Tesla Goes Up in Smoke… Three Times

Guest Post by Eric Peters

The owner of another Tesla has died – horribly – in Davie, Florida after his car struck a tree and burst into flames.

It then burst into flames again – post mortem – while the carcass was being hauled away to the wrecking yard.

And then once more, at the wrecking yard. News story here.

Unlike other cars, Teslas remain dangerous even after they wreck.

And not just Teslas.

The danger applies to electric cars in general, because the lithium-ion battery packs which power many of them are susceptible to spontaneous combustion if the structure of the battery – its case – is physically damaged as the result of impact forces in a crash and thermal runaway occurs.

Short circuits within the battery release tremendous energy – violently.

And repeatedly.

Think Whack-a-Mole, except with a fire hose.

Electric cars are the only cars – other than Christine, the fictitious ’57 Plymouth with the body by Plymouth and soul by Satan – which can kill multiple times.

With no one behind the wheel.

Or at least, no one still alive.

EVs can kill in other ways, too.

Lithium-ion battery fires are unusually toxic. They release poisonous gasses, including hydrogen fluoride. When this stuff comes into contact with moisture – such as is present on the surface of the human eyeball, for instance – it converts into hydrofluoric acid and that can cause rapid destruction of corneas, resulting in permanent blindness.

Breathing the stuff can cause death from cardiac arrhythmia and fluid build-up in the lungs.

The government seems remarkably indifferent. This is interesting, given the usual (supposed) obsession with our saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaafety.

Why not now?

This is the same government which sics armed goons on people for not wearing seatbelts.

It is the same government which practically crucified VW over a theoretical risk to “public health” – a vague conception based on assertions about the effect of tenths of a percent differences in exhaust emissions from “cheating” diesel-powered cars – which haven’t been shown to have caused actual harm to any actual person.

As opposed to electric cars that have actually killed people – and will kill again.

EVs double-down on the danger of roasting their owners to death – or blinding/choking them to death.

They are inherently more vulnerable to auto-immolation and not just because of chemistry but because they are literally more vulnerable.

Physically vulnerable.

The EV’s battery pack is very big – and very heavy – and for that reason, is spread out over the length of the EV’s floorpan. Otherwise, the EV would have a very small trunk – or a very cramped passenger compartment – and also be tipsy.

So the pack is laid flat and low – and comparatively thin (vs. a gas tank).

But now you’ve got a battery pack that’s susceptible to being damaged – and auto-immolating – from almost any impact, whether from the side or from behind or from crashing into something, as in the Florida incident.

Gas-powered cars are inherently less vulnerable to going up in smoke because the gas tank isn’t spread out all the length of the car’s floorpan. Even pile-driving into a tree – as the Florida Tesla driver apparently did – usually won’t damage the gas tank, because it’s located in the rear part of the car.

And even if the tank is damaged in a crash – and gas leaks – it won’t necessarily cause a fire. Because gasoline doesn’t spontaneously combust.

There’s also the happy fact that once a gas fire is put out, the danger is over.

There is also much less danger over time.

Because of wear and tear.

An old car’s gas tank may develop a leak; it isn’t necessarily dangerous. But an old EV’s aging battery pack could develop a crack – and that is very dangerous. Hit a bad pothole in your 12-year-old Tesla and… what’s that smell?

Better hope the doors unlock once the power shorts out.

How many will have to die before the government begins to show some . . . concern?

Right now, it is showing the same degree of concern about auto-immolating EVs as it has shown about known defective air bags – several hundred thousand of which remain in circulation because the government hasn’t issued a fatwa ordering them to be sidelined until they can be fixed.

Think about this.

All those pour souls who have to drive to work every day sitting inches away from a known defective air bag that could kill them aren’t even allowed to have the known defective bags temporarily turned off until they can be fixed.

And government goons will Taser you if you refuse to “buckle up” or wear a helmet on your motorcycle.

That’s how much the government cares about our saaaaaaafety.

The truth is that our saaaaaaaaaaaaafety is of much less concern to the government than getting us to accept EVs. Or rather, tricking us into accepting them.

It is analogous to a pet owner hiding an unpleasant-tasting pill in a meatball, to get the animal to eat it. With the difference being that the pet owner actually does have the best interests of Fido at heart.

The government’s true interests are murkier.

Clearly, saaaaaaaaaaafety is just a cover for whatever else it has in mind; whatever serves its interests.

One of those interests may be the fact that EVs will limit our mobility. They can’t go as far – and they take far longer to get going again. They are severely gimped by extreme cold – and high heat.

And they are very expensive – which serves the interests of the banking cartel, which wants us all in perpetual debt as much as the government wants us under control – both amounting to the same things, really.

Neither of them having anything to do with our saaaaaaaaafety.

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20 Comments
MrLiberty
MrLiberty
February 27, 2019 5:40 pm

Well, they stopped putting cigarette lighters in cars anymore, so this is just Musk’s new alternative.

TampaRed
TampaRed
February 27, 2019 6:19 pm

i wonder if it is possible to determine the ratio between the # of teslas on the road vs the # of owners who have been injured or killed,versus other brands of autos–
rins killed it,
tesla,unsafe at any voltage–

Stucky
Stucky
  TampaRed
February 27, 2019 7:24 pm

“tesla,unsafe at any voltage–”

Great line! You just gave Ralph Nader a boner.

Enjoyed that article … learned things I did not know regarding Tesla saaaaaaftey. Holy Fuck, man, I wouldn’t own that car if you GAVE it to me free. Really.

That being said, I do believe it would be a wise investment if we outfitted all of Congress with this vehicle. And we should give AOC and ilk 5 cars each.

RiNS
RiNS
  Stucky
February 27, 2019 9:47 pm

I should get to work and write an article. Dedicated to my good buddy Star…

starfcker
starfcker
  RiNS
February 27, 2019 10:18 pm

Your kindness puts a tear in my eye

TampaRed
TampaRed
  starfcker
February 28, 2019 4:38 pm

star,
i’m glad you posted here,i hadn’t seen you post 4 a couple of days & wondered if it might have been you driving that tesla–

RiNS
RiNS
  TampaRed
February 28, 2019 6:21 pm

Now that’s funny..

TampaRed
TampaRed
  RiNS
February 28, 2019 9:34 pm

i was serious,if he died,wouldn ‘t we feel bad about all the x we ragged on him?

We are screwed
We are screwed
  Stucky
February 28, 2019 6:15 am

April 20th is national Buy your CONgressman a Tesla day!

Bean Farts
Bean Farts
February 27, 2019 6:56 pm

The primary reason that Tesla batteries are made in a state-of-the-art (and very expensive) factory, bankrolled by Matsushita/Panasonic, is they need to be manufactured in a clean room type of environment, just like is found in a $2B wafer fab. Matsushita has the know how, funds, and desire to grow their battery business. Call Elon what you want, but he was very lucky to get in bed with those guys from Japan.

Cleaner environment helps reduce the tendency for dendritic growth inside the battery cell; when dendrites form and puncture the cell’s insulator there is a short circuit of a high energy source. Anyone remember phones and notebooks going up in flames? Cheap, dirty batteries. Dendrites shipped from dirty battery factories.

As noted, auto crashes with huge batteries on board can result in massive energy release.

Fun fact: the HF acid mentioned is often used as a glass etchant, therefore it cannot be shipped or stored in glass bottles. Need a heavy duty plastic jug? Get an old HF bottle; lots better than a flimsy milk jug. Perfect for a cache of gasoline or other liquids in the back country.

Llpoh
Llpoh
February 27, 2019 7:02 pm

So, Tesla the company, and individual Tesla drivers, are Toast!

Who could possibly have predicted this!

Ginger
Ginger
February 27, 2019 8:23 pm

What was the carbon footprint on this whole thing?
A tree died here.
Then there was fire involving burning tires and other plastics.
But then the human died so we got that going for us.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
February 27, 2019 9:08 pm

New Tesla camper:
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new toy Tesla car for kids:
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new Tesla affordable housing options:
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And Tesla’s new underground tunnel project for LA:
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And some early footage of a young Elon Musk playing with his first toy car:
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gatsby1219
gatsby1219
February 27, 2019 9:53 pm

“The owner of another Tesla has died – horribly – in Davie, Florida after his car struck a tree and burst into flames.”

I noticed you didn’t mention the drivers name ?

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
February 27, 2019 9:55 pm

Another man, Omar Awan, is a senior IT specialist for the House’s Chief Administrative Officer. An email to his House address did not bounce back Friday, but did not receive a response.

Abid, Imran and Jamal have all shared a house in Lorton, Virginia, that is owned by Hina R. Alvi. Alvi is a female House IT employee who works for many of the same members as the three brothers, as well as the House Democratic Caucus.
https://truthfeed.com/breaking-democrat-awan-brothers-not-russians-allegedly-hacked-congress/50442/

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
February 27, 2019 11:08 pm

Our government doesn’t give a flying fuck on whether or not electric cars are safe. That is not the narrative. They know that if they force this onto the public that no one will be able to afford a car. It’s too bad that way back in 1965 they decided that they wanted to prevent the public from buying cars and it would take 60 years to accomplish that. How many people know that?

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
February 28, 2019 3:13 am

Excellent article on the madness of CVs, many thanks Eric – all very sound advice. My belief is that governments around the world have subsidised EV as opposed to the more effective hydrogen cell cars because they need battery technology to be developed quickly to the point where it can be used in the grid using ecofriendly, sustainable electricity generation like wind and solar.

Only the rich will be able to afford EV personalised transport after the coming crisis but the rest of the 95% will have to use Uber. We are going to see some significant changes in the way we live in the near future. Are you prepared with the knowledge to prosper under the new emergent economy following the coming crash? My book is being serialised here weekly (up to 41st issue) but you may want the complete pdf on request to [email protected].

We are screwed
We are screwed
February 28, 2019 6:12 am

Nobody is remembering obama had much to do about Teslas, popularity, survivability, and makreting. Not to mention he personally made millions after he enacted “green” laws by forcing impossible draconian measure on the real car makers (gas engine ones). He personally gor rid of the Ford Excursion as it would not meet his stringent guidelines. Nobody seems to remember Obamas laws were fought bybthe auto manufacturers in telling us we would all be relegated to the max size of a prius for a family of 6 to go on vacation. Shipping your bags just to drive on vacation would become the norm. You would enjoy the cramped horrid airlines rather than be forced to drive your yugo, pinto, prius. And if you survived the crash with that squirrel you would consider yourself lucky. Teslas stock went up 400% because obama. A compmay that had never produced a car, had zero revenue or profit at the time. And obumass made millions. Auto manufacturers were paying him just for a seat at the table so he would listen and tesla was paying him to say thank you. Piece of shit. Any stupid ass owning a Tesla gets what they deserve. Fuck em. Damn sheep. Make a ton of money when tesla goes to $1 a share, buy a “put” today! See if ole Elon Musk wants to smoke some more dope on television then….any shareholder that did not jump ship after that also heavily deserves what they also get. Fools and their money always part.

James
James
February 28, 2019 9:02 am

Tis sad the damage being done to a great mans name with this car(?).

Thankfully,the band who took Tesla’s name as it’s moniker is doing well and keeping his good name alive,gonna see em in April!

gilberts
gilberts
February 28, 2019 11:55 pm

A while back, I was watching an episode of Top Gear, or whatever they changed the name to, on Amazon Prime and they wrecked a Yugoslavian electric sportscar, dubbed, “The Ladyrazor.” They mentioned the wreck continued to catch fire throughout the week after the event, requiring constant attention, but they didn’t dwell on this issue. It was just a factual comment, but I wish they had elaborated more about that point. Then, it was the first time I had heard of the electric vehicle batteries going China Syndrome on us.