Real Men Doing Real Work

Robert Bronsdon (Hollywood Rob) July 2019

In an era of ipads and cell phones it is easy to lose sight of our heritage of skill and craftsmanship.  One would not be chastised for concluding that we have lost the skills that have got us to the place that we currently inhabit.

That does not seem to be the case, however.  While many have chosen to ignore the development of physical skills, some do persist and they are working with their hands and their tools to produce wonderful things.  It matters little whether those wonderful things are sailboats, or coffee mugs fashioned by hand.  The skilled labor of a dedicated person is something that I try to support in any way I can.

I will never get to sail on this ship.  Neither will you most likely.  But we can revel in the shear audacity that inspires someone to undertake such a monumental task and we can be amazed by the precision of his work.  It is a joy to behold as tons of purple heart are fashioned by hand into the centerline of a sailboat that was first launched in 1910.

And that checking repair is pure magic.

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anarchyst
anarchyst
July 21, 2019 9:16 am

I too sought out a trade instead of college, while engaging in many educational pursuits on my own. Pursuing a trade allowed me to earn a very comfortable living while having the time to educate myself.
I am comfortable discussing just about any subject with anyone from pre-schoolers, high-school dropouts, to those with advanced degrees and PhDs.
In fact, I have had PhDs remark positively about how truly educated I am despite lacking a college degree. There has been some negative criticism from insecure college types about my alternative learning of various subjects, to these misguided individuals who resent my extensive knowledge and lifelong love for learning, despite not possessing a college degree.
In my younger years, it used to bother me, but no more. It’s THEIR problem, not mine.
Opening one’s mind does not require a college degree. In fact, there are those who made great strides in technology despite not having a college degree.
One prime example of this is the story of Stanford Ovshinsky. A machinist by trade, he came up with the idea of amorphous semiconductors. Traditional semiconductors are fabricated from crystalline structures, by complicated, expensive processes, which are then doped with various impurities to gives them unique electrical characteristics. Ovshinsky’s method utilized non-crystalline methods which could be simply sprayed on a surface, while possessing these unique electrical characteristics, much less expensive to produce. He took his ideas to local universities, whose professors all told him that his ideas would not work. He still pursued his line of thinking outside the box and was extremely successful. Multinational corporations such as Sony and Sharp have licensed his patented technology. These same universities, who initially rejected him, in later years, have invited him as a peer and have finally embraced his unconventional methods who they initially said wouldn’t work. Thinking outside the box can be a lonely pursuit, but is quite often necessary to advance the technology. Mr. Ovshinsky himself, admitted that if he had received a traditional college education, he would not have come up with his unconventional ideas.
A university education, while valuable, is not the only way progress is made.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anarchyst
July 21, 2019 9:52 am

I too can talk about anything with anyone, anywhere, any time. I readily identify college types, especially if the have written their schools name on their forehead in permanent marker. Formal education is highly over rated. I possess degrees in both Fahrenheit and Celsius, with special honors in Calvin and Lord Calverts.

M G
M G
  Anonymous
July 21, 2019 10:53 am

I met a little Korean dude who claimed to hold about 14 degrees. Then, he spun into the air and broke a pile of cinder blocks with his hand. Except the one on the very bottom.

He cracked that one with his freaking head.

That’s some impressive degree work, I’m telling you.

Grog
Grog
  M G
July 21, 2019 1:04 pm

I know a guy who has 32 degrees.
He must be a builder, because all I ever see him with is a square and a compass.
BTW, he’s cracked too.

robert
robert
  anarchyst
July 21, 2019 10:39 am

(“who” they initially said wouldn’t work. ) Need to brush up on yur grammer

anarchyst
anarchyst
  robert
July 21, 2019 12:43 pm

“grammar”…

niebo
niebo
  anarchyst
July 21, 2019 2:48 pm

Would upvote a thousand for that if I could

BL
BL
July 21, 2019 11:11 am

Real men doing everything real men should be doing such as marrying the mother of their children, supporting and protecting the children/family, working hard and providing a good example for his offspring. That is what this country sorely needs.

Reject non-human programming, reject the anti-family narrative.

M G
M G
  BL
July 21, 2019 11:27 am

I discovered, on my recent journey to red dirt country, even my old military friends have adult children in the inter-racial and alternative parenting pathways to the future.

I don’t know how it will end up, but from the awkward dinner conversation after I brought up the fact that I started kindergarten the year my school desegregated I’d say it isn’t going well at all for the little blond haired white kid I sat beside at dinner whose mother dates black guys.

Sigh… what can a parent do? My friend asked me that very question when we chatted after her daughter left with her black boyfriend and the grandson went to bed. If she complains, the mother is liable to leave her grandson with the black guy’s family. Her daughter? Blond, blue eyed… aryan in looks.

I don’t get it.

The other friend? An adorable little baby about 8 months… but the parents won’t marry. They claim to both love the baby enough to commit to raising him.

Yeah… well, when he’s a brat in a few years and you both want the hell out, someone is going to wish they had a legal document!

Haha… on my break from the chores. It isn’t raining today, but it is as muggy as a steam bath after a sauna.

BB
BB
  M G
July 21, 2019 11:45 am

Meatballs ,I can talk to you about something anytime you want. I usually charge 50 bucks an hour for my psychiatric help . I don’t charge the good people of the Burning Platform because….well you know the reason.

Now about work. Tell you the truth I can’t do shit. I have no skills what so ever outside of my psychological practice which I do because I like helping people.

55 Chevy - Mexican by birth - American by coyote
55 Chevy - Mexican by birth - American by coyote
  BB
July 21, 2019 10:37 pm

Free shrink help? That alone is worth the price of admission.

M G
M G

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M G
M G
  BB
July 22, 2019 9:22 am

I heard you outright OWN your own big rig! That’s pretty impressive to this midwest farmer’s cornfed daughter.

You know nobody, but NOBODY, around here is allowed to say nothin’ bad about CORN.

steve
steve
July 21, 2019 11:37 am

I didn’t see a carton of soy milk anywhere.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 21, 2019 12:35 pm

When you live in a jungle, have a machete, a video camera, internet access and plenty of free time, but no home and garden tools.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6Af8eTc-66Mk4PyRzYj7EQ/videos

MSyzlak
MSyzlak
  Anonymous
July 21, 2019 1:41 pm

This might be old news to some, but this guy impressed me:

too bad you couldn’t do this in the U.S.

cruelinda
cruelinda
July 21, 2019 1:58 pm

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world around him, the unreasonable man says hell no, therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man (hat tip to George Bernard Shaw)

RiNS the Deplorable
RiNS the Deplorable
July 21, 2019 3:40 pm

Speaking of talent and a ridiculously monumental project…

Check this out.. I have been following this from beginning. At the outset I thought there is no way that this is gonna work… But I just watched the twentieth installment and the thing is now nearly ready for paint..

Pure Canuck Audacity!

This is at halfway point…

And the latest.

It has been amazing series to watch.. All done in just one year..

M G
M G
  RiNS the Deplorable
July 21, 2019 4:35 pm

I saw something like that at the riverbank store yesterday. They build some weird crap out here, too.

Llpoh
Llpoh
July 21, 2019 9:08 pm

In a previous lifetime I ran a large timber window manufacturing facility, with several dozen apprenticed joiners, along with hundreds of assistants, who would generally be of the skill shown, or greater. It was good to see them work. But they were not true masters of the craft.

Amongst all those joiners were a few, perhaps six, true masters, who were simply extraordinary. They each had at least 50 years experience working timber by hand, and loved doing it to the extent they refused to retire.

They could make enormous complex curve windows/ alcoves/ etc. precisely, by hand, to high engineering tolerances, for high value architecturally designed projects (ie mansions). The speed and accuracy of their work was simply astonishing.

And when they were gone, that was the end of their era, as none of the other joiners could approach their skill, nor could modern companies afford to provide the time and training required to get them to that level of skill. Those masters trained under other masters creating individual masterpieces for decades before they were able to create on their own.

These masters often worked with open spindle shapers – the single most dangerous task I have ever managed, though I would never attempt it myself. The spindle comprised a cutter of several hundred teeth spinning at 20,000 RPM, unguarded. They fed complex curved pieces of timber many yards long through these shapers, where any flaw in the timber could result in catastrophe. None of these masters had all of their fingers, and many of their associates had lost limbs over the decades (another reason this died out – modern safety laws forbid most of that type work).

I suppose today giant CNC routers might be able to accomplish the tasks, but I am no longer up to speed in window manufacturing. Those masters were extraordinary. Their loss is to be lamented.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Llpoh
July 21, 2019 9:18 pm

Robots will replace them.

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Llpoh
Llpoh
  Hollywood Rob
July 21, 2019 10:02 pm

HR –

Re paragraph 1, that can be done today. It is a question of whether it will be done today re the low volume. But make no mistake, it will be done in the future very easily indeed. A lot of purchasing is done automatically today, in far larger volumes than $60k. You are not understanding what is available, and what is just coming over the horizon.

People will always have hobbies and crafts. But the day will come, sooner than most expect, when robots will be able to accomplish any physical task that can be done by a human. Whether or not they do so is a function of cost. Even today – for the most part – the current limitation is cost. And costs are dropping, and robotic capability is expanding.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Hardscrabble Farmer
July 21, 2019 9:53 pm

HSF – pretty sure that has happened already. Those old masters are gone. The work is entirely able to be done by robots, but whether anyone has dedicated the large CNC machines do do it is another matter. Those are expensive, and the need for those windows may not match the cost of the equipment.

RiNS
RiNS
  Llpoh
July 21, 2019 11:07 pm

I program the CNC machine at work which is a plasma table that cuts plate steel. It can cut up to 1 3/4 thick, thicker still maybe 7 or 8 inches using OxyFuel.. All with near machine type accuracy within a thousandths of an inch…amazing really what can be done. Last week just for a lark I made an adapter plate to convert a fuel injected motor to a carburetor setup. … when it was done it looked like it came straight from factory

If it can be drawn it can be cut. These days I don’t even draw it as the computer can scan shapes and turn them with some minimal effort into a file for use on machine..

It would be the same for wood or anything else..

The end product wouldn’t fool an expert but for most applications, especially homes, structural and ornamental applications hardly a soul would notice. While fancied by some an expert my training isn’t extensive….I could easily get someone else up to speed in a few months..

Anonymous
Anonymous
  RiNS
July 21, 2019 11:24 pm

Rob – I can get prototypes cut untouched by human hand that have a polished surface. A computer geek does the CAD, and a robot does the cutting.

I can get a part scanned and cut without ever a drawing being made. I can get reverse parts cut at the push of a button.

HR says “No robot is ever going to be programed to create an exact replica of a live oak rib from a boat designed and build at the dawn of the 20th century”. Holy shit, it can be scanned and cut even more perfectly than the original. The only issue is size- is anyone willing to free up that large machine, as they are expensive, to do the cutting. That is why I am unsure if they are doing it for those large complex windows – not a question of can they, but is it economically viable.

Those cutters you refer to are cool to watch in action. The waterjets do some good work, too.

Llpoh

llpoh
llpoh
  RiNS
July 21, 2019 11:28 pm

Here is a vid of a large part CNC machines. A boat rib? Child’s play.

llpoh
llpoh
  llpoh
July 21, 2019 11:34 pm

Another:

RiNS
RiNS
  Hollywood Rob
July 22, 2019 6:35 am

I agree with much of what you say and like you I appreciate the things in life that are hand made..

It is why HSF’s maple syrup tastes so great and why I bought recently. A trinket from a blacksmith. Forged from Iron that was handmade

Pride is important yes But when the boots hit the ground at Walmart it is price that will stand at the day.

RiNS
RiNS
  Hollywood Rob
July 22, 2019 10:25 am

Pride and Spirit will always get Trumped by Fit, form and function anytime price gets entered into the equation.

At least in this modern world as it currently exists.

While I am with you HR on the importance of preserving craftsmanship, at the end of the day if I am running a business as Llpoh has done, it is efficiency that matters. If that bow can be made using CNC machine with close to same result then that is what is going to happen going forward. The only question left is forward to where?

A soulless world where people endure and left to persist.