiots. Theirs is easy work paying big bucks.
There was a guy at the street corner trying to start his car and the guy behind him kept honking his horn. After a few minutes of this, the first guy went over to the second car and told the driver, look, why don’t you go try starting my car and I’ll sit here and honk the horn for a while? – Old Pangloss
When you come to a fork in the road, take it. – Yogi Berra
EC – he just needs to grow a pair. He needs to say he will not sign a damn budget of any kind until the wall is funded, he needs to close down the border, he needs to impose a tax on all remittances to Mexico, then go on vacation and play golf. How fucking hard is that?
He needs to order an investigation into Clinton. One phone call will do it.
Etc. This shit is not hard. It really is not.
Back to yesterday’s topic: if they really want to start a war in the western hemisphere, Mexico is ripe for it. How many politicos need to die before people realize they don’t have a government? I bring this up also because the wall would almost certainly precipitate a shooting war there.
Every damn president that came in would seek to quell rebellion and the cartels in a particular area according to who they favored. AMLO is an unknown quantity. Will he clamp down on the cartels or will he cave?
The wall better be up before the shooting starts or we shall see a huge influx of refugees. The other option is to send a “peace-keeping force” there to secure the border.
So, no need for growing a pair, he just needs to get ready for the AMLO revolution to fizzle like Venezuela.
“I bring this up also because the wall would almost certainly precipitate a shooting war there. ”
I have heard many arguments pro-wall and anti-wall. Honestly, this is the very first time I’ve read that a wall could start a war in Mexico. Interesting and provocative! If you have the time, could you explain “why”, or provide a link?
Also, yet again, you’re getting waaaaay to many thumbs down. I regret that I have but one thumb-up to give for My Coyote.
I read that the MIC was looking to start a war in Latin America. We already intervened in Nicaragua, Salvador and Panama. Venezuela seems to be a British-like starvation tactic. The cartels are well armed and have their own communication networks, cell and radio.
It was a wild proposition but for two realities: Dali said Mexico was too surreal for him and the cartels are comprised of descendants of the Aztecs; pioneers in the art of torture. They have no sense of human pity and are not afraid of hell. They have made a pact with the devil and worship Santa Muerte and Jesus Malverde, patron saint of thieves.
I’m not worried about the down-votes, they are like the Pavlovian coke monkeys that are willing to hit the button thousands of times just to get a crack cocaine reward.
Now, imo, THAT’s a sexy look, right there.
Sleeveless white cotton top, sans brassiere.
High beams. Astrology hoots we called them.
Pointing to the stars.
Firm.
A beautiful thang.
Or, as Seger sang: “Tight Pants. Points. Haulin’ a Noun.”
Wife beater, you maroon, it’s a t-shirt so of course there’s no bra under it. Goes great with pressed khakis.
Yessir, I can be dark red at times.
But, if we’re splittin’ hairs, a wife beater isn’t the ID label on a 3-pack of Hanes or Fruit of the Looms in the store.
and a T-shirt has sleeves, albeit short ones.
So garmently speaking, that’s an A-shirt.
And it is on the top portion of her body.
Enough quibbling.
We’re losing focus here.
I was zooming in on the charms beneath it.
The threads merely draw attention to them more effectively.
don’t heap the praise on him too much stucky or he’ll start believing he’s un lobo grande instead of un coyote grande–
One problem Trump will have is now the news is reporting tax refunds will be postponed if the government is shutdown. I think a little executive order bringing in some IRS employees may be called for. If not, people will be pissed and Trump will get the blame. Money is fungible, pull it from somewhere else, like Mueller’s waste-of-time investigation.
Screw that. Hardball all the way is what is needed. Do not give a damn inch. Nothing moves until the wall is funded. Nothing. As I said, time to grow a pair.
You don’t get very far if you start pissing off your base, and many in that base get tax refunds.
That base knew there was going to be an on-going price to pay and I don’t think would care much about delayed tax refunds. Those that do care are the ones at HR Block this week getting their EIC Credits so they can get another gov check … and they aren’t voting for T anyways.
I think the base is far more interested in getting a wall built then worried about having their tax refunds delayed
Yes … and close down all those that are currently regarded as “essential.” All of them. Also, make it clear you will sign no bill that restores pay for time during the shutdown. As it is, about 70% are classed as “essential” and the other 30 (MOL) know they’ll be paid so there is no particular urgency.
Since supposedly over 90% of the government drones who would be cut off are Dhimmicrats, he would be putting it to his enemies who are at home unable to screw up America further while showing mettle. A twofer if ever I saw one.
That supposition came from Trump. We don’t really have stats. It could be 60/40 or 75/25. I lean independent while the gray bitch at work leans heavily Republican, so I call it 50/50.
Why are all the laid off government workers mad at Trump? Why aren’t they telling the Dems “give him his fucking wall.”
Stupid question I guess.
He’s not going to be impeached. What I would be worried about more than anything is that nothing will happen.
It’s like when you have a loved one that is very ill. The worst part is not knowing what the problem is. You can endure a terrible disease if you know what it is because you can develop a plan and fight back. But when you’re in limbo and you never really know what is happening then you are POWERLESS TO ACT.
This is where we are right now. We are in limbo – somewhere between justice and failure without knowing which direction the body is actually headed. It is demoralizing. Many of us can deal with adversity or with success equally – whichever comes our way. But not knowing?
Limbo is hell.
Are you saying he’s going to resign first, Nixon style? He seemed to telegraph as much when he said he wouldn’t be around for the market crash.
Here is what I think will happen: nothing. To be followed by even more nothing and to be framed by much name calling, threats, hyperbole, grandstanding and general stupidity.
He will never resign. He knows that the wall must be built to save his Presidency, re-election, legacy and more. I’m willing to die for our sovereignty, and our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Fuck a bunch of Bolsheviks…No Commie Coups!!!
Well, as long as we are making cheap projections, he will fold like a cheap tent on the wall and he will negotiate a deal like Nixon got; resign without prosecution.
At this point I would call this the Ann Coulter shutdown. Had the damn bitch kept her fucking mouth shut instead of goading Trump into a futile display of machismo where diplomacy was needed..but it is something Luis Rodriguez (Always Running) observed – the bitches were often the ones starting the fights between gangs.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-03/coulter-trump-will-fold-border-wall-would-accept-fence-exactly-what-israel-has
Coulter’s just goading him, he is following her lead. If he folds, she can claim she knew he was a pussy all along. If he listens to her, pretty soon she will have him wearing an apron and doing the laundry. Meaning to say that she will expect him to do as she says from now on.
Trump needs to grow a pair and tell Coulter to fuck off. This is a man’s job, she needs to fucking butt out and go feed the cats.
El Doggy says that fucking bitches are not happy until they have the guy doing the housework so they can talk shit with the other bitches at the coven.
Unfortunately FM, if something is going on he can’t really tell us either. Definitely en limbare. Limbo is the perfect word here taken from “en limbare.” It literally means we do not know and if there is a definition it is en limbare or “in the margins” meaning written in the margins of a study Bible or scholarly notes.
Thanks BL. You need to go to the George Washington article I copied and pasted and help get that one to 100. It only has 98 comments to go! lol lol
Not til you apologize for your nasty comment about KY Cat fans.
KY did the trick for this Cat
Stucky, let me just take one sentence that grabbed me and opine/rant:
“No empire has ever lasted forever. They all fall eventually, and for myriad of reasons.”
Yep, and it’s coming close to the time for the American Empire to collapse in on itself from the self-inflicted wounds, the metastasizing internal moral rot, greed, compliancy, allowed illegal invasion and last but not least the too much wealth and comfort leading to what too many do with it…they become fat, lazy and then obese with self-destructive entitlement.
Unbridled multi-generational attacks by our foreign and domestic enema enimies have not only NOT been fended off…their self-described LONG MARCH has trampled and broken the Constitution frame the Founding Framers gave U.S.
For the third time their secret renewed baby steps restarted in 1913 (the third time is the charm) and along with the Frankfort School’s seeping Cultural Marxism…they are publically and proudly goose stepping down main street in 2019…and half of America is cheering!
The Luciferianian Banksters, the Courts they infested that made cuckholds of Congress, the traitor Presidents, the Shadow Government they slipped in year after decade after century, the perversion of our media, of our public education system, of our entertainment complex, of our now filthy sick culture has been upstream for so long too many of U.S. are polluted, sick, wounded, bleeding and staggering. We are a rotting, putrid empire falling down like a bleary drunk.
I said too many – but not me and not a lot of people I read here and a lot of people I know in my Church and town.
Outside an Alamo handful of the 535 who haven’t been bought, bribed or Brown-stoned we are bleeding to death from a thousand cuts.
Is there hope? Of course there is…there always is!
GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED OR SURPRISED.
I make sure I do something…every single day to get ready for the shitstorm coming.
I’m a seriously-armed Prepper, homesteader, free American Patriot, modern day Minuteman who flies Old Glory, The Pine Tree Flag, The Stars and Bars, The Red Globe and Anchor of the Mother Green Killing Machine and last but not least the yellow Don’t Tread On Me warning.
I ran across this poem many years ago and the second I read it I knew I found my battle cry for the rest of my life:
MY ORDERS
by Agnes Ethelwyn Wetherald
My Orders are to fight;
Then If I bled or fail
Or strongly win what matters it?
God only doth prevail.
The servant craveth naught
Except to serve with might.
I was not told to win or lose
My orders are to fight.
One of the Saints said our job is not to win the fight in our lifetime but to insure the fight continues and to do our part in our time to move it forward toward the ultimate victory. Actually some of the “must have victory now” sentiments, while surely understood are little more than our side wanting instant gratification which may not be in the cards. While I would like my victory in my time, the idea of my grandsons trampling our enemies into the dirt in their time is surely a thought to be treasured.
Stucky
You wrote a good article about virtue, which is hard to write about without sounding like a sanctimonious ass. I just posted it.
Happy New Year
Thanks Robert.
You are absolutely correct about the difficulties regarding the topic. What you see here is the second writing. I had to completely trash-can the first writing … as I read what I thought was the final proof read, I thought to myself ….. “Holy crap! I sound like Billy Sunday on steroids.” It was beyond putrid, so I started over from scratch. Never ever had to do that before. lol
Can we please have mandatory drug testing for Congress members? If it’s fitting for the lumpen it’s good enough for them. They’re effen loopy.
I agree with that, Cootie. Maybe we should check for pharmaceuticals as well, such as Alzheimer’s medication.
The entire band of government criminal class know exactly what they are doing to a point where they believe their own lies and for average citizens to band together against their false devisiveness only places them in harms ways from the dependent armed government just doing my job minions who will protect the powers that be so their benefit from the fleecing of Average citizens continues .
It’s to deep now that any people of true honor and integrity will not dirty their hands or sacrifice themselves case in point Judge Kavanaugh
Boater- You obviously don’t know Saint Kavanaugh’s history….good grief.
I heard he drank beer when he was a teenager. The horror.
Francis…….You think judges who sell decisions and leak grand jury info are saints? That’s against the law dilbert.
Well, he’s not Canadian, you know.
That’s right EC, it’s not my problem. The communist in Ottawa is of much bigger concern for me these days.
That being said if he’s guilty of such things he should have his pee pee slapped.
I meant, ah fuck it. If you have to explain it…
I don’t know why I mistook the gist of your jibe on that one. I think I am in a sour mood these days.
If only we Canucks were perfect. Eh?
I totally understand.
ouch
The movie Wild in the Streets warned us about electing hippies to office.
I realized my heart was bitter, all torn up inside.
It’s a sewer my taxes are supporting.
Not as poetic as your interlude. That was a masterful adaptation of Psalm 73. One that I underlined so much, the whole thing is underlined now.
You know what God told Habakkuk was going to happen when he voiced similar complaints about his country? Most likely our fate as well, if we don’t destroy ourselves with a civil war first.
Mary, we can refuse to pay taxes and go to jail like Thoreau. However, taxes are compulsory and you have no say in how they are applied or who benefits. The old social contract has been modified into a protection racket. You feed the beast or you die.
Outstanding. Much to contemplate as we cannot whistle past this graveyard looming before us.
It’s a shame we do not focus more on recognizing the big picture.
100. I win!
Give that man a cigar.
If I had a couple of Ashtons, a torch, a cutter, and was near you, I’d introduce myself, offer you one, and we could enjoy a smoke.
Small glass with something aged, over rocks would compliment it nice, but I wouldn’t, if that’d be too much of a temptation.
-frothy
I appreciate the thought, Sudsy but this is not a good time, I’ve been home too many days and the sexy mulatta is getting tired of seeing me here.
The high hard one will change that attitude EC.
by most accounts jimmy carter was a virtuous man,would you rather have him or trump as potus?
As a great man once sang, Move over, Rover and let Jimi take over.