US vs. THEM

“I’ll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. “I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs.” “I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking.” “Hey, wait a minute, there’s one guy holding out both puppets!”” – Bill Hicks

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Anyone who frequents Twitter, Facebook, political blogs, economic blogs, or fake news mainstream media channels knows our world is driven by the “Us versus Them” narrative. It’s almost as if “they” are forcing us to choose sides and believe the other side is evil. Bill Hicks died in 1994, but his above quote is truer today then it was then. As the American Empire continues its long-term decline, the proles are manipulated through Bernaysian propaganda techniques, honed over the course of decades by the ruling oligarchs, to root for their assigned puppets.

Most people can’t discern they are being manipulated and duped by the Deep State controllers. The most terrifying outcome for these Deep State controllers would be for the masses to realize it is us versus them. But they don’t believe there is a chance in hell of this happening. Their arrogance is palatable.

Their hubris has reached astronomical levels as they blew up the world economy in 2008 and successfully managed to have the innocent victims bail them out to the tune of $700 billion, pillaged the wealth of the nation through their capture of the Federal Reserve (QE, ZIRP), rigged the financial markets in their favor through collusion, used the hundreds of billions in corporate tax cuts to buy back their stock and further pump the stock market, all while their corporate media mouthpieces mislead and misinform the proles.

There are differences between the parties, but they are mainly centered around social issues and disputes with little or no consequence to the long-term path of the country. The real ruling oligarchs essentially allow controlled opposition within each party to make it appear you have a legitimate choice at the ballot box. Nothing could be further from the truth.

There has been an unwritten agreement between the parties for decades where the Democrats pretend to be against war and the Republicans pretend to be against welfare. Meanwhile, spending on war and welfare relentlessly grows into the trillions, with no effort whatsoever from either party to even slow the rate of growth, let alone cut spending. The proliferation of the military industrial complex like a poisonous weed has been inexorable, as the corporate arms dealers place their facilities of death in the congressional districts of Democrats and Republicans. In addition, these corporate manufacturers of murder dole out “legal” payoffs to corrupt politicians of both parties in the form of political contributions. The Deep State knows bribes and well-paying jobs ensure no spineless congressman will ever vote against a defense spending increase.

Of course, the warfare/welfare state couldn’t grow to its immense size without financing from the Wall Street cabal and their feckless academic puppets at the Federal Reserve. The Too Big to Trust Wall Street banks, whose willful control fraud nearly wrecked the global economy in 2008, were rewarded by their Deep State patrons by getting bigger and more powerful as people on Main Street and senior citizen savers were thrown under the bus.

When these criminal bankers have their reckless bets blow up in their faces they are bailed out by the American taxpayers, but when the Fed rigs the system so they are guaranteed billions in risk free profits, they reward themselves with massive bonuses and lobby for a huge tax cut used to buy back their stock. With bank branches in every congressional district in every state, and bankers spreading protection money to greedy politicians across the land, no legislation damaging to the banking cartel is ever passed.

I’ve never been big on joining a group. I tend to believe Groucho Marx and his cynical line, “I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member”. The “Us vs. Them” narrative doesn’t connect with my view of the world. As a realistic libertarian I know libertarian ideals will never proliferate in a society of government dependency, willful ignorance of the masses, thousands of laws, and a weak-kneed populace afraid of freedom and liberty. The only true libertarian politician, Ron Paul, was only able to connect with about 5% of the voting public. There is no chance a candidate with a libertarian platform will ever win a national election. This country cannot be fixed through the ballot box. Bill Hicks somewhat foreshadowed the last election by referencing another famous cynic.

“I ascribe to Mark Twain’s theory that the last person who should be President is the one who wants it the most. The one who should be picked is the one who should be dragged kicking and screaming into the White House.” ― Bill Hicks

Hillary Clinton wanted to be president so badly, she colluded with Barack Obama, Jim Comey, John Brennan, James Clapper, Loretta Lynch and numerous other Deep State sycophants to ensure her victory, by attempting to entrap Donald Trump in a concocted Russian collusion plot and subsequent post-election coup to cover for their traitorous plot. I wouldn’t say Donald Trump was dragged kicking and screaming into the White House, but when he ascended on the escalator at Trump Tower in June of 2015, I’m not convinced he believed he could win the presidency.

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As the greatest self-promoter of our time, I think he believed a presidential run would be good for his brand, more revenue for his properties and more interest in his reality TV ventures. He was despised by the establishment within the Republican and Democrat parties. The vested interests controlling the media and levers of power in society scorned and ridiculed this brash uncouth outsider. In an upset for the ages, Trump tapped into a vein of rage and disgruntlement in flyover country and pockets within swing states, to win the presidency over Crooked Hillary and her Deep State backers.

I voted for Trump because he wasn’t Hillary. I hadn’t voted for a Republican since 2000, casting protest votes for Libertarian and Constitutional Party candidates along the way. I despise the establishment, so their hatred of Trump made me vote for him. His campaign stances against foreign wars and Federal Reserve reckless bubble blowing appealed to me. I don’t worship at the altar of the cult of personality. I judge men by their actions and not their words.

Trump’s first two years have been endlessly entertaining as he waged war against fake news CNN, establishment Republicans, the Deep State coup attempt, and Obama loving globalists. The Twitter in Chief has bypassed the fake news media and tweets relentlessly to his followers. He provokes outrage in his enemies and enthralls his worshipers. With millions in each camp it is difficult to find an unbiased assessment of narrative versus real accomplishments.

I’m happy he has been able to stop the relentless leftward progression of our Federal judiciary. Cutting regulations and rolling back environmental mandates has been a positive. Exiting the Paris Climate Agreement and TPP, forcing NATO members to pay their fair share, and renegotiating NAFTA were all needed. Ending the war on coal and approving pipelines will keep energy costs lower. His attempts to vet Muslims entering the country have been the right thing to do. Building a wall on our southern border is the right thing to do, but he should have gotten it done when he controlled both houses.

The use of tariffs to force China to renegotiate one sided trade deals as a negotiating tactic is a high-risk, high reward gamble. If his game of chicken is successful and he gets better terms from the Chicoms, while reversing the tariffs, it would be a huge win. If the Chinese refuse to yield for fear of losing face, and the tariff war accelerates, a global recession is a certainty. Who has the upper hand? Xi is essentially a dictator for life and doesn’t have to worry about elections or popularity polls. Dissent is crushed. A global recession and stock market crash would make Trump’s re-election in 2020 problematic.

I’m a big supporter of lower taxes. The Trump tax cuts were sold as beneficial to the middle class. That is a false narrative. The vast majority of the tax cut benefits went to mega-corporations and rich people. Middle class home owning families with children received little or no tax relief, as exemptions were eliminated and tax deductions capped. In many cases, taxes rose for working class Americans.

With corporate profits at all time highs, massive tax cuts put billions more into their coffers. They didn’t repatriate their overseas profits to a great extent. They didn’t go on a massive hiring spree. They didn’t invest in new facilities. They did buy back their own stock to help drive the stock market to stratospheric heights. So corporate executives gave themselves billions in bonuses, which were taxed at a much lower rate. This is considered winning in present day America.

The “Us vs. Them” issue rears its ugly head whenever Trump is held accountable for promises unkept, blatant failures, and his own version of fake news. Holding Trump to the same standards as Obama is considered traitorous by those who only root for their home team. Their standard response is that you are a Hillary sycophant or a turncoat to the home team. If you agree with a particular viewpoint or position of a liberal then you are a bad person and accused of being a lefty by Trump fanboys. Facts don’t matter to cheerleaders. Competing narratives rule the day. Truthfulness not required.

The refusal to distinguish between positive actions and negative actions when assessing the performance of what passes for our political leadership by the masses is why cynicism has become my standard response to everything I see, hear or read. The incessant level of lies permeating our society and its acceptance as the norm has led to moral decay and rampant criminality from the White House, to the halls of Congress, to corporate boardrooms, to corporate newsrooms, to government run classrooms, to the Vatican, and to households across the land. It’s interesting that one of our founding fathers reflected upon this detestable human trait over two hundred years ago.

“It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime.”Thomas Paine

Thomas Paine’s description of how moral mischief can ruin a society was written when less than 3 million people inhabited America. Consider his accurate assessment of humanity when over 300 million occupy these lands. The staggering number of corrupt prostituted sociopaths occupying positions of power within the government, corporations, media, military, churches, and academia has created a morally bankrupt empire of debt.

These sociopaths are not liberal or conservative. They are not Democrats or Republicans. They are not beholden to a country or community. They care not for their fellow man. They don’t care about future generations. They care about their own power, wealth and control over others. They have no conscience. They have no empathy. Right and wrong are meaningless in their unquenchable thirst for more. They will lie, steal and kill to achieve their goal of controlling everything and everyone in this world. This precisely describes virtually every politician in Washington DC, Wall Street banker, mega-corporation CEO, government agency head, MSM talking head, church leader, billionaire activist, and blood sucking advisor to the president.

The question pondered every day on blogs, social media, news channels, and in households around the country is whether Trump is one of Us or one of Them. The answer to that question will strongly impact the direction and intensity of the climactic years of this Fourth Turning. What I’ve noticed is the shunning of those who don’t take an all or nothing position regarding Trump. If you disagree with a decision, policy, or hiring decision by the man, you are accused by the pro-Trump team of being one of them (aka liberals, lefties, Hillary lovers).

If you don’t agree with everything Trump does or says, you are dead to the Trumpeteers. I don’t want to be Us or Them. I just want to be me. I will judge everyone by their actions and their results. I can agree with Trump on many issues, while also agreeing with Tulsi Gabbard, Rand Paul, Glenn Greenwald or Matt Taibbi on other issues. I don’t prescribe to the cult of personality school of thought. I didn’t believe the false narratives during the Bush or Obama years, and I won’t worship at the altar of the Trump narrative now.

In Part II of this article I’ll assess Trump’s progress thus far and try to determine whether he can defeat the Deep State.

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AC
AC

Elite group of psychopaths? Um . . .
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But how bad can it be, really?
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Well, OK, then.

Llpoh
Llpoh

What the fuck is wrong with you? You post this shit as the first response to Admin’s work? Fucking asshole.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)

You can’t show these guys the truth without them turning it into a Jewfest. Or they will pooh-pooh it with the eternal, At Least He’s Not Hillary.
AC, BB and Yokes are braindead. Their followers are terminal.

AC
AC

Name calling, rather than meaningful rebuttal? You are consistent, I guess.

When you look at who these psychopaths in positions of power and influence are, you can not notice the thing they have in common, So, what the fuck is wrong with you that any mention of this common feature among those people drives you insane?

You must have your head shoved so far up your ass, you think you can see daylight and smell roses.

Llpoh
Llpoh

Wrong time wrong place.
Fucking moron.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)

He’s a one-trick pony who learned everything he knows from the Yokes and BB school of lower learning.

Ghost

Psssst…. I suggest you reply something about sycophants calling the ass-kissers obsequious brown-nosers.

But that’s just the old red rope bitchiness shining through. Did you see my duct taped self-portrait?

What do you think about “Save a Nurse, Ride a FarmGirl?” for Flat Stucky’s Theme Song instead of Ride a Cowgirl.

Wouldn’t you agree I’m more of a Farmgirl?

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Would you have a clue what to do if I got that cured coyote pelt into your hands?

AC
AC

Substanceless hack.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)

Says the ghost of a turd.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Enough turd-hacking already.

This is a kosher butcher shop.

Lt. Greyman, NVA
Lt. Greyman, NVA

Because the impact of foreign influences is important. The impact of ALPAC on political discussion is important. The impact of SPLC and the ADL is important. Demographics is important. If Whites are a minority after 2040, Aztlan is formed and the USA shatters or simply fails in the manner of Detroit or Atlanta or Camden or Chicago or LA or Clayton County, GA or Rhodesia or South Africa, it is important. Walled city-States of Whites with the Horde always just outside would be our future, brought about by a rich elite who regard us as “Goyium” Cattle, lower than servants.

wdg
wdg

Can anyone argue against the fact that there is a major genetic component to how we behave, the culture we construct, the communities we live in and the civilization we build? And with regard to Jews, the prevalence for neurological disorders has been well researched and documented (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/projects/gap/cgi-bin/study.cgi?study_id=phs000448.v1.p1). A recent study suggests that Ashkenazi Jews descend from 350 people which indicates high levels of inbreeding although Israel is not included in the list of countries considered here: https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/inbreedingdpression.pdf

This is a very important subject because if it is not acknowledged and addressed, we could all end up annihilated in a nuclear holocaust. This was also touched on by a Jewish Professor Michael Levin in “Why Race Matters”.

Anonymous
Anonymous

“Their arrogance is palatable.”
PALPABLE
unless you think arrogance tastes good

Llpoh
Llpoh

Thanks Admin! Of course the puppeteers are in control. Looking forward to part 2.

BTW – have the pesos, zlotys, rupiah, and yen arrived yet? If not, should be there soon. I recommended you send the college boy to the bank!

tropical storm
tropical storm

He knows very well who’s paying him and where the money come from. 😉

Don’t worry… 🙂

c. richie
c. richie

Anxiously awaiting for Admin to tell us how HE got owned and by whom.

RiNS

You seem unable to read for comprehension…

Might it be genetic..

Gator

You’ve summed up my thoughts much more eloquently than I ever could. It IS frustrating. The shitty thing is, even though I’m well aware of the propaganda thats thrown at us all non-stop, I still feel like I’m falling for it sometimes, mainly when I defend trump against some patently absurd nonsense regarding MUH RUSSIANS. His too-many-to-count fuck ups, betrayals, and down right stupid moves are left undiscussed because of the constant stream of bullshit coming out of both the left and the right. Thus, the same agenda of the last 3 or 4 admins continues unabated, while the millions of well intentioned people who voted for him to end this shit remain oblivious to it because they read what he tweets about and think that any of it actually happens. Sucks. I mostly just don’t talk about it with people I know anymore.

So many trump supporters laughed their asses off, correctly, at the ‘Hope and Change’ slogan of the obama years, and mocked those who believed it as the lemmings they were. Yet these same people are falling for the exact same thing with slightly different window dressing. Its pathetic. And yes, criticize him for any of his numerous failings, you get those labels thrown at you. Fine, I don’t care what I’m called my nearly anyone. But it really does show just how effective the modern propaganda machine has become when you now have millions of trump supporters defending him for going against the very things they were voting or just 2 years ago. It’s truly pathetic. And don’t even get me started on the Q shit. Anyways, this is getting well into TL/DR territory and Im barely getting started so I’ll just end it by saying this is a great post, and perfectly captures my frustration.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)

Gator, as Old Pangloss advised, “go ugly early, save money” – I went the cynic route long ago. Maybe I miss a few exciting moments but it saves me having to lose faith and hope eventually when their mask falls off.

RiNS

Gator

Feeling much the same as you. Four years ago as Trump descended that elevator I saw him as a curiosity. Admit now as I did then to enjoying his adverse affect on the confirmation bias that permeates every aspect of our lives. Where I live it is hard to find anyone who will publicly defend him IRL or online. There is tremendous pressure to conform to the us vs. them narrative outlined by Jim.

OrangeMan bad is not condusive to inspiring debate.

But that is the point.

The proles are expected to twaddle at edges while the rich and their kept sychopants in media, government and industry strip the house to the studs. Carrying away everything of value along with the sink…

Llpoh
Llpoh

Oz just had an election, and the lunatic left lost. Their response has been:

– if people were not so stupid, they would have voted left
– if people were better educated they would have voted left
– if people were not so stupid they would understand higher taxes are good for them
– if people were not so stupid they would understand that $250 billion is a small price to pay to combat climate change (as though ANYTHING Oz does will affect climate change, were it an actual thing)
– people are stupid because they do not understand that all their money it belongs to us

Etc. Etc. Sound familiar? You cannot make this shit up.

I just want govt that will stop doing things. Everything they do makes it worse. I just want stability and certainty. It is bad enough as it is, but if they simply stop, eventually people will figure out how to work with what they have. They are a hammer in search of a nail.

They do not need to seek out problems to fix. Just stop, and leave us the fuck alone.

steve
steve

Great post from Admin!

“leave us the fuk alone”-never gonna happen because there is too much money and power in not leaving us alone.

Anxiously awaiting for Admin to tell us how Trump got owned and sold us out.

ubu
ubu

Me too, me too! I’m dying to find out how Trump got owned and sold us out. 🙂

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer

I just wrote a piece about that vote. Hysterical response from the losers, as always. Some things you can set your watch by.

Llpoh
Llpoh

H – look forward to it. I have been trolling the bastards on one of the big Oz lefty sites. They are going crazy.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy

The circle of Wall Street to K-Street to Capitol Street are in full control and many middle class working people are awakening to the absolute bull shit we have been served up for decades .
Wash Rinse Repeat . Tax Cuts are meaningless when withholdings are reduced but not the amount claimed thru theft by government then of course we have local government wonks taxing rain that falls on our property that we never actually own thanks to property tax laws that allow you a deed to property you purchase as long as you pay the government for permission to claim ownership .
No President Trump is not the average Joe or Janes guy but then nobody really is or ever was . At least Trump made a showing to bad that does not bail out the millions citizens screwed by the Circle Jerk . Instead the average American waits till the day comes to pay a tax or eat and when not if a badge wearing armed government agent shows up to evict them from their home for non payment and reality is banging on their door maybe some of us will grow a spine then again probably not .
The thought of being free men pursuing our own interest unencumbered by government theft may again be rekindled but it will likely require a great deal of blood to be spilled !
“FORGET ME NOT”

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer

Don’tconfuse Us vs Them with Trump. For me at least Trump was a better alternative but not the standard bearer….he used to be a fucking Democrat. He has been useful mostly in getting the Deep State to drop the mask and show the world the true banality of evil….Brennan and Comey being representative of the evil morons in charge of implementing policy.

I always to say it’s not left vs right (us vs. them) it really is DC vs. the rest of the USA.

Losing power to Trump (an outsider) was unacceptable.

That should tell you everything you need to know…there isn’t a single honest person in DC…nuke the fucking place and start over.

Ron Paul is a good person but actually very rigid in many unfortunate ways…..his foreign policies would have been disastrous…..America cannot be an island though the wars of empire have been equally disastrous. I am still hoping to see the Bushies brought up on war crimes!

My strongest preference is for no government but alas we have far too many stupid people to pull that off.

E.g. I don’t steal, murder etc because of a law, I don’t do it because it is evil and I do don’t evil things. Unfortunately, we need some level of deterrent to the less moral amongst us.

Government at all levels in the US (local, State and Federal) became the criminal predator long ago……

Gator

“America cannot be an island though the wars of empire have been equally disastrous.”

Point me to where he said “America should be an island” or any such thing. What he advocated for was peaceful trade with all nations, and entangling alliances with none. Worked out pretty good for us up until Woodrow Wilson, and its been down hill since. And how can you hold both of those opinions when they are diametrically opposed to each other? We should do some foreign intervention and overthrowing of a few select governments, but a few less than we did? Bomb some wedding parties, thats a good thing, but maybe not quite as many? Throw a few formerly at least functional countries into chaos but not as many? Most thing ARE our business, but not quite as much as Bush?

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer

Now, who is doing Us vs Them? I was thinking when Ron said that WWII was unnecessary. I can see the argument but it’s just wrong….evil exists and we either fight it, join it or get destroyed by it. That’s the rigidity of principle……”War is never needed” is great and in general correct but there are threats which must be dealt with. I set that bar very high….if we are willing to exterminate every single person in a country, young, old, babies, non-combatants because they represent a lethal threat then, by all means, let’s destroy them with every weapon in our arsenal…..nuke them till they glow. Short of that level of threat but being actually attacked then I advocate for a deterrent response…..something on the order of 1M x’s proportionality…..eg. Iran kills 50 US sailors…….well the missiles to destroy their top 5 cities in total are coming down. Pretty simple rule, do it once and we would never need to do it again. Same for nuclear powers……China fucks with navigation in international waters…..so long Shanghai…..Alternatively we as Ron advocated for……stay out of other countries business….leave them alone and no small wars.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

You were thinking? There’s a threat ‘which must be dealt with’.

Governance, in all forms, has always been about “Us against Them”. Somebody has to be the enemy. You see them where they aren’t. Israel is your David Copperfield, conjuring noble reasons to die for a cheap trick.

All empires fail soon after making everyone their enemy. Are we done yet? Our leaders, like Us, look at history through a toilet paper tube, at Them. Alliances are good for only one thing. Fighting other people’s wars against Them.

America’s first Executive, ‘W’ the 1st, discouraged foreign alliances, while acknowledging that international treaties should be respected:

“It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it; for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements.”

“Nations have no permanent enemies and no permanent alliances, they only have permanent interests.” Lord Palmerston.

Jews didn’t slaughter Native Americans, nor are they guilty of more genocide than any other race. But what they have done, with their inbred, bullet-proof belief in their God-given superiority, is give everybody everywhere reason to believe they are a good enemy to have. Israel is Them to all of Us.

Except for the US, we’re with Them. Israel’s bitch.

What a bunch of fucking stupid, looser whores we’ve let Them turn Us into. We obediently help Israel pimp our children into war after war after war.

Sure – we need 800 bases provoking fear all over the world. We NEED moar war. Over there. For Them. Were too stupid to see how what we do for Them wages war on every part of US.

PlatoPlubius

@ Diogenes Dung,

You said,

Our leaders, like Us, look at history through a toilet paper tube, at Them.

In parts of England a “fart” is referred to as a “trump”…

Have you ever “methane huffed?” Apparently it works very well using a toilet paper tube…

We got a bunch of fuckers that are high and deluded from huffing too many trumps and tweets!!

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Perfectly plebian pubic plate, predictably proving my point.

Blaming the HNIC for the cultural petri dish that grows niggers…

… while refusing to give him credit for squeezing NATO out of decades of leaching U$ defense at our expense.

Maybe you should consider a deeper lecture on a topic in which you have practical and practiced expertise, fart sniffing.

PlatoPlubius

Dio Ding,

You come at me with some lame was shieat….nigga please!

NATO just as the corporation better known as the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA are controlled by the “capital machine” that Damon Vrabel eloquently explains in the video I linked below entitled “Debunking money “…

Don’t come.at me with that bullshit that Trump’s hardline rhetoric did anything that wasn’t already planned at the G8 and G20 meetings. He did nothing more than jump on the bandwagon which was prescribed to build up the militaries other NATO countries’ and the organization’s partners like Japan and Australia and put even more of the assets into the coffers of these weapons manufactures and defense contractors…

It is time to reaximine your worldview of where the true machavalian power resides in this, the Real world ….not some cockimame false narrative and false paradigm you were indoctrinated into.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

nigga, pleeze…. Lame ass shit? You’re drippin’ with it when you’re not fapping methane.

NATO was planning to raise its own rent all along.
NATO was done suckin’ Uncle Sam’s dried up moobs.
NATO was going to end their ‘free’ ride and walk home.

“NATO was…” is Trumps plan, not NATOs.

He’s had to walk that talk back a bit, but we’ll see what happens when he is reelected. He is correct, NATO is obsolete, strategically speaking, as has always been a pathetic military boondoggle.

In three years you’ll be parroting that it was NATO’s idea to end itself, not Trumps. It’s a horrible deal for Americans and he doesn’t need the money of weapons manufacturers to win again. He just needs to stay alive.

For now, Trump has to rope-a-dope so the NATO money you mentioned can run for cover as (anti-war) Libtards play their coveted role of ‘R2P’ and freak out about us abandoning our Alliance in Europe to Russian aggression.

PlatoPlubius

Dio poop

NATO ain’t going anywhere! Are you that dense? Where would it be going if all these countries are spending millions and millions of dollars purchasing new equipment!

NATO will be the alliance to bring the world to the brink of all out WWIII! I’ve said it for a long time on TBP!

NATO vs BRICS = WWIII

I also said that Turkey would either withdraw its membership or be forced to leave the alliance. Time continues to come to my aid as Turkey has almost unofficially withdrawn from NATO, partnering with Russia to build new S-500 missile defense systems, purchasing S-400 missile systems and taking loans from both Russia and China.

It’s the same ol playbook the “capital machine ” used in WORLD WAR I, alliances, tormented foreign entanglements, sell more bullets, bombs, guns and stuff, send more poor off to kill one another….call in the chips and liquidate liabilities.

Rinse repeat

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

I damn near get a hernia laughing at the notion NATO will start WWIII.

Israel will start WWIII in the Levant. It’s an existential matter for them. Nothing motivates like the fear of extermination by muzzie. Europeans willingly, ignorantly invite it.

But please prophesize for us, Nostrilpubics! These Bellicose, testosterone poisoned, warmongering Europeans will start WWIII… exactly how long after they stop bending over their women and children for muzzies they invite and subsidize?

Countries spend money on weapons because it makes their leaders rich, not because they want to fight. Leaders pull their countries into war when they can’t loot legally.

NATO won’t fund itself and we won’t be funding it much longer. We won’t be funding Social Security much longer. Make another utterly idiotic forecast, and say NATO will around after Social Security is gone.

PlatoPlubius

Dio Poopoo,

Nowhere did I say NATO would start WWIII…

This is what I said,

NATO will be the alliance to bring the world to the brink of all out WWIII!

Just as the public justification used to get the nations of the world into WWI …ALLIANCES will be used to bring us to the brink of WWIII. The Archduke Franz Ferdinand moment could be IS RA EL, or any of a wide range of black swan events or false flags….

Read foe comprehension instead of trying to be so clever, it doesn’t suit you. Leave it to the Big Dogs

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Being clever is Mystico’s Big Dog gig. Nobody tops him when he has more than one eye peeled open. I am a his fumbling understudy. It suits me.

But few exceed the Dung-master in stomp-splattering shitheads who can’t smell their own offal.

NATO vs BRICS = WWIII…

…is what you said.

Please, Sun Tzu von Clausewitz, explain to the strategically stunted just how NATO kicks off WWIII with Brazil, Russia, India, and China…

…at the behest of Ferdinand Netanyahu, of course.

Surely, from your wide range of probable black swan events or false flag, you can upchuck your implausible indigestion and allow me to stomp up some more shitbowl splatter-batter for your braindead biscuits.

PlatoPlubius

@ Dung,

Just as the alliances establishes before WWI stated that those countries allied with one another would come to the common defense of the other, the alliance between NATO and NATO-partnered nations is set up the same way.

It doesn’t take much in the expending of mental energy to see how this has been set up similar to WWI. Most wars are planned many years before the “reasons” or ” events ” that precipitate the public justification for war.

You are already seeing the currency wars and trade wars between countries aligning themselves with Russia, China, Iran and India and NATO ….trade wars and currency wars always lead to physical wars….most are being waged right now as proxy wars, see Syria, Lybia, Venezuela, Yemen and on and on and on….

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Damn. Pesky skeeter, aren’tcha?

Buzzing everybody’s ears with notions that the U.S. will honor “mutual defense alliances” in Europe or anywhere else. We can’t get out of our own way here at home, much less help anyone get us out of their way in their country.

WE are Israel’s Proletarian Guard, and everybody in Europe knows that.

No European country trusts us (O.K., maybe Latvia and Poland), and for good reason. We’re a bunch of lying, cheating, double-dealing, backtracking, thieving thugs who are getting pimped by Israel.

We’ll never ‘shoot’ our wad in Europe as long as Israel is threatened. Everybody in Europe knows that too

We won’t defend Israel, either, when the muzzies have had enough and all Arabs (including UAE, Saudis and Qataris) do much better job than they did in the six -day war. It doesn’t require nukes.

You think our Navy (which will never forget the Liberty) is going to defend Israel? Really?

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

To answer my question for you, having been raised in a Navy family and served myself, we’re a mutinous bunch when faced with batshit orders.

Marines became a ‘Naval’ force to protect Captains.

PlatoPlubius

You’re still talking like the U.S. and its leadership aren’t captured and manipulated by the “capital machine “…

if The powers that shouldn’t be, want the U.S. military to do something…IT WILL. It’s that simple. The trick is developing the right justifications and PUBLIC perceptions via the controlled media and mockingbird presstitutes …

When you say shit like “other countries don’t trust us” you are oversimplifying and generalizing a bit too much for rational discourse.

Many of the people in those countries don’t trust us, sure….but again, your comments fail to address the fact that many of the European countries are captured and vassals of the same supranational “capital machine” Vrabel goes to great length to explain in his YouTube series “Debunking Money”…

A YouTube series that has been deleted from YouTube countless times over the last 10 years but thanks to it being copied and uploaded , mirrored again continues to shine light into the dark crevices of the shadow world people were not taught in Public indoctrination centers!

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

PlateofPublics won’t flush!

“if The powers that shouldn’t be, want the U.S. military to do something…IT WILL. It’s that simple.”

You’re reduction is for the simpleminded. The powers that ‘shouldn’t be’?

You stealing the Libtards limp wristed arguments now? “Waaaah… NOT fair – shouldn’t be!!!” Spend much time in daycare?

The powers that be are the same as they have always been. Get over it. People don’t change, history is a metronome of their repeated mistakes.

You cannot hear history’s tempo and ignore the best possible example of where we are in our historical narrative; the unavoidable outcome of what we are doing. We’re on the same ‘accelerated’ trajectory as Rome.

Did Emperor Valerian troops simply do what he said as the Persians made him into a footstool?

Did King Louis XVI solders protect his head from becoming a pole ornament?

You got more than fairy tales to spin, Aesuck?

PlatoPlubius

Dio,

You said,

The powers that be are the same as they have always been. Get over it.

I’m way past being over it and yet I feel referring to these often inbred, immoral group of sychopants as TPTB, is a misnomer….since power can derived from numbers and we definitely have the numbers…unfortunately human nature being what it is and the divide and conquer tactics ratcheted up to all time highs, those numbers are being played against one another as usual.
The U.S. of America corporation is definitely on the same trajectory as Rome, no disagreement there.

Your points about soldiers not fighting because they object and yada yada yada fails to consider the current state of affairs here, pretty soon everyone will work for the government, military or otherwise…since globalization, monopolistic refulations to squeeze small and medium businesses (aka competition) and the offshoring of jobs have decimated our productive capabilities….all by design…Control, control, control

Churn baby churn!

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

You know jack shit about ‘government workers’ I spent over a half-century with them and there’s two things I can assert as an iron-clad fact:

‘Government workers’ is an oxymoron; you are a moran…

…who can’t get over Beetle Bailey intentionally ‘misunderstanding’ his Sargent’s orders.

You sure that wasn’t in your comic book history collection?

PlatoPlubius

Please tell me what I don’t understand about government workers.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

You think like one. You reason like one. You labor like one.

Not at all.

You say NATO will start WWIII.

Then you say, “Nowhere did I say NATO would start WWIII”

I point out

“NATO vs BRICS = WWIII…
…is what you said.

“Please, Sun Tzu von Clausewitz, explain to the strategically stunted just how NATO kicks off WWIII with Brazil, Russia, India, and China…”

And you lame-ass.gov your way through a retarded collage: Trade war, proxy wars, real wars, Oh! My!!” and then, your final bureaucratic booger:

“The trick is developing the right justifications and PUBLIC perceptions via the controlled media and mockingbird presstitutes … ”

Ya mean like Hertz and Pulitzer did to get us into the Spanish American war? Nobody is going to push that plunger in Europe. Europeans have no backbone, they were pussyfied by the Marshal Plan and now invite their daughter’s rapists to lounge about, subsidized. No false flag will rouse them from their cuckoldry.

NATO won’t start it. The BRICs aren’t spoiling for a fight. Your arguments are perfect for a pentagon drone, whose career depends on not thinking.

PlatoPlubius

Seems like a lot of projection coming from you. I must be right over the target…

You still use Strawman arguments, putting words into my moith like a good lil CNNunt presstitute, so you can knock them down and try and feign and retain some semblance of respectability all the while misdirecting people away from what I did say….

What I will say is Let the chips fall where they may…the Truth always WINS OUT!

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

“Seems like” is your best intro. You should leave it at that.

Falling apart intellectually is signaled the Libtard chant; “You’re projeeeeecting!”

What I’m projecting is the claim that only a phony insists that NATO vs BRICs = WWIII without giving a cogent argument (i.e. an example of what the flash point to launch nukes will be – ’cause that’s what would happen). What sort of actual, plausible scenario raises cucks to war monger status. What is your best guess for what makes either side want to fight enough to die?

Why is it so difficult to get you to back up your bullshit?

Your lame projection of ‘trade wars’ into a European cradle for WWIII is not bad for a sophomoric bureaucratic. You should be Trump’s National Security Advisor.

PlatoPlubius

Again, putting words into my mouth. I said “to the brink of WWIII” ….nowhere did I even mention “nukes”….classic tactics from shills. Build up a faux argument then destroy it to show your dominance. You better call in some reinforcements or change your name again because your true colors are bleeding through your comments.

I gave many possibilities, false flag like a Gulf of Tonkin incident , a cyber attack blamed on a state actor which would also possibly provide an excuse for a major stock market correction that is well overdue and the justification to rouse public sentiment to invade yet a other country under false pretexts…

Carry on with your gatkeeping duties that you obviously really suck at.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Accuse me of putting words in your mouth by putting your words in my mouth. How ingenious, and you don’t even know you’re doing it.

I didn’t say that ‘you mentioned’ that nukes would be used. That’s what I asserted, not you. I have to wait for you to say something before I can assert it? At least that’s consistent with your world view of how things ‘should work’. Let you provide answers that make no sense whatsoever, unchallenged.

The U.S. is breaking nuclear treaties to roll out low-yield nukes, specifically because all of European and NATO forces combined cannot win a conventional land war against Russia. Nobody ever has and nobody will. Europeans know this, even if you don’t. They won’t attack Russia.

My assertion is that BRICs have NO reason to attack Europe that is worth the risk of assured nuclear Armageddon. Ditto for Europe attacking BRICs.

None of the examples you cited of as the nexus for WWI and WWII included the risk of frying the entire planet. You act like WWIII is an unavoidable accident in the European theater. WWIII will be every country for itself. There will be no allies in a nuclear free-for-all.

The Levant is full of people who want Armageddon, on both sides. That is where WWIII will begin. It needs no ‘accidental misunderstanding’.

You claim that NATO + BRICs = WWIII. Then you refuse to offer an intelligible path to your conclusion, denying you asserted it.

Lame accusations are all that back up your stupidity, because your intellect can’t open an envelope.

Who fires the first nuke (MY assertion, not yours) BRICs or NATO?

Pony up or shut up, cunt.

OTOH/IMHO
OTOH/IMHO

“You think our Navy (which will never forget the Liberty) is going to defend Israel? Really?”
It was Naval officers, knowing the Liberty was under attack, who did not resist the stand-down order- what makes you think they will behave differently next time? As to the claim they thought they were attacking an Egyptian ship, withholding foreign aid until they produced their gun camera videos would have been a simple answer.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

True that. Our fleet could have done a lot more to help their brothers under attack by our Allies. But then is not now.

Then, there were multiple, contradicting orders and reports of what was and wasn’t happening. Combat is always like that. It takes surreal calm and unflappable courage too act with conviction when nobody is sure what the fuck is happening. Nobody attacks their alliance in the middle of a war. Israel did. Everybody knows that now.

There was no ‘general mistrust’ of Israel’s motives 50 years ago. It’s endemic to Naval culture now. NOBODY trusts the bastards. How many Jewish officers does Annapolis graduate? Think synagogue in a closet grooming a politician.

I know our Naval commanders will behave differently next time if there’s EVER a hint that Israel is attacking one of our ships. Every swinging Navy dick will get hard for Israeli ass. And any commander who doesn’t let them eat will get a bullet in the back of the head on their way overboard.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer

Plato and the other Deus Ex Machina folks will always say everything is planned by an omniscient enemy which they hate but are “powerless” to do anything about……The Farter in Chief,…..got elected and is doing his best to chip away at the deep state while Plato sits in a cave huffing Jenkem and talking about platonic forms that are as real as unicorns shitting rainbow sherbet. A total negation of self by Plato and the couch-bound conspiracists.

PlatoPlubius

Notice how Martrl attacks the messenger, never discussing the evidence with respect to our current system, which institutions are in a subordinate role to the other and who has access to the global intelligence apparatus, as Vrabel refers to it as, the “capital machine”

Just lame, tired, ad hominem, soon to be followed by Strawman arguments….so boring and cliche…

Riddle me this,

What rules this place, the Constitution or the UCC?
And no, I don’t mean TBP, we ALL know that ADMIN runs this shitshow!

PlatoPlubius

Martel,

Just because you no comprende doesn’t mean my statements aren’t cogent…

Your willful ignorance is tragic! But I’m not surprised. Many an “Always Trumpster” refuse to let in any new information that conflicts with their supposdely correct worldview.

You talk alot but don’t even know what the UNIFORMED COMMERCIAL CODE UCC is!

Research more, talk less, unless of course you want to remove any doubt in our minds that you are a fool.

What you mention above is part of the story, yet, incomplete…

Perhaps a quote will help explain…

“Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. ”
Thomas Jefferson
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/thomas_jefferson_138493

The British you refer to it, again is part of it, Fabian socialism is the ISM used to implement mich of the social and economic controls over other previously uncorrupted and free governments and nation states…the “capital machine ” is supranational and built upon pragmatism where the Ends surely justify the means.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

I’ve notice that you never back up your arguments with anything more than a rehash of the bullshit you predicate them on.

There might be one or two exceptions, but two is on the generous side.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer

Evil does exist whether we like it to acknowledge or not….how do you propose we respond? Head in the sand Ron Paul style or as I am proposing very selectively and as a last resort but then with the full force and fury we can muster. YoBillyjimBob of course doesn’t get it in his myopic obsession with jew hatred. Our ship would not have been there spying/monitoring and we would not have been attacked…..see how that works. Probably not…..

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

What are you ‘hypothetically’ asking me to respond to without including a hypothesis?

I would suggest that ALL of the increasingly hostile threats we face in the Levant – which you suggest warrant a ‘Sampson’ moment to yank with all our might on the Temple pillars as Israel’s unwitting, heavy-handed enforcer… are all blowback for the wars we have conducted on Israel’s behalf to help them gobble up control over a region that is brimming with hatred for them, and us. A result we’ve begged for – along with more blowback. Keeps weapons manufacturers over-booked.

Am I calling you a gobbler-enabler on the basis of false assumptions? Do you think that the Middle east is up for auction, the price we pay ratcheted up with every bid Israel makes to gobble more territory while consuming our treasury and children?

Don’t bother answering my hypothetical response to your non-sequitur.

Let’s let Carnac answer for you.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

You can have your Hammer back now, Short Stack

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

what’sa matter? I drop your hammer on your toe?

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

I’ve never seen that before. Somebody withdrawing a downtumb to conceal a hurt toe. It makes me sympathetic and I’m not comfortable with that.

Put your downthumb back in, please. It’s comforting.

PlatoPlubius

Us vs. Them

“They” is who WE, the 99%, should be worried about…What he says resonates with me deeply. I wonder what Admin would say?

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Well, now, Plate of Pubics, that was a fine funny you served up. Really.

Well worth a watch and a hilarious portrayal of everything we think we know and don’t. His show a crib sheet from your sociology class?

“Every Conservative is a 4-wheelin, sister screwin’ redneck, and every Liberal eats kale salad out of his boyfriend’s butt crack.”

About as true as any hope that the masses of Us will rise up against Them.

It will happen exactly it is planned by Them.

We will rise up against each other while they make their getaway.

Please share the cartoons that informed your understanding of who fights whom in and Gubbamint/plebe – Us/Them meltdown revolution.

‘Them’ won’t be in Washington when the hordes with pitchforks and torches arrive. Can you guess who Us will wind up fighting?

SHS
SHS

Libertarians are just republicans with bongs,

Gator

Conservatives are just progressives driving in the slow lane….

Republicans are just democrats that don’t like abortion.

This is fun.

Trump supporters are just like Obama supporters but with a different set of blinders on.

Llpoh
Llpoh

SHS – welcome. We love morons around here.

SHS
SHS

Awesome! Point is, being libertarian is a moot point given the circumstance of mass immigration into our white and western countries. Being libertarian doesn’t help me, or my family to keep from being replaced in my own homeland. Being libertarian is focusing on your own rights rather than the rights that you have, and want to pass on to your children . So say Muh rights all ya want, but unless you band together with your white brothers, you will be saying at lest I have Muh Constitution, while living in a land that is not yours, with a jackboot on your throat.

Llpoh
Llpoh

My white brothers are red. Does that not count? I got some brown liberty loving brothers, too. How about them. I got me a couple of gun-toting Jewboy brothers that loves them some liberty. How about them? And hell, now that I think of it, I have some yellow brethren that have more guns and attitude than you can poke a stick at. How about them?

Keep the stupid coming. It suits you.

PlatoPlubius
Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Make Mine Freedom from voice-overs. It confuses the voices in my head.

I didn’t think you’d take my request to share your history library seriously.

SHS
SHS

Will do, thanks! if your feeling a stirring in the air, it is called unrest. the unrest is caused by being force fed things like diversity, and degeneracy. If you are taking the stance of being libertarian and and independent, you are promoting things like pedophilia and the rape of your homeland. The unrest is diversity.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Historically speaking, America is a 12 year-old that Israel has pimped as a submissive child-toy since age 9…

…spank ’em if you got ’em

Daniel
Daniel

classic boomer. muh diversity as long as it’s legal. it’s no wonder why the under 35 american crowd especially gen zyklon hates boomers, browns, blacks, heebs, etc.

you’ve basically set the stage for the wars to come so don’t cry when you’re ‘red’, brown, black, kike, and yellow brothers abandon you. you won’t be welcome among americans.

Just A Guy (JAG)
Just A Guy (JAG)

You have to be the same person that posted the smear about “libertarians and bongs” a few weeks back.

You, SHS, smoke a lot of weed and do heroin.

You throw out and mix up so much bullshit it is tempting to go through it point-by-point. So I will…

1.) Your name calling about bongs is ridiculous and shows you are unfamiliar with actual libertarian ideology or the non-aggression-principle (not non-defense, not aggression). Your thoughts will be ignored because your basic understandings are incorrect.

2.) “Being libertarian is a moot point”. NO it is not. Your assertion is the moot point and backed by nothing of substance. But, you smoke a lot of weed and do heroin.

3.) “Being libertarian doesn’t help me”. What does “help” mean – free weed and heroin? You must want someone to lead you around like a child, and for everyone to follow exactly who you follow, as some type of self-validation. That is psychologically-weak.

4.) “Being libertarian is focusing on your own rights rather than the rights you have and want to pass on to your children”. Another assertion with no basis in truth or understanding of what libertarian ideology is.

5.) “unless you band together with your white brothers”. This is called false-dichotomy. There are more than the two choices/outcomes you present and your assertion would be taken down easily by a freshman high school debate candidate.

6.) “living in a land that is not yours with jackboots on your throat”. This is called fear-mongering, hyperbole, or sensationalism. Many rights have been diminished – and many are returning like the abortion laws and rights of the unborn; tides turn and pendulums swing and cyclical turnings cycle. You may have reached your tipping point…go ahead, take any actions you deem fit. The wise are VERY patient and may not agree with your perceptions or predictons for the future right now – or ever. You seem unwise.

Llpoh
Llpoh

Jag – very nice.

Gator

Being a libertarian means seeing such easy solutions to the immigration problem and being intensely frustrated by the mouth breathers who scream for MUH WALL when the problem can be solved simply and effectively with economic means that will save us untold amounts of money and solve the problem of having us diluted with third world shit holers.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty

Economics is at the HEART of the problem, not the border. 100% correct. Ending the welfare state for ALL, would go a long way to clearing up the parasite problem we face from those who were born here too.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty

Being libertarian means enforcing private property rights, not stealing from everyone, and not creating the kinds of conditions that encourage millions across our border. Unless you are prepared to understand why they are coming, and are willing to do the things that will address the root cause, all the rest is pointless.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles

There is no such thing as rights. There’s only what you can acquire and maintain by force, or that which others concede to you.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)

ShitHeadShitter didn’t finish her sentence, it’s sort of like crapus interruptus. I guess she thought shitposting was something you do when you have to go to the bathroom.

SHS
SHS

clever, but where is the argument to the point made?

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)

What point, stupid? You shit mid-sentence.

hopll
hopll

Speak For Yourself!

October Sky
October Sky

I am looking forward to reading Part II also.

Doesn’t the Trump Administration have to abolish the Federal Reserve to defeat the Deep State/Double Government?

I am reading Michael Nield’s The Police State Road Map 2004. It seems to me the Police State can not function without the Federal Reserve.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer

End the Fed! Return to a hard currency and fuck the banks…..and their depositors if they are stupid enough to bank with bad banks…. Much like healthcare separating you from your money and its safe location at a safe bank has opened up lots of room for malfeasance and uncompensated risk.

PlatoPlubius

October sky et al,

Ending the FED wouldn’t fix the problem according to Damon Vrabel and his epic video series entitled “Debunking money”. The video linked below is part 4 of the series, but it addresses the END THE FED possibility.
Enjoy!

I challenge anyone to debunk his claims and explanations. I will gladly debate you.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls

“I challenge anyone to debunk his claims and explanations. I will gladly debate you.”

Come on, someone accept Plato’s challenge, I want to watch a shitfest.

Oh, and, greed does more damage than envy.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

I’ve no argument with his assertion that world’s ‘Capital Machine’ is “Imperial Banks” that control governments, and that it will move east to China from western countries

But he doesn’t bring anything new with his arguments; they aren’t ‘his’ claims. They’re everybody’s and have been for millennia

We all know the predator/pray relationship between financiers and the fleeced is a natural law, rarely derailed by laws of men.

Corzine proved that when he was allowed to steal $1.6 billion as a rounding error with no SEC action or intervention.

Pretty easy to understand that the rotting foundation of our property rights and Felony Financial Rape going unpunished is a much bigger problem than the Federal Reserve’s loaning money into existence.

Political control of government oversight and regulatory institutions for the benefit of the extremely few (0.0001%) creates both of those infirmities in our dying Republic. That narrow, corrupt, self-interest is what Tea Partiers want to throw overboard. All of it.

PlatoPlubius

Dio,

You say you understand the “capital machine ” and the power structures and subordinate entitites in this rigged global system then you make comments about us having a Republic or that nations “do things” as though they are not controlled by the same power elite who have created and seveloped this “capital machine ” over the centuries.

All the casino gulag poker chips are funneled into our government and economy via the Federal reserve system from the 18 Imperial banks as a DEBT!!!

After all we call them FRNs, Federal reserve “NOTES” , a bank note, an IOU debt instrument.

When people say the U.S. is going to “do this” or “do that” as though it works in the best interest of its people are highly delusional and shows an incomplete understanding of how the system truly works.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Thy understanding of world finance is incomplete, thy prognostications replete,

with horseshit.

It’s simple math, really, but beyond those trying to count on fingers of a fist up their ass.

I understand debt differently than you do. When is debt NOT DEBT? If a DEBT isn’t paid, what happens to the power behind it? Where do the poker chips go?

Your casino metaphor is apt. It identies you as the sucker at the table. Maybe a couple of the players at the table collude, but there hasn’t been a pit boss to call until Trump took over the casino and started pointing at the cheaters. Corzine robbed the casino without a mask and nobody said shit. What happens to Casinos that won’t allow you to cash in your chips?

Nobody is going to ‘Trump’ Adam Smith’s axiom, that we all act in our own interest (individually, and collectively, as families, communities, banks and nations). That makes ‘rigging’ impossible in the long run, and in the short run, often catastrophic for the brilliant ‘riggers’ (a memory of Long Term Capital Management’s implosion from ‘rigged’ currency bets escaped your offal recycler?)

There’s no such thing as a ‘rigged’ system when the shit hits the fan. The players are all trying to scoop each others chips before the casino burns down..

… while you sit there dreaming of your lemonade stand, waiting for a boot to stomp the shit out of your skull.

PlatoPlubius

Dung,

A bank note is a debt instrument. Geebus! To quote ADMIN, “The stupid it burns!”

All the poker chips are entered into the system as a debt to the people aka CITIZENS….This is done through deception and without our consent , considering our birth certificates were registered at birth without our natural person’s consent.

So, although, your balance sheet may have more assets than liabilities, everyone one of us, including the businesses using the FRNs are using a form of exchange with DEBT attached to it and when the “capital machine” wants to call in the chips and exchange and move them for one’s used in a different casino (country/region), you will understand those assets you thought were yours, you never truly owned.

Coming to terms with your indentured servititude is a bitch, such a BIG LIE foisted upon people that they cannot come to accept it .
Denial is a bitch and no it’s not the River in Egypt.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

No, that river runs through your head. When a bank note is in your pocket, it’s not debt, it’s an instrument of exchange. If ‘Casinos’ refuse to accept it or exchange for it, it still isn’t debt; it’s evaporated work, Confederates currency.

You talk about ‘ balance sheets’ as if they are something sacred in finance. They never sanitize fraud in a casino?

The ‘accounting’ will arrive through sovereign debt default.

Casinos will refuse to cash in each others chimps. That’s no lie, except the one it puts to your poker analogy.

Your argument is bankrupt.

PlatoPlubius

Watch the whiteboard presentation again, this time for comprehension. You’ll get there. You’re a smart cookie.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Watch the winker in my white ass; it’s flirting with you.

PlatoPlubius

Your closet gayness oozes out yet again… haha

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

I don’t need to be in a closet with you to let you suck my dick.

Hoover it, bitch.

Mistico
Mistico

Big man, too bad you didn’t have the cajones to say that to Fatal attraction.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Didn’t have to.

I was addicted to Fatal Attraction because when I returned to our bed after pissing in the middle of the night, I would crawl across her face and she would sleepily gorp my still-dripping worm like a starving carp.

I could’ve dragged her into a closet without using my hands

PlatoPlubius

I suppose not, Just need a super powered microscope to find it…
That is of course, if I were into that kind of thing.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Said the pubichairball while revving up his electron microscope and tuning in to Pornhub.

PlatoPlubius

Pornhub? Really ?? You must really like viruses hahaha both, virtually and sexually transmitted.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

The only reason anyone has to exchange spit with you

PlatoPlubius

Dio,

The bank note that it’s in my pocket is a medium of exchange UNTIL it isn’t, since it is fiat. Even though I can exchange it for things, currently, the debt is STILL attached to it. This is why our labor is taxed, this is why the U.S. debt clock shows how much of the U.S. government debt is assigned to each CITIZEN, this is why Gold confiscation occurred and will happen again, this is how civil asset forfeiture, eminent domain are “legal”, this is why CPS can take children from their parents and force its CITIZENS to take vaccines, and draft them and send them to wars!! It all goes back to our “strawman” and the UCC system in which the “capital machine” runs.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Exactly where is your “You’ll get there.” Get where? WTF are you arguing about?

“I’ve no argument with his assertion that world’s ‘Capital Machine’ is “Imperial Banks” that control governments, and that it will move east to China from western countries.”

Miss that? I don’t need to watch your hallowed whiteboard again to agree again. You need to keep arguing because…?

You think there will be rules in an economic knife fight? Economically speaking, we’re in uncharted territory. Anybody who says that they, or anybody else, knows what will happen is full of shit.

History can tell us what WON’T happen (common purpose) when an economy collapses. It won’t be “same ole – same-ole.” It tells us a broken, failed system will not be replaced with anything we recognize and many will not accept it peacefully.

There are no logical arguments against that outcome.

PlatoPlubius

Dio asks,

WTF are you arguing about?

It was a response to what you said above,

Casinos will refuse to cash in each others chimps. That’s no lie, except the one it puts to your poker analogy.

I am just defending your incessant attempts to minimalize or redirect the conversation away from my points, constantly throughout this thread. So FUCK off !

Gatekeep much?! Keep working at it!

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Try schooling Armstrong in how debts are canceled out when there’s no bid in a free-fall market – then revisit my “Casinos refusing to cash in each other’s chips” after he hands you your dumbass in an empty hat. You can’t hang with your own analogy much less present a rebuttal that requires informed opinion.

Screaming your nonsense arguments louder doesn’t make them stronger.

The insults, I’m down for that, if it’s creative. You suck at that too.

Pay attention to EC, Mistico and Mygirl…maybe you’ll improve on your harelip delivery.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls

Plato and Dung,

That was pretty epic. If I was to post a Wip Wondering that would ask the final/definitive question to your quarreling, what would it be?

I would love to post the question to TBP so we can focus on it outside of any other topic.

This is very interesting to me.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

My question is why would anyone with two neurons posit that NATO + BRICs = WWIII, when Europe invites ‘Rape my Wife and Daughter’ muzzies into their communities, as Bolton gives the DoD marching orders on Iran, our fleets all assume “False Flag Me, PLEASE!” postures within range of Iranian ‘short range’ missiles, and Israel perfumes our nostrils with Iranian Nuclear farts?

PlatosPubic region asks why his curly shorts don’t win any arguments and whether our faggotry should be confined to a closet.

PlatoPlubius

Iran is a strategic ally of the main BRICS partners ….the only reason Iran isn’t an open member of the BRICS is because of all the U.N. and U.S. sanctions preventing open legitimate trade.

A 5 year old could see the connections.

AS far as your comment about Europe goes, many of the average,
Common folk in European nations are starting to realize how stupid the European Union idea really is….this is evident by many populist leaders being elected, the yellow vest movement, Greece, Italy and on and on.

Perhaps Iran or Venezuela, another close BRICS trading partner and has military backing of Russia will be the “declared” moment by future historians that marked the beginning of such a series of “unfortunate ” events ….lemony snicket-style

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls

Dung, wtf? That’s not a question, that’s an attack.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

“the U.N. and U.S. sanctions preventing open legitimate trade.” is not an answer to your challenge or my question, which hairball refuses to answer.

The only thing we are arguing about is whether WWIII starts between NATO and BRICS … or Us and the Levant, as Israel’s conscripted mercenaries.

You defending Plato consistent refusal to my repeated challenge because it doesn’t make sense, or attacking my attacks on his refusal to answer because my questions can’t be answered logically?

It makes no difference to me. If either one of you had a mind to make up with respect to what you really want, I’d give it to you.

Neither of you have an interest in the answers to the question we’d all like to know…

…”Who launches the first nuke in WWIII; where and why?”

I’ve given my answer, with historical underpinnings that make sense.

Plato’s pubes offers burnt hair. Refusal to predict a 50/50 outcome, NATO or BRICs starting WWIII. Crickets is all we get. On his principal thesis for WWIII. No prediction that relies on his Halford Mackinder hack of Eurasian geopolitical strategy?

No, Plato hides his face in his glorious pubics with your support.

You want to jack me around for pointing out that Plato hid his face when Thrasymachus presented a plucked chicken to Plato and said, “Behold! I’ve brought you a man.”

Until you understand what Thrasymachus said what he did to ridicule Plato, best you choke your own chicken. You can’t get your arms around Thrasymachus’.

BRICs or NATO; NATO or BRICs; who fires the first nuke?

Stupid question I know, because Israel will fire the 1st nuke, a nuke that we gave them.

But let’s not talk about that. It’ll start with NATO + BRICs = WWIII.

Explain it, rationally, or fuck off.

PlatoPlubius

I ask the question, why does WWIII require the launching of nukes? Some might argue WWIII started when the American military invaded Afghanistan….what your idea of WWIII doesn’t necessarily fit in with what I expect….there is a possibility of a nuke going off, but I don’t think it will be a Dr. Strangelove type scenario… all that I am saying is that the alliances, similar to what transpired in WWI, will divide up countries allied or considered enemies….

Your consistent strawman argument to manipulate and muddy the waters is commendable….i hope you get a raise.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

In a WWIII scenario, everyone with nuclear weapons knows that everyone else with nuclear weapons will launch theirs immediately so theirs aren’t incinerated in their silos. That’s a known- known, and unavoidable if the WWIII switch is thrown. Only a fool thinks otherwise.

Russia has been warning us to not to put medium range nuclear missile on their border for that reason. We foolishly persist in signaling that is our intent. The only thing that stopped WWIII over Russian missiles in Cuba was a Russian Submarine Commander refusing orders to launch his nuclear torpedoes into our fleet.

You have good argument to make about WWIII starting in Europe, but you cannot make it without contradicting yourself.

WWIII, by definition, involves an exchange of Nuclear weapons. That’s how the entire world gets involved. A conventional war between major powers would immediately become a nuclear war. It won’t, by any measure at all, be considered a conventional war. No tanks and grunts in trenches. No ‘invasions”; no Normandy beaches will be stormed.

And it won’t matter one whit which countries betray each other. Let me make your argument for you.

The only way that WWIII starts in the European theater is as a consequence of a ‘false flag’ by the US and Israel to engage Russia in a European war so Russia won’t be able to help in the Middle East as we attack Iran and Syria with Israel. That makes you right on all counts because we would be betraying our NATO allies by doing so.

“Some might argue WWIII started when the American military invaded Afghanistan…”

That’s as silly as saying Russia started started WWIII when they invaded Afghanistan 1st, before us, and we funded and equipped Osama and Al Qaeda to begin the endless war on terror – a truly global war, but not WWIII. Russia made us start a war of terror on us, and everybody else. Right.

WWIII will have an unmistakable, blinding start, literally, if you look at the explosions.

PlatoPlubius

Donkey,

Thank you, it was entertaining for me as well.

Possible questions…

What is the significance of the Uniformed Commercial Code with respect to national sovereignty and it’s relationship with the debt-based central banking system? Which wields more power and influence, a nation state with a 1.2 trillion dollar budget or these guys:

JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America and Citibank account for some 90% of $203 trillion in derivative holdings out of all 1,357 insured U.S. commercial banks according to a report by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) which oversees banks.

Just Four Banks Account For 90% of $200 Trillion in Derivatives Says OCC Report

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Ho, fucking hum.

Th bankers did it. Tell us something everybody doesn’t know.

Everything you cite depends on the ‘rule of law’ for actuation. There is no ‘Rule of Law’ except Nature’s Law, the Law of Tooth and Fang.

Israel is a caged tiger thinking everyone exists to poke extermination sticks through their bars. Europe is a handcuffed cuckold begging to have his family used by invaders.

Who fires the first nuke in WWIII, NATO, BRICs, or Israel?

You cannot offer a prediction with plausible factors I can bet on in Las Vegas? Then spend your time wisely by choking Thrasymachus’ chicken when you’re done choking yours.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

This is no longer worth my time. I have a lot of energy to give where I think it is needed. I’ve reached the point where I am beating off to illustrate the idiotic masturbation of those who never stop wanking.

Thanks for the circle jerk.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

PP; DB; MH… I’m not butthurt or anything.

I’ve actually enjoyed our mutual striptease.

You give me reason to live.

But leave your hats on.

an keepon groovin’ your fine asses for me!

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Can we get a room, please?

TC
TC

I agree with 99.9% of what he said; however, he sets up a strawman for ending the fed. “Ending the fed” means more than just eliminating the little box he’s drawn, as the little box is just the mask or interface for the whole. Yes, the global capital machine has all the power, but that’s only because the US government voluntarily turned over that power to them. The banking cartel can be broken – we know that’s the case because it’s been done before, even multiple times.

PlatoPlubius

TC,

It has been done in the past like when Andrew Jackson refused to recharter the Bank of the United States; however, the world was not so interconnected, intentionally as a control lever. The house of cards has so much stacked up upon it that unplugging the funnel aka the FED will actually collapse it in on itself. VRABEL goes into this later on in his next part of the video series. He suggests that this might even be part of the power elites end game plan.

In latter videos he also mentions that a NEW funnel a la the FED could easily be inserted if it was ever cut off. Just as is the case with the 1st and 2nd banks of the United States and the FED.

TC
TC

Not all that long ago there was a little nation barely the size of Texas that threw off the yoke of the international bankers. They say it was an economic miracle, and it was. It can be done.

PlatoPlubius

TC,

Iceland has a very tiny population in relation to Texas, let alone the United States; not to mention a less fractured and more homogenized heritage and culture. Hard to use them as a case study; but yes it can be done…for how long ? Who knows, nothing lasts forever

TC
TC

Iceland is a good example, as at least they jailed some bankers after the 2008 debacle. That said, I wasn’t talking about Iceland.

PlatoPlubius

Do tell..

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr

When TPTB give US a Reset, We The People should welcome it and make certain it cuts them to the bone.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer

Errr…..won’t be a true reset if the same people are in charge..we plebes need to force a true reset and hammer a stake through the vampiric heart of the Deep State!

BL
BL

Lead the way Martel….How? If your answer includes Trump, don’t bother.

PlatoPlubius

No, but Q said, Q will, no Trump will save us.

Anonymous
Anonymous

The left libs make up about 5% of the population….We “Conservatives” they like to call “Deplorables” have Had it with democrats leftist Socialist anti American agenda… When the Democrats partnered with the Sworn Enemies of America…and openly declared War on us and the Rule of Law,and the Constitution… You all seem to have forgotten…Us Legal Gun owners have over 200 million Guns,and over 12 Trillion rounds of ammo… Most of which have Served in Combat and still are Combat ready….Most, if not All current Military Men/Women, Most, if not All National Guard, Most if not All Coast Guard, Most if not All Policemen/women… All of which Swore an Oath to Protect the Country and Constitution… From Threats Foreign AND Domestic….Your Fake news, Fake Polls,”Hollywood Stars” Fake Media….Couldn’t even come up with 10% of this population in Real Numbers….These leftist Vile Corrupt greedy soulless Creatures have but One Choice… to gather themselves Quietly, Peacefully retire to Wherever to their own ends…The Alternative is a War that will Eradicate this Filth from the Planet and be Remembered for a Thousand Years….

PlatoPlubius

Anon,

Ahhh shit…here we go again with the false left/right paradigm delusion…

Generalize then demonize….ra RA ra!

Red Team go! Blue team, no!

Dems/libs bad…..Repubs/Conservs good…

Both political parties are equally responsible for the shitshow we are living through….

Meh!

Ghost

Get back here.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

You spark our fire that ignites the explosion that obliterates the HNIC’s!

We will rise up and revolt behind you!

When you demonstrate your outrage by hammering a pencil into your eye.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

downthumbs be brave plebes taking Martel’s Yammer Pledge to march on Washington?

Carrying signs that read “I’m not going to take it up the ass anymore?

Just helpin’ ya out, Yammer. Recruiting.

Not Sure

The only reset we will be given (except for natural disaster), will be the one where TPTB already have gained total control and all we will be able to do is submit or die.
The only thing they give us is the illusion of a reset that’s coming, to keep us occupied until they are ready to initiate the real deal; by then we will only be compliant lemmings.

TC
TC

Sure looks to me like Trump is just another political con man who told us exactly what we wanted to hear (likely based on Bannon’s understanding of the Fourth Turning.) Will be interesting to see Admin’s scorecard, as I’d love to be wrong on this one.

BTW, as a datapoint, our net tax rate went down less than a fraction of a percent from 2017 to 2018. Better than a kick in the balls, but it didn’t move the needle in our finances.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow

Mine went from 28% to 24% and we got a refund after ten or more years of having to pay … Chip

gatsby1219
gatsby1219

Admin sounds a little butt hurt to me…

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)

Too bad your cornhole welcomes every affront, gats2by gay,

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer

You’re riffing tonight. Very funny stuff.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)

Oh, shit, pissed off a couple of cornholers.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

How do you sound when wiping with your rasp file after farting here?

Uncola

Yeah. That was great, Jim. Like an island in the storm.

On many levels have Obama and Trump served as latter-day threshing machines; by means of amplified projections on screens, and in ways that seem almost too clean.

But is it real or Memorex?

It could be either or both; and all honest people can do is to call the plays as they see ’em.

So thanks for that. Looking forward to part two.

Ben Dare
Ben Dare

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Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls

“Right and wrong are meaningless in their unquenchable thirst for more.”

Greed is more destructive than Envy.

Llpoh
Llpoh

Hardly. Greed often pulls along all boats just like a tide. Envy sinks them all. That is why capitalism works so well, and socialism does not.

I run a business because I want profit. I want all the damn profit I can get my hands on. That is I guess greed. But there is great upside – I create good paying jobs, I build things, I pay taxes, the economy grows, etc.

Then some prick comes along and says “that is not fair! He is making ten times more than me! Lets take it from him and give it to me!” So the business flounders, employees lose jobs, tax take drops, the economy stops growing.

I know which scenario always works best for the vast majority of people. And it is never envy.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls

LL,

It’s greed at the top, i.e. banks, politicians. Talk about getting something for nothing…jeesh. it’s the greed of power that causes untold suffering. But even look at wars. Finish this sentence…

All wars are _____ _____.

Why?

Pequiste
Pequiste

“Anxiously awaiting for Admin to tell us how Trump got owned and sold us out.”
– Steve

I do not want to give away the follow-up article so in deference to Admin I shan’t.

I will, however, mention two (c) & (TM) phrases that always intrigue:

1. The Evil Fuckers. (Careful naming “them” as disappearing in these cases is not an alien abduction.)
2. The Zapruder Briefing. (When one passes up an “offer you can’t refuse.”)

Miles Long
Miles Long

Another well written thoughtful piece. Thanks. As we move forward in time, I cant help but wonder how many of us will see the other side of this 4th turning?

Absolute us/them, left/right, right/wrong, black/white… we forget there are over 400 shades of gray. I prefer mine on the cool side with some blue added.

This guy gets it too…

PlatoPlubius

Admin said Trump forced “NATO members to pay their fair share, and renegotiating NAFTA were all needed.”

Not sure I agree with that. He took credit for it with his hardline talk about withdrawing from NATO during his campaign, but he already knew that other NATO members had already agreed to increase their NATO military spending, which would also give a big boost to the military industrial complex since many of those countries would be purchasing new hardware from American weapons manufacturing companies…

The globalist elites played the TRUMP faux nationalist card over Hitlery so they could have a smokescreen to implement austerity and “bring into line ” specific markets and currencies… the Race to the Bottom continues regardless of the figurehead… the 5G IOT surveillance/compliance control grid moves forward unabated!

When the next false flag occurs, to justify to the American population the utilization of the American military, yet again, for globalist shenanigans and corporate resource extraction along with the rebuild contracts, Trump will play the nationalist patriotic outrage that Dubya bumbled through with an arrogant bluster unrivaled in history.

Bringing these things up will earn me the label “Never Trumper” by the juice drinking, cultic personality-following lemmings, dancing to the tune of the pied-piper the Trumpster, and I embrace it like I embrace rational thought, discourse and common sense. I just wish the “Always Trumpsters” could break free from their hubristic indoctrinated stupors…

Anyways,

Great read this rainy Sunday afternoon Admin.

Looking forward to the 2nd part

BL
BL

+1000 Plato, excellent comment.

PlatoPlubius

BL,

I knew you, maybe BB and Fleabags would enjoy it!

Haha,

Thanks

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow

I enjoyed it as well… Chip

Llpoh
Llpoh

Plato – here is the thing. When you are in charge, and something good happens, you get the credit. And the blame if it goes the other way. That is how it works.

doug
doug

Good article. I agree…

Walter Johnson
Walter Johnson

If you are a capital L libertarian you are as deluded and ultimately evil as any capital S socialist or capital C communist. All three errors depend upon the infallible goodness of every man at all times. This can never be. The result of any of these systems is always despotism of one kind or another. You can vote your way in, you’ll have to shoot your way out.

JuJubes And Gummibears
JuJubes And Gummibears

What do you base this assertion on? Who are the main/known libertarians that are defined as “capital L libertarians”by you? Was Rothbard a “capital L Libertarian”? Where does his work, “Man, Economy, and State” fall – is it the work of a “capital L Libertarian”? Why? Which thougts in the book place it as “capital L libertarianism?

When did this term, “Capital L libertarian” come into existence? Who are the libertarians that refer to themselves this way?

Not Sure

Just in time article. I appreciate the balance of judging Trump, but not devolving into a Trump love fest. It seems the careful thinkers vs. the TDS’ers or the MAGA trust the planners are shrinking in numbers. It also seems the careful thinkers are the last line of sensibility before the MAGA/TDS’ers go at each other. Watching the fuse burn down on the powder keg is not fun and will result in lots of pain for us all, but the careful thinkers will end up being swept up in the Tsunami and there’s not much that can be done about it.

It’s like watching the Preakness, with Economy Crashing in the running with WWIII coming up close behind and Black Swan running a distant third. But wait, Natural Disaster is making his move past Government Crashing and as we enter the home stretch, it’s really too close to call.

Sit back and sip on your mint juleps and just keep your head down when the bullets start flying. Mr. Quinn, thanks for your excellent article, your next article will be anxiously awaited for, unless one of the horses crosses the finish line and we will have more immediate concerns to be focused on.

Mary Christine

“But wait, Natural Disaster is making his move past Government Crashing and as we enter the home stretch, it’s really too close to call.”

Flood of ’93 all over again. If it keeps on like it is now, anyway. 24 straight hours of rain going on right now. Or maybe the Oroville Dam breaks or even better, both happen. What the hell, how about another terrible hurricane, make it a threefer.

grace country pastor

Excellent quote.

“It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime.”– Thomas Paine

Jeremiah 17:9 KJB… “The heart is deceitful above all things , and desperately wicked: who can know it?” – God

That would be all of us. Not us versus them. Us and them. The vast majority of people in the world are excruciatingly deceived about some remarkably fundamental things. Things that, should they begin to be realized, some very positive things might occur.

Ephesians 6:12 KJB… “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”

This is literal truth. Satan is incredibly powerful. There is a single weapon on earth that can and will bring him down. The us versus them is man versus “beast” not man versus man though that’s what the beasts inspire. Deception is their weapon. To paraphrase the first words out of satans mouth… “did God really say that?”

Ephesians 6:17 KJB… “And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:”

Hebrews 4:12 KJB… “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”

Men need to wield it very carefully and very respectfully. At some point in the future it will be wielded by the One who inspired and preserved it. Perfectly.

Revelation 19:15 KJB… “And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.”

Good idea to become as familiar as possible with that sword before this happens.

grace and peace…

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls

Grace Pastor,

You take a bit of flak on TBP. Personally, I’m glad you’re here. Nothing wrong with a bible lesson.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Nothing wrong with a little flack, either. Especially when God is your copilot and Jeebus is your wing man.

TBP 2.0 Control the skies

In version 1.0 Only God could respawn in Battle.
You were finished unless Jeebus bailed you out.

grace country pastor

Thanks. When the flak is most heavy, the target is very close. Folks have little clue as to the serious nature of the foe we battle. Lucifer was God’s most spectacular creature. He is my enemy, not people. Though some people are particularly offensive, they have nonetheless been lied to and are thus deceived as Eve was.

A few of the “evil f*****s” are not. They know who they serve. The upper echelons of the global elite. They are all there because satan wants them there. They do his bidding. They will pay severely. They, like Satan are powerless without followers; but people love their stuff…

Luke 4:5-6 KJB… “And the devil, taking him (Jesus the Creator Himself) up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.”

Do you see the implications of these words? Miss this stuff and miss the solution. The gospel of Christ. Not the gospel of the Kingdom… two completely different things. The Kingdom isn’t currently at hand; grace and peace is. Judgement, wrath and war (from God) the likes of which the world can’t imagine is the immediate precursor to Gods Kingdom.

Today He extends the free offer of reconciliation. Sin abounds… therefore grace must that much more abound.

Justice And Gog
Justice And Gog

Ephesians 6:12….Ahhh, Paul the Apostle (or protege some claim)….talking “conspiracies” 2000 years ago…some things never change because they are written on the souls of all and manipulated by the darkest power.

4th Turner

Hey all you Fµ¢₭€₦ Få₲₲؆$Whatever you do, DON’T WATCH This <10 min video!!!

By the way, thanks Admin for the above article– looking forward to part 2…

starfcker
starfcker

Bush 41 had something like a 90% approval rating at the end of the Gulf War, 18 months later he got 36% of the vote. He lost his way, forgot why he was elected. That could happen to Trump really easily. I’ve been on probation on another site I comment on for the last couple of months (CTH). All my comments have had to go to moderation, and sometimes don’t get posted for hours. I got publicly smacked down by the host, and had some quite unkind things said about me. What did I do to bring this on? I began some take no prisoners ranting about Trump totally folding on immigration when he signed the last budget bill. Finally last week, my time in exile ended, in my posting rights were restored. I made the conscious decision to behave myself, but that only lasted a couple of days. So yesterday I compared Trump’s performance on immigration to that of Angela Merkel. I immediately was ganged up on by some Trump lovers, saying that I was taking cheap shots or could be Ann Coulter in disguise. I made a few more probably unwise comments, and decided to check back later to see what the moderators were going to do to me since I obviously couldn’t be civilized. To my surprise, all the shots at me were deleted, and my comments were allowed to stand. That’s a Trump loving site. Two or three months ago I was on the verge of being permanently banned. What has changed? Trump has opened the border in a way George Bush or Obama could only dream of. If CTH is noticing we’re getting played, the rest of the country can’t be far behind.

TC
TC

Just a quick note – Bush 41 had 90% approval rating due to the war and glowing press at that time. The instant the war ended, the media went into full eviscerate-mode. It was the most obvious, brutal shift in reporting I’d ever witnessed. What I noticed under Clinton and Obama is that the media normally slowly shifts their reporting tack over a period of 2-3 months. Sadly, this may be driving some of Trump’s war-hawkishness since doing Israel’s bidding always gets him at least a little bit of favorable press.

BTW – I used to visit CTH regularly but stopped when it became a fully insufferable Trump fanboi site. I suspect their viewership has dropped like a rock because of it, so maybe that’s the recent admin reaction you’re seeing over there.

starfcker
starfcker

Look, I’m still in the Pro Trump column. Getting Barr in the Attorney General slot looks like it might pay big dividends. I like his trade team a lot. He makes a lot of noise, but he hasn’t started any wars. Immigration, he’s killing us.

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
Saami Jim
Saami Jim

Admin says:
“I don’t want to be Us or Them. I just want to be me. I will judge everyone by their actions and their results.”

That, sir, or rather the absolute lack of that attitude, is precisely why this country is so divided.
Another excellent article, thank you.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Administrator said “The question pondered every day on blogs, social media, news channels, and in households around the country is whether Trump is one of Us or one of Them. ”

He is neither. His own interests are his only concern.

“In Part II of this article I’ll assess Trump’s progress thus far and try to determine whether he can defeat the Deep State.”

Trump is not interested in defeating the ‘deep state.’ He is using it to change the regulatory environment to favor his favored group – the mega-corps. He is not fighting for immigration reform because he wants low income workers to flood the country. He never served in the military, but he wants to be a war president.

His over-weening psychological force is his vanity. That is what will guide the balance of his term (terms?).

The blind who WILL NOT see
The blind who WILL NOT see

Regarding income taxes I’m totally perplexed by the fact that the government thinks it’s ok for corporations to pay a significantly lower % rate than the upper individual rates.
Regarding our military spending it’s unfortunate that we spend so much but the reality is if we don’t keep ahead of or at least on par with the Russians and the Chinese with or without NATO support they will eventually walk right over us.
They don’t conform to a live and let live philosophy.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

I’ve been looking at this backwards!

Let’s see if I can turn myself around toward the real truth. The Reality.

Our Nation practically owns the world arms bazaar and has spent more money on weapons of mass invasion than any country in human history. More of its treasure than the rest of the world, combined, every year. We must maintain military world hegemony with 800 military bases in places that don’t threaten us to ensure peace.

The days of colonial conquest with land armies are over; nobody needs them except to maintain order over their own increasingly restive populations. Do people really believe that large standing armies and surface navies can protect Us from Them…

…who are intent on hop-scotching oceans to walk over us and pillage Walmarts.

Surely they embrace and applaud America’s “Live and let live” mission to rob those that kneel before Us and our ‘Responsibility to Protect’ Them if they don’t.

You think that insane weapons budgets won’t bankrupt America like it did the Soviet Union? Even blind idiots should be able to see what’s coming. Our nation nurtures spiritually and the intellectually bankrupt morans who believe that ‘peace’ is impossible without the capability to blind everybody in an ‘eye for an eye’ world.

Our military isn’t an enormously profitable con by our most evil power brokers who’ve never held a gun? How does that work out for us in the long run that’s getting shorter every day?

Got eyes?

The blind who WILL NOT see
The blind who WILL NOT see

Not saying I like it or agree with it. Of course not.
Only saying it’s a catch 22. Damned if you don’t and damned if you do. No winners.
Keep up with your enemies and go bankrupt or significantly cut arms research and budgets and eventually get overrun.
Same with AI, cyber warfare and genetic modification.
Pick your poison.
No rose colored glasses here just reality.
“Can’t we all just get along”?
Good luck with that one.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Sure we can get all along. As long as everybody has more/better weapons than their neighbors.

Germany didn’t need to compete in an arms race to prevent being overrun by raping, robbing muzzies, they had NATO to protect them.

Please, somebody here explain to me why it’s different for our ‘Exceptional Empire’.

Surely somebody can eliminate everyone’s doubt that our ‘Empire’ won’t crumble onto its rotten, corrupt foundations while preparing for moar war? History has to be lying; we won’t be overrun from within while arming up for boogymen.

It’s THAT ignorance that Eisenhower cautioned us all about, warning a nation of morans who want to be snookered into fighting banker wars.

America has turned into its own enemy, following Israel’s path to self-destruction on a blueprint designed by Gulag Generals.

But don’t get me wrong. My beef is with Zionists, not Jews. Jews are generally decent, respectful, honorable people until they get their hands on your money.

PlatoPlubius

@ Dio

Something you and I can both agree on, Finally!

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

I’m delighted that we cleared up the Jew/Zionist misunderstanding.

yahsure
yahsure

I got back more this year than before. So the tax break thing worked for me. I don’t like the debt being pushed up more though. The Jew-hate festival on this site is ridiculous. It serves no useful purpose, even if it’s true. The name calling makes a person wonder about the person writing such crap.

Mistico
Mistico

“The Jew-hate festival on this site is ridiculous. It serves no useful purpose, even if it’s true.”

It’s not true. What is true is that greedy people know how to make law-breaking pay. They make laws for others to follow, they make laws to curb the competition, they make laws with obscure backdoors, they put walls around you, your property and your mind. Stop calling them Jews, Christians, legislators, educators, etc. and call them what they are; crooks.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

O.K. Jews are the biggest crooks. They’re only people Jeebus enjoyed whipping. The Bible says it’s the only time he worked up a sweat until he went into the cross-hauling business.

I get that right, GCP?

Mistico
Mistico

Are you a crook, DDung?

PlatoPlubius

Crook or crock of Dung?

Mistico
Mistico

Once you start pointing at a bigger drunk, liar or crook, chances are you are one also.

PlatoPlubius

We’re all something else to someone else…name calling is soo kindergarten! But, on this site, I’ll play to the lowest common denominator if I must.

Mistico
Mistico

I mean DDung is pointing to others.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

said the OCD namecaller, establishing lower denominators for 7 parsecs of the Universe..

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

I don’t have enough fingers to point at all of them

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Yes

Mary Christine

I’m not GCP, but it was actually the Pharisees that Jesus was angry with. Not the regoolah Jews (as BL would say). The elites, there’s that word again. The Pharisees are still at it and trying to gain their former power, and having some success.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Hey, Mary Christine,

Oh, how I love slicing and dicing history.

I like it even better that you are “Kilroy’ing over our conversation.

Pleas give me some bread crumbs to follow so I can craft a better explanation of how it was the Pharisees that made Jesus sweat while delivering angry punishment to moneychangers in God’s Temple. Pharisees were Goldman Sachs shareholders?

Or was that just propaganda to excite a plebeian’s common sense desire to torture bankers?

GCP, please help us here; I really want to know!

Mary Christine

Oh, sorry, was I supposed to tap you on the shoulder and say “excuse me, Dio, may I join this conversation? Manners, we all need some.

The text does not say Jesus enjoyed cleansing the temple. Who do you think it was that allowed that nonsense in the first place?

Do you ever sleep?

Ghost

Hey… I wanted to make sure you know that if you find a bed of earthworms under a pile of leaves or lumber, be sure to look for the little copperheads. They get in there and can kill a kid who doesn’t realize they are not just another worm.

Now that I’ve got little kiddos coming here to paint rocks for me, they need to know.

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This one’s squooshed, but you can see it’s little head was lifted to bite. And they do have poison, even this small.

Mary Christine

I have heard they are just as poisonous as an adult snake because they latch on and let go all the venom they have. I won’t be digging into a pile of leaves because we have very few trees. Most are at the back of the property and I avoid that area. I saw one on our road out front last year, a baby about 10 inches. Stepped away quickly.

Ghost

This one was not much larger than the rest of the nightcrawlers in the pile… But, it let me know right away it was there.

Is why I carry Thumper.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

I wasn’t trying to be cheeky, Mary Christine, I was glad to be ‘corrected’ and welcomed your contribution.

I was surprised that you jumped into the ring between me’n PP while Mistico worked both corners – and it struck me as a funny ‘Kilroy’ moment. I’ve no expectation of good manners here, but I appreciate yours.

My question was being lazy. I could’ve and did find the answer for myself, because I try to be accurate when recounting history. It’s why I asked.

I was right; you were righter.

The Pharisees and Sadducees were both Jewish (like Sunni & Shia are both Muslim), lower and upper class, respectively.

Participating in the lower-class mingling of merchants was beneath the station of Sadducees Jews, so it was the Pharisees Jews that Jesus went after with a whip, chasing them out of the temple.

He chased out the Jewish cattle and Jewish goats too and the Jewish chickens, too.

Mary Christine

That’s the problem with the internet, you can’t see my grin.

Do they Kosher the animals before or after they slaughter them? Does that make them Jewish?

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Dang. When does a little e-search turn into a bigger question?

Food is either born Kosher, or it’s not. I learned that such discrimination in dietary selections means there’s nothing anyone can do to make a catfish Kosher. It’s in a non-Kosher menu. Great, it’s a cracker staple.

Hush puppies probably aren’t Kosher either.

The only defining characteristic of ‘Kosher’ that I found to be ‘actionable’ was “Kosher species of meat and fowl must be ritually slaughtered in a prescribed manner to be kosher.”

I agree wholeheartedly with ‘compassionate’ killing of animals raised for food. Being terrified in their last moments floods an animal with stress hormones, which remain in the meat.

mark branham
mark branham

I’ll forever thank President Trump for this: He’s forced the dems to reveal themselves as the lying leftist/commie/pigs they’ve always been. At the same time one can clearly see the influence of the Deep State revealed in the actions of the main stream media and RINO repubs… lots of money has changed hands in the last 3 years.

In any other time the dems(and RINO’s) would be hoisted on the cross of treason. Let’s hope there’s still some justice in D.C.

TJF
TJF

Sometimes, the comments to an article are not the comments I imagined after reading the article. This is one of those times.

Looking forward to part 2.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Fanboys die slow. Trust is faith with brains, or contemplation at the least. I trust no one, so I guess it doesn’t matter.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

You just earned my undying trust.

BB
BB

Say what you will but when this debt money system collapses it will be Jewish Freemasons that pull the switch. Do your own research . See who owns the world banking houses Then do the research and find out who owns the media not only in this country but Europe. They hate white people. They hate all gentiles including Big Injun Chief.
I have just about given up. No body seems to care that we are heading for destruction. It’s like the whole country is under a spell of witchcraft. When you read what these ” leaders ” have planned for us it’s genocide. They don’t hide it anymore. I guess when people are being put on trains going to ” camps ” they’ll wake up. Fuck it I’m done .

Ghost

FWIW, BB… you are welcome to let me know if you travel near that Gateway Arch or the Elephant Rocks any time in the near future… I indeed have a bigass can of non-GMO LDS beans of unspecified color and a bigass can of non-GMO rice, aged ten years with at least another twenty years to go. More, if you keep them from overheating.

I will let you have every bit of the canned LDS flour too. I make my own now and won’t go back to Bleached White Flour, but it does make decent tortillas to wrap up the beans and rice.

I have a little book for you too, if you want it. I can mail that to you very cheaply. The USPS still has media mail and a book can go just about anywhere in the Continental US for a couple of bucks or less.

[[Canada is a bit more, Nova Scotia boy, but yours are on the way. AND, I had to fill out a customs form. Even though I showed Tim the Mailman Tanner all three books before I sealed the envelope. Geesh.]

Mistico
Mistico

Lillian Geesh?

Mistico
Mistico

Never mind the silence of the lambs. This is not a fanboy or rah-rah article. Therefore, their silence will be deafening. Moses didn’t cross the desert in a day either.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Moses was interrupted by a conference call on Mount Sinai.

“Calling GCP…… ”

“Moses, get Dung on the line too, we can’t have this look like a response to the nascent Image-worshiping cult you have going on below in your pack of illegal emigrants.”

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
RiNS
Ghost

Look at my comment to BB, who has been called the TBP village idiot but is still smarter than most turtles.

The mailman cometh.

Mistico
Mistico

My brainiac boss warned that we should do something so that the whatever wouldn’t cometh. Moron. It’s an adopted practice derived from the King’s lisp. Pretty soon everybody was lisping. Faggots.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

All Spaniards lisp, not just the faggots. Mexican faggots don’t dare lisp.

My North Seattle Community College Spanish teacher was a piano playing faggot with a winter gig in Cuernavaca. Even he didn’t lisp, as a carefully cultivated, life-saving departure from Seattle’s Gay Speech Standards.

I know things.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)

No, I know things, you blow things.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

I just blew you a butt bubble.

TC
TC

Hot take from Rick Wiles at TruNews. Gets spicy around 16:50 if you don’t want to sit through it all.

https://youtu.be/7oNcucBkQEg

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung

Thanks for that, TC.

It portrays the ‘Deep State’ as King, Trump as Robin Hoodtexter, and Bolton as the Sherriff of Nottingham.

The Sherriff’s real mission is to distract everyone from noticing the King can’t control Mr. Hoodtexter, by telling everyone to ‘be prepared’ for Iran.

Sherriff’s dying scene cues next!

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable

GREAT words, Admin and pretty much ground zero with my thoughts and feelings. If Trump weren’t running, I’d vote for Tulsi. Thanks!

joah
joah

Looking back in history, it had happend various times before: cult of personality. Its the same thing today and it doesn’t matter which (political) person or country you’re looking at. The outcome of such believed ‘deus ex machina’ always ends up in catastrophy.

regards from Germany

jay
jay

hahahahahah how many time are you going to write the same article? You need some more quotes from the fags at Green Day

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Lt. Greyman, NVA
Lt. Greyman, NVA

Libertarian-ism (as Rothbard writes) is not a moral system and it inevitably leads to the Pedophile Water Park, where children, who have limited Agency, are exploited for their “Bloom of Youth” by their parents (who have full Agency) under carefully drawn contracts.

Love of Nation, a deep and sincere love of ones own people and a desire to see them rise is the way, better than any “-ism”. Perhaps Christ is Right when he says a monarchy awaits us. I hope so, because if it is a Democracy of angels and demons with God as President and Satan as Vice-President, then I want off.

KaD
Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)

Them fuckers

suzy skye
suzy skye

if you are going to be a writer, you should learn to discern the difference between the words palatable and palpable.

Ghost

Dunno who…Suzy got you!

Ghost

This worth review!

fantum2
fantum2

Trump never had control of the Congress. RINOs had control. The number of new jobs is a direct result of tax cuts to corps. Don’t say the middle class didn’t benefit much. Taking away the state tax deduction was great. You sound like a dumb dem.