Guest Post by John Wilder
“Yeah. There were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.” – Anchorman
With apologies to Gary Larson, in my defense there are only so many John Brown jokes out there.
Way back in 1998, I ended up with one of the neatest jobs that I had – assessing risks to a major corporation. The Internet was new at work, and I was being paid to research potential disasters. It was so interesting and so much fun I felt guilty. In researching disasters and risk, I came across Y2K. For those that don’t remember, there was a concern that, as a result of programmers only using two digits to store year information in computers, that many computers and computer programs would cease to function when the calendar flipped over to 00.
There were multiple websites and personalities that were writing about Y2K, and one that I went to from time to time was Cory Hamasaki’s Y2K Weather Report. Hamasaki was a programmer (he has since passed away) and he had an inside perspective of the ongoing work that was required to keep the systems working. As a result of his insider knowledge he bought an AR, a lot of food, and spent New Year’s Eve at his remote cabin.
Obviously, the systems kept working.
Not my original. And I’m sorry.
We live, however, in spicy times, with the potential for them becoming even spicier (I got the Spicy Time meme from Western Rifle Shooters (LINK), which really should be on your daily reading list). I’ve written several articles about the potential for Civil War, and studied and thought quite a bit about it. As such, this is the inaugural edition of John Wilder’s Civil War II Weather Report. I anticipate putting it out monthly. This first issue will probably be a bit longer than later issues, since I’m putting the framework together and explaining the background.
I’m attempting to put together a framework that measures where we are on the continuum between peace and war. I’ll even try to develop some sort of measures that show if the level of danger is increasing or decreasing. Civil wars don’t happen all at once, and like a strong storm, they require the atmosphere to be right. A weather report is probably a good metaphor.
If you haven’t seen it, the guy with the trident was the weatherman in Anchorman. And when he has a trident? People die.
So, to review the future, let’s start by looking at Civil War I so we understand what happened, and what the potential differences are.
Civil War I was:
- Based on philosophical differences – the views of the people, North and South were pretty similar, except that the Northerners were descended from Puritans who sailed on the Mayflower, and the Southerners were descended from the Norman conquerors that took England in 1066 but got booted out after having lost a war in England. Although the North and South were the same people, more or less, with the same heritage, there were enough differences to lead to a war. And it was a doozy.
Civil War II is different because:
- Certainly we are not the same people today compared to when we generally unified ethnically. Civil War II will likely be fought on the basis of conflicting culture, identity and ideology.
Civil War I was:
- Fought by armies, mostly, with identified geographical centers.
Civil War II is different because:
- At the early stages, at least, Civil War II won’t be fought by armies, and there won’t be defined geographical concentrations. Armies are better at killing people and breaking stuff, but irregulars are way better at atrocity. Expect the initial stages of hot war to be filled with some pretty rough stuff.
Civil War I was:
- Characterized by a general adherence to the rules of war, though there were some war crimes on either side.
Civil War II is different because:
- There has been a tendency of civil wars in this century to have increasing levels of atrocity during the war. This will continue.
Civil War I was:
- Fought with the intent of reunification (by the North), and separation (by the South). The basic desire of the North was to reunify the country, admittedly under more comprehensive Federal control. Reconstruction sucked, but the goal was a single country. That’s why all the Confederate statues were tolerated, and even encouraged.
Civil War II is different because:
- I expect whoever wins to pursue a policy of revenge at the end, especially if it’s the Communists. This is founded based on every single communist revolution ever. The end of Civil War I occurred in a growing young country with the opportunity to move West. Now? Whoever wins will cleanse whatever areas they take.
Civil War I was:
- Fought by organized, elected governments.
Civil War II is different because:
- I’m thinking that one side might be a Caesar-type leading a partial military coalition versus Leftist irregulars, but I might be wrong on this one.
I decided to see what other studies had been done about more recent civil wars, and found that James Fearon and David Laitin (from Stanford) did a study in 2003 on civil wars during the 20th Century (LINK). Here’s what they found:
- Civil Wars had a median duration of six years
- Sub-Saharan Africa: 34 wars
- Asia: 33 wars
- North Africa and the Middle East: 17 wars
- Latin America: 15 wars
- Eastern Europe/Former Soviet Union: 13 wars
- The West: 2 wars
Why do civil wars develop? It’s my bet that political scientists are like economists – six political scientists will generate 15 incorrect theories over coffee each morning, although I, for one, have no idea why we would think we would have a more stable country if we import people who keep having civil wars all of the time. Fearon and Laitin came up with three different types of civil wars:
- Ethnic: “You other people suck.”
- Nationalist: “We want our own country, because you other people suck.”
- Insurgent: “We want to be the boss, because you suck.”
Okay, I don’t know who the originator was of this meme, but it still cracks me up.
Civil wars were non-existent in ethnically homogeneous and rich countries during the time period of Fearon and Laitin’s study. As the United States was essentially ethnically homogeneous and rich during Civil War I, you can see that, just like the Revolution, something unique was going on here. We decided to fight over principles.
Fearon and Laitin had several graphs that pointed out that increased wealth makes up for a portion of ethnic diversity – wealthier, non-homogeneous societies were less likely to go to war than poorer non-homogeneous ones. Oddly, the very poorest ($48 to $800 a year) societies were less likely to go to war than societies that made just a little more money. I guess just living was tough enough and going to war against other people who also had nothing was pointless.
One conclusion that Laitin and Fearon found was that civil war onset was no less frequent in a democracy. Discrimination is not linked to civil war. Income inequality is not linked to civil war. Grievances aren’t the cause of civil war – they’re caused by civil wars. What are risk the factors?
- New nations. I guess they haven’t developed the “don’t kill the president” tradition yet.
- People can hide in mountains. I guess.
- Higher (absolute) population numbers. I told you big cities were bad.
- Oil exporting.
- High proportion of young males.
- Exporting commodities – risk seemed to peak at about 30% of GDP coming from commodity export.
Okay, not directly on point, but my primary export is memes.
So where does the United States stand as a country today? I guess I’d throw out the thought that the first prerequisite for Civil War II is economic stress. Why? Average Joe won’t pick up an AR to go kill people in the next county if Joe has beer in the cooler and another episode of Naked and Afraid® next week. If Joe has a job and a wife and a mortgage, well, there just won’t be action. I meant war, silly. Get your mind out of the gutter. Our risk now is relatively low based on economics.
The United States is developing a higher absolute population. That puts us at risk.
With immigration, the United States is forming a higher proportion of young males. That puts us at risk.
State weakness is generally correlated with civil wars. I’m torn on this one. On one hand, we have the largest number of laws ever, along with a very large enforcement mechanism. On the other? Laws, both state and Federal are increasingly just ignored. Victor Davis Hanson describes this paradox in California (LINK).
Nearby civil wars are associated with having a civil war. Latin America is a civil war factory . . . so we’re at risk.
From the above five predictors of civil war, we have four of them. Obviously this doesn’t tell the whole story. The United States has a peaceful history, and, unlike a less established nation, the general populace is going to assume that today was good, so tomorrow will be pretty good, too. And, generally that’s a good way to predict the future: tomorrow will look like today. Building the conditions for civil wars generally take years and what was abnormal becomes normal and tolerated as time goes by.
I’m going to attempt to try to make a metric showing the rise in various societal factors that I think might lead to civil war. Some of the obvious are:
- Economic metrics – economic growth, unemployment, average wealth.
- Organized violence metrics – news of riots, other organized violence and protests.
- Political instability metrics – use of the term “impeach”, “civil war”, “electoral college.”
- Sites banned – numbers of political speakers silenced.
- Number of illegal immigrants per month. This shows greater economic stress or greater problems at their actual home.
Yeah, you just can’t add the North and the South together and end up with a Civil War. Unless you do it in binary, then you could have a Bipolar War?
I’ll then combine them into an index. If you have other items that you think can be tracked and should be tracked, let me know, and I may incorporate them, especially if they’re easy find and to incorporate, because I’m lazy.
Finally, Civil War won’t show up all at once, it may take years to get people to the idea that war is better than dealing with your weird neighbor by going into your house and watching a marathon of YouTube® videos where people turn $40 of propane and a bunch of aluminum cans into $10 worth of aluminum ingots. It’s easier than fighting, right?
Following is my take on the steps that will lead to actual civil war. I humbly call it the Wilder Countdown to Civil War II™.
- Things are going well.
- People begin to create groups.
- People begin to look for preferential treatment.
- Opposing ideology to the prevailing civic ideology is introduced and spread.
- Those who have an opposing ideology are considered evil.
- People actively avoid being near those of opposing ideology. Might move from communities or states just because of ideology.
- Common violence. Organized violence is occurring monthly.
- Opposing sides develop governing/war structures. Just in case.
- Common violence that is generally deemed by governmental authorities as justified based on ideology.
- Open War.
I bolded number six. That’s where I think we are right now. Violence is occurring, but it’s not monthly, so I don’t think we’re at step seven. Yet. And I think we can live at step nine for a long time as long as we don’t have the bottom drop out of the economy. Might there be some trigger that takes us to nine in a hurry? Sure. But I’m willing to bet that we see it take a few years, rather than a few months. My bet is no sooner than 2024, but I’ve been wrong before, way back in 1989.
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“Secretly wants to live in a post-apocalyptic society” sounds good to me! 2020 is the likely start of spicy time with election and overt violence before and afterward could easily spiral from sporadic to widespread. Eg. Antifa declares free (snowflake) zones in major coastal cities, murdering those who are not sufficiently woke. They will initially have the quiet support of the police and political establishment and then the overt support/merger with the same in the name of “public safety” or some equally 1984ish meme.
If a DEM is elected in 2020 this process kicks into high gear with draconian gun confiscation, restriction of movement, discrimination (Nuremberg style laws) against non-Woke codified into law and more critically access to food/water etc. restricted. Warsaw ghetto 21st-century style for conservative and non-foaming at the mouth commies….with the same “denial” by officialdom that anything is happening for as long as possible.
Sound far fetched? Maybe but it is clearly a non-zero probability and that in itself is terrifying.
Do you think AOC, Swalwell etc would hesitate? How about the currently nameless revolutionaries in ANITFA attacking people with bike locks (Professor Clanton)….not so many steps away from emerging as the Butcher of Portland if given the opportunity.
Martel,am thinking at the point in time you are talking about will be attempted”draconian gun confiscation, restriction of movement, discrimination”and the inevitable results of such attempts.
You just posted the basic outline for the book ” The Turner Diaries “.
Read it you will love the ending.
https://www.e-reading.club/bookreader.php/133469/The_Turner_Diaries.pdf
Roundly criticized as a racist screed…the Turner Diaries may actually prove to be more prophetic than propaganda…….Not saying it will happen but are we moving towards or away from such a cataclysm? Pretty sure we are moving towards “spicy time” but how spicy is yet to be determined though history would say that the trend is towards maximum “Ghost pepper” spicy.
I remember reading chittums book civil war II in 1997. Many predictions from that book have come to pass but no civil war II 22 years later. A civil war II would be just what those working to divide and destroy this country would actually encourage.
If the government remains intact, it would be a very one sided war. That’s for sure.
TTrain…but who really controls the beast?
The Jews of course. Any “right wing” resistance would get carpet bombed out of existence. AR-15’s can only do so much against military weapons and vehicles. Perhaps, the more competent and nationalist minded people in our military would abandon ship, but still. With an increasingly brown military, those loyal to the people who actually made this country are dwindling.
TTrain,
Strategically, at the top of the pyramid internationally I would use the label ‘Luciferians’ over Jews. Some Jews are part of it, and a big part, but there are many other players who have nothing to do with Judaism or for that matter Zionism who are with, used by and are dupes of the real enemy, ‘Luciferians’.
Some Jews are certainly part of the complex web and the Zionists are one if not the top crime organization in the world (especially after the recent victory of the Bush Crime family asking for a truce from them). I believe there is a lot of infighting going on among the many international ‘Crime Families’ for control of the long sought New World Order.
Tactically, I see the US eventually being ripped apart by Civil War 2 and economic collapse or economic collapse and then Civil War 2, broken into enclaves, and our Superpower status completely humbled allowing the Luciferians to fulfill Biblical prophecy for their short supremacy and then rude awakening.
As far as the actual fighting that will rage your individual region, and specific location (and Prep) will be the decisive factor. Yes, ARs will be vaped sometimes and sometimes ARs and what I call ‘Constitutional Congs’ who know how and have the will to kill…will win the killing contest when least suspected.
I live close to a National Guard Armory and a Sheriff Department’s in a rural area filled with mostly white good ole boys and rural raised blacks (a different breed then those in the blue bubbles) who will ‘locally’ be formadible. I intend to be one of them.
I just put a post up on another thread ‘Negrophilia’…check it out, it relates to what we are discussing. Let me know your thoughts over there or here!
Thanks for the follow up.
Keep your powder dry…and your muscle memory flexed.
the ar15 didn’t stop the Vietnamese struggle, nor did carpet bombing. they were a freedom loving hard working/fighting people. americans only give lip service to those things. they aren’t really interested.
Chittum predicted in 1997 Civil War 2 would start after the 2020 election.
He may be off a year or two…but the shrapnel from his predictions to date have been mostly acurate.
https://archive.org/details/CivilWar2/page/n1
Thanks for pointing me towards Chittum!
Oh wow did not remember the 2020 date. Been a long time since I read the book. Thanks for pointing that out . I do highly recommend the book. Chittum needs to do an updated version.
All CIVIL WAR 2 book – Chittum fans, check it out!
It is all from many years ago.
AN OPEN LETTER TO EVERYBODY WHO READ MY BOOK, CIVIL WAR TWO
By Thomas Chittum ©copyright 2008
When I wrote Civil War Two back in 1995 I had just returned from Croatia where I had fought in their civil war that resulted in the partition of the former Yugoslavia along ethnic lines. My book focused on demographic changes that I believed were driving this nation towards a similar breakup along ethnic lines.
When I wrote my book I had never even heard of the Bilderberg Group or the Pilgrims Society or the Trilateral Commission or the Council on Foreign Relations or the Council for National Policy or Skull and Bones. Then along came the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. It took me about three months of research to realize that the invasion of Afghanistan had been planned for years before 911, and that Osama bin Subcontractor was an invention of the London Banking Cartel. The U.S. government had stockpiled invasion supplies and encircled Afghanistan with military bases for years prior to 2001. Why, I wondered, had the US government decided on a land war in the heart of Asia which ran against all military logic and even common sense.
I recalled the assassination of President Kennedy. Like a lot of Americans, I soon became convinced that the Warren Commission was a massive cover-up. What I couldn’t understand was why the entire American establishment had allowed this obvious cover-up to stand unchallenged. I just couldn’t take the next mental leap and realize that the cover-up went unchallenged because the assassination was planned and carried out by the upper levels of our political establishment itself.
I wasn’t similarly deceived by the terrorist attacks of 2001. I began reading books by non-establishment historians. I think the first non-establishment book I read was the Conspirators Hierarchy by John Coleman. It’s an excellent book and a good place to start if you want to understand what people are really running Western Civilization. Today, I understand that Western Civilization is really run from London and has been for centuries.
Now allow me to go back and review my experiences after the publication of my book Civil War. The book sold about 20,000 copies and caused something of a sensation, especially in right-wing circles. I was invited to speak on TV and radio programs. I was invited to speak at meetings of political groups, most of which were right-wing extremists. I accepted every invitation to speak no matter what the political position of the group. I did a radio interview with Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership. I also accepted an invitation to be interviewed by a black guy who had a radio program in Louisiana. I told them all that my appearance on their radio program or political meeting did not constitute any endorsement of their beliefs. I told an official of the National Alliance that I would accept an invitation to address a “roomful of rabbis” if they wanted to hear me.
My book was meant to be an unemotional technical work. It was written from a military perspective and was intentionally devoid of any attempt to change anyone’s mind about political or racial beliefs. I do have my own political baggage, but I basically left it out of my book, except to briefly mention that I did not favor the partition of America, but hoped that the people of America would choose to stay united, or at least, failing that, agree to a peaceful partition.
I will now briefly outline my political beliefs. My instincts are basically libertarian. I want to emphasize that I do not believe, and never have believed, that any race is superior to another. That’s why I never joined any racially oriented right-wing group. That’s also why I also could never be a so-called liberal because of their lame attempts to disguise their equally misdirected racism with euphemisms such as “affirmative action.”
Like most people I would like everyone to agree with my views on every issue under the sun, and I am disappointed when they do not. However, I have long understood that most people arrive at their political views only because they fulfill their own emotional cravings and self-interest. The arguments they advance to justify their beliefs are nothing more than rationalizations. Worse yet, I came to realize that even people of goodwill arrive at entirely different views that preclude compromise.
This deplorable truth about human nature is one of the primary causes of the instability of multi-ethic empires no matter what their formal political structure, be it a dictatorship, a monarchy or a republic. This circumstance also accounts for the tendency, over the long haul, for the maps of nations to be drawn along lines that reflect racial, linguistic, and religious differences. Multiethnic empires like America are inherently unstable even under optimum economic circumstances.
What my book did not take into account was the nature of the New World Order. I did briefly mention the New World Order in my book and condemn it. At the time, I did not have a clear picture of the so-called New World Order. I thought it was nothing more than a frame of mind, so to speak, such as being a conservative or a liberal. I did not realize that it was an actual entity composed of identifiable organizations that acted in concert to achieve a specific way of re-ordering the entire globe. As I mentioned earlier, I had never heard of the Bilderbergers or the Pilgrims Society. I had constructed by world view solely from establishment sanctioned books. Now I know better.
To all secessionists, I have this to say. There is no point in checking out of the sinking American empire unless your new nation will be free of control by the New World Order. The only sane approach is to work to first wrest control of America from the New World Order organizations mentioned earlier. Any new nation carved out of the present American empire will be surrounded by hostile nations still under control of the New World Order, and will have no real chance of economic success or even physical survival.
To overt racists like members of the KKK or the National Alliance, I have this to say. Please just sober up and change your minds concerning race and then resign from any and all overtly racist organizations. You are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. The New World Order loves overtly racist organizations. The NWO uses them to frighten the general population into seeking their protection. You are assisting their divide and rule strategy and it doesn’t cost them a dime.
To liberals I have this to say. Stop acquiescing to racism by promoting the stealth racism of affirmative action. Get a brain and realize that you are promoting racism. You are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. The New World Order loves racist affirmative action. The NWO uses stealth racism to stampede conservatives into seeking their protection. You are assisting their divide and rule strategy and it doesn’t cost them a dime.
To everyone who read my book, I have this to say. Civil War Two will likely occur sooner than I had originally predicted in my book. America and the entire world is now teetering on the edge of total economic collapse. If this collapse does in fact occur, the New World Order will instigate a horrific civil war here to distract the population from their responsibility for this calamity by giving the population boogie men to blame in the form of ethnic and regional secessionists. This war will be so horrific that I doubt that more than 10 percent of the population will survive. Mexico and Canada will likewise sucked into this vortex of starvation, cannibalism and ethnic cleansing. The entire North American continent will be depopulated. There will be no new nations arising out of this collapse as I predicted in my book, because there will essentially be no people left to populate any new nations. The whole of North America will be a wasteland.
My next column will probably focus on specific changes that I think America must put into effect to save itself from utter disaster. I don’t think for a second that any of these changes will be made, and I will list them only to highlight the inevitability of the coming disaster. Meanwhile, I suggest you have a good a time as you can. That’s what Romans facing disaster did, and then they jumped into a warm bath and cut their wrists.
-— Thomas Chittum ©copyright 2008
SGT.SHULL’S FIELF MANUAL FOR THE PRACTICAL MODERN WARRIOR $7.00
by Thomas W. Chittum
First published edition in 2005. 155 pages.
eBook Summary: Part biting social satire, part reflection of actual combat experience, and part prediction of where America could be headed, Sgt Skull’s Field Manual for the Practical Modern Warrior is both entertainingly funny and seriously instructive at the same time.
Tom Chittum is the author of the landmark American right wing classic Civil War II: The Coming Break-Up of America. He also wrote the wry article “Day of the Jackass” for Soldier of Fortune magazine (archived with America First Books) as well as numerous articles that have been posted online. Many of his best recent articles, which have not yet been published online, now appear in Sgt Skull’s Field Manual.
One of America’s leading Zionist overlords, Dr. Henry Kissinger, once remarked that “Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy.” The plain truth is that America is headed for rough times ahead, and savvy Americans need to “un-stupid” and “de-animalize” themselves mentally as quickly as possible in order to survive. It is hard to find a better mental deprogrammer to help one “un-dumb” oneself than a free thinker such as Tom Chittum. His sharp wit and irreverent humor even makes the emotional adjustment process of coming to grips with a corrupt imperial order masquerading as traditional America far more manageable.
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/an-open-letter-to-everybody-who-read-my-book-civil-war-two.85139/
Mark,
Thank you for sharing! Scary content! But the “partitioning ” of America sounds like the plan….apparrntly DynCorp and others have a history of it, most recently in Haiti, George Webb has chronicles this and other partitions like in Lybia
Apparently it’s a business model for some .
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pzkM_nnJYo4
Wow…evil at a level that is past sickening.
Thank you, Mark.
Not many read your comment in its entirety or you’d have a ton of upthumbs. The idea of unity is central to my ‘life’ view; primarily unity with myself. It isn’t just the opposing opinions of inimical people that creates conflict, we each have plenty within ourselves. We must first unify our own system of beliefs before joining like minds. How we arrive at a world view is the same for everyone, just as you described.
“I have long understood that most people arrive at their political views only because they fulfill their own emotional cravings and self-interest. The arguments they advance to justify their beliefs are nothing more than rationalizations. Worse yet, I came to realize that even people of goodwill arrive at entirely different views that preclude compromise.”
It is what you stated above, that convinces me a ‘global government’ is not in anyone’s interest. That is a government of all by a few and I’ll never abandon the axiom, “The government that governs least, governs best.”
It is for that reason we will NOT remain a ‘united’ country of 50 states. Nobody wants to be ruled by somebody else’s political views.
I’ve no doubt about whether there is a ‘global agenda’ that includes centralized world government, because that would give those at the top global dominion. Those who crave power don’t crave it in measurable portions, they want it all. So, sure, there’ll always be powerful, influential actors on the world stage that ‘conspire’ to harness the world under one yoke, one master. But before a world can be united, the countries of the world must each have unity with the others. We don’t have it with ourselves, so how could this be?
I cannot even imagine the citizens of the United States of America actually becoming united behind the principles of individual liberty. Plenty of people in this country have already abandoned the ideals that founded it and think you should too. For your own protection.
This country will splinter into factions and be winnowed just as you predict. It’ll be a good thing. We’ll stop destroying the rest of the world and instead finish our own destruction.
We will morph into Balkanization. Large cities will continue to deteriorate under progressive rule. More rural states and counties will be the polar opposite of the cities. When conditions in the cites gets really bad – business will move out to the more conservative states. This will ‘gut’ the cites and they will become cesspools. Some states may stop sending money to Washington.
Unless people get off their asses, nothing will happen. Obese couch potatoes aren’t going to do much outside of open another bag of chips.
That reminds me – I need more chips.
2038 One six-pack of beer and a bag of chips trades for a nice tent and a woman to warm it.
In 1945, a can of condensed milk got you a young Japanese woman, all night.
Was the bucktoothed overbite a plus or minus?
“Unless people get off their asses, nothing will happen.”
Nobody has to do anything for a complex society with ‘just in time’ logistics supporting all ‘lifelines’ to deteriorate into chaos. The only thing that prevents ‘entropy’, the gradual decline into disorder, is a lot of hard work by dedicated people who understand the tides of history.
Exactly how many of those people are running this country?
Not one. Dutchman is right; it’ll be entropy that ‘morphs’ American cities into shitholes. No special effort will be required.
‘Special Interests’ run all of our governments and they never consider the problems that divide us. They inadvertently create them with ignorance and neglect.
Couch potatoes have no way to prevent it and neither do federal, state or local governments.
San Francisco, Los Angeles, Portland, Seattle – already settling into the very definition of a cess pool. And worse. Seattle, for example has a city councilman who deems it somehow “racist” to pressure wash poop off downtown sidewalks. And that was in 2017. Madness. And evil.
I would drop a few cue balls on the street shitters.
If this were to happen I would bet on the start being a Democrat elected and the policy’s they would bring.
Gun grabs or agenda 21 style elimination of private property rights would rile enough people. otherwise, everyone is fat and happy. Many are dumb enough to find socialism appealing.
When peoples’ daily life is fraught with too much chaos and an inability to maintain their fatness and happiness, then the trouble will develop because they are bored and stressed. Of course, most of the current state of unrest is due to the idleness in the flyover places whose means of livelihood was gutted by globalism and outsourcing over the last few decades. Did any of the Elites ever venture to think that it could ever be different from what it is right now?
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Legend. A real one.
One good metric may be the spread between political poll projections and reality/results. I’m thinking that gauges just how “free” people feel about saying versus what they do. Something I’ve noticed widening over the years.
I like that. I’ll see if I can come up with data. Pugh tracks political polarity . . . and it’s widening.
This guy actually has a pretty good grasp of the fundamentals. I would agree with the #6 assessment. I like the writing style.
Yeah, I remember Hamasaki’s writings. He had a lot of good stuff, but he sensationalized way too much about the ‘dire consequences’. I told many, many people just that and pointed out why. I guess if the proof is in the pudding; mine was edible and his went into the trash.
The whole Y2K was ALWAYS about computers thinking it was 1900 and not 2000. Basically just a numbers-crunch, book-keeping boondoggle. Did anyone ever really think that those controlling the money would ever allow their control to slip? I even had so-called experts try to tell me that planes would fall out of the sky, and nuke missiles would spontaneously launch. Etc., etc., etc.
Just like today – do any of you think that those in power are just going to let it slip away?
There is definitely a Hell on earth coming, but it NEVER starts, unfolds or blossoms like or when anybody – including myself – really can predict. Seasons, not timelines. It will pay to be flexible and alert. And, if feasible, separated from the huddled masses as much as possible, but NOT solitary. Either extreme will probably be a death sentence. And, finally, the most important thing to remember – you can do everything right and still end up dead. It’s a chaotic, random, jumbled-up mess of a world. For me, I put my faith in God, not man.
Eyes on the horizon? Hello… there’s been several years of just that kind of drum-beating.
“Because I see what might be a storm coming.”
No shit.
Boom!
Thank you! Yeah, I know my predictions are bad as to specifics, but if we can watch the temperature of the pot, maybe we can guess as to when (and if) it’s going to boil. We’ve moved pretty far, pretty fast.
It has been over twenty years since the war in Serbia. If you want to see the graphic face of war, Civil War, hell, any war, then look no further than the images posted. I personally will enjoy the time I have left and pray that the ‘festivities’ that so many preach of and hope to see happen never comes in my life time. Human bodies being destroyed and splattered, gaping wounds and entrails exposed over the landscape are never considered in the ‘bring it on’ mindset. Those who wish for war have no understanding of what it truly entails. I also understand that there comes a time when there is no other option and, like I said, I hope I never have to see that option. If I do then I shall get the whiskey, the shotgun and do what I must while I can.
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2012/04/20-years-since-the-bosnian-war/100278/
I was in Sarajevo before and after the ‘festivities’ and it was like two completely different planes of existence. The excesses I have seen in various place, during and afterwards, are the reason I repeatedly tell people that they really don’t want to wish for such things. Prepare for any eventuality, yes, but don’t hope for it. After the first bullet, everyone and every scenario is fair game for total horror. Too many just don’t want to accept that, but it is true.
Those who have seen and lived it never want to see or live it again. Glad you made it out, sorry you had to go thru it.
How about a scenario where Trump wins the popular vote, and all the states that have acted to subvert the electoral college by awarding all of their delegates to the winner of the popular vote will be full of a lot of unhappy communists who never imagined that their stupid rule would ever be used against them. They will march on their state captitals demanding their state laws get overturned or ignored. This could be the spark.
Yes, everyone has plenty of warning time to prepare however they can or want to.
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My main point in all this civil war stir up is until the economy tanks, there will not be violence, as both sides are quite happy maintaining their comfort zone.
As already revealed by many here, the economy sucks and is teetering on the mother of all crashes; but who holds the last straw that will break the camels back?
As chaotic as things look, TPTB who hold that straw are waiting for the moment when they are sure the tipping of the economy will fall in their favor. So in the end, we can second or third guess when the SHTF, but know this; it will only occur when we have reached the point where we become ineffectual in being able to do anything about it.
Hopeless? Maybe so, unless you consider a sudden uprising of the deplorables who recognize there will have to be an uprising before the last straw is played out, by whoever is in control of the economy, while the deplorables still have some ability to change the future to something more agreeable to their vision of less government and restoration of our freedoms.
I have no crystal ball, but there are only two outcomes and the future will be based on who acts first.
I was wondering how many more states might defy the Federal government? They seem to be able to defy them already with sanctuary cities and marijuana laws. At what point does the Federal government decide it’s had enough and bring in troops? I suppose it depends on who the president is. Some county sheriffs are saying they will not enforce red flag laws and other such gun confiscation laws. I guess I’m just sorta “wondering aloud”. I don’t really expect anyone to have an answer, just more speculation.
10th Amendment negation of Federal laws goes both ways……
If we do have a civil war it will not be the fault of the Jews and their propaganda machine now will it , Hammer. Got to protect those fucking creatures at all costs even though they hate us. Blacks are another group that hate your damn guts but that ok if you have run off to Montana. Right Hammer?
OK tough guy what are you proposing we do? Clearly, you have determined who is at fault so are you going to sit on your ass (yes you are) and kvetch like feckless goyim or are you going to take action and save your country for Christendom and White people? If so, then which Christians and which white people? Wouldn’t you just be appointing yourself dick-tator? That’s always the problem with you anti-semites ….not really any different than the commies except you are more predisposed to simply complaining ineffectually instead of actually taking action to press your own ascension to power.
Are you just a moron or just a racist bigot? I served in the military for 21 years and some of my best friends were black. I even dated black women. Your whole statement is part of what’s wrong with this country now. Hell I’m willing to bet that your either a troll or a democratic/socialists neo-nazi self hater. The problem with this country as I see it is not Trump but you democratics/socialists playing racial politics trying to divide our country to puts us in a civil war.
Dennis must be a new guy. He spells moran like he was taught in school & thinks pissed off disco god-squad BB is a commie or a troll. Wait until he sees some of the stuff the less well behaved on here post. Oy vey!
He kind of gets it, but 21 years in the military doesn’t make for a realistic assessment of the world the rest of us have to live in. Welcome to the home of shit-throwing monkeys.
Sorry pal but your time in the military is most definitely not what the real world is like. You have similar feelings about blacks that most every one of my friends who served have, that is black men in the military are for the most part, for lack of a better word, conservative. Fair enough.
Out here in Realville, blacks have turned every large urban setting into shitholes. Black on white crime is 7x the reverse with 1/6 the population. Now we have a culture that not only denies this but actively encourages racism.
Doubt me? Take a walk through most any downtown some night and get back to me. And I’m not saying through the black part of town either.
There are millions of decent blacks who want nothing more then to earn a living, raise their children and live peaceably. I know, I’ve met many of them. But that leaves 39 million niggers that would stab you while you were on fire and laugh about it on the way home. When the thin veil of restraints we have now disappears, it’s going to be a river of blood.
If you want to live where they live, knock yourself out. I choose otherwise.
Well, shit. Just come straight out and say what u mean to the point. Forget political correctness. Factual statements abound. It truly is a cultural thing and yes 39 million of that culture will create a lot of bloodshed, starting with self hating cucked whites. Like any species there are a few good and a few bad. However culture within a species can make the majority unruly or bad. When the ceil of restraint is removed even the normies can get perverted and evil. Imagine if your culture is defined by crime, pride, evil, machoism etc. then that huge crowd in the middle, with no restraints can cause rivers of blood. Much of the river filled with their own blood of course too. This is a long game and the left uses mosquito bite attempts to change culture. Lately they have been taking larger bites moving the needle is all. However in about 50 years these snowflakes today will be the beneficiaries of the monster beast they created and wont like it and wont be able to change it. They will have to slay that beast themselves when they are age 60. Doubtful much changes in my lifetime in the way of dictatorship, socialism, Armageddon, civil war etc. It will just march on towards it all for another 50 years getting so bad until action must be taken. I see a future where little girls are raped by a protected class and the girl goes to jail for “enticing behavior” instead of the rapist.( For just walking walking down the street happily skipping). Thats how bad it will and must get before fat potato chip eating conservatives put the remote down and do something.
Unlike some on this site I do not call people stupid or evil(except Hillary and progressives). However, Dennis is severely misguided in his feelings about niggers. He needs to get in touch with reality. To my dismay my two kids went into the military without prejudice. Their eyes were opened by their time i the military and now have a realistic view of uncivilized baboons.
Dennis,
I’ve no animosity against any race, but I hate niggers who frequently say “nigger”, or “nigga”, and are ready to kill if I say either; they’d consider it justifiable homicide.
If your military ape-mates smiled after calling you a nigger and you greeted them with “My nigga!”, you had true friends. Otherwise, your entire service was spent NOT defending free speech, the only type that needs defending, the right to say what everybody ‘sings’ in a popular music tune.
You like it that any white boy in High School who says ALL the words in a Grammy winning rap, which spring ‘nigga’ everywhere, invites a capping? That what you served to defend?
My first girlfriend in High School was black. I was one of two white guys on a black softball team for 15 years, and the only one who hadn’t done hard time. I grew up in an integrated military. So the fuck , what… is your point?
Before this country became a welfare state, blacks didn’t want to be called nigger by anyone, including blacks.
Today, being able to say something whitey is terrified to even whisper gives niggers the ‘cultural’ high ground. Jesse Smollett’s can generate country-wide outrage against whitey simply by doing what niggers do. Lie; cheat; whine about oppression; hold out a hand out for freebies; holdup a store; burn down their neighborhoods; gang-riot through malls and public paces . With no consequences.
That’s the nigger country code you dialed into after serving.
Hell, most people don’t grasp the 1st Amendment. You expect them to understand the nuance of rights reserved to states? Or, gasp! to the PEOPLE?
It does?
I haven’t seen it.
Lines will be drawn where they are always drawn… bridges and navigable creeks and rivers. Why do you think I watch water levels so closely. We live one half mile from a navigable river and everyone around here will guard it to death. The death of others, I imagine, mostly.
MG,
Yep, there is one bridge two miles from my rural home/small town that the interstate crosses that the local Golden Horde EBT Zombies from a midsized blue bubble 22 miles up the road will have to cross to get at us.
I can see the road block being raised and me taking a daily shift on it geared up…with 15 40 round mags.
I’m sure there would be patrol boats on the lake as well. Plenty of (armed) families, family and commercial farms to protect that dwarf my little one.
Amen, brother.
Our moat is 100+ miles of desert on all sides, except for 100+ miles of mountains and thick forest on the north. Only one city is within 200 miles, and it’s 100k pop and over 135 miles away, across the worst of the desert. The best part is that no one would ever be stupid enough to think that it would be good to head this way to loot anything. Homegrown maybe, we do have a few , but most of us know who they are and they will shape up or die in short order. To put it bluntly.
I live on an island in the middle of a fresh water lake – it’s a 1,000′ wide moat for a 1 mile by 1 mile island, with a very large farm on it. During the 2007-2008 downturn, the pillbillies from the mainland would troll at night to hit targets-of-convenience (typically docks), stealing boats, jet skis, gas cans, anything that wasn’t locked down. Next go-round won’t be so innocuous – folks here got a taste of what’s coming.
Wow JE…that was a grabber. You are correct: “Next go-round won’t be so innocuous.”
I have set up multiple camouflaged tree line railroad tie, cut tree log fighting positions on my place. Have camo tarps, and caffeine pills ready…there will be some long nights. Worst case I will be able to put hidden protected flanking fire into the mopes coming down the road or pastures who think my farm is going to be inexpensive. Have a barn with a hay loft on high ground with a reinforced slit sniper’s nest that commands the road and pastures.
Those who believe that they will have to defend their family and all that really matters best get the defensive positions ready now.
Agree. It is way past time.
Learning from the past instead of repeating it… smart plan.
The state of California is at odds with the Federal government on several issues and if you had to pick a place where you thought a Civil War between States’ rights and Federal Rights might occur, it would be at the top of the list.
Sanctuary cities, Legalized weed, stringent Environmental regulations (straight outta U.N. Agenda 21 “recommendations”) and something Trump has mentioned the EPA is at odds with, recent Tariffs on Mexico which disproportionately affects the state compared to the 49 others, High speed rail $$$, Oroville dam $$$, and most importantly; WATER RIGHTS! A fight between the northern and central Californian farmers and silicon valley, using the state and federal government as rock em sock em robots!
This has made the State of Jefferson movement grow and spread from southern Oregon and northern California to counties in the Central Valley.
http://soj51.org
As far as this guy giving “weather reports”… Why is it a weatherman can be wrong 90% of the time and still have a job?
State of Jefferson movement now co-opted into leftist pablum, probably why you like it. New California movement has many more counties signed up. I think it would be a good strategic move for Trump to declare CA in state of insurrection, impose martial law, arrest the public officials down to dog catcher and seal off the borders of the state……
You don’t know what the fuck your talking about, the new California movement was being pushed by Silicon Valley to usurp farmers water rights in northern California and redirect the momentum from the State of Jefferson movement!
Everyone with the XX I’ve ever met in person is very much conservative, after all the XX represents the failure in representative government, the double cross by politicians in California!
My bad I had them reversed….but you are still a commie
!https://nimaway.com/2018/01/28/state-of-jefferson-update-difference-between-jefferson-and-new-california/
Martel,
Plato is not a Commie. Good gosh. Come on man…now you are in Space Ball Ludicrous speed.
I am pretty sure Platypussy is a commie….he’s had a least one imperfect liberal thought and that’s enough for me! Just kidding, I enjoy the cut and thrust of TBP.
Haaaaaaaaa!
Me too!
Now, 蚂蚁乐居分类目录 over at ‘National Cheese Day’…There is a real Chicom Commie…
Nah, Pubic Plate’s no commie.
He’s a tin-foil conspiracy nut who thinks a centuries old plan is unfolding as scripted – by an enlighten coterie of arch capitalists with a global government agenda to steer us toward the Phaedo shadows that roam inside his head like a dark strobe.
Nah, just NEO feudalism….we already have it, the plan is to cultivate the perceptions and condition the younger generations as “global citizens”, a world with a central authority (out in the open) not in the shadows as it currently is…a major reduction of the population through Thomas Malthus’ fanatical “positive checks” on population control: disease, famine, and war. Us American “useless eaters” as Big Z brizinski referred to us as have outlived our usefulness and like any individual or group of people who are no longer needed by this “capital machine” are liquidated.
It’s not paranoia, it’s a fact that this conspiracy has been going on for many generations and the end goal is world government…better known as the New World Order.
We’ve had global governance for decades already with the U.S. and NATO militaries used as an enforcement mechanism for the “capital machine”….eventually after the populist wars fought over nationalism come to a bloody end, and the current generations no longer have any fight in them, the solution will be offered to unite the world once and for all under the Global Nanny Big Brother State that is currently at different stages dependent upon what region and nation you reside in.
U.C.C. admiralty law of the high seas runs this planet!
Today, anything repeated sufficiently becomes a fact.
Same as yesterday. Same as 10,000 years ago.
You cannot substantiate a ‘collusive’ plan for global rule with fact, no matter how much you claim it is one. You must ‘interpret’ facts you’ve sifted to ‘illustrate’ a point, not a fact. The same process can be used to ‘factually’ refute your point. Interpret, illustrate with interpretation.
Libtards have made your non-factual approach an art form with Russian Collusion stealing Hillary’s Presidency, just as yours has with ‘Capital Cartel’ collusion. Both ideas are equally inane.
“…disease, famine, and war” have all operated within cycles that, like the four seasons, arrive and depart on tides of human emotion. No ‘Capital Cartel’ can control human tides any more than they can control ocean tides. Channeling them short-term, sure. But it always creates a focused blowback that isn’t at all predictable. Yet your fictional ‘Global Rule Overlords’ have always had a bulletproof plan to handle unpredictable people (especially their co-conspirators). Right.
Every plan falls apart eventually; no center ever holds indefinitely. You say differently, with any facts to back you up except…
…”Watch the ‘Capital Cartel’ video again!”
I don’t have time to explain every little detail even though I gave you very specific names and the underlying ideologues who frequent the evolving doors of Big Business and Big Government….aka our fascist overlords…
Joan Veon, Rest in Peace spent much of the last years of her life speaking out about what is being constructed with flicks of pens, out in the open; but, buried in distractions and bullshit and hidden with the power of the mockingbird operations. Watch the flick “Kill the Messenger ” about Gary Webb if you don’t think this happens frequently.
Joan Veon explains the New World Order
Conspiry theorist?!!
Hardly! Conspiracy realist!
Definitely!
At about 17 minutes in, Veon explains how the Central banking institutions found in major countries bring “into line” any government who wants to disband their central bank, all the other central banks collude and sell that nation’s currency at once ….
Supposedly this won’t happen to the U.S. Dollar and FRNs, at least the naysayers on TBP will say but time will tell….that will be the beginning of the end that will require the reset button.
A forest hiding trees is all you provide.
I’m not disagreeing with the notion that there are powerful people and institutions that conspire to control nations with currency, or that they want the entire world under one yoke. It’s behind every empire’s dream and every megalomaniacs secret desire to rule.
I’m insisting that a ‘One World’ government, or any over-arching ‘global’ control of individuals, much less of nations, is impossible within the current state of human evolution. Nobody is ready to bow to someone they don’t respect on the other side of the world.
It would be easier to herd cats, and that’s what anyone who says there is a ‘coordinated , global plan’ never addresses. I’ve no doubt that there are plans that are globally coordinated to achieve a long-term goal; but that is exactly what undermines the argument. It’s been going on for all of recorded history and the shit-show hasn’t changed at all; just the actors.
This centuries-old plan by the monied interest hasn’t worked and it won’t. We are NOT headed (much less managed) toward a one-world government, we’re headed for the decent of all governments into chaos.
Oh, I forgot; that’s part of ‘The Plan’, which no matter what happens, over and over, and over, will eventually succeed. Definitely… because it’ll be different next time.
D.D. said,
I’m saying , just as Joan Veon is saying that it’s already here, just not out in the open with a globally justifiably -perceived enforcement mechanism, yet.
The Transhumanist movement has been infiltrating discourse and introducing and framing predictably programmable concepts into the human consciousness via Hollywood, and social programs integrated into Public Schools and social media, to shape public perceptions about the supposed next level of human evolution; the merger between man and machine (nanotechnology, crisper gene editing, life extension, the digitization of memory and consciousness technology, cybernetics, synthetic skin, augmented reality, and A.I. ) and the push for Direct Democracy and digital voting apps, will only propel humanity towards the one world Big Brother-Nanny State…
I do believe I mentioned this wouldn’t happen until after the will to fight was sapped from the remnant of generations who lived through the populist nationalist era we are at the beginning of living through in the Western world.
“I mentioned this wouldn’t happen until after the will to fight was sapped from the remnant of generations…”
Whataya mean, ‘after’ the will to fight is sapped? It’s already been sapped.
Nobody in this country has the will to fight for anything except their home, and damn few could resist any level of force.
So how long now? Hedging your prediction by how many centuries?
“It’s already here, just not out in the open…”
It’s been here for centuries, dolt. In the open.
“They”, your ‘Capital Cartel’, don’t want anything from anyone except their money and they already have it. You think the global elite give a shit what we do if they’re able to milk our bank accounts dry? They own the world and we are renters. That’s always been the case and it’s not a ‘conspiracy,. It’s human nature.
It’s no different than a bunch of outlaws robbing a stagecoach. The gang retreat to a camp and start shooting each other over the spoils to increase their shares.
Your ‘coordinated conspiracy’ never addresses the fact that those you purport to be its drivers are apex predators that have no friends, only gang members who want each others shares and nothing else.
Your claims could be made at any point in human history. That is a fact that requires no ‘interpretation’, and it negates your argument that there is a plan spanning 1,000s of years. It’s human nature, not centralized planning. It’s cyclical, not linear.
Speaking of NEO FEUDALISM….
The gap between the 1% and everyone else continues to widen as the capital (assets) are consolidated into fewer and fewer controlled hands.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-05/goodbye-middle-class-percentage-wealth-owned-top-10-just-got-even-bigger
There will be a globally coordinated, one-world government of this planet.
It won’t happen as the result of a powerful conspiracy or global ‘authority’; it will be the result of a unified world view. It’s first breath will be the vapors from the crucible of all-consuming warfare that leaves no part of this world untouched by fire, famine, pestilence, plague, and the chaos of absolute lawlessness. That’s the script everybody is going to be living soon enough, and no plan will survive it. It will continue longer than anyone can imagine.
It will not be a man, or men, that ‘enforce’ a new world order or bring unity to this world. That can only happen AFTER humanity joins hands. It will take a long time and too many setbacks to count. In the meantime, men will do as they have always done. Kill each other for reasons that never make sense later.
That dark vision can be illuminated easily.
The ‘Leaders’ of the WWI’s butchery were furious when the unifying spirit of humanity joined German and Allied troops together in song, sharing love for their fellow men in ‘no man’ land, on Christmas Eve.
https://www.veteransunited.com/network/remembering-the-world-war-i-christmas-truce/
See you in ‘no man’s land’.
The creepy artwork that used to grace the halls of the Denver Into. Airport is foreboding if you ask me.
Civil war, or even revolution, could happen at the flip of a switch or introduction of a bad-enough polyvalent computer virus.
Ask yourself what the consequences would be if the EBT system developed a lengthy ” glitch” in the manner of nationwide “Stuxnet”? Anything more than three days would probably mean major cities burning.
Then add in a clever shutdown of any major portion of the power grid (because the gummint is busy taking care of our infrastructure, right?) and all bets are off that any civil society could continue and with just enough time civil unrest devolves into civil war.
Hungry bellies, no entertainment, no lights and no heat make for very angry “Inner City” and Lumpen populations.*
*(The Evil Fuckers will be unconcerned cruising Polynesia in 40 meter yachts en-route to private island villas; or hanging out at a favorite Tango bar in Argentina’s (Bolivia?) quiet hinterlands having a nice steak and a medium bodied Chilean red blood-of-the-grape to go with it.)
Semper paratus : the watchwords for our caliente, and getting more picante every moment, era.
True!!
I think we are too uneducated , too lazy, too fractured, and too apathetic for anything close to civil war and certainly a successful civil war. I call success the revolutionary war, Bolshevik revolution, the civil war 1. Unsuccessful Cambodia in the 1970’s and French revolution. At least one side must have leadership of the educated elite, but in our system the elite would flat out refuse to end the status quo, because they are entrenched in the system and the status quo will bring collapse not war. Collapse and a neo-feudal system is more our future than all out binary civil war meant to repair or prevent the collapse.
The killing has already started.
It began with attempted political assassinations, progressed to successful political assassinations, then targeted killings of hostile civilian targets.
It’s going to accelerate.
This shouldn’t be news to anyone here.
Day X is coming soon.
Then there is the political violence on the Left – who funds AntiFA, anyway?
We are now certain:
https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2019/06/04/report-splc-tied-to-violent-antifa-organization/
At the same time they are funding and directing AntiFA to go after us, they are tirelessly working to make us utterly defenseless:
Some videos to help you all get your minds right before the “spicy time”….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9s-L5MbjpM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLj0vutFgF0&t=1323s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EAllm0ssLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=THCfTV4-8zg
Watch all of John Mark’s videos.
I think the following will happen:
There will be many terrible crimes (rapes,torture,murder) committed.
The victims and their families will be basically law abiding people who don’t bother others.
They will expect justice and protection from the system. They won’t get it because the perps are from a protected
class of voters.
Some grandfather in his 80’s will extract justice against politicians, government drones and protected classes.
Slowly at first then all at once.
Like hell. I’m not waiting 20 years to extract juice in my 80’s.
pretty good article. my only nitpick: “The United States has a peaceful history.” In what way? This country started with war and has been in some flavor of war for almost its entire existence from the brits, to the indians, to the mexicans, spanish, etc. not even including the last 50 years of shadow wars spanning every continent except kangarooland. in terms of domestic violence, after the west was settled it did die down, but there still is a shitload of violence if not open warfare it’s just dismissed and/or downplayed and the average white person never sees or hears about it. even things like mangled flesh with metal in car wrecks are pretty much only seen by ems, police, doctors. by the time it’s sanitized for the local news it’s just another forgettable story. ditto with all the beatings, rape, and murder committed by non-whites against whites. normal people would have burned this country to the ground if they saw even a fraction of the raw violence perpetrated against us on the daily. peaceful it is not.
Thank you!
Point taken – I should have clarified – our peace has been internal. Sure, the 1960’s, the Bonus March, various riots, but only the one major internal war.
Yeah, we’ve had zillions of external conflicts. Wonder if that was the relief on the pressure cooker?
More next month.
I look forward to it John…good thread.
Thanks!!
Comment by niebo on another thread:
“Anyway, the thing that gets me about JHK and a lot of other financial gurus is that they NEVER talk about the fact that our system is BASED on a FALSE system; it is a SHAM from the word GO (Federal Reserve Act) and consequent Federal Income TAX. OUR SYSTEM IS BASED ON THE SLAVERY OF ITS CITIZENS. Period. Fuck everybody who says otherwise.”
I don’t want to beat a dead Trojan Horse, but niebo’s comment on Kunstler’s thread: ‘The Zeitgeist Knows’ can fit this thread and a great many others.
Nothing ever is really going to change until we revolt and hang, tar, feather, run out on a rail our slave masters.
The Globalist Lucerifian Banksters relish the idea of rivers of American blood flowing in Civil War 2 and will do everything they can to inflame and fund both sides and or multiple enclaves and wait for the blood to reach high tide. Then, after we have exhausted ourselves and are a wounded, exhausted shadow of what we once were, they will be able to move forward according to their Georgia Guidestone, in your face, blueprint.
I too think that’s exactly correct. Divided we are conquered. We are a nation horribly divided.
I don’t see a CWII coming anytime soon, if ever. The left will continue to have their delusional, petulant moments, which might escalate into an event hear and there…but, at the end of the day…Trump will contine to MAGA this country, win reelection in 2020, the people will clamor for more, and the middle class will continue to prosper; thereby eliminating that powderkeg of potential catalysts which had been building up since George Bush signed the friggin Patriot Act…traitor.
I do see the left continuing to whine, which seems to be the only thing they are good at. Their leaders will mostly be incarcerated, once the full extent of the corrupt Mueller probe and the dozen follow up investigations reveal the full breath of spying, cheating and corruption, which even a banana republic would envy, come to light.
Arming yourself might be a great idea, but make sure you know how to use it, including storing and maintenance. Nothing annoys me more than someone who buys a car and keeps it parked in the garage.
Looking forward to the next installment.
BINGO!! When Mama Stucky dies her son WILL;
—- 1) move to a Red state
—-2) move to a county in that Red state whose kneegrow population is less than 3%.
With no libtards or kneegrows in my life I’ll probably be the kindest, happiest, most loving fucker on TBP. You won’t even recognize me.
You can move next door to me Stuck, the Doomstead is in a county with 200 Amish families and GRAND TOTAL of 6 kneegrows.
I’m loving the Amish village that settled a bit north of us. I love listening to them talking to one another… a version of English that is charming.
You can always drive into the nearest big city and go to Wendy’s to commit a few micro-aggressions – just for old time’s sake.
Iska walking in the wendys door in and of itself is a micro agression……
Western West Virginia looks like a good place to me. Solid Red state, moderate weather, lots of small towns, low taxes. I’m guessing its low in diversity, your personality change with unicorns and rainbows awaits….
So tell me about Senator Joe Manchin! Screw the East COAST!
Montana has Tester, there are some Demo’s in pretty much all the states. But West Virginia is heavily Republican, especially in the middle/western part of the state. Even Manchin used to be more of a Middle of the road Dem, he still isn’t full out commie–even though he pulled to the left. Once he is gone, Republican will win again. And who considers west virginia the “east coast” if that’s the case then that is a wide brushstroke to include that far over. There are plus/minuses wherever you go, but that region has consistent rainfall, mostly mild winters, and very low taxes. Plus you can still drive a couple hours and get to a big hospital, which is nice for older folks or people with chronic healthy conditions–which ends up being most of us if we live long enough.
Plus, stucky could still visit people he knows by car, and if not, they are plenty of old cranky white folks in WV that he could play bingo with 🙂
Tester, while a party line voting commie asshat is actually, is I must begrudgingly admit a very smart dude, articulate, up on his facts and he tends to focus on party crossing issues….vets, farming etc. Our GOP candidate Rosendale in 2016 got smoked bad even though Trump won the state by 10+%
Stucky,
I’ll send you a great link when I find it. It shows racial makeup down to the county level. If I remember correctly, Tennessee is the place you want to be.
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/williamsoncountytennessee,US/PST045218
Avoid Memphis.
My best friend lived in Memphis for about 5 years just until recently. He is a flaming liberal and even he had to admit the black crime there is out of control. He said he was very happy to leave because of that.
Donkey, the 4 least diverse counties in the united states is inTN and KY. There are two counties in north tennessee on the kentucky border and two on the south pen kentucky border. All four counties together! Between nashville and louisville. I read an article then did research something like 98% white there.
abingdon, virginia
As of the census[3] of 2010, there were 8,191 people, 3,878 households residing in the town. The population density was 932.6 people per square mile (360.2/km²). There were 3,788 housing units at an average density of 454.1 per square mile (175.4/km²). The racial makeup of the town was 93.8% White, 3.1% African American, 0.2% Native American, 1.0% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 0.8% from other races, and 1.0% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.6% of the population.[14]
South Holston Lake is about 5 miles south:
Located in Washington County, VA (county population ~52,000)
See you there!
Soon to be overrun by border jumpers and welfare seekers. Too bad.
Thanks! That comes from a personal experience – I’ll probably relate in the installment next month.
Great article, you might try and incorporate the Strauss and Howe 4th Turning theory….I suspect its 1775, 1859, 1939………2019 the last calm before the real shitstorm.
Great idea – I’ll try to get that in the next issue. I’ve written some about Strauss and Howe, but this is a great combination. Thanks!
Come join me in the American Redoubt….the living is good, the sky blue, the water cold and fresh and there is a distinct lack of diversity which makes even interacting with the DMV a pleasant experience. Nice, bright people who are happy to see you at the DMV….shocking! Much as I hate government it actually works well here because they play by the rules and it’s pretty minimal. You have to like snow and cold and carrying bear spray/pistol on even in town hikes but the scenery is stunning!
The Redoubt was a close second to the Ozarks. I have some family in this region and my son wanted to attend Missouri S&T at Rolla.
Still, the Redoubt!
I hunt elk with a passion but the Ozarks have more temperate weather and are an awesome choice!
Every time I call the IRS I talk with the protected class and nothing gets done.
Then I call again, and nothing gets done. Every time.
They’re black because they were too lazy to get off their asses and walk out of God’s oven.
Worth mentioning that if a civil war does occur, foreign nations will not sit by passive and neutral. They will take sides. Maybe even send troops.
Hope to shoot a RPG-7(and maybe a Mg42) before I die.
Until that time will just “upgrade” as the circumstances allow.
Agreed – a very likely outcome.
Exactly why the Marxists would lose. Venezuela is partially a staging ground for this very scenario. It’d serve as a FOL for Russia and you can bet your ass they wouldn’t be on the side of the Californicators. The question isn’t about who would win the uncivil war. It’s about how much wheat wasn’t able to be separated from the chaff.
I could actually envision a scenario where the remnants of the EU and UN (run by the Western Globalists, for all intents and purposes) governing bodies are able to control the Northeast. Good luck controlling the Midwest and South, which would likely have a multitude of ratlines from Russian FOLs in Central and South America.
I would like to see an opinion poll on where would be the best place to locate, then draw up the papers to start a new city called
BurningPlatsville.
Members only of course and then take bets on who will be the last man standing after all our opinions get the better of us.
Perhaps a mix between Civil War II and Red Dawn (1984)?
Foreign enemies are getting uppity and they have enough spies, mercenaries, and domestic enemies in place to start some serious shit in the USSA.
Hey 22winmag – The South was Right!
Good to read you!
Hey popgun where you been? You have been listening to too much Dave Hodges and The Commonsense Show….even if there were foreign soldiers (Chinese and Russians) here under commercial cover do you not have some faith that our military is fully aware….and prepared with a contingency plan? Or are you going with the omnipotent Dark Forces of jews and deep state and bankers that are unstoppable and we are all doomed!!!!! We are in for a fight but we are not doomed.
“We are in for a fight but we are not doomed.”
That is my kinda attitude!
I have some battle flags ready to unfurl for the sons of bitches and daughters of witches too.
Where I worked, we did have date conflict issues at Y2K. I was able to work around it by changing the date on the affected computers from 2000 to 1973.
You see, 1973 had the same footprint as 2000, so for a day or two, I was a hero.
I’ve never watched Naked and Afraid.
Me either buddy, as an average mark…I would be afraid to be naked…
Oregon took one step further to make it illegal for white people to protect themselves against shit skin terrorism. Soon it will be illegal to defend yourself from being brutally murdered by niggers and other shit skins. You’re supposed to willingly give your life at the alter of the subhumans. https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/crime/article/Oregon-bill-cracks-down-on-racially-motivated-911-13924981.php
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Let’s face it: American’ts, despite being the most heavily-armed individual citizens on the planet, are too cowardly to actually use their weapons in a concerted effort and too disunited to even organize such an armed uprising. You people are only “brave” when it comes to using the massive overkill of your military might to bear down on mostly small, defenseless nations such as Grenada, Panama or Belize. When faced with even remotely capable foreign military force you are either fought to a stand-still (think Vietnam, Korea or Afghanistan) or you outright crap your panties and refuse to fight. As in the case of Russia & China.
No, there will be no “civil war” in Amerika. Not at least in the traditional sense of an indignant population rising up in arms against the government. What you will have instead is crazy, desperate fools shooting each other over groceries and other such daily necessities.
Because morbidly obese people addicted to pharmaceuticals, video-games, fast-food, porn and instant-gratification do NOT make for good revolutionaries. However they do make an excellent sheeple for FLEECING.
Too bad you can’t “thumbs down” reality quite as easily, huh?
John Brown’s Body shop… featuring a John Wilkes paintbooth
Okay, I might have to steal that!
Spot-on. I think your assessment of being at #6 is correct. I and others have spoken of moving out of SoCal.
Thanks – it comes from personal experience, which will be in the next issue.
98… by the way. a good piece, John. Any relation to the Little House on the Prairie Wilders?
You’re on the money as to where I got the name, but not related. When we moved to Alaska I wrote a post called “Little Cabin in the Cold Woods by John Ingalls Wilder” as a joke. Soon enough, the Internet had cataloged my blog as by “John I. Wilder.”
I figured it was just perfect.
I was working a project in Orange County last year. On almost every visit the local team were asking me questions about living in the midwest. ALL of them, outside of the Asian dude, were looking at moving out.
My wife and I moved from a, uh, “urban” environment to a very rural and very non-diverse local. When ever I visit my previous home area, I am VERY careful what I say about my current location. Nine times out of ten I will bad-talk it and express regret that I ever moved away. The last thing I want is to encourage the average urbanite to relocate to where I now am. The reason why large cities are the way they are, is because the inhabitants there are the way they are.
On a related theme, when speaking with locals here in my new area, I often assure them that I am grateful to be here, and have an intention to adapt, to fit in, and to NOT change how they do things.
Probably falls into the economic stuff, but what about the state of pension funding and taxes in municipalities and states? Places like Chicago, Illinois, etc… run out of or will run out of OPM? The U.S. federal government cannot bail them all out, and the appetite for bailing out any of them is low. What about GM’s moving plants to Mexico because $98 billion pension obligations? This idea of retirement and pensions paid by disappearing customers/taxpayers can and will result in lots of presure, maybe collapse?
That’s not a fall, it’s a swan dive off a cliff without a splash. Art.
Civil unrest blossoming into city-consuming riots will undoubtedly have an economic fuse of failed pension plans and loss of government ‘entitlements’. One will generate the pure rage of being robbed of something earned, the other will incite extreme violence from an ‘underclass’ with no other way to survive except crime.
Those losing pension payments they’ve earned, either by default or exponential inflation, will not surrender their homes. Those whose EBT cards no longer work will burn their homes and then try to take somebody else’s.
Those comfortably ensconced in the countryside will be fine. Nightly News will feature a series of entertaining, inner-city barbeques quickly becoming metropolitan wildfires.
Got marshmallows?
Great thought.
does annyone remember the term anticuliation
Searched and could not find any reference at all to “anticuliation.”
Ask any 3rd generation ghetto monkey.
It’s the Ebonics term for articulation
Thanks. I guess I should have just “axed.”
Immigration, exponentially.
I’m not anti-immigrant but there has to be a safe amount of time to absorb the influx
Our first civil wars casualties were 80 percent Germanic.
I don’t see civil war beyond the guerilla stage. Missouri Kansas et al
It starts when it gets personal. I believe some type of border war. Illinois/Missouri maybe. We don’t want those Illinois libs moving from their broke state to our not quite as broke yet state.
Kinda daunting if you think about it, and yet it seems both sides in their guts know its coming. Will lawful people be victims of atrocities by the lawless, leftists totalitarians? Or, will the lawful embrace the ferocity with which creatures in the wild employ in order to survive? Stay tuned…