Bogus Gun Research

Guest Post by John Stossel

Bogus Gun Research

Last week Rep. Nancy Pelosi warned President Donald Trump that if he declared an “emergency” to build a wall, “think what a president with different values can present… Why don’t you declare (the epidemic of gun violence in America) an emergency, Mr. President? I wish you would… A Democratic president can declare emergencies as well.”

Her fellow Democrats Sen. Kamala Harris and Sen. Elizabeth Warren quickly agreed.

Warren tweeted: “Gun violence is an emergency. Climate change is an emergency…”

Yikes.

Not every problem in America should be declared an emergency — or used by a president to justify acting without Congress.

But why are guns on the Democrats’ “emergency” list anyway?

One reason is sloppy reporting by lazy media.

Last year, they claimed that there were school shootings at “hundreds of schools.” It was “an almost daily occurrence” in the U.S., some said.

This was nonsense. NPR reporters looked into the 235 shootings reported by the U.S. Dept of Education and were only able to confirm 11 of them.

It turned out that schools were added to the list merely because someone at a school heard there may have been a shooting. Good for NPR for checking out the Education Department’s claim.

Economist John Lott, president of the Crime Prevention Research Center (and father of one of my producers) spends much of his time researching gun use and correcting shoddy studies.

A few years ago, much of the media claimed that the U.S. has “the most mass shootings of any country in the world.” President Barack Obama added it’s “a pattern now that has no parallel anywhere else.”

CNN and The L.A. Times wrote about “Why the U.S. Has the Most Mass Shootings.” (“The United States has more guns.”)

But the U.S. doesn’t have the most mass shootings, says Lott. It’s a myth created by University of Alabama associate professor Adam Lankford, a myth repeated by anti-gun media in hundreds of news stories.

“Lankford claimed that since 1966 there were 90 mass public shooters in the United States, more than any other country,” says Lott. “Lankford claimed ‘complete data’ were available from 171 countries.”

But how could that be? Many governments don’t collect such data and even fewer have information from before the days of the internet.

A shooting in say, India, would likely be reported only in local newspapers, in a local dialect. How would Lankford ever find out about it? How did he collect his information? What languages did he search in?

He won’t say.

“That’s academic malpractice,” says Lott in my video about the controversy.

I’m not surprised that Lankford didn’t reply to Lott’s emails. Lott is known as pro-gun. (He wrote the book “More Guns, Less Crime.”) But Lankford also won’t explain his data to me, The Washington Post or even his fellow gun control advocates.

When Lott’s research center checked the data, using Lankford’s own definition of a mass shooting, “four or more people killed,” the center found 3,000 shootings around the world. Lankford claimed there were only 202.

Lankford said he excludes “sponsored terrorism” but does not define what he means by that. To be safe, Lott removed terrorism cases from his data. He still found 709 shootings — more than triple the number Lankford reported.

It turns out that not only did the U.S. not have the most frequent mass shootings, it was number 62 on the list, lower than places like Norway, Finland and Switzerland.

There was also no relationship between the rate of gun ownership in different countries and the rate of mass shootings.

If journalists had just demanded Lankford explain his study methods before touting his results, his “more mass shootings” myth would never have spread.

So if Nancy Pelosi, Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren ever follow through on their threat to declare gun violence a “national emergency,” be sure to check their math.

Or just remember the wisdom of the Second Amendment.

Government’s desire to control us — and to lie to make its case — is the real emergency.

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James
James
February 20, 2019 8:29 am

How many people have to die before I will support gun control?…..

All of them.

Really think would make a nice t-shirt.

LibertyToad
LibertyToad
February 20, 2019 8:30 am

I’ve been following 2nd Amendment issues for decades now. Numbers from the mainstream media are, as a rule, maniupated and/or completely false. Also, they completely ignore the 500,000+ annual, legal defensive guns uses that occur in the US–and the 500,000+ is on the low, low end. Even Obama’s study had the same numbers.

StackingStock
StackingStock
  LibertyToad
February 20, 2019 6:13 pm

Plus all the fake mass shootings in the last decade are suspect as fuck.

OutWithLibs
OutWithLibs
February 20, 2019 8:43 am

So if a gun can cause a shooting, can my car cause the speeding, Mr. officer??

TampaRed
TampaRed
  OutWithLibs
February 20, 2019 11:01 am

is yo car a toyota?

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
February 20, 2019 8:46 am

A national emergency on politicized “gun control” could provoke an even bigger crisis. The Democrats would need to control all three branches of government with overwhelming public support. They’d best tread carefully because many people view a desire for potential confiscation as not only a Second Amendment violation, but violation of the Fourth. In my opinion, seizure of physical property without proper compensation is theft.
Guns have a market value, but as a last-ditch insurance policy against lawless goblins and godless tyrants they are priceless. Government will never have enough money to pay for that and many will never be convinced it can.
A free man never gives up his guns. Not ever.

Britt Cook
Britt Cook
  e.d. ott
February 21, 2019 11:34 am

Yahsure indeed! Molon Labe.

yahsure
yahsure
February 20, 2019 8:51 am

Nancy shows the exact reason why we need the second amendment. Eventually, I think guns will be needed to remain free from these socialist/communist psychopaths.

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
  yahsure
February 20, 2019 9:06 am

By their works ye shall know them.
You’re right, Pelosi’s statement was a vengeful warning, threat, and provocation all rolled into one as part of an agenda for an eventual reckoning. This is why fools and the senile Progs like her should’ve never been elected, but there she sits, a symbol of a persistent problem.

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit
February 20, 2019 9:32 am

Those most outspoken about protecting your Second Amendment rights will ultimately be the one’s who order confiscation.

It’s a distraction like when I saw “squirrel” and my dog becomes instantly distracted, they say “Hillary wants your guns!” and you guys ignore their hand in your pocket.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  MarshRabbit
February 20, 2019 11:04 am

rabbit is correct,why did ya’ll down vote him?

overthecliff
overthecliff
February 20, 2019 9:38 am

They will declare national emergencies of various kinds when they have:
1) Enough judges on SCOTUS.
2) Enough politically correct generals.
3) Gun registration.
They will do it when they can pull it off. Morals, legality and constitutionality have nothing to do with it. Itwill be a pure power play.

Old Shoe
Old Shoe
February 20, 2019 9:41 am

My rights come from God. Not Nancy Pelosi or Donald Trump.

Ned
Ned
February 20, 2019 9:42 am

Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not.

anarchyst
anarchyst
  Ned
February 20, 2019 10:15 am

Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will (forced at gunpoint) to plow for those who do not.

Ned
Ned
February 20, 2019 10:37 am

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MrLiberty
MrLiberty
February 20, 2019 10:48 am

This is the reason that EVERYONE MUST OPPOSE ALL GOVERNMENT POWER!!! Everyone sits around gleefully applauding the unconstitutional transgressions of “their” president/congress, etc. because the ENDS make them happy. But then the tyrant from the other major party comes along, uses the previous criminal behavior as a stepping stone for their criminal behavior, and the next thing you know we have America 2019, where neither congress nor the president gives a shit at all about the supposed limits on power imposed by the very clearly written US Constitution. OF COURSE the next democrat is going to use “an emergency” to screw us all. Bush did, Obama did, Trump will, etc. When are we going to learn??

Stucky
Stucky
February 20, 2019 10:56 am

1. People love the PROMISES made by Socialists/Commies. They sound so gooood.

2. The Socialist/Commie pols KNOW their promises are bullshit. But, the people vote for them anyway.

3. It doesn’t take too long before the people realize they were fed a ton of bullshit.

4. The Socialists/Commies will never admit to the bullshit and will even double down, triple down, etc. with ever more bullshit. In other words …. they will never give up their power.

5. Eventually, the people conclude that the only way to MAGA is to ACTUALLY KILL the Socialist/Commie motherfuckers.

6. But, Socialist/Commie motherfuckers are fully aware of Step Five at all times; before they get power, while in power, and to infinity and beyond.

7. This is why Socialist/Commie motherfuckers are, and always will be, in favor of taking away your Means Of Producing Dead Socialist/Commie Motherfuckers.

8: Cling to your guns (and, Bibles, if you’re religious) as if your life depended on it. Because it does.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Stucky
February 20, 2019 11:08 am

“1. People love the PROMISES made by Socialists/Commies. They sound so gooood.

2. The Socialist/Commie pols KNOW their promises are bullshit. But, the people vote for them anyway.

3. It doesn’t take too long before the people realize they were fed a ton of bullshit.”

during the 1917 revolution it was lenin who allegedly called the groups who helped the communists “useful idiots”–

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
February 20, 2019 11:21 am

Are you saying that the man that comes to my door to collect my gun won’t be calling himself a Republican?

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
February 20, 2019 11:46 am

From a link at WRSA:

https://www.designmom.com/a-gun-ban-is-inevitable/

I skimmed it because my time is valuable. But I recommend you at least skim it because these are our enemies and they are Republican (and Democrat)

This is just one of the 147 comments so far.

“Let me make this completely clear.
You are taking our own life into risk here. If a ban is placed, a civil war will erupt between conservatives and the left. It will be worse then the first civil war by the amount of division it will cause. The problem is that only the right has guns. So if you try this, people will hunt you guys for trying to take their rights away.

DESIGN MOMFebruary 25, 2018 at 12:06 amREPLY
Oh good lord.”

So, the author of the piece has no reply to that comment other than “Oh, good lord”

That is what I might say to her reply because she has lost her mind or she never had one to begin with and you can’t argue with these people.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Mary Christine
February 20, 2019 11:52 am

Someone made this comment: “I’m not sure how you would come for the guns, when few records of ownership exist, other than in California, New York, New Jersey, and a couple of other states. Perhaps the ATF would be given the resources to generate ownership lists from paper form 4473 records, but such firearms would be frequently reported as privately sold, stolen, or destroyed.”

Her reply:

“You mean: my prediction will confirm for some what they have always been paranoid about, but has never come close to happening in any way shape or form.

And please don’t respond. I detest when men who don’t read Design Mom come here and lecture this community of incredibly smart, well-educated women”

No intelligent comeback. She basically told the guy to shut up. See what I mean?

Done in Dallas
Done in Dallas
  Mary Christine
February 20, 2019 12:12 pm

I skimmed as well as I know this is one sided BS group think.

I thought about posting this there, but it would be ignored or taken down, but

what about taking responsibility for yourselves? Uncomfortable with the security at your kids school, then home school. Or, go demand more security. Don’t want to take responsibility for your own safety, then don’t prohibit my ability to protect me and mine. That makes you an enemy combatant as far as I am concerned.

Done in Dallas
Done in Dallas
  Done in Dallas
February 20, 2019 3:14 pm

So I read through the above website, got a bit pissed and decided to go up there and throw a few posts up there to troll and try to educate.

5 posts went up OK where I tried to point out how uneducated these knuckleheads are. Then I decided to post something up there for them to think about dealing with violence in kids prescribed SSRI drugs.

I made 2 attempts to post something and both are apparently blocked. Don’t know if it is due to the other posts and they blocked me or is SSRI is some keyword here. Strange

Done in Dallas
Done in Dallas
  Done in Dallas
February 20, 2019 5:42 pm

Went back in and I have been removed. Echo chamber is all they are interested in.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
February 20, 2019 12:56 pm

Any figures regarding guns and gun violence accepted by government or MSM in the US is generally skewed or flat out false to promote confiscation and disarming all American citizens that’s the lefts plan and do not think for one second that either party democrat or republican are not all in when it comes to eradicating any and all protection the bill of rights once assured all Americans !

tageman
tageman
February 20, 2019 7:22 pm

My Fantasy is if a gun emergency is declared Speaker Pelosi will personally come to my neighborhood and
ask the gang members to give up their guns . how many police departments would ignore this order?? and where would this the precedent come from?

stpaulchuck
stpaulchuck
February 20, 2019 11:00 pm

confirmation bias RULES the media in the US (and often elsewhere as well). We even have one editor
at a major dead tree media whinging on that the Smollett fiasco _needed_ (her word) to be true.

bob
bob
February 21, 2019 9:12 am

I believe that guns are on the communist totalitarians’ list because disarming the American people is necessary to provide a shackled and enslaved population. The media promotes the anti gun agenda because they’re bought in on the idea of enslaved humanity, or they are told to do so. The author purports that the communists have the destruction of human freedom on their emergency list because of the rantings of the lapdog, totalitarianistic media, but I’m pretty sure most of us are very aware that the media is merely a device of the forces that want for our enslavement. In short the author got it backwards. The media is prompted by their evil lords, the politicians, not the other way around.

Done in Dallas
Done in Dallas
  bob
February 21, 2019 12:41 pm

Yep. Corporate fascist overlords.