We Are Going To Lose The Coming War With China

Guest Post by Kurt Schlichter

We Are Going To Lose The Coming War With China

Nations famously tend to always try to fight the last war, and what America is preparing to do today with the newly assertive China is no exception. The problem is our last war was against primitive religious fanatics in the Middle East and China is an emerging superpower with approaching-peer level conventional capabilities and an actual strategy for contesting the United States in all the potential battlespaces – land, sea, air, space and cyber. America is simply not ready for the Pacific war to come. We’re likely to lose.

In Desert Storm, Saddam Hussein was dumb enough to choose to face a U.S. military that was ready to fight its last war. That last war was the Cold War, where the Americans were prepared to fight a Soviet-equipped conscript army using Soviet tactics. And Saddam, genius that he was, decided to face America and its allies with a Soviet-equipped conscript army using Soviet tactics, except fractionally as effective as the Russians. It went poorly. I know – I was there at the VII Corps main command post as his entire army was annihilated in 100 hours.

Chances are that the Chinese will not choose to fight our strengths. In fact, those chances total approximately 100%.

It’s called “asymmetrical warfare” in English. What it’s called in Chinese I have no idea, but Sun Tzu wrote about it. Don’t fight the enemy’s strength; fight his weakness. Strike where he is not. Spread confusion about your intentions; force him to lash out. It’s all there in The Art of War; it’s just not clear anyone forming our current American military strategy has read it. Maybe they would if we labeled it “Third World” literature and said checking it out would check a diversity box for promotion.

We seem intent on fighting not the enemy we face but the enemy we want to face. This is a rookie mistake. And we’ve built our strategy around that error. Take aircraft carriers. I have a sentimental attachment to those potent floating fortresses – the Schlichters are usually Navy officers and I’m the random green sheep who went Army. There was a picture of my dad’s carrier (the U.S.S. Lake Champlain) hanging in my house as a kid. I love them – but in 2019 they’re a trap.

We’re hanging our whole maritime strategy in the Pacific Ocean around a few of these big, super-expensive iron airfields. If a carrier battle group (a carrier rolls with a posse like an old school rapper) gets within aircraft flight range of an enemy, then the enemy will have a bad day. So, what’s the super-obvious counter to our carrier strategy? Well, how about a bunch of relatively cheap missiles with a longer range than the carrier’s aircraft? And – surprise – what are the Chinese doing? Building a bunch of hypersonic and ballistic anti-ship missiles to pummel our flattops long before the F-35s and F-18s can reach the Chinese mainland. We know this because the Chinese are telling us they intend to do it, with the intent of neutering our combat power and breaking our will to fight by causing thousands of casualties in one fell swoop.

The vulnerability of our carriers is no surprise; the Navy has been warned about it for years. There are a number of ideas out there to address the issue, but the Navy resists. One good one is to replace the limited numbers of (again) super-expensive, short-range manned aircraft with a bunch more long range drones. Except that means the Naval aviation community would have to admit the Top Gun era is in the past, and that’s too hard. So they buy a bunch of pricy, shiny manned fighters that can’t get the job done.

Another mistake is over-prioritizing quality over quantity, which is the same mistake the Nazis made with their tanks. The Wehrmacht had the greatest tanks in the world – all top notch. Really good tanks. Tank-to-tank, they were the best – the dreaded Tiger had an 11.5-to-1 kill ratio. The Americans and Russians had merely decent tanks, just multiples more of them. Quantity has a quality all its own. Right now, America has something like 280 ships. We’ll have about 326 by 2023. That’s to cover the entire world. We had 6,768 ships when WWII ended in August 1945

Of course, it would also be nice if the Navy would emphasize seamanship and basic skills again so that it could keep its super-expensive ships from running into other vessels. The U.S.S. Fitzgerald collision not only killed some of our precious sailors, but took out a key weapons platform – 1/280th of our entire fleet! – because its officers failed again and again and because key systems on the ship were out of commission.

This is inexcusable, but it is being excused. The focus of our military has shifted from victory to satisfying the whims of politicians. Here’s a troubling thought – if you go to one of the service branches’ War Colleges and poll the faculty and students about America’s greatest strategic threat, as many as 50% of the respondents will tell you it is “climate change.” That’s not an exaggeration. Our military is supposed to be dealing with the Chinese military and its brain trust is obsessing about the weather in 100 years.

The Chinese are going to continue dumping exponentially more carbon than America into the air and preparing to take us down while we focus on this kind of frivolous nonsense. Did you know the Chinese are pillaging our tech here in America, while our intelligence community’s incompetence led to our spy networks in China being rolled up? Probably not – these are one-day stories because the elite in DC and the media are busy trying to push the guy who won the last election out of office.

Here’s how the Chinese win. First, they take out our satellites. You know the GPS location service on your phone? Satellites, which are easy to hit. Say “bye-bye” to much of the ability of our precision weapons to find their targets. Also up for destruction are the communications satellites we rely on to coordinate our operations. And then there is the Chinese cyberattack, not only on our military systems but on systems here at home that control civilian power, water and other logistics. A U.S military with no comms and no computers is essentially the Post Office with worse service. An America with a ruined internet is Somalia.

Then they hit our land bases on Guam, Okinawa and elsewhere with a blizzard of missiles, knocking them out and annihilating our aircraft on the ground. Maybe we could respond with B-2s flying from the continental United States. We have 19 whole combat-capable aircraft, assuming a 100% operational readiness rate, which is just not a thing. We might even take out a few missile batteries on the Chinese coast. We won’t know the difference though. As for our carriers, if they come to play, they are likely going to get sunk, and if they stay out of the fight, they are merely useless – assuming quiet diesel subs do not find and sink them.

This is not a surprise. We play wargames against the Chinese all the time, and we lose.

Much of this seems to be picking on the Navy, but that’s only because the Navy would take the lead in a fight against the Chinses in the Pacific. The other branches have similar issues with strategy, leadership and equipment. So, what is the answer? The answer may well be to reframe the question – instead of determining our objectives and then failing to provide the capabilities to achieve them, maybe we need to decide what capabilities we are willing to provide and form our strategic objectives to meet those realities. Moreover, we need to get it through our heads that no one is going to be as dumb as Saddam was and conveniently fight us the way we want to be fought. We need a complete strategic mindset revolution, one that moves from a few super-expensive systems to many affordable ones. We need to say good-bye to legacies of the 20th century, like mostly manned combat aircraft and a few huge carrier battle groups. We need to prepare to defeat the enemy we actually face, not the enemy we want to face.

On an equally cheery note, check out my novels People’s RepublicIndian Country and Wildfire, about an America split apart into red and blue nations at each other’s throats. Number Four is in progress for release this summer…and yeah, this time China is in the picture!

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45 Comments
CCRider
CCRider
March 21, 2019 7:40 am

Fitting article the day after the Orange Crusader is in a tank factory trash talking a dead man. I understand his next stop will be a Kentucky Flintlock factory where he’ll bless us with more of his views on George Conway or Ann Coulter. Talk about keeping it real.

Even a perma-cynic like me can’t root for the military to lose. When one of those soon-to-be-coral reef carriers goes down it will take thousands of kids with it. Let’s pray Ron Paul is right that the military will come to heel only when this country finally goes BK. What a pathetic friggen country we live in. Pray for bankruptcy to starve off slaughter.

SemperFido
SemperFido
  CCRider
March 21, 2019 8:13 am

We lost our spy network in China when Felonious Von Pantsuit opened up access to her closet server to the highest bidder. Those people were butchered. Large amounts of drones and the rod from god would go a long way to countering the Chicom threat. As the author said, our carriers are just a big target now.

StackingStock
StackingStock
  SemperFido
March 21, 2019 10:15 am

Feinstien’s Chinese spy driver for 20 years didn’t help.

Stucky
Stucky
  CCRider
March 21, 2019 12:31 pm

“Pray for bankruptcy to starve off slaughter.”

How does one starve slaughter? The word you are looking for is stave”

—- stave something off; Avert or delay something bad or dangerous.
‘a reassuring presence can stave off a panic attack’

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Also, there is nothing wrong with trashing a dead man — if that dead man is John Shitstain McCain.

CCRider
CCRider
  Stucky
March 21, 2019 1:31 pm

OK stave. I feel better

I didn’t say there was anything wrong with it per se. Just that it’s pointless and stupid, like tanks in the 21st century.

John L Kelly
John L Kelly
  CCRider
March 26, 2019 3:24 pm

What does the acronym “BK” mean Einstein? Lord I hate acronyms, and I was born and raised in the army.

bob sykes
bob sykes
March 21, 2019 8:01 am

Militarism infects our Ruling Class, and so they do Haiti, Nicaragua, San Salvador, Grenada, Serbia, Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen… And Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua (again) on on the table, on the bucket list. Not one of those countries attacked us or any of our allies. Each war was entirely optional. And most were/are being lost.

Trump campaigned against this nonsense, and now supports all of it. Apparently, the Rulers offered him a deal he couldn’t refuse.

I don’t want to see a peer to peer war with China. Does anyone think Russia and Iran would stand idly by or that they don’t have their own bucket lists? The military planners always do their war games this way. First, China. Then, Iran. Then Russia. But never all at once.

It seems the only way to stop a war with China-Iran-Russia is to take away the Pentagon’s toys. How about a 75% reduction in military spending. No Marine Corps, none. No carriers, none. No troops outside the US itself, none. No military alliances, none.

Does any American not of the Ruling Class care if China takes back Taiwan, or Russia the Ukraine and Baltics, or that Iranian ayatollahs can drive from Teheran to Beirut? Not I.

BB
BB
  bob sykes
March 21, 2019 8:16 am

As the General said ” War is a racket ” .Just another money making scam for a few at the top. As far as hoping America “Wins ” I’m not sure anymore knowing what I know now about the Devil worshipping ruling elite. The way they bash white people has caused me to hate these bastards . I hate to sound like that cause I know it will be young people who pay the price for their damn stupidity. Once you know the truth it changes everything.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  BB
March 21, 2019 9:36 am

You’re absolutely right BB, knowing the truth changes everything. I’ve noticed you’ve been very pessimistic of late. Have you forgotten that part of the truth which is cause for the greatest optimism of all? The peace which passes all understanding…

Philippians 4:6-7 KJB… “Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.”

Have a great day brother!

Done in Dallas
Done in Dallas
  grace country pastor
March 21, 2019 11:54 am

Good reminder for me as well, thanks.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Done in Dallas
March 21, 2019 2:37 pm

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MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit
  bob sykes
March 21, 2019 12:18 pm

“Does any American not of the Ruling Class care if China takes back Taiwan”

The official US policy is that Taiwan is part of China, so China taking back Taiwan is a moot point.
(two thing that are always true: 1-when you’re dealing with the mob, it’s always about money, and 2-when you’re dealing with China, it’s always about Taiwan)

“the United States recognized the Government of the People’s Republic of China as the sole legal government of China, acknowledging the Chinese position that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China. The Joint Communique also stated that the people of the United States will maintain cultural, commercial, and other unofficial relations with the people of Taiwan….The United States does not support Taiwan independence. Maintaining strong, unofficial relations with Taiwan is a major U.S. goal, in line with the U.S. desire to further peace and stability in Asia.”
https://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35855.htm

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
  MarshRabbit
March 22, 2019 2:16 am

“…so China taking back Taiwan is a moot point.”??

Taiwan was never part of Communist Mainland China so “taking back” Taiwan is not possible.

Any talk of “reunification” is semantic infiltration meant to make it seem like these 2 nations should be united when in fact the 2 systems of government are incompatible and would result in the deaths of untold numbers of Taiwanese.

Similar to the bullshit of “returning” Hong Kong to the murderous Red Chinese under the guise of 1 country 2 systems. Never in a million years when Great Britain leased the island, did they envision enslaving HK to a communist country.

We better get our fucking heads screwed on about China. And fast. They’re playing the long game for the win.

Brokedickandneuterednation
Brokedickandneuterednation
March 21, 2019 8:21 am

We spend approximately ten times the amount on defense as China or Russia and the only solution the US has is to throw more money at defense spending. How are China and Russia able to out do us on 10% of the money spent? Seems America has more money than brains. It just goes to prove that money cannot solve all of our problems.

NtroP
NtroP
  Brokedickandneuterednation
March 21, 2019 1:37 pm

We probably just need to throw a little more money at the DoD; that should fix it…

Brian Reilly
Brian Reilly
March 21, 2019 8:23 am

Mr. S. writes a compelling article, except for a few important details. There is not going to be a “war” between the Chinese, US or any other nation important to completing the globalist plan of owning everything. These boys are all over the place, and calling all the shots. They o not want the US disabled and out of business. Same thing for China, and the rest of the world that is capable of producing things they like. They don’t give a shit about Yemenis of Somalians, for obvious reasons, so live airstrikes are authorized on them. Not so for LA or NY.
THe Chinese may prevail over the US, but it will not be in a shooting war, prosecution of which will surely cripple both nations. The result will be an American workforce largely shackled to the Globalist business plan, and lots of neat electronic doo-dads to distract the sheople as the cuffs are tightened up.

Bubbah
Bubbah
March 21, 2019 8:28 am

I’m all for the US dramatically reducing it foreign footprint and closing down most of its military bases over in Europe/Asia. But I don’t consider China to be a benign threat to the world or its neighbors either. China has done some serious nasty stuff (Nepal etc.) and its likely they will continue to warmonger big time regardless of what the US does. I don’t see anyway to reasonably check Chinese power near their own country. I know its popular to cheerlead how F-ed up the US is, but that doesn’t mean that nearly all the countries in the world aren’t sketchy as hell as well, especially the big ones.

China is playing the funny money game at a level that even makes the US debt-fest look more mild. China’s aims may very well move way beyond Taiwan. Closing down shipping lanes in some areas would be a big deal for international trade. Again, I think the US massively reducing its footprint is a great idea, but that doesn’t mean it solves anything with China at all either. But who knows maybe we could consolidate power on this hemisphere of the world, work on emp-proofing the grid, cybersecurity, and actually protecting the waters near our country, rather than being spread out all over the place.

I do think its a false premise to believe the US is the sole source of MIC type thinking, China seems to be pushing that mindset as well. But it does seem that satellites, hypersonic missles, air power continue to be the way of the future vs. naval carrier groups and such that may be good vs. 3rd world countries, but aren’t going to mean much against anyone else–beyond loss of life and huge economic losses. But China certainly isn’t just sitting back and doing nothing, and stealing tech is a HUGE deal in the modern world. Not sure how long we can be Frenemies, although I guess the Demo-Communists here want to destroy our country and our cows as they plan to takeover and prove that statement about enemies domestic true.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Bubbah
March 21, 2019 3:17 pm

Remember that the F-117 Stealth fighter was around in quantity for a decade before anyone knew it or saw them. They were the UFO’s. I am going to wager there is stuff at Edwards and Area 51 that would blow Capt. Kirk’s mind. No serious person would tell us what the Aces up our sleeve are. Ivan and Han will find out the hard way should it come to that.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
March 21, 2019 8:38 am

It is pathetic what our republic has become and President Trump talked a good game but now ???
JANS described our navy as a fleet in a dangerous state of disrepair . 30% of our vessels are not sea ready let alone combat ready . We as a nation stripmined our industry that built and serviced the ships . The foundries and machine tooling companies are scarce and the trained labor force that worked these industries were tossed overboard 40 years ago .
Ask Mitch McTurtle about his father in-laws shipping business . FYI daddy in-law is a Chianese billonaire and the US leased ships from him to supply desert storm because we have no merchant fleet left .
On another happy note 70% of American males 18 to 24 are unfit physically , mentally or emotionally to be eligible for military service .
This is going to end badly .
Maybe China will help us out with a Marshall plan after we ar dessimated ? Ya sure that will happen !
Forget Me Not

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Boat Guy
March 21, 2019 10:33 am

My prayers have been more “targeted” lately. In summary, I ask the Father to help me perform His will as I care for family and friends and my community at large, both now and into futurity. And, if the future I envision comes to fruition, for our enemies to spare the swaths of the nation that were in vehement opposition to imperialism/tyranny/murder outside of self-defense. That, basically, is the Midwest and South as I see it.

Washington and NYC have turned everyone into enemies and they will be looking to feast. I am still stunned that the American people don’t see this, even though logically I understand why.

Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
March 21, 2019 8:42 am

Maybe stop making everyone an enemy?

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
March 21, 2019 9:55 am

Bingo bango!!

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
March 21, 2019 8:42 am

This article is spot on. The Chinese have a strategic vision of humbling Japan, expelling us from Asia, and dominating most of that landmass. Kurt is correct that we will lose a military encounter. Thanks to the foolish and greedy American “leaders” who stood by and encouraged China’s emergence as a military super power (not the least Bill Clinton, who in exchange for a campaign contribution allowed a Jewish moneybags to transfer ICBM guidance technology to China, advancing their capability 15 years in 15 minutes). Sat and listened to a drunk Chinese senior diplomat repeat their plan word for word back in the mid-1990’s. All has come true.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Southern Sage
March 21, 2019 11:34 am

China has a strategic vision of grinding Japan into submission. Looking at it from their historic point of view, I can’t say I blame them. Japan’s entire electronics industry would grind to a halt if China cut off its lanthanide exports to them. And that’s just in terms of trade leverage, not military leverage.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Articles of Confederation
March 21, 2019 3:40 pm

Japan currently has the largest surface fleet ex carriers. They have capability for VSTOL on some stuff and my guess would be we see fewer carriers and a lot more ships with one or two jump jets etc. Even submarines that could launch and retrieve a VSTOL. Drones and missiles certainly make more sense than floating cities with a big bullseye on them.

OutWithLibs
OutWithLibs
March 21, 2019 9:28 am

I have a nephew that just graduated Naval boot camp last Friday. He wanted to go into the Marines but his father and grandfather convinced him another branch would be safer. After reading this article, I fear more now for his safety.
All branches of our military are brainwashed to believe “America fighting good, other countries bad”. It’s sad to see so many lives lost or ruined because the elites want to continue The American world-wide Empire at any expense.
We need our troops home from 90% of the 800 bases in 70 countries across the world. Someone please explain to me why we started “lily pad” sites in Ouagadougou, Africa???
Kurt is right; China is preparing for what they know we have, not what they think they should fight. We, on the other hand, will look like kids on a playground shooting spitwads at the kid with a bb gun.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
March 21, 2019 9:57 am

“Right now, America has something like 280 ships. We’ll have about 326 by 2023. That’s to cover the entire world. We had 6,768 shipswhen WWII ended in August 1945”.

What is considered a ship?

“Here’s how the Chinese win. First, they take out our satellites. You know the GPS location service on your phone? Satellites, which are easy to hit. Say “bye-bye” to much of the ability of our precision weapons to find their targets.”

Out of curiosity, what weapon systems do they have (or any country have) to take out a satellite? I just haven’t heard of any.

e.d ott
e.d ott
  Donkey Balls
March 21, 2019 10:21 am

High altitude guided missiles work fairly well, as do lasers.

daniel
daniel
  e.d ott
March 21, 2019 11:35 am

gps satellites usually sit 10k-15k miles away, well outside the exosphere.

Bubbah
Bubbah
  Donkey Balls
March 21, 2019 11:10 am

I think that people act like the US military is Barney Fife or something?! Does the US overspend on militarly by MASSIVE amount, yep. In terms of costs do we get the same amount of equavilent power/defense from that money, nope. BUT, that doesn’t mean the US spend 700 billion and we are just a bunch of idiots either. The US can take out satellites as well, they can EMP China as well, they can nuke China as well. The mutually assured destruction comes into play with anything as serious an escalation as that. Our country has some serious air power, we have tactical nukes, we have lots of subs floating around. China taking out all the satellites is insane, thats nuclear war terroritory. Just like EMP’s etc. It’s all hideous news, and China wouldn’t “win” unless winning means having the planet and much of China radioctive. I really don’t see the US just saying golly gee, no more satellites they are all getting destroyed, oh well no biggy.

The US spent WAY too much money trying to flex its muscles all over the damn globe. And much of it probably hasn’t helped, or if anything made us a bigger target most of the time. But again, the US military is not Barney Fife, if anything that dramatic went down, we would have the ability to retaliate, but its probably back to the realm of MAD type responses. Our country wouldn’t need to be able to shoot a missle through a window, and I really don’t think taking out every satellite floating around at the same time makes any sense unless China is OK with end of the world scenarios b/c the sky would be filling up with missles within minutes.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Donkey Balls
March 21, 2019 3:45 pm

In “Red Storm Rising” in 1986 Tom Clancy has a lady F-15 pilot, Wendy “Buns” Nakamura, going up past 80,000 feet and launching an anti-satellite missile that would take out an orbiting satellite. I have no doubt we have that kind of capability at a minimum.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Donkey Balls
March 22, 2019 7:23 am

You haven’t been paying attention have you. Just launch another satellite up next to the one you want to destroy and blow it up. It’s already been done (in tests). The critical satellites are in stationary geosynchronous orbit … STATIONARY.

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
  Anonymous
March 22, 2019 6:14 pm

Which are at 25k miles more or less…

Rich
Rich
March 21, 2019 10:25 am

Does all this mean that I can’t by my Chinese made TV from Wal-Mart ?…..Because if that’s the case , I won’t be able to watch the commercials to help me decide what Chinese made smart phone to buy….very frustrating indeed.

anonsortof
anonsortof
March 21, 2019 11:01 am

There’s no question that in the next big war our carriers are going to get peppered with cheap missiles, and disabled or even sunk. The real question is, what happens next? Will the conflict escalate to nuclear? And/or will the US Gov be able to convince the American people to support a war, a la WWII after Pearl Harbor (any attack from China or Iran, regardless of how defensive, will be spun as PH II).

Just possibly, this time around the American people won’t have the stomach for it.

monger
monger
March 21, 2019 11:23 am

You would have to presume they have a interest in winning wars larger then the interest in making money to begin with. And of course a desire to oppose communism.

surfaddict
surfaddict
March 21, 2019 11:40 am

you ever hear of the A-Bomb? we got this covered, wipe em out, and save the carbon consumption a billion breathers would have otherwise destroyed the planet , one stone, two birds

DD
DD
March 21, 2019 11:44 am

They don’t scrimp on Airborne Command and Control either.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/aew-prc.htm

TampaRed
TampaRed
  DD
March 22, 2019 10:05 am

i didn’t read the link but taking out our awacs & other c&c planes is what i have read would be china’s plan —

Fatty
Fatty
  TampaRed
March 22, 2019 9:06 pm

And the tankers.

daniel
daniel
March 21, 2019 11:58 am

im not sure if we would lose or not. we do spend an incomprehensible amount on the MIC and most of it is wasted but through the graft there may be some diamonds which tip the balance. As for china, in my opinion the US is their biggest rival, but their biggest problem is (and always has been) domestic. this is what might make them a paper tiger. what happens with global economic collapse? how does china handle 100M pink-slipped steel and coal workers? or the 10’s of millions of the chinese middle-class, who while maybe keeping their job, their real-estate which is their whole net worth collapses in value? we have these same problems but in china it’s magnified by their population size. also the entirety of chinese culture is based on with corruption/cheating/stealing. it’s indigenous and they don’t see a problem with it. it’s as chinese as the mandate of heaven. which is why they have only gotten to where they are by buying as much white man tech as they can, and stealing everything else. who will they steal from when we fall?

in america another problem is there is no appetite for a ‘real’ war. bombing poopskins is one thing but ships being sunk is another (i don’t know about much of a land war, our countries are too far apart for that to happen again). the military is still overwhelmingly white in a country that is flirting with half brown, and i doubt the half brown give a shit about the chinese or even the white half enough to fight for the country.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  daniel
March 21, 2019 3:56 pm

I don’t know of any group more patriotic than Americans of Mexican ancestry. Over in the Quad cities in Silvis, I believe is a street called Hero St. in a Mexican neighborhood where over the years seven men have received the Congressional Medal of Honor. I saw that man Torres yesterday at the grocery store who was in the History Channel documentary about the Battle of Dak To. Please never say these guys are anything less than the best we have because they are.

BL
BL
March 21, 2019 2:56 pm

Watch this short video and then talk about why the US would lose a war with China. Remember…GOOGLE= US.gov

Dan Denharverston
Dan Denharverston
October 2, 2019 7:07 pm

Military Wars only benefit the incompetent self-serving elites of the deep state (financiers crooks, bankSters of the devil worshiping class) who have honed their grab on power since WWII to impregnable levels against the freedom of the masses that they parasite while the publicly visible Muppets in the washington governments obey in silence to these overlords and the people watch the farcical fake news cooked by the fake media. There isn’t such a thing anymore as winning or loosing a military war between USA and China. Because with a military face-off (conventional + nuke on both sides) there will be more to loose than to win on both sides. That war will never be fought. Instead it has already been replaced by an economical, industrial, demographical, insidious and creepy land grabs, technological know how stealing, data network spying type of war. It started in the 1990’s and China has the lead. NOT a war of explosions and soldiers but it will be just as bad in the long run. It will be a war of controlling and hoarding natural resources (including food crops and clean water), of creeping up everywhere slowly but effectively by reproducing faster. The chinese are the ants or termites and usa has been building axes to fight them. Big impressive axes for the wrong war. The ants will continue to CREEP everywhere in the world, multiplying like ants do, without declaring any military war. USA wants a military conventional war with China , it will not get it! The chinese will continue to annex south-east asian countries by proxy, they will secretly sponsor chinese populations to invade and replace foreign population where they invade and genocide behind closed doors (xinjang, tibet). They will displace smaller economies by paying their way in to corrupted small governments as is already happening in Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos and Africa. As Mao said the Chinese will win the world using the wombs of chinese women to reproduce faster than any other nation. At the same time buying every corporation, land, luxuries brand, wineries, castles, culture, world heritage everywhere in the world including in Europe.
The chinese strategy is a continuous stream of small grabs, small invasions, small acquisition of smaller corrupt governments and small and medium sized companies everywhere in the world. All of it never big enough to trigger a USA -China war but continue unstopped to full world conquest. Meanwhile reproducing like hords of locusts as they expand.
USA has absolutely zero strategy prepared to stop this because those in power do not care about the dominant demographic in usa. In fact a conventional war would have to be triggered by the USA and China will only fight it in defense. China’s front is not a military one but it will be more effective. China will never land in Japan with military troops, it will first strategically destroy Japan’s economy to bankruptcy then make all Japanese dependent on the Chinese economy, then will simply rule by proxy over Japan until all the japanese are Chinese’s dogs including its government will be Chinese with japanese nationality. Total annexation. USA’s role will turn into a powerless barking dog seeing it progressively and slowly happen not able to stop the creepy chinese progress like being caught in moving sands. Eventually the western people standard of living will have so fallen so low due to Chinese creep conquest that they will rebel against their own corrupt rich elites who failed to stop china in the 1990’s. No missile will be fired. We are already in phase 2 of this world progress. the standard of living in the USA today has already been impacted affected by China creep conquest since the 1990’s.
This strategy has worked for Hans in the past, it is why the military superior mongols were not able to turn China into Mongolia. Stealing know-how and technology has been the Han chinese main weapon since the silk road linked the Tang empire to ancient Persia. Many so called ancient chinese inventions are of dubious origins and may well have originated in smaller civilizations, copied by the Hans and used at a larger scale in the far East.

Dan Denharverston
Dan Denharverston
October 2, 2019 8:30 pm

There is something scary in human history, the disparition of homo-neanderthal with the advent and expansion of homo-sapiens. It was not a sudden extinction, is was progressive, creepy eradication. When homo sapiens got out of africa there were many other form of early humans called ‘hominids’ that had already evolved out of africa for million of years and it is not until homo-sapiens cross bred with several of them (most of them still unknown but representing at least 25% of the non-negroid human genom) that non-african modern humans came to existence. In europe it mixed with Neanderthal. But in Asia it also mixed with homo Denisovan. Now understand that europeans do not have denisovan gene ! And africans have neither. The Chinese Han clearly have a genetic heritage with additional resources that european never received. Their abilities at emulating and copying other cultures may be part of that hominid breeding genes useful for specific tasks in certain domains.

If one form of human slowly but successfully wiped out another, it can happen again. It won’t require a war. Who was homo denisovan ? look at Han Chinese and you are looking at 5% of it.