Will Artificial Intelligence be Used for Total Economic Control?

From Brandon Smith

artificial intelligence

I have recently been exploring the deeper issues surrounding Artificial Intelligence and the implications of its use by the establishment, and what I have found is an ever increasing propaganda drive to acclimate the masses to the notion that AI influence in every aspect of our lives is “inevitable”. That is to say, whether it is good or bad, whether we like it or not, it’s going to happen. The tech-headed swooning over AI is embarrassing and often naive. In their minds, AI can and should do everything, and will supposedly do it better than human beings ever could.

A minority of these people do acknowledge the potential dangers of letting computers run our society. However, the prevailing notion is that AI will be an improvement not only because it can make decisions faster, but because it can make decisions “without emotion”.

This ideal is rather malicious when we consider the effects it could have on the economy. True economics always has been and always will be part mathematics and part human psychology. Economics is about human survival, which makes it an emotional matter at its core. The concept of free markets relies on at least partial emotional investment in decision making; without the desire (or option) to improve and succeed, free markets wither and die.

But perhaps this is the goal of injecting AI into economics?

A common misconception about AI is that it is simply automation; this is not exactly true. Basic automation is considered “assisted intelligence” or “augmented intelligence”, which has existed for many years. True AI is built upon the foundation of “deep learning” and the ability to adapt to experience. That is to say, AI is not just automated, it is theoretically designed to learn and make decisions without further outside input from human beings.

Of course, HOW an AI system learns is in fact programmed and indelibly dictates its limitations. Whoever programs the AI determines the scope of what the AI can accomplish and the decisions the AI makes. And who is to stop the programmers from adding a little of their own input here and there for good measure? When AI cheerleaders claim that the system is better because it can make decisions without emotion, this is fundamentally incorrect. The programmers of the AI have emotions and biases and sometimes ill intent. The fallacy that AI is a source of pure objectivity is possibly the biggest lie of the century, and the average person will have no idea why until it is too late.

Currently, we can see examples of AI influence in the economy through algorithmic trading in stock markets as well as forex markets. Some of this is simple automation, but trading computers have recently evolved to include true “deep learning”.

The results have been strange if not ominous. This trading is primarily reactionary, as algo-computers scan thousands of headlines daily, along with social media opinions and public sentiment. In most cases AI is “bullish” in its sentiment, likely by design. The mainstream media as well as economic gatekeepers, Federal Reserve officials and even Donald Trump understand that by doing nothing more than mentioning certain key phrases in news feeds they can trigger a swift buying trend in markets.

To be clear, it is not algo-computers driving markets (yet), but gatekeepers influencing algo-computers to drive markets. AI trading is not in itself to blame for market manipulation, it is just a tool to allow the establishment to manipulate markets more easily.

I would note that the bounce in stocks after the plunge in December has been almost entirely driven by headline manipulation and algo-trading, along with a large injection of stimulus by the Chinese central bank. We have heard for the past two months that the Fed is about to “reverse course” on balance sheet tightening and interest rates, and yet this has not happened. In fact, as I predicted at the beginning of this year, the Fed expanded its asset cuts in February instead of capitulating.

However, I don’t think that many economic analysts grasp the meaning of this dynamic yet. Consider this: The Fed continues to cut its balance sheet, the same balance sheet that stock markets have been coupled to for the past several years, yet they have been able to conjure a stock bounce for the past two months anyway? How? Through words. Just words. The right words implied at the right time in news feeds that the algos monitor.

This is not to say that the fundamentals have gone completely out the window. Stocks are essentially the only sector of the economy still clinging to life. Every other sector is suffering steep declines. The latest bear market bounce does not have much longer to live and by the end of March I believe we will see a return to the same volatility we witnessed in December. What it represents for the future, though, is disturbing.

Just as AI-dominated markets can drive prices up artificially without regard for the real economy, so too can AI be used to drive prices down with an engineered crash. Central bankers and their globalist counterparts can now trigger instability through key phrases in the media on top of their ability to inflate and deflate financial bubbles using QE and QT. The agenda behind AI management of the economy does not stop with market manipulation, however.

If the crash that is happening now plays out to its logical conclusion, then the end game would be stagflationary crisis and a reduction of living standards to third world conditions. I think it is obvious that the ongoing pro-AI propaganda is meant to condition the public to accept the eventual “solution” of AI economic management in the wake of this disaster. The solution would include full AI control of not only stocks and forex markets, but also automated control of credit markets, interest rates, stimulus measures, etc. And, whoever programs the AI gains centralized powers over all of these systems.

This will ultimately extend to currency. The argument will be that AI would not be able to manage an economy effectively unless all money was digital and a cashless society is introduced. I’ve made my utter distrust of the cryptocurrency agenda well known, and this is yet another reason why I continue to be suspicious. Cryptocurrency and blockchain technology is already built to harmonize with AI. Proponents of this outcome are now discussing the use of AI to manage transaction execution among other facets of crypto trading.

The illusion being generated is that AI, along with crypto, will erase corruption in trade and politics through “greater transparency”. When crypto cultists talk about the marriage of AI and the blockchain, they usually do so with Utopian stars in their eyes. But transparency in all areas of trade is not necessarily a good thing.

As I have long reminded readers, there is no such thing as an anonymous cryptocurrency that is based on blockchain tech. While this was an original selling point of crypto, in recent years many proponents have been forced to admit that anonymity should not be expected. Now, the lack of anonymity is being held up as a selling point instead.

With full transparency, we can watch everything the establishment does, right? I find though that history does not support this outcome. In most cases when the establishment seeks “transparency”, what they mean is surveillance on the common citizen while the elites slither under the radar.

In a world where every transaction is tracked, where every purchase is cataloged, where every personal interest is logged and profiled and where every place you visit is mapped by AI, there can be no privacy. Without privacy, there can be no rebellion against the prevailing system.

Beyond this, implementation of AI to manage the economy immediately calls for further centralization by default. The dream that is projected is that the speed and sheer mass data analysis of AI will create an economy in which there are no surprises; all parts of the machine would be forced to work in unison and nothing would ever be allowed to break. But in order for this to happen, the human element would have to be removed or discounted or controlled as well. The human element would have to be regulated and subjugated so that it can be made more predictable.

There are far too many negatives that can come from this. Too many to count.

Human ingenuity and the desire for success would have to be oppressed or discouraged because this is considered a “selfish” pursuit in a centralized economic machine. Private trade would have to be eliminated entirely because it is an unknown factor that AI cannot track and collate. Even human population growth would have to be stemmed because it might add new unknowns that might cause a “drain” on the perfect economy. The advantage of AI is that it supposedly operates “without emotion”, so moral implications are certainly never going to be considered in its decisions.

Globalist institutions from the UN to the IMF have been avidly involved in the marketing of artificial intelligence as a panacea for all the problems of civilization, as long as it is overseen by the globalists, of course. It is also not a coincidence that an economic world run by AI provides the excuses needed to fulfill the ideology based on globalism. AI makes total centralization a necessity instead of a lustful ambition.

While there may be some fantastic and advantageous uses for AI, the idea that it must envelop everything with or without our consent is despicable. The promise of AI is snake oil.

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Old Shoe
Old Shoe
March 6, 2019 6:34 pm

Not total economic control; total control period.

Done in Dallas
Done in Dallas
  Old Shoe
March 7, 2019 11:11 am

Yep, they are already trying it with killing Paypal accounts of people they don’t like.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 6, 2019 6:51 pm

AI will do the work of the Deep State and other nefarious entities long before it finds a cure for Cancer.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
March 6, 2019 6:59 pm

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-05/smart-phones-smart-appliances-smart-people-brain-chip-will-create-super-intelligent

“Scientists are currently developing smart chips for the human brain.
In an interview with CBS Chicago, Northwestern University neuroscientist and business professor Dr. Moran Cerf said he is working on a smart chip for the brain.

“In as little as five years, super smart people could be walking down the street; men and women who’ve paid to increase their intelligence,” the report states.”

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Platoplubius
March 7, 2019 12:17 pm

AI goal is Singularity…….H+ or H2.0=Transhumanism

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-the same god that guides this, is directing both the above, and running this nation !!

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
March 6, 2019 9:46 pm

The Federal Reserve has ALREADY given them total economic control. 1/2 of EVERY financial transaction in “dollars” is controlled by the Fed.

mark
mark
March 6, 2019 9:53 pm

“We are at war! It is a savage campaign being waged against the hearts, minds, and souls of mankind, as laid out from Genesis to Revelation, and it is rapidly approaching its prophesied convergent zenith. Standing on the front lines amid the fray of battle are the Redeemed sons and daughters in Jesus Christ. As such, our True and Better Commander in Chief, the Lord Almighty, has sounded the battle cry that a WARRIOR CLASS OF CHRISTIANS arise. They are among those who intimately know the Captain of their Salvation and who advance His Kingdom in valorous Omega Dynamics: the powerful and effectual actions of the Redeemed of the Lord victoriously going forth in the End of the Age.”

WHAT IS A GOD FEARING WARRIOR CLASS OF CHRISTIAN TO DO AGAINST THESE THREATS?

1. Artificial Intelligence

2. Transhumanism

3. Hybridization

4. Bio-Tech Interface

5. Biohacking

6. Neural Lacing Transcendence

7. Singularity

8. IOT (Internet of Things) 5G

9. Sentient World Simulation

10. Augmented & Virtual Reality

11. Blockchain Tech

12. CRISPR Gene Editing Tech

13. Genetically Enhanced Inheritable Modifications

14. Black Physics

15. Particle Physics

16. Particle Physics

17. Quantum Computing

18. CERN

19. Trans-Dimensional Physics and Tech

20. ELF/EMF Energy Manipulations

21. HAARP/GWEN Tech

22. Geoengineering
23. Terraforming

24. Volcanism and Geophysics

25. Astrocatastrophism

26. Climatological Chaos

27. Genetic Modification of all Organisms

28. Rise of Occultism-MYSTERY Religions – and Dark Arts

29. Rise of the Days of Noah

30. Cultural Cannibalism

31. Return of the “Golden Age of the gods”

32. Abounding Lawlessness

33. Peace being taken from the earth

34. The Great Apostasia

35. Ecumenism

36. The Way of Truth Coming into Disrepute

37. The Intolerance of Sound Doctrine

38. Strong Delusions

39. The Wearing Out of the Saints

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  mark
March 6, 2019 11:40 pm

“WHAT IS A GOD FEARING WARRIOR CLASS OF CHRISTIAN TO DO AGAINST THESE THREATS?”

Above all brother Mark, we are to stand for Truth.

Ephesians 6:11-13 KJB… “Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Together if possible. Alone if necessary.

mark
mark
  grace country pastor
March 6, 2019 11:47 pm

GCP,

This is an amazing powerful book. I think you would like it…I can’t put it down. I thought the list of threats was appropiate for this thread.

Here is his close on page 338:

Therefore as the Warrior Saints of the Most High:

“Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.”

1 Corinthians 16:13

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  mark
March 7, 2019 7:05 am

Mark and GCP,

That was a truly inspiring back and forth you 2 just had.

Onward Christian Soldiers!!!

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Donkey Balls
March 7, 2019 8:53 am

Sharpen that sword and join the battle DB… ?

1 Corinthians 1:26-27 KJB… “For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;”

I doesn’t take a rocket surgeon! Just a fool with a book.

mark
mark
  Donkey Balls
March 7, 2019 12:07 pm

Thanks Donkey,

Here is why this book, in light of the threats I listed above (and the Greg Hunter interview I posted on Conspiracy Theories: Among the Illuminati) delights me. It is page after page of writing like this.

“The Good News is that whoever is in Christ Jesus overcomes the world! The Good News is that the Lord always maintains a Remnant, a Warrior Class, whose hearts are steadfast and who have resolved to Fear the Lord (Jere 5:21-25). The Good News is that those who know their God will be imbued with power from on High to go forth and do exploits! The Good News is that:

Isaiah 28:5-6: In that day the Lord of Hosts will be a crown of glory, and a diadem of beauty, to the remnant of His people, and a spirit of justice to Him who sits in judgement, and strength to those who turn back the battle at the gate.

Therefore, those with “ears to hear” fear the Lord for those who fear the Lord lack no good thing. (Psalm 34) Fear the Lord, having your love of knowledge and depth of insight abounding so as to become discerning spiritually-minded, and wise in this generation knowing that:

Proverb 21:22 NIV: One who is wise can go up against the city of the mighty pull down the stronghold in which they trust.”

I whole heartily identify being part of the Remnant and the Remnant being a ‘Warrior Class’ and the city being DC! I’am getting ready for a time such as this.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  mark
March 7, 2019 8:35 am

I’ll get myself a copy ASAP. Thanks for the recommendation!

2 Timothy 2:4 KJB… “No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.”

Bigger fish to fry, no? I feel satan cringe every time the truth is proclaimed.

Colossians 2:13-15 KJB… “And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.”

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  grace country pastor
March 7, 2019 12:25 pm

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah………

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- wonder where those downvotes are coming from….

“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools” Rom 1:22

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  ordo ab chao
March 8, 2019 8:10 am

Sir ordo, drop me a line at Grace Country Bible Church at yahoo dot com if you would.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  grace country pastor
March 7, 2019 9:04 pm

GCP, Ordo, Mark, M.C., et al

The Face Like the Sun YouTube channel has finally released Age of Deceit 3: Remnants in the Cyber_Hive Earth…

I’m halfway through it and am blown away already!

https://youtu.be/Wj_uGWhKFOc

Gorilla
Gorilla
  mark
March 7, 2019 8:52 pm

Why isn’t Singularity #1?

England is screwed by corrupt politicians
England is screwed by corrupt politicians
March 6, 2019 10:03 pm

I took my ipad into a lesser known new mexican reataurant to eat lunch last saturday and when i returned home and finsihed watching a youtube video the next swipe down to refresh new content showed an ad by that exact restaurant. The phone and chips in your credit card are already linked. This is why you must show id when buying and activating a phone with the big carriers. The burner phones today are the same. They will track you until they find who you are. I bought several burner phones a decade ago and still in the box. Surely will need to get a new battery but at least the old chips may be outdated and not snoop on me when needed. Inalso have a dozen blackerrys but no service is available because the unbeatable encryption is why the govt put them out of business. They could not track you and snoop and listen and turn the camera on as the blackberry was too encrypted. Thats why i bought so many. Now if jammers were t illegal i would put one in the middle of my property. Managing the wifi with auto on/off timers has helpedand turning off phones and placing into small lead containers also. We sleep much better.

TampaRed
TampaRed

england,
my phone went bad recently –i just talk /text most of the time & the wife likes all the newest features,so whenever it’s time for a new phone i take hers & she gets a new one–
i did not have internet or email on my old phone so when i started using my wife’s phone i was getting prompted to review your recent trip to … or review your meal at ….–
i was irritated at being tracked & wanted to give a “glowing”review but i had never done so because it puts the review out into the public sphere & my wife’s name was the name on the phone–
however,i finally had enough–i got home the other night & had another prompt–
i have a private shell road that is several hundred yards to the back of my property–most detail maps of this area show it as just a tiny line–google was prompting me to name the road so i did,now let’s see if pussywallow road makes it onto their next map update–

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TampaRed
March 8, 2019 12:49 am

Throw the fucker away and get a tracfone; I pay $6.67/mo. for enough minutes to meet my needs (emergency primarily) and never answer the damn thing when it rings.

Mszyslak
Mszyslak
  Anonymous
March 11, 2019 6:00 pm

Re-read what England wrote. Tracfone is now no better than iphone or android. This is new, I think, within the last year or two. Keep that old Tracfone, cuz a new one will do you no good.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
March 6, 2019 10:25 pm

All intelligence is pattern recognition.

The greatest impediment to pattern recognition, emotions, are impossible to “regulate” in any way.

AI isn’t hampered by emotion, so it will inevitably “outthink” humans, and our fear is that AI will control humans and make it impossible for humans to regain control over AI.

So what?

I’ve never known anyone (that I would like to know) capable of controlling all their emotions all the time… like AI can. I see no threat.

The brightest Economic minds ever assembled (multiple Nobel Laureates) along with MIT algorithm wizards (Long Term Capital Management) nearly blew up the financial world in 1998, and had to be bailed out by the U.S. Gubbamint’s strong-arming other Wall Street firms into a rescue. Those who refused were gobbled up in the 2008 meltdown. where taxpayers rescued the banks from their brilliance.

If AI is employed to control the economy, the outcome be very different. We’ll all enjoy getting to know each other better through barter.

Things will get slowly better after there are no more banks, and no moneychangers left in the temple to whip.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Diogenes’ Dung
March 6, 2019 11:20 pm

Trump’s Most Endearing Moment

I hate bankers because all wars are banker wars.

Andrew Jackson, a personal HERO, did too. He started the “Banker Wars” shortly after his election in 1829. His political opponents created a depression to thwart him. Still, his policy (and money) maneuvers saved the treasury from swindling politicians (redundant term) and he was reelected.

For me, Trump’s image is “Carnival Barker/Buffoon” – and I’ve been both. He’s clearly a genius at feeling/reading/responding to the public pulse, but it’s difficult for me to imagine anyone who constantly waves a lightning rod being successful at changing things. At least not without looking like Wile E. Coyote three puffs into a cigar lit by the Roadrunner.

Still, I developed an instant “soft spot” for Trump when I saw he had Andrew Jackson’s portrait in the Oval Office. I thought that every ass in the Goldman Sach’s boardroom must have been sucking its seat.

I appreciated his choice so much because I nearly got a hatred hernia when I learned O’bunga wanted to replace Jackson with Rosa Parks on the $20 bill.

Not that her courage and the changes it precipitated weren’t or aren’t praiseworthy, but racism is and always will be a problem among the differing human tribes until we are one. Loooooong time away.

Predatory (centralized) banking always leads to war. For all tribes, it is an existential threat.

Andrew knew.

Pequiste
Pequiste
March 6, 2019 11:00 pm

Shucks. Artificial Intelligence is certainly the Government’s ultimate tool for economic ( Human) control; but as many here at TBP know – with the implementation of Artificial General Intelligence, the Evil Fuckers (TM) complete Anti-Christ package.

I for one shall like to join other admirers of Ned Ludd, as the only response will be direct resistance against, what Elon “And I ought to know” Musk said about the technology that we are summoning; The Devil.

Mszyslak
Mszyslak
  Pequiste
March 11, 2019 6:03 pm

Butlerian Jihad

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
March 6, 2019 11:25 pm

I doubt AI will be a great benefit to humankind. Isn’t an example of AI the stinking “auto-correct” that attempts to rewrite what we type?

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
March 7, 2019 12:45 am

When sociopaths think artificial intelligence with no conscience is “beneficial” then normal people SHOULD be wary.
So what would a good Christian do?
Simple.
If remedial efforts fail, reserve the obligation to pull the power plug, just like we do with the organic life forms who have no conscience or practical social value.

RiNS
RiNS
March 7, 2019 10:09 am

Just posting here for my Buddy Stuck..

There is now a word for loving yerself….

Stucky
Stucky
  RiNS
March 7, 2019 11:32 am

That’s funny. I think.

There was a reader submitted editorial in the NY Post about a week ago. It was in response to that billionaire Kraft getting serviced at a cheap massage parlor. The guy described himself as a millionaire millennial and that he was addicted to …. wait for it ….. masturbation, and that it’s not that big a deal. In the NY Post!!!

I was gonna submit it. But, then I decided not to as the number of readers here fascinated with choking the chicken apparently is limited to just you and me ……….. even though we ALL do it. Especially those people with just initials; bb and DD.

We Wuz Vikangs and Sheit
We Wuz Vikangs and Sheit
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 11:56 am

Yeah

From one Autosexual to another I thought it was funny.
Good news for me is that seeing as I live in Canuckistan I can now claim it on my gobbermint forms.

I’m filling out my taxes this weekend. I might tick that box on form.
I mean I have too!
There are laws that force the to tell the truth.

Admitting is the first
Besides Odin understands.
This place is boring
as all get out.
Valhalla will be better.
There the beer is free
and the whores
well
they will have it in hand

DD
DD
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 7:50 pm

I hope Stucky reads this first thing into the library in the morning…

Only if you-know-who (insert your REAL name here) asks me to choke the chicken. A lot of times I just stroke until hypnotized. After that, we all know what happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

That’s kind of how Nick looks after it’s all over. But happy.

Done in Dallas
Done in Dallas
  RiNS
March 7, 2019 12:10 pm

Rosy palm disease.

We Wuz Vikangs and Sheit
We Wuz Vikangs and Sheit
  Done in Dallas
March 7, 2019 1:02 pm

Don’t worry Dallas

It rubs off too!

TampaRed
TampaRed
  We Wuz Vikangs and Sheit
March 7, 2019 11:39 pm

the belgian billionaire who died yesterday wished he had had sense enough to just be satisfied using his hands–
yesterday in france he died on the operating table while having male enhancement surgery–

John
John
March 7, 2019 10:37 am

AI works based on the algo that’s programed into it. The challenge will be who is in charge of the programing.

Stucky
Stucky
March 7, 2019 11:05 am

“In their minds, AI can and should do everything, and will supposedly do it better than human beings ever could.”

Riiiiight!

All that super duper expi ali docious INTELLIGENCE …… and not one line of code dedicated to morality.

Intelligence devoid of the ability to make right moral choices should scare the HELL out of every thinking person.

What would such a creature look like? The science fiction world gives us glimpses;

—- 1) The Borg. You WILL be assimilated!

—-2) And this awesome line from the Terminator; —> “In the 21st century, a weapon will be invented like no other. This weapon will be powerful, versatile and indestructible. It will feel no pain. No pity. No remorse. No fear. It will have only one purpose: to return to the present and prevent the future.”

BL
BL
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 11:24 am

Stucky- You aren’t still mad at me over the 9/11 thread yesterday, are you?? It was all in good fun and Ned was on a roll. Old pal, old buddy??

Stucky
Stucky
  BL
March 7, 2019 11:49 am

Mad? No.

Disappointed? Yes.

You said I write bullshit. Really?? This is what friends say to friends?

Ned says I lick government boots … and worse. It is a lie. You know it. But, did you correct that lie? No. You just laughed and agreed. As did many others.

Ordo then starts bringing in Ms Freud in a derogatory manner. This woman is the love of my life, and probably in early stages of Alzheimer’s. And people went giddy with up votes, maybe even you. What has happened to this place that personal attacks on beloved family members is tolerated, and even up-voted?? And no one who knows says a fucken word. This is fun, or funny??? Holy fucken shit man!

I’m still processing all that. I’m trying to decide whether or not I really ought to continue on here. I’m starting to believe that my usefulness here is long past its expiration date. I haven’t decided anything yet. I’m not going to make a decision based on heightened emotions. I’m going to wait two weeks. If I feel the same in two weeks as I do today then you’ll probably have to find another friend to tell them they write bullshit.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 12:20 pm

I hope the Mrs. is doing well stuck.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 12:36 pm

Where did I bring in the Mrs? I’ve got a sister in law in the latter stages of Alzheimers…….I repeatedly called you a bootlicker, and a know it all Shrink…….. a Schmuck !

If your Shrink, I think you suck !! I’ve buried two friends……and soon to be a little sister, who were doped up with your shrinkdope till they didn’t know what to do but die !! If the ‘Mrs.’ is a shrink……that would help explain your thought process !

The love of Jesus Christ, and His efficacious sacrifice once for all of us, which was displayed through my dad for the 45 short years I had with him, is the love of my life….so how’s it different when you besmirch Jesus…..if it turns out your Mrs. is the psychiatrist, and not you??

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- I’m no GCP, for sure ! I don’t care for your “I’m better than you” attitude.

DD
DD
  ordo ab chao
March 7, 2019 7:10 pm

Ordie… I’m really disappointed in you. Tsk. Tsk.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  DD
March 7, 2019 7:45 pm

Sorry, DD. I disappoint myself quite often. This whole thing is just a display that Stuckey’s feelings are of the most importance here. I’ve read where he has dished out PLENTY of insults, and has no never mind about anyone who doesn’t fit in his circle.

I am NOT disappointed in speaking the facts about what I stated above. My sister-in-law worked 42 yrs. in a jet engine maintenance plant, and during her last year, her mental decline became noticeable; off to the doctor and diagnosed with Alzhiemer’s, diabetes and breast cancer, resulting in a radical mastectomy. She took a medical disability, and 5 yrs later she doesn’t even know her name, or have a chance to enjoy any retirement with her 7 figure savings !!

The point about my two friends is from psychological medications (rich kids) that began in their teens ! My kid sister has gone to one or another for 30 YEARS, got divorced, diagnosed with PTSD from it and more new rounds of medications!!!! She has tried to kill herself TWICE in the ten years since the divorce.

There is much more detail involved in my “shit parade life”, but who around here really gives a crap???

I DO NOT LIKE THE PSYCHIATRIC INDUSTRY, STUCKEY DOESN’T LIKE ‘JESUS TALK’. He can make disparaging remarks based on his preferences, but I cannot?

If you, or anyone else is disappointed in me, I’m sorry !

If you, or anyone else thinks I would hold no empathy for Stuckey’s burden, then I am equally disappointed in you !

I felt it was about time somebody spoke up FOR JESUS!! There sure has been a lot of discussion about His Book !!

I don’t need this blog, and will make less appearances here. Stuckey doesn’t have to take his ball and go home, this is his little kingdom and it’s clear that I am just the stable boy that’s supposed to haul the shit out !

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-

My wife’s got an older brother, a retired marine, that has worked at Tinker for years. He still is, and they just transferred his wife, terminal and on life support, from the OKC (BCBS stopped paying) to a facility in Texas, so now he will have the financial burden out of pocket, and a three hour drive to see her

Everybody’s got their own sack of rocks to tote ! Vaya con Dios

RiNS
RiNS
  ordo ab chao
March 7, 2019 8:10 pm

You’ll be sadly missed Ordo

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  RiNS
March 7, 2019 9:09 pm

Ordo,

I second RINS comment above.

Just when I thought this site was getting some quality commentary. Don’t go.

BL
BL
  RiNS
March 7, 2019 9:12 pm

Ordo- I too will miss your posts and I hope you will stay.

Stucky
Stucky
  ordo ab chao
March 7, 2019 8:23 pm

I don’t know when things got really hot between us. But, it doesn’t matter. Let me be civil with you, and clear things up.

1. I do not view you as a stable boy. I’ve enjoyed and agreed with many of your posts.

2. In no way, shape, or form do I want you to leave this place. In the past 10 years there are maybe only 5 people who I definitely wanted gone (in fact, they no longer post here). You are not one of those 5 people, I assure you.

3. I also don’t like psychiatry. They are pretty much frauds and assholes.

4. I am not a psychiatrist. My beloved — she is referred to here as “Ms Freud” is also not a psychiatrist (drug pushers). She is a licensed psychologist (talk therapy). But, she no longer practices due to her condition.

5. I am so very sorry (truly) to read about your sister and sister-in-law. No one should have to endure such hardships.

6. You are incorrect that I don’t like Jesus Talk. I’ve written a number of original articles about Christianity/religion. I got a friend in Jesus …. What I hate is the CONSTANT Jesus talk, in articles where bringing in Jesus is hardly even warranted, and the in your face!!! method in which it is so often done.

7. If you want to cheer for Jesus … then cheer for Jesus!! There is no censorship on TBP. I’ll try to be more tolerant.

8. Lastly, why don’t you, GCP, and others become contributors?? As a contributor YOU can write ORIGINAL articles of your choosing. All you have to do is let Admin know, and you’ll be set up in no time. Then you guys can cheer for Jesus, write for Jesus, preach for Jesus, do jumping-jacks for Jesus …. whatever you want. Really. I’ll bet it’ll generate a lot of discussion — there are many here who love Jesus (and many who don’t), and that’s a perfect combination for lively conversation. Think about it.

DD
DD
  ordo ab chao
March 7, 2019 8:43 pm

Ordie, I’m not even reading dear buds RiNSe and repeat or Stuckenheimer below before telling you I agree completely and had hoped you’d be able to tough it out here. Sorry to see I was wrong. I’ve been wrong before.

We tell the fucking truth here at TBP. We don’t all like each other; in fact I loathe a couple of these assholes around here and they loathe me.

However. Those of us who hang here long-term know the score. Except for EC, who never really knew what he thought he knew.

Ordie, if you do change your mind and return, just add “redux” to your moniker.

We’ll get it.

Now that Stucky has “outed” me, I may be Not DD, then Redux for a while. Where IS that blue ox?

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  ordo ab chao
March 7, 2019 8:51 pm

Noone leaves TBP alive.

Stick around Ordo.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  ordo ab chao
March 8, 2019 9:42 am

WTF?

You have to have a much better reason for flouncing than this.

Must be Spring.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  ordo ab chao
March 7, 2019 7:47 pm

Fuck your religious bullshit, you fucking hypocrite.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Llpoh
March 7, 2019 8:08 pm

All ‘Christians’ are hypocrites; but not all hypocrites are ‘Christians’…….

See the exchange below between the only ‘real Christians’ here, DD/Stuckey, for a fine example of the pot calling the kettle black !

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- you use the same ‘cussin thesaurus’ ? It makes you sound so much more intelligent than most

RiNS
RiNS
  ordo ab chao
March 7, 2019 8:31 pm

that is just sad

Stucky
Stucky
  ordo ab chao
March 7, 2019 8:53 pm

Never said I was a Christian.

I WAS a Christian at one time. Hardcore, too. Some people say “once saved, always saved” — in that case, I guess I still am.

What I am is a Believer. I have my own belief system — Stuchenism. We don’t like the OT God (Jehobah). We pretty much love Jeebus. And the only rule is tithing to the founder (me).

You can join anytime.

BL
BL
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 1:05 pm

Stucky- It would be a sad day if you ever left, hope you never do. The time has come (seriously) for truthers to push back on the false narrative/official story with conviction. Twenty years is all it takes to erase the memory of a population.

Back in the day, Admin put the big dogs out to stop 9/11 truthers because he didn’t want TBP to become a tinfoil hat hangout. Even Admin has changed over the years, you have not, still rounding up the nutters.

Ordo thinks YOU are the Freud SHRINK, he is confused (read below). Everyone wants the best for your beloved, you know that.

Still pals??

Stucky
Stucky
  BL
March 7, 2019 1:12 pm

“Still pals??”

I said I was disappointed with you … not mad.

I know that I have disappointed my friends — here in virtual world and in real life — yet, they didn’t unfriend me. They forgave me.

I don’t discard my friends as if they were paper plates.

So, yeah, of course we’re still pals!

BL
BL
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 1:26 pm

OUTSTANDING!! Got anything on the lineup for articles? I know you are super tied up with Ms. Freud right now but we need a good Stucky (TM) article to get things rolling around here (no offense to Unc and Admin).

Stucky
Stucky
  BL
March 7, 2019 6:56 pm

I started an article today titled —-> “Trump’s Victories, Jesus’ Delays …. And How People React When Their Prophecies Go \\POOF!!??

Didn’t get very far as I spent too much time replying and commenting.

Then we had a routine check-up for Ms. Freud at her Cardiologist at 3:30PM. Not good news concerning her heart. That’s why I’m at the library this evening … to do research on that.

The shit parade known as My Life keeps on rolling on ….

BL
BL
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 7:02 pm

Stucky- Can you share with me what her problem is with her heart, don’t feel you have to divulge OK ?

Stucky
Stucky
  BL
March 7, 2019 7:33 pm

I wish I knew … that’s why I’m at the library. She has a shitfuk DOT HEAD doctor. No bedside manners whatsoever. Looked annoyed when I asked questions. It seemed to me like he couldn’t wait to get us the fuck out of his office.

I have had a lot of interactions with dot heads throughout my life. Far more than the average person. The vast majority of those interactions have been quite negative.

Give me a choice of having a decent black family live next to me and a dot head family …. and I would choose the black family each and every time, and without hesitation. Dot heads are deceptive, greedy, smelly, and assholes.

——————- –

I’d rather not say what it is at this time. I’m sure you understand. Perhaps when we get a better handle on it I can say more. The good news is that while it does involve heart disease, it is relatively recent (it wasn’t there a year ago) and early diagnosis is always a good thing …. and there IS a cure. Just to be clear, while serious, it is not yet life threatening. Thank God.

Thanks for asking.

BL
BL
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 9:15 pm

Totally understand Stucky, prayers for Ms. F.

DD
DD
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 7:15 pm
Llpoh
Llpoh
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 7:46 pm

Sorry I was not there to support you, Stuck. Missed that shit. You are the heart of this place, and I mean that.

One thing – that Ned character is a moron. Seriously. Please help me kick shit out of him. He lies continuously. The shit he posts to support his socialist narrative is unbelievable.

Stucky
Stucky
  Llpoh
March 7, 2019 8:06 pm

That’s OK. I knew you were offline. I also knew if you were online that you would have ripped him a new asshole. lol

Can you imagine that?? Little Neddie taking on two of the original Big Dogs?? hahahaha (insert picture of dead duck here).

Thing is … I’m not sure he’s worth it. I really meant what I said about not voting his stuff up or down. He doesn’t deserve the attention. And I think that’s all he wants … attention. His little yapping and faggoty insults are hardly even annoying. Yet. But, Big Dogs have their limits, don’t they?

RiNS
RiNS
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 8:14 pm

Yeah like Llpoh sorry as well that I haven’t been around. Taking time offline and winter is a drear. Still just say the word and its game on…..

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Stucky
March 8, 2019 9:38 am

Knock it off. This place is the Hotel California. You can never leave.

Your place here is important to a lot more people than just yourself.

Winner never quit and quitters never win. You’re a winner, thus quitting is not an option.

Pequiste
Pequiste
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 11:26 am

The Borg sez: “Resistance is futile”

The Evil Fuckers (TM) want you to believe just that.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 12:18 pm

Stucky,

After writing that, how is it you ha e such a hardon for GCP?

Stucky
Stucky
  Donkey Balls
March 7, 2019 12:45 pm

“After writing that, how is it you ha e such a hardon for GCP?”

He reminds me greatly of my ex-wife (not kidding) … whom I loathe.

She did not have an opinion without quoting a Bible verse. She had a Bible verse for EVERY occasion … even when we took the kids to Disney World. The Lord this, the Lord that, bible verse #1, bible verse #2, …. by the end of the day I might have heard a hundred Bible verses. That is only a slight exaggeration.

And isn’t that what GCP does …. bringing in Bible verses on virtually ANY topic discussed? Yes, he does. And almost always not in context of what is being discussed. Posting a Bible verse with maybe a one or two line commentary is one thing. But, he takes it to the next level typically turning it into a 100 word, 200 word or more post babbling on about what it REALLY means according to HIM.

Bottom line — GCP practices an IN YOUR FACE “Christianity”.

Seriously, you’re OK with what he does? You really like having religion thrown in your face all the time? You really think this is the right forum for that? Is this why you came to TBP and stayed here … to listen to GCP sermons????

DD
DD
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 7:26 pm

You gotta admit he’s been tenacious and continues to spout the biblicker shit like the best backwoods revivalist I ever saw around these here backwoods parts. If he hangs tough, he pretty much seems to qualify for TBP chaplain. Fuck, if that one asshole is campaigning for Smokey’s position as the biggest asschewer around these parts, then maybe we need to put someone in charge of the condition of our souls.

(My scars here came from Billy, whom I made the mistake of confusing with bb and now I’m not only a member of the flat-ass society, I’m president. Ouch. [So, you can see my current state of barely surviving a weight loss approaching a whole person can actually be tracked back to tbp, for which I will look into seeking reparations. I will not be holding my breath.]

So, between Platypus and GCP and BB… who tends to TBP’s spiritual needs? Hmmmm?

DD
DD
  DD
March 7, 2019 7:31 pm

Still. Nothing about goats, rabbits or anyone who got my stubborn flat ass to a hospital in the Nick of time again.

Am a lucky fucking woman, Stucky. So’s Mrs. Freud. I really DO pray for you. I just don’t fiddle around with rosary beads. I just boldly march up to that throne and say Lord, it’s me. My friend Stucky needs a favor. Would you have your people call his people?

Amen

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+4:16&version=AMPC

Stucky
Stucky
  DD
March 7, 2019 7:52 pm

“I really DO pray for you. I just don’t fiddle around with rosary beads. I just boldly march up to that throne and say Lord, …”
=======================================

You know what that is folks? This might embarrass DD, and she might even deny it. But what you see here is …. REAL CHRISTIANITY ON DISPLAY!!

We have a couple of rather VOCAL Christians here. Names not necessary, you know who they are. One of them recently said to me “I hate you also.” Another one calls me a fool, and Ms Freud also. I suppose hating and name calling is something Jesus would do?

Nope! They have a brand of Christianity that is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. In other words, all talk.

“But BE DOERS of the word, and NOT HEARERS ONLY, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.”

DD is a gem of a human being. A doer of the word. I’m blessed that she is in my life.

RiNS
RiNS
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 8:21 pm

You’re in my prayers too Stuck.
If we never meet in this life
We should plan for a beer or two in the next.
The Chief and DD as well.

Stucky
Stucky
  RiNS
March 7, 2019 8:34 pm

Beer and whores ….. man, I LOVE your religion!

I don’t recall your answer …. but, are you going to HF’s picnic? Cuz, if you are, I would do everything I can to make it also. I just can’t plan that far into the future cuz of mom and Ms Freud.

If not, oh well … a beer with you, DD, and The Injun in the next life ain’t such a bad idea!

Outta here. See ya’ll tomorrow.

We Wuz Vikangs and Sheit
We Wuz Vikangs and Sheit
  Stucky
March 8, 2019 9:02 am

Stucky..

Probably can’t make it this summer to farm as there are plans afoot to organize a Family reunion down home here for the folks out West..

Sooner or later though I do plan on a roadtrip to the Imperial Capitol. Inspired in part by Scrabbles recent trip.

So at some point, I will get to the 95.
Head south before this world turns to shit.

When that day comes..

If I’m near by
I will drop by
I promise

For now

You are in my thoughts and prayers.

DD
DD
  RiNS
March 7, 2019 8:46 pm

Have you tried that Horny Monk brew LGR can sneak in?

Lager
Lager
  DD
March 8, 2019 4:44 pm

I’m late to this thread.

Thx for the nod, DD.
Monks have traveled, to PA, FL, MO, NH…, but not to NS. Nor to NJ, or OZ. One other reg I enjoy is on the wagon, so…for that amigo, maybe some Sanders one day.
You’re in rare company to have experienced them outside of MI
Re this shitfest,
My 2 cents…personalities and opinions clash, but most around here have common ground we all tread.
When one is down, the support shown by many is the real deal.
Taking sides is division, and flares up occasionally.
Some of the smartest people still argue, battling wits & logic.
Personal shots should be off limits.
And seniority counts.
Even if the BDRs occasionally crack the whip. So, I choose neutrality, humor, and respect.
I learn more that way.
Parting shot: some frothy souls don’t fight well, so they’re loathe to engage. That’s not a weakness. Don’t view it as such, with disrespect.
Peace is good. Comraderie better.

DD
DD
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 8:24 pm

Look, you big lumberjacklooking hulk of a man whom I’m positive I met in a bar near that AFB in upstate New York long ago and far away when my best buddy jumped into your arms and said “Oh thank God! It’s Paul Bunyan and he’s brought Babe the Blue Ox!” (Yes, I know it’s Minnesota, but Stucky could be Paul’s brudder from another udder.)

This may indeed send me into the tbp witness protection program again but with pals like you around, I’ll live to irritate and annoy both the arrogant assholes and the pompous angels around here another day.

My friend from the beltway crowd? Really did a 54 day Novena Prayer for a family issue, closing herself off for 25 minutes every day to say the same prayer the same way every day for 54 days. I admire her for it. I truly do.

But, I literally BROKE my father-in-law’s rosary because I’m a klutz and I just told people I was letting the Lord down off that damned cross. LOL.

Some people don’t know how to take me, Stucky. Most people never will get the chance to find out.

Your spot by the pond will be reserved for TEOTWAWKI. Mrs. Freud can stay in the basement since my son is now a rich corporate type making more money than I would ever have thought possible. He only contacts me to gloat that he’s wearing sweatpants at work to let me know all that dry cleaning I sent with him was wasted.

Brat.

There. Now, if I tell you I put my bunnies into semi-retirement because I really got to the point I couldn’t kill them AND eat them (though I can do either, just not both) and that I really do love being here in the semi-wilderness with Nick and I think if you can find a way to get your beloved into a setting with large animals (I recommend horses. Seriously, they have horse tending therapy which helps so many people in so many ways… my friend takes her daughter (age 17; she is 58 like me) each week for stress, anxiety and tension. She says it is doing wonders for her high stress job. Costs a hundred bucks for two hours.

You can come here and pet my goats for five dollars a day. All day.

Stucky
Stucky
  DD
March 7, 2019 8:41 pm

The pond sounds wonderful.

But, do tell me; where you live isn’t winter colder than a witches’ tit? And don’t you have 250mph tornadoes in the spring? And don’t your summer mosquitoes have a three foot wingspan? Hmmm?

I know what you’re trying to do. Murder by nature!!

DD
DD
  Stucky
March 8, 2019 10:17 am

We are in a fairly temperate zone until early January, when yes, I believe Witches Tit fits, but that is what the lumberjacking is for, Sherlock. Firewood and fine lumber for homes and workshops.

However, right about now when the clouds begin to thin and the sun peeks out for a few hours a day, a tiny glimmer of hope emerges from the gloom and I can see out of every window of my log home and all I can see is a world full of NOPIS.

NO OTHER PEOPLE IN SIGHT. I have 16 armed adults and 4 armed children within a half mile, living in homes tucked into nooks and crannies around the quarter section. But all I can see is fields, barns, trees and a couple of enormous white dogs who would die to protect me.

The animals are hidden by the barn as good animals should be. Not seen, not heard and definitely not smelled or smelt.

It pretty much is Paradise.

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Oh, wait… that’s the PAINTING you wanted to purchase to gaze upon while you pursue your not so private hobby. It hangs on the wall down in the treehouse, which you might get elevated to if my Air Force friend in St. Louis kicks off first. She’s the one who I plan to pal with if Nick goes and Nick will hook up (sure, why not… why would I care?) with. Her biggest problem is which of us she hopes dies first. So, now? To inherit the treehouse and the painting for TEOTWAWKI, you gotta hope Shirley dies. What a tangled web we weave!

Anyway, that painting hangs in one of the tiny two bedrooms in the little 20 x 30 foot home on 10 foot barn posts (10 inch by 10 inch by 10 feet because it sits twenty feet from a creek which feeds a river a half mile away. A navigable river. Nice to know in the early spring.) We bought it because it was unfinished and sturdy. Nick and I put up the drywall and the ceilings throughout the place in a wild four-day weekend that involved overnighters of a totally different kind than we’d experienced twenty years ago when dreaming of this. As you can see in the image? I was the mudding and taping queen. That is the best we could offer a family of Mennonites who agreed to live in that tiny little birdhouse and build my dream home. Omer Yoder was one of the most sought after builders on the Gastineau preferred list of builders. He was booked for years in advance. Which is why I drove from Oklahoma City into north central Missouri to meet him and visit him and his six sons building a huge log home on the Lake of the Ozarks.

I handed him my blueprints and a picture of the land into which I’d photoshopped a picture of the home I hoped to see here one day. He told me he would consider it and get in touch.

He did and it was a wonderful experience getting to work with the Yoders while both the barn and the house were built. Two different families all out of the Amish in Wisconsin.

You can tell Mrs. Freud she’s gonna love milking goats! Fondling nipples can be very rewarding from the other side too. I’m talking about milk. I do not have a thing for goats.

There, did I cover everything you were fucking complaining about me rambling on and on about?

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That’s my two guys heading uphill toward the barn. The rabbits are here, but on sabbatical until needed for service. We eat hooved beasties here now. With antlers and horns.

We Wuz Vikangs and Sheit
We Wuz Vikangs and Sheit
  DD
March 8, 2019 10:36 am

Sweet Heavenly Odin…
Not that picture again.

DD
DD
  We Wuz Vikangs and Sheit
March 8, 2019 11:42 am

Think about it… one day it could very well be yours!

nkit
nkit
  DD
March 7, 2019 8:59 pm

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grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Stucky
March 8, 2019 9:05 am

Way to quote Jewish James, Stucky! Continue down in that chapter to the last verse…

James 1:27 KJB… “Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.”

Have you kept yourself unspotted? Nope. Neither has anyone here. Know why? We’re not empowered to do so as the remnant of Israel was (and will someday be again). Nope. We today are saved by grace through faith according to that gospel Jesus revealed to Paul. You know, the Apostle which Christ sent specifically to us, the one you claim to hate in favor of the religious Hebrew Apostles.

James 1:1 KJB… “James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.”

Which tribe are you a member?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 7:49 pm

I agree with your GCP sentiments. Talk about beating a dead horse.

DD
DD
  Llpoh
March 7, 2019 8:27 pm

Someone has to make the fucking glue and turn the bone into dust.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Llpoh
March 7, 2019 11:34 pm

gcp means well,he just quotes too much scripture,which makes him seem holier than thou,which i truly don’t think he means to be–only post the verses if vitally important or someone asks for them,otherwise make your point w/o scripture–

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  TampaRed
March 8, 2019 2:18 pm

Tampa…

“make your point w/o scripture”

I have no other point to make. Scripture is the key to understanding… everything.

“which makes him seem holier than thou”

Absolutely not my intent. Apologies sincerely if that’s the way I come across. I tend toward the blunt; subtlety is not my strong suit.

RiNS
RiNS
  grace country pastor
March 8, 2019 2:45 pm

@CPG

It is your intent
That is why its called preaching.
And droning as you
doesn’t make you blunt.
It makes you dull.

Hey Red

Thanks for posting this fellows video on another thread.

I have been listening this all afternoon.

Great music!

Cheers

RiNS

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Llpoh
March 8, 2019 2:27 pm

He’s not dead. He’s alive forevermore and offers the same to anyone and everyone. I’ll beat that “horse” till I’m dead.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 7:50 pm

Stuck,

I am only trying to be open to others. I think it’s great to have a pastor on TBP. Lord knows we need one. You never know who will be touched or when or by whom.

God is watching all of us all the time. I cringe at that thought.

I am also very sorry to hear about your wife of ___ years. Sharing: a cousin of mine shot and killed himself with a shotgun just this past weekend. While I did not know him very well, it is the closest I have come to this kind d of tragedy. Life, huh?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Donkey Balls
March 8, 2019 2:36 pm

Intentional or accidental?

That’s a horrible thing to leave for someone else to find.

DD
DD
  hardscrabble farmer
March 8, 2019 3:58 pm

Life altering.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Stucky
March 8, 2019 8:53 am

“And almost always not in context of what is being discussed.”

You don’t read well into things. The well is deep. The Bible is far deeper.

Context is everything. What are my thoughts compared to our Creators?

“You really like having religion thrown in your face all the time?”

I hate religion. Perhaps you should actually read what I write. And you suggest I become a contributor?

“about what it REALLY means according to HIM.”

Not at all. I quote verses to demonstrate what the BOOK says, NOT what I THINK IT MEANS. My thoughts are meaningless compared with it. It says what it says and means what it says.

You have a great deal to learn. Sorry your X messed you up. That’s an easy fix if you want it. If not… continue pissing into the wind.

I wish your wife the very best. These bodies all fade. Saved people have new ones ready and waiting!

1 Corinthians 15:42-44 KJB… “So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.”

Keep reading… here is HOPE!

Mszyslak
Mszyslak
  Stucky
March 11, 2019 6:14 pm

“bringing in Bible verses on virtually ANY topic discussed? Yes, he does. And almost always not in context of what is being discussed. ”

Is this about the JOOS?

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Stucky
March 7, 2019 9:11 pm

From your comments above I recommend checking out this recently released video when you have some free time…

https://youtu.be/Wj_uGWhKFOc

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
March 8, 2019 9:30 am

“In a world where every transaction is tracked, where every purchase is cataloged, where every personal interest is logged and profiled and where every place you visit is mapped by AI, there can be no privacy. ”

This is bad blotter acid level of bullshit. That statement doesn’t come within an Earth’s Orbit of the truth.

Like the Wizard of Oz, 90% of everything these people get away with is based on fantasy and falsehood. It depends upon people believing these shameless lies and acting as if they were true when almost nothing can be further from it.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  hardscrabble farmer
March 8, 2019 10:48 am

HSF ,

yes, we can still function in this world by not using the I gadgets and online bill pay, debit credit cards or try walking down the street in bigger cities without being on CCTV; however, like the author of the quote you mentioned above warned, THIS WILL BE THE NORM and soon it will not be voluntary!!!

Try renting a car or hotel room without a credit card. In some places in L.A. there are coin less laundromats, yes you heard it, you have to have some form of digital transaction device like a credit card…i just read that Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta Georgia is going completely cashless! When the agenda is to force everything digital, then there truly is no privacy.

Watch the video I linked above, Age of Deceit 3 if you have some free time. Lots of nuggets of insight in that one.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Platoplubius
March 8, 2019 11:20 am

Which is why I have been banging the drum of Galt. You cannot have you cake and eat it too. If we want the trappings of the post modern world than we agree to their terms of service. When we purposefully remove ourselves and build new and lasting relationships that are not dependent upon playing their game we are able to liberate ourselves from servitude. Can everyone do it? Of course not, most wouldn’t want to, but the audience here is not the average consumer. By looking at this not as a what can I do? but rather what should I do, the choices become much clearer.

They can control those who want to be controlled or who put up no resistance. To control a planet full of people, the majority of whom do not live in the 1st world, is simply not possible even if they had complete control of every technology available. It is a perception they work tirelessly to make us believe, but if it were true, they wouldn’t waste any effort at all to convince us of it.

This is more whistling past the graveyard than it is wish fulfillment.

Mszyslak
Mszyslak
  hardscrabble farmer
March 11, 2019 6:41 pm

“To control a planet full of people, the majority of whom do not live in the 1st world, is simply not possible”

That much is true, but I think that one of the premises of your argument isn’t true. That is, it’s not about controlling all people on the planet — not immediately, anyway.

It’s only about controlling those who are in the 1st world.

And, only those who do not resist strongly enough. Those who do, however, will be shoved out of the 1st world (if they aren’t arrested for thoughtcrimes first).

There will be only those in the 1st world (controllers & controlled), and those not — the Proles. This is following the instruction manual that Orwell unwittingly published 70 years ago AND the utopian dream/nightmare that Huxley authored two decades earlier, with a little Matrix, Terminator, and a hundred other future day-mares mixed in.

You & I & like-minded get the shit end of the stick sooner or later. This (I would specify the ‘cashless society’ and appurtentant tech, rather than just generic A.I.) is the stick, and she’s already amply loaded with shit.

To say it another way, I respectfully (and fearfully) disagree.