President Trump stands to lose voters in 2020 if his administration undermines the Second Amendment. Unfortunately, that’s exactly what’s happening. Consider the events of the last several weeks.
First, Attorney General William Barr announced the creation of a working group to consider ways to enforce the Lautenberg misdemeanor gun ban.
This 1996 ex post facto law was a major victory for gun control groups. It imposed a lifetime gun ban for a “crime” as minor as spanking your kid or spitting on your husband.
And one of the great, unintended consequences of the ban is that it disarmed many police officers — retroactively.
Now Barr can’t understand why the law we predicted would be ineffective has, in fact, been ineffective.
Secondly, additionally, at the request of the Justice Department, the Supreme Court turned down a petition to review whether suppressors are protected by the Second Amendment.
As a result of hearing damage suffered while I was in the Army, I have a shrill screeching in my ears 24 hours a day. That’s 3,600 seconds every hour, every day of my life. How ironic it is that people in the Trump administration consider this a small thing?
Also at the behest of the Trump administration, roughly 500,000 bump stock owners continue to be outlaws, while challenges to their ex post facto regulatory ban continue to drag on through the courts.
Lastly, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi loaded the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) reauthorization with reams of gun control — and Republicans may sign off on it.
Under section 801 and 802, everyone you’ve ever dated could bring a secret ex parte proceeding to strip you of your guns — and of your Fourth, Fifth and 14th Amendment rights as well.
With no due process whatsoever.
Now, we are being told that some Senate Republican offices would like to negotiate with Democrats — deleting some gun control provisions but keeping others.
And all of this happens while Donald Trump, in a public love-fest with Piers Morgan, publicly muses about how he could eliminate NFA-regulated suppressors.
These, incidentally, are already registered and subject to intense government background checks.
And — oh, yes — Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is still holding up the possibility of cutting a deal with anti-gun Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) to encourage the use of gun confiscation orders in all 50 states.
Which brings us to: Trump versus Biden.
Despite all the “happy talk” you hear in some media circles, the 2020 election is not going to be a cakewalk for the president.
In fact, the surest way for Trump to lose is for his supporters to assume that it is impossible for him to lose.
Look at 2018. Democrats sent tens of thousands of workers to harvest ballots in target districts and spent the better part of $5.4 billion in electing their candidates. Yes, that is billion with “b.”
And, yet, a flip of only 55,000 votes in 18 districts would have left control in the hands of the Republicans.
So what’s Trump’s strategy? That support for gun control will send students and suburban women flocking to him?
While neither of these groups are monolithic, the voters in these categories who hate Trump are not going to flip because of his support for gun control.
And, while I’m not suggesting that gun owners will vote for Joe Biden, they could stay home. Or sit on their hands.
If Trump loses the western tier of counties in Pennsylvania, plus Macomb County, Michigan and Florida’s “Redneck Riviera,” then he probably loses the presidency.
And for what? Does Trump think Broward County, Florida is going to flip?
Donald Trump promised us he would be the best pro-Second Amendment president in history. Thus far, that’s not been the case.
Having said that, there’s still time to turn things around. Donald Trump could get all of his base behind him by fixing his positions on bump stocks and suppressors and probably win big.
But betting against the Second Amendment has never been a winning strategy — for Democrats or Republicans.
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Becoming? Surprisingly? Anyone who didnt know already has had their head in the sand.
SOOOO true!
Why on earth would anyone buy a “legal” muffler?? Just because they like paperwork and donating more $$$ to the US govt? Lordy help these blind and deaf fools lean to see and hear, and more importantly, to think!! The evil DemoncRats who made these rules did so precisely to know who had them in order to trap you when TEOTWAWKI is starting up in earnest. These “laws” directly violate the 2nd amendment and are unconstitutional and therefore irrelevant. But like Jesus said, when going into a den of vipers, it is best to know how to handle the deadliest of them all. Be Prepared. YMMV
Never a winning strategy for Democrats?? The Democrats are ALL IN against the 2nd ammendment. They all talk about semi-auto bans, which would be over 80% of all guns. They want your 3 round bolt action rifle locked in a safe, with a trigger lock and they want you to pay through the teeth for the “right” to own that gun or bullets for it.
To try and conflate the Dems and Rep’s on the issue of guns is complete insanity.
Bump stocks are an extremely fringe item that most gun owners, even most hardcore gun owners never bought. Everyone I know owns guns and none of them bought a bump stock. Only one of my friends owns a supressor, although it would be nice to not have to wait 6 months and pay through the teeth to get something to make the gun a bit quieter.
The title to this piece is utter bullshit. Trump is not anti-Gun, he may not be the most pro 2nd ammendment president ever, but he probably is pretty damn close in the modern era. This is one area that the Dems and Reps are axiomatically different. The Dems demean gun owners, they when honest talk behind closed doors on how to completely disarm everyone (except their bodyguards). There are some Rhino types that aren’t too great on the 2nd, but for the most part the only reason most states haven’t gone full out commie is the Republicans. The Republicans in alot of states have to vote 100% against the crazy state gun bills to try and prevent them from becoming another California or New Jersey. Once they get people to just have bolt action rifles, then they will go after those once they realize that bolt action rifles include many of the most powerful and accurate guns out there. They will label deer rifles as “sniper rifles” and look to continue their agenda of disarming everyone before they do what commies always do, look for ways to throw everyone who doesn’t agree with them in prison camps, or just murder them outright.
Trump is a piece of shit. He has been backstabbing his base since he ascended to the Cherry Blossom Throne in DC. Puhleeze. He has already thrown gun owners under the bus in a very public way once. “Conservatives” are like battered housewives. Pathetic. You always make excuses. You never seem to learn.
Is that you Barry ?
Not Barry, but the other Obama. You know, the one with the bigger biceps.
If that’s directed at me, I’m a white guy ( I prefer YT) who got tired of being lied to by the Gay Old Poopers and wised the fuck up. Thank you so much.
Tacitus, I upthumbed you for both comments.
Maybe that’s good, maybe it’s bad, but I feel you. That’s good.
Trump gave me more hope than Barry did, and I’m disappointed in him, not Barry. I knew Barry was a fake. No disappointment at all.
I expected to be disappointed by Trump; this term, if I read him right. He doesn’t care about this country, he only cares about his legacy as a leader.
Nothing means more to Trump than how he is scripted posthumously. Nothing. He must be right. He MUST be reelected. I think he reads the current situation correctly, now, to meet that destiny, to be reelected.
Like a skate boarder straddling a handrail, we’ll see if he sticks the landing on a second term. While on the rail, he must give breadcrumbs to the pigeons on both sides. Or he’ll fall off the rail.
Today, the fact that Trump lives on as POTUS is his biggest achievement. He wants a lot more than survival. He wants dominance over the Swamp. He wants a place on Mt. Rushmore. He’ll never get it without the 2nd Amendment.
In some ways a Democrat president with a Republican Congress/senate is better for gun rights. At least the democrat wouldn’t have morons like you defending him. And no Republican in the country would dare support any of the legislation if a democrat proposed it. None of these things would get passed. Now trump will get ‘bipartisan’ support because it’s trump doing it, and people like you who can’t see this are on the internet saying it’s not that bad.
And you are a moron if you think the outcry over bump stocks is actually about bumpstocks for most of us. I don’t own a bumpstock, nor do I want one. I think they are silly and only useful for wasting amo. Sure, it looks fun, but my ammo budget is consumed with regular training and matches, and doing pretend full auto mag dumps into a berm with a huge grin on my face isn’t something I budget for. But, and here is the important part, bumpstocks comply with the letter of the law that defines what constitutes a full auto, and therefore NFA regulated, weapon. The law was written years ago, passed by both houses of Congress and signed into law by the president. You know, the way laws are supposed to work. Now, trump has changed all that by executive fiat in the same manner he complained about Obama’s governing. If trump wants to ban bump stocks, he can get congress to pass a law redefining what makes a weapon a machine gun and sign it if it’s passed. If he can issue an order that contradicts what existing law says, what’s to stop the shitlib that wins next time from doing the same thing with other gun accessories? That’s illegal. Unconstitutional. Hes worse than Obama’s, who knew he couldn’t get away with such things. I don’t care for bunpstocks, but I do have competition triggers that ‘allow me to fire the gun faster’ on a couple guns I compete with. Will you be on here defending those executive orders too? Will you wait until they come after something you actually do like and own, and then wail about it then? Or will you start objecting to illegalcgun grabs now?
Who voted this down? Why are they reading TBP???
Preach it!
From the fuckwits who haven’t passed a budget in 13+ years? Trump’s just abusing the system Obama created: issue an EO and just keep stumping for it publicly in the hopes the courts don’t get too pissy and slap it down. This is the (hopefully fairly short) future of government in the US. The legislative branch is now fully and completely a “sentence it to committee” circle jerk.
It’s an insatiable process, remember when they railed against the “Saturday Night Specials”.
The only positive of Trump in regards to firearm rights was folks at moment can still buy firearms and ammo with basic ease for most part.i expect sales to pick up a bit as the election comes closer.
Either you do away with the second or all firearm laws are unconstitutional,that is the reality.
Do away with the Second Amendment? Why bother when the Elites “interpret” it into meaninglessness? The “2ND” protects NOTHING. DC v. Heller was a shadow victory for the OTHER SIDE. Wake up.
When they finally murdered and buried the 4A in a shallow grave in the early aughties, the 2nd came to be a cipher. They can lock you up and take your stuff on the flimsiest pretexts, and your only recourse is endless, expensive and possibly futile legal action, or “how you gonna go, with hands on you head or on the trigger of your gun?”.
that’s right, so stock and save!
All firearm laws ARE unconstitutional .
“shall not be infringed”
It seems all of our “educated” liberals, don’t know what a comma means…..
ALL politicians are PRO GUN – the guns protecting them, the guns in the hands of their glorified goon squads. Trump is no better, anybody who thought different is a SUCKER. If you want to preserve your rights you had best get your head out of your ass and realize voting IS NOT GOING TO SAVE YOU. THEY ARE COMING FOR YOUR GUNS! THEY ARE COMING FOR YOU! And all you obedient dumbasses who registered a suppressor under a “trust”, thinking you were being slick getting around the CLEO sign off and lining the feds’ pockets while you did ( they are always happy to take your $) – what’cha gonna do when OrangeMan takes them off the NFA and flat out criminalizes ownership at the federal level? As in, the entire United States? The ATF(E) already knows what doors to knock on. Give ’em up or go to prison! Congratulations, suckers, you fucked yourselves again.
Since the Democrats are pretty much communist nowadays, they are against citizens freely owning guns. Here in Kentucky, one reason the Democrats controlled the state for the last 40 of their 96 years in power was because they were pro-gun. Now, every time they run a candidate for Congress that candidate is for gun control and abortion, and they can’t understand why they don’t get elected. The Democrats lost the rural Kentucky vote over the social issues. The Democrat gubernatorial candidate for this next election has said he is against concealed carry of handguns in face of our Legislature and governor passing a law allowing this without a license; this and his support for abortion will probably seal his fate even though he is running against an unpopular governor. So far I know who supports the citizens’ right to own guns that are unknown to the government, and it’s sure not the Democrats.
I have an acquaintance who owns an NFA-legal suppressor. Not long after he submitted the paperwork, without warning, the FBI showed up at his house. He refused to let them in. They said. “OK, no entry, no suppressor.” So he changed his tune, and they did, too. He was approved. BUT they did “inspect” his gun collection; everything was clean, registered, etc., but he was not happy about them “logging” all of them again anyway.
So, maybe suppressors are a “niche” accessory, but taking them from people who have already jumped through extry hoops and scrutiny to purchase them (the FFL he has to maintain allows “them” to inspect his collection at ANY time) . . . is BS.
However this latest “shooter” got the one he used . . . my guess is it did not involve any appearance by the FBI.
If you can own a gun, you will get approved for a suppressor. It’s a pain in the ass, I’m dealing with it right now for two of them, but eventually, after a year or more, you’ll get approved. But the process is insanely idiotic. Just to buy a muffler for a gun. He got inspected like that because he is an FFL, not because he wanted a suppressor. Trump or anyone else talking about the need for further regulation obviously has no clue what they are talking about, and has definitely never bought one.
Here’s how it goes for me. I travel a lot and didn’t want to risk any potential legal issues of them being in my house while I’m traveling for work and my wife is in the house without me. I set up a trust. That cost me 100$, plus had to pay to get things notarized. Ordering a suppressor online isn’t much different than ordering a firearm, you just have to find a FFL that is licensed to deal in class III items, which includes suppressors. Most gun dealers don’t have one. Find one close to you and talk to them before ordering the suppressor. Found my dealer, found a good deal on a Surefire FA556, ordered it, had it sent to the class III dealer. Since it’s going to be owned by the trust me and my wife are on, we both have to go to Walgreens and get passport photos taken. We both have to submit two sets of finger print cards. The only place that finger prints you for free is the county jail about 20 minutes from my house, the other police stations want 12-15$ per card, so I’m looking at 60$ for two cards for the two of us. No thanks. So we go to the jail, with all three kids, to get fingerprinted and hang out in the waiting room for a few minutes with the dregs of society, who are mostly there for things other than getting fingerprinted if you get my drift. One woman decided it was OK to touch my two year old, so they all got hand sanitizer baths in the parking lot, since being little kids they also touched just about everything in the waiting room. Anyways, photos and fingerprint cards in hand, we go to the dealer. Put a copy of the trust, the print cards, our photos, all the paperwork the dealer said we need in one big envelope along with a check for 200$ made out to the ATF. We then have to fill out other paper work like the ‘responsible person’ forms into another envelope to mail off to the CLEO in our area. I was able to fondle my suppressor for a few minutes while we waited, and could take the flash hider that is needed to attach the surprssor to the gun with me so I can go ahead and mount it on my own rifle. All our paperwork filled out and sorted into the proper envelopes, we then drove to the post office to mail all that shit off. About a week and a half later, the check clears, so I at least knownthey got everything in the mail. Now I wait for anywhere between 9 and 15 months for the dealer to get permission to allow me to take my suppressor home. All of this for a 5 inch tube of metal that makes an AR gun shot just barely hearing safe at about 134 dB. Tell me again, mr trump, how it’s too easy to buy a ‘silencer’ and further regulations are needed.
You should be able to buy a supressor off the shelf with no background check. I swear TV/and Movies are how politicians determine how dangerous or scary something is. My buddies supressor on his AR is still resonably loud, but he can at least forego hearing protection if he chooses. These people think it actually silences the gun, which is a joke, its more akin to a .22 sound.
The problem is the non-gun people think they know stuff b/c they watch TV shows. So AR’s are somehow magically super dangerous, despite being one of the weaker rifles around. People like AR’s precisely b/c they are fun and easy to shoot b/c they are weak enough that they don’t kick much at all. It’s not that fun to do alot of target shooting with a 30.06, or SABOT slugs, whereas it feels like you are getting punched in the shoulder repeatedly.
Attempts by the Demo-Commies to demonize weapn accessories that look scary, or guns that look scary, unfortunately have worked to a large degree. You have the sheeple just nodding and automatically assuming that anyone who shoots AR’s are “gun nuts” or something. The truth is a lot of old bolt actions were “weapons of war” the .308, the 30.06 both used as “sniper rifles” by the US military in the past and present. The bottom line is we our freedoms shouldn’t be able to be taken away by polls or popular opinions of uniformed people that usually live in cities and are scared of guns or don’t see them as tools. For alot of us in the country we need guns to keep our properties from being destroyed by groundhogs. AR’s work great for that, especially those chambered in .22 but yet this gun is supposedly the most dangerous weapon you can get, its an utter joke.
Hathcock shot the Winchester Model 70 .30-06 using an 8-power Unertl scope.
The Unertl didn’t even have Mil Dots and he was shooting 800+ yards.
Just to make an example.
Trojan Horse.
Rights are given to us by God. We keep them with guns.
“Having said that, there’s still time to turn things around. Donald Trump could get all of his base behind him by fixing his positions on bump stocks and suppressors and probably win big.” Michael Hammond is a retard. Bump stocks and silencers are not firearms. They’re gun accessories. They have nothing to do with the Second Amendment. Gun nuts are some of the weirdest people I run across on a daily basis.
Ammo isn’t a firearm either, right?
You are among the worst of the pathetic trump fanboys on this site.
So vote for Hillary, gator
Star – when the Second was written, you could own ANYTHING. Want a cannon – good your you, son. Plant it in your front yard as a warning to tyrants.
The second amendment says keep and bear arms. Far as I am concerned that should mean machine guns, tanks, cannons, surface to air missiles, hand fucking grenades – if you can defend yourself with it, and prevent tyranny with it, it should be legal to own. I mean, try to create a fucking militia with a bunch of slingshots.
I want a militia with some fucking modern weapons. Including whatever the govt has – I wants me some of that shit, just in case they go rogue.
Seriously, people forget what the 2nd is all about.
llpoh,
years ago i went to a talk given by stephen halbrook,the noted 2nd amendment atty–
i asked him if at the time the 2a was written could citizens own cannons–“sure”–
you’re 100% correct–
2a people need to start making the point that the relatively few(esp among whites) people who are murdered by guns are a tiny % of the people who would be murdered by a tyrannical govt–
you guys also need to bone up on how many of our gun laws were aimed at minorities,and start shoving that in the faces of leftists–
Llpoh: I agree 1,000%!
LLPOH, I could not agree more.
yes, but now we have to deal with the reality of negros
Star – I do not know about you, but I would rather deal with that reality with a 50 cal machine gun, a few dozen claymores, a big ass tank, mortars, heavy artillery, advanced body armour, etc.
I do not believe in the bullshit of banning honest citizens from having weapons while only allowing criminals to have them. These bullshit laws are not stopping a single Tom, Dick, or D’Shawn in Detoilet from carrying. Fuck that shit.
Most people just want to be ruled.
Freud, who thought I wanted a three-way with mommy and daddy; Yung, who thought I was confused about whether I liked mommy or daddy more; and Foucault, who thought I could find wisdom in such madness, would all applaud you.
They all figured out later that all I wanted was to be ruled.
Here are the acolytes who hold the candles they lit:
https://www.bestmastersinpsychology.com/30-most-influential-psychologists-working-today/
Dilbert comics inform more than they do, collectively.
who the fuck are you to tell me what i can and cannot own? faggot.
Wouldn’t this just have been easier if you guys would have just told me you are Hillary voters. Listen up knuckleheads, you only have two choices. Stop being so afraid of a boogeyman. Trump ain’t taking your guns. This article is from The Daily Caller, a wack lib website.
The time to start burying your guns to evade and conceal, is the time to start digging them up for imminent use.
I think the President is pro Trump! Whatever helps Trump. The suppressor thing should have been approved and bump stocks are a joke. Democrats actually talk about disarming Americans. Go buy an AR-15 while you can. They are actually really cheap right now. I bet that won’t last.
I have said this before – when Trump said take their guns first and worry about whether it is legal second, he PERMANENTLY lost me. That is fucked up and bullshit.
Big Injun Chief has the right idea. I want to own what the Government owns. Especially the police and National guard .They will be the first ones used to try and disarm white people. As most of the gun violence is black inter City violence. They got to take guns away from white people before their New World Order can be crammed down our throats. Remember their real agenda is One world Socialism for all of us but not them. White people are the only thing standing in their way.Also remember that it is a class of wealthy Jews who are behind all gun control . It has always been and always will be the wealthy elite Jews who are manipulating the events through their ownership of the media. Thus they are pulling Trump in this direction as he has surrounded himself with Jews. It’s not blacks , it’s not Mexicans or Asians. It is wealthy Jews who see white people or pro 2nd amendment minorities as their enemies. Remember this as we go forward
That so many Jews are in favor of gun control is a mystery that I will probably never understand. The fact that most Jews in 1930s Germany didn’t have guns is what enabled the Germans to so easily round them up and send them to camps. You would think that Jews, of all people, would understand the importance of citizens having guns.
Look at the Bolshevik revolution.
Jews have guns, Jews run DC, Jews don’t want goyim owning guns.
Very true. There was a great article on the American Thinker the other day talking about how Jews were hoarding up on guns as a result of the recent attacks like it was a good thing. I commented that they were the last group of people who should be buying them, especially because of where they stand publicly on the issue and the fact that they are pretty much behind all the laws and legislation passed that restricts gun ownership and freedom. In fact, if we could segregate the 2nd amendment, I would prevent them and only them from owning them after what they have done to this country and where they stand on the issue.
You are talking about Regyoolah Joos, not Evil Joos.
They have a genetic defect from too much inbreeding…. Also, they realize, I think, as being of the same ethnic origin of a NWO ruling class, the laws will be written to privately and deceptively exclude them, as a class, from the tyrannical laws that will affect everyone else, especially dumb white people / sheeple……
Jews do help Jews only and they do so willingly and religiously, which is why they run everything … The last person on Earth they would help is a wasp, unless their was real money in it for them.
When this country was strong years ago, older generations knew what the Jew was all about and kept them at bay and for good reason, which is why you see what you see now going on in this country… Then the bainwashing started through media and education (strictly them), civil rights acts were passed (a tool for destroying the foundation of the country), and the poor me guilt trip they laid out and constant complaining snowed everyone under… Now we find out they are far worse to us than we ever were to them and see that it was never about equality but total domination over us.
The so called jews of today are not jews at all, they are the khazars and the edomites. These people are cousins to the arabs. The true jews are the white europeans. The khazars and edomites know this and this is why they want to take your guns away and exterminate you!
Sad how fubar’d we are. Soros spent millions at the local gov. levels, pushing for state atty. generals of the gun grabbing ilk and that money is well spent, he’s got a large cadre of state and local officials who have enough power to get the anti-gun laws in place and the police forces large enough to go and single out individuals for harassment. Go after individuals and no one can mount a front to confront their draconian actions.
Look at what is arrayed against Trump as political contenders. Every last one, including Trump is anti-gun. We’d better come up with some strategies because as individuals we’re screwed.
No it’s not. What he was referring to made total sense
How the fuck does he manage to be worse than Obama on every issue?
Oh, right.
How can a guy with no germs be wrong?
Jared is continuously bathed in Cabalistic rituals from synagogues near you.
@penelope7usa
The day after day failures documented by 7usa
Done with him and Jared and his buffoonery std infested mouth
Voters are just as evil as the criminals they vote for.
There are a number of things that must be addressed before the president will win a second term. The gun issue is just one, another is immigration. Record numbers of illegals are walking into the country and being released to go wherever they wish. This is something that many supporters will look at before voting. The President has the legal authority in this matter and can over ride congress and the courts and take serious efforts to stop the flow. To date there has been no serious effort to stop illegal immigration if there was we would not be seeing over 1000 illegals a day just walk in. Combine that with the over 1 million who get visa and come in legally, far too many.