The Improbable “Airplane”

Guest Post by Eric Peters

Here are some thoughts about the “airplane” that supposedly flew into the Pentagon on the day the “enemies of freedom” struck.

Or did they?

I grew up in the DC area – and I was there on that day. It has always bothered me that not one picture (or video) of an “airplane” flying toward the Pentagon has surfaced. Bothered me because of the improbability.

As anyone who has spent even a little time in the DC area knows, the place is heavily surveilled. Security cameras everywhere; and thousands of tourists with their own cameras, too.

On that day, all those tourists knew two airplanes had been flown into the Trade Center towers in NY. Every one of those tourists would have been looking up – and had their cameras and video rigs trained on any low/erratically flying heavy jet – which they would have heard coming in plenty of time to snap a picture or record video of it coming in (as dozens of people did in NYC).

How probable – how credible – is it that not one image has been produced showing the “airplane” headed toward the Pentagon? It defies logic; it beggars belief.

Which is why I don’t believe it.

Certainly, something hit the building. But an “airplane?

Perhaps it had a cloaking device… or was capable of hypersonic flight… .

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81 Comments
Bob P
Bob P
July 23, 2019 8:08 pm

Lots of good points, Mr. Peters. One more critical question: Why did the FBI immediately confiscate all the videos from dozens of cameras surrounding the Pentagon and never release them except for a few frames from one camera that showed no trace of a huge jet? And this, of course, leads to other questions: Where are those videos? What possible reason is there to withhold them from the public? Did MSM never demand access to the videos because they were complicit or because they’re total morons?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Bob P
July 24, 2019 12:09 pm

“Did MSM never demand access to the videos because they were complicit or because they’re total morons?”

Yes.

Steve
Steve
July 23, 2019 8:27 pm

Supposedly, over 86 cameras were trained on the Pentagon. It is one of the most heavily surveilled places on earth and all they could come with was 1 BS video that was chopped up?

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
July 23, 2019 8:41 pm

Of course a Boeing 757 operating in stealth mode crashed into the Pentagon and made only a 16′ diameter hole and left no significant wreckage. That’s what the government and media told us and even Snopes confirmed it is true.

Eric must be one of those conspiracy theorists to think the official story is bullshit. Eric’s next rant is probably going to try to persuade us that unicorns don’t exist.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Trapped in Portlandia
July 23, 2019 8:56 pm

Of course unicorns exist. That is how AOC expects us all to get around after she bans automobiles. Flying versions will take over for planes. Of course they will have a giant cork in their ass to keep the methane and CO2 emissions down.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
  MrLiberty
July 24, 2019 2:51 pm

If they cork the ass how will the skittels come out?

varnelius
varnelius
  Trapped in Portlandia
July 24, 2019 2:38 am

It wasn’t a 757, it is a 737 MAX that hasn’t crashed yet, and the impact will send it back in time. Until that happens, there’s no video to see.

Elastic Commensal
Elastic Commensal
  varnelius
July 24, 2019 1:29 pm

Where you been, Varn?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
July 23, 2019 8:49 pm

He questions whether 9-11 was the day the “enemies of freedom” struck. They certainly weren’t “friends of freedom” that struck that day. I fully believe that it was a conspiracy of people that likely included any or all of the following – Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the Joint Chiefs, the NSA, the CIA, the FBI, the Mossad, the Saudis, MI6, and any of an assortment of folks from the Deep State that controls our government outside of the boundaries of the organizations mentioned. For damn sure none of these folks give a damn about freedom in the US. I don’t disagree with any speculations he wants to put forth, but that statement really bothered me.

JimmyTorpedo
JimmyTorpedo
  MrLiberty
July 23, 2019 9:15 pm

Over 600 million in short sales for American airlines the week before.
Just a coincidence I am sure.

Capn Mike
Capn Mike
  MrLiberty
July 23, 2019 11:43 pm

So, you didn’t sense the “air quotes” around that remark or the derisive imitation Dubya accent??
Listen harder..

Question Mark
Question Mark
  MrLiberty
July 24, 2019 11:42 am

I think he put quotation marks around it because he was being facetious.

mark
mark
July 23, 2019 9:56 pm

This goes back to 2014.

9/11 FACT: The Pentagon Was Hit By A Cruise Missile From The US Military Arsenal

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 23, 2019 10:16 pm

If building 7 was fake and so was the pentagon then wouldn’t the other events likely be fake also? Why? To what end? What was the goal the strategic purpose?

When in Nome, do as the __ do
When in Nome, do as the __ do
  Anonymous
July 23, 2019 11:28 pm

Gee I dunno, maybe hide some massive theft/embezzlement, rush into effect some outrageous, Draconian laws, and start some stupid, useless wars that consume all our wealth but don’t benefit the USA, but DO benefit another far-away country (or two, actually) that have disproportionate influence on US federal politics.

Extra hint: Israel and Saudi Arabia are not the mortal enemies of each other that they pretend to be.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Anonymous
July 23, 2019 11:41 pm

Non-stop war for non-stop profits and the undermining of freedoms and liberties through legislation that preyed upon the gullible in their time of greatest fear (so, in other words, the same SHIT that government is ALWAYS PULLING).

Capn Mike
Capn Mike
  Anonymous
July 23, 2019 11:45 pm

Uh…”New Pearl Harbor” ring a bell?????

TC
TC
  Anonymous
July 24, 2019 7:34 am

Serious question?

Pequiste
Pequiste
July 23, 2019 11:02 pm

I was quite surprised to learn that Larry Silverstein didn’t have an insurance policy on any rented space/ concessions at The Puzzle Palace.

To say that “The Malignancy” is composed of “The Evil Fuckers” is for very good reason.

Yancey_Ward
Yancey_Ward
July 24, 2019 12:28 am

There were no videos because there was no reason for the public to believe an attack on D.C. was coming. Note there is really one video of the first plane that hit the WTC in which you can tell it is a plane, and for the same reason- it was completely unexpected. There are more than a few CCTV videos with low frame rates that show similar stuff seen in the Pentagon parking lot video we have all seen- you can’t tell it’s an commercial jet- it is just a blob in the frame before the explosion.

The three frames from the security video that were released do show the plane entering the field of view at low resolution. Most people miss it because they expect to see the plane impact at angles over 20 degrees with respect to the ground, but that isn’t how the plane hit the Pentagon- the plane flew parallel to the ground for several seconds before impact and not more than 15 feet off the ground, and it struck the second floor of the pentagon dead on- indeed it flew so low it took out street light poles a few hundred yards from the point of impact. Additionally, there is plenty of photographic evidence of the debris from the impact that clearly are identifiable as coming from a commercial jet, including designs found on any American Airlines plane.

Look, guys, this was the age before smart phones and everyone carrying around high resolution video cameras- such cameras weren’t even very common for CCTV or security systems at that time. Capturing a plane travelling at over 550 mph flying close to the ground isn’t going to amount to more than a blob on a single frame. The second plane to hit the WTC is well documented because news crews from every network were trained on the building with high resolution, fast frame cameras.

UTURN
UTURN
  Yancey_Ward
July 24, 2019 1:08 am

You are one stupid fucking cuck.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Yancey_Ward
July 24, 2019 8:02 am

The proximity of the Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport to the Pentagon could account for the lack of tourist photos of low flying airliners around southern Washington D.C. Surely people haven’t forgotten the tragic 1982 airliner crash into the Potomac river?

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Yancey_Ward
July 24, 2019 9:04 am
Elastic Commensal
Elastic Commensal
  Hardscrabble Farmer
July 24, 2019 1:59 pm

HF, like I said before, I do not dismiss your theory out of hand, it is interesting and one that worked for centuries until Copernicus. You have brought a new addition to the concept of a geocentric universe, a dome. Long before the tv show The Dome, there was a Twilight Zone episode where an entire town was covered by a transparent dome. I prefer the wide open skies. Stars are not merely for governing our fate or predicting our future. The pull of distant stars keeps our own solar system in place. To re-construct the old flat earth model requires the emplacement of a Jenga-like structure holding up the pizza shaped planet Earth. Where exactly does the dome rest? Is it a sanitary barrier around the earth or is earth its supporting structure?

yahsure
yahsure
  Yancey_Ward
July 24, 2019 9:27 am

if you would have said something negative about jews you would get all upvotes.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Yancey_Ward
July 24, 2019 12:10 pm

OK, but still, thousands of tourists w/ 35 mm cameras and no pics.

ASIG
ASIG
  Anonymous
July 24, 2019 4:28 pm

“OK, but still, thousands of tourists w/ 35 mm cameras and no pics.”

To begin with the plane DID NOT! Fly over DC. Where all the tourist and their cameras would have been. It approached the Pentagon from the west and it would be reasonable for most people to assume it was headed for Ronald Reagan Airport. The first indication that something was not right was after it began the 360 deg turn to loose altitude but by then it was some 10 to 14 miles to the south of DC. totally out of sight from anyone on the ground in DC. So even if there were a million people on the ground in DC, no one would have gotten a picture of the plane.

How may tourist would there be ten miles to the south West of the Pentagon that would have been in a good position to get the shot if they were waiting with a camera. Probably NONE?

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  Yancey_Ward
July 24, 2019 12:23 pm

Not fair ladies. I too disagree with YW’s assessment but you can’t just tell him he is stupid. You have to point out that there was a sophisticated security system surrounding the pentagon. All large companies and many smaller companies had exactly the same systems in place. If you worked for any company of any size at the turn of the century you know and have seen the cameras that were used. To assume that the pentagon didn’t have those cameras, and that they were not covering every square inch of the pentagon both inside and out is just silly. They had the best cameras, housed in the best housings, with pan tilt and zoom all hardwired into a central security complex that allowed for daylight and night vision monitoring of all of the property. Every company did.

They won’t show you the footage because it was a missile that hit the pentagon and they don’t want you to know that. One of the people who joins us for lunch at the rock store on Fridays is a retired airline pilot. If you care, I will ask him if an untrained flyer could force a 757 onto the ground at full throttle. I believe that the ground effect alone would cause that alleged plane to fly right over the pentagon. Instead we are supposed to believe that an untrained pilot can drive a large plane into a small hole on the first floor of a building without hitting any of the things in front of that wall. No scrape marks on the ground, no poles knocked down. And surprise surprise, no airplane parts for be found.

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Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Hollywood Rob
July 24, 2019 12:49 pm

HR.
And no scorch marks from the very hot jet exhaust gases on the grass, assuming an out of work Camel Jockey could have flown it on such a low course for even a few hundred feet.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
July 24, 2019 7:57 am

A masonic sacrifice to open a gateway……the symbolic pillars of Boaz and Jachin were passed. Here’s one interpretation:

https://www.reality-choice.org/205/the-esoteric-meaning-of-the-twin-pillars-boaz-and-jachin

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- the see-nothing say-nothing club that put this on the soon defunct world reserve currency, is the same club the strives for the day when gods once again co-mingle with men

Elastic Commensal
Elastic Commensal
  ordo ab chao
July 24, 2019 1:05 pm

Garbage link. Absolute trash similar to the video about the many messiahs in history, including Jesus and Hitler. Trash. This is a big fail for you Sicario.
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ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Elastic Commensal
July 24, 2019 6:01 pm

Maybe so, EC. Time will tell.

I buried my ole dad twenty years ago today….little pre-occupied when I posted the link. All I did was a quick search to grab some info on the two pillars of masonry. I quickly scrolled thru, and thought it was representative in a general sense, of some of the different interpretations of their meaning. I’ll go back to it and pay a little more attention…..can’t get anything past the nose of a good canine.

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- I stand by what I believe was a driving force behind the acts of 911; a “force” that is of the unseen world…….CERN……they’re trying to do sumting, Luci

What video chu talkin bout ?

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Elastic Commensal
July 25, 2019 5:29 am

I came back by to see if you responded to my inquiry about the video you mentioned. You ‘trashed’ the link, so I went back to it. From my understanding, you need to start sniffin around for a place to take a dump, because you’re full of crap on this one.

Old dog wonders by and lifts a leg ? Or, little yapper just yappin ?

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- genetics, robotics, arificial intelligence, nanotechnology…..these boys are trying to open a door/gate/porthole……

…..here’s a video with a christian preacher/author/publisher and a molecular biologist:

Constantly seriously annoyed
Constantly seriously annoyed
July 24, 2019 8:56 am

I had a friend in shanksville that day. His story and the official story are pretty divergent to say the least.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Constantly seriously annoyed
July 24, 2019 9:19 am

Other than whatever came from the skies and plowed into a field where almost all material evidence was pulverized, not much is known as indisputable fact.
Don’t tease, CSA.
Care to share a few of your friend’s things that make you go “Hmmm”

old white guy
old white guy
  Constantly seriously annoyed
July 24, 2019 9:19 am

I find it fascinating that Americans are more than willing to blame our own for something done by an outside force.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  old white guy
July 24, 2019 2:00 pm

Blame our own? Who benefited from 9-11? Our own.
Who got the ‘Patriot’ Act passed? Do you know or understand how many constitutional protections were removed as a result of that act? Who shut down NORAD while the attacks were underway? Israel? Hardly. Homeland Security is now a fact and the WAR ON TERROR has cost how many lives and dollars and outside of creating the great American Police State accomplished what, exactly? Oh, well since 9-11 the Afghan poppies are guarded by the USMC. All the spooks got their black ops monies.

Bush and friends all benefited greatly from 9-11. It was one massive murder committed to cover up massive theft and government corruption, institute a police state, draw the country into another series of endless wars, cover up crimes and make some people VERY rich.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  Mygirl...maybe
July 24, 2019 2:24 pm

I’m going with Mygirl on this one.

mark
mark
  Mygirl...maybe
July 24, 2019 2:37 pm

Just imagine the knee slapping Poppy was doing after 9-11

yahsure
yahsure
July 24, 2019 9:29 am

It helped with the creation of a police state.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 24, 2019 9:52 am

I never believe anything my government tells me “NOTHING”!
At worst 911 attack was an inside job and at best with any benefit of the doubt it was allowed to happen !
17 Saudi nationals and 2 others from some sand nigger shithole organized , formulated and implemented the attack while living among us and being supported by wealthy Saudis living here and abroad “FACT”
So we as a nation attack Iraq , Afghanistan and stir the turd in Libya and Syria while flipping the bird at Iran
Makes perfect sense to me if your real objective is to maintain the US dollar as the world currency to exchange for oil so goes the term Petro-Dollar
Truly a scam on the American citizenry including yellow ribbons and flag waving

Elastic Commensal
Elastic Commensal
July 24, 2019 10:21 am

Does my skepticism about 9/11 also make me a flat-earther – a platter pus?

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Elastic Commensal
July 24, 2019 2:13 pm

was that a pun?

Elastic Commensal
Elastic Commensal
  Mygirl...maybe
July 24, 2019 2:34 pm

If it walk like a duck…

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Elastic Commensal
July 24, 2019 2:44 pm

arf, arf, bark, bark

Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421
July 24, 2019 10:22 am

Not only that but the engines sit like 15+ feet below the fuselage, yet there is no evidence of the engines hitting the ground in front of the building. Yet the damage to the building indicated that the fuselage hit at or very close to ground level. So I guess the engines just disappeared right before impact?

ASIG
ASIG
  Iconoclast421
July 24, 2019 3:18 pm

“Not only that but the engines sit like 15+ feet below the fuselage, yet there is no evidence of the engines hitting the ground in front of the building”

OMG! Where do you people come up with all this nonsense?

Here are the facts: The total height of the 757 at the top of the tail is 44 ft . The vertical dia. Of the fuselage is 13ft 2in.

Now look at the picture, It’s clear that the top of the fuselage is about half the height of the tail so about 22ft; so the bottom of the fuselage is about 9ft above the ground and the engines dia is about centered at the bottom of the fuselage.

So where in hell do you get this bull shit the engines hang 15ft below the fuselage?, OH yeah you also added a + to that bull shit for good measure. LMAO!!
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Elastic Commensal
Elastic Commensal
  ASIG
July 24, 2019 4:17 pm

Looks like the bottom of the engine would be 7 to 10′ lower. How about the horizontal stabilizer and wings?

overthecliff
overthecliff
July 24, 2019 10:58 am

Nobody will ever prove any theory about 911. Any forensic evidence brought forward could and possibly is fabricated. Do you believe the official story of 911? Depends on how much you trust the Bush family and the CIA. On a scale of 1 to 10 my trust is 0.

mark
mark
  overthecliff
July 24, 2019 2:27 pm

-0

Yancey_Ward
Yancey_Ward
July 24, 2019 11:26 am

There are lots of reasons to mistrust the US government, but this isn’t one of them. Four passenger jets disappeared that day, and the evidence is literally overwhelming that all them crashed exactly where the government said they did. For this to be a secret conspiracy, there literally would have to be a 100,000 people involved who managed to not only keep this secret, but to also not provide a single piece of evidence to support it.

So, you tell me- what happened to Flight 77 and where did it and all the people aboard go?

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  Yancey_Ward
July 24, 2019 12:33 pm

Yancey, you have no proof that flight 77 ever left the ground. You have no proof that people were on the plane. You have no video of the alleged plane hitting the pentagon. Not one frame. And that from one of the most heavily surveilled places on the planet. All of that, and not one piece of flight 77 was ever found. No engines, no wings, nothing. And as Icon explains above, there is no way the body of the alleged plane could enter the building on the first floor without having the engines scrape the ground…no scrape marks. Just a nice round hole in the first floor. Just like the hole that a missile would leave.

piearesquared
piearesquared
  Yancey_Ward
July 24, 2019 5:18 pm

Yancey, no one has to explain what happened to Flight 77 to prove that it didn’t hit the Pentagon. However, if you want to know what happened to it, the movie “Operation Terror” provides a plausible explanation. The movie isn’t on YouTube, but I have two links below to sites that have a trailer of the movie, and you can buy or rent the move from the first link. It probably doesn’t get everything right, but it certainly fits the known facts a lot better than the official narrative. But don’t watch the movie unless you have a strong stomach.

As for your comment “there literally would have to be a 100,000 people involved who managed to not only keep this secret”, this indicates a tremendous amount of naiveté. Most conspiracies of this type only involve a few people who know the whole plan. Everyone else is compartmentalized, and only know some small part of what is going on, and often don’t even realize they are part of a diabolical plan until it is too late. Then they are threatened with death, and often actually are killed, if they tell what they know.

http://operationterror.com/

piearesquared
piearesquared
  piearesquared
July 24, 2019 5:29 pm

The second link got cut off for some reason in my previous comment, however the trailer that shows up is the trailer for the second link. Very confusing. Here are the links again without the http at the beginning.

operationterror.com

vimeo.com/57006862

piearesquared
piearesquared
  piearesquared
July 24, 2019 7:44 pm

Still messy. Here is the second link only.

vimeo.com/57006862

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Yancey_Ward
July 24, 2019 11:41 pm

I have limited internet service now and can’t easily post a yt video. Search YT- stewardess and 911. She gives the best explanation of what occurred I have seen.

Found it. KS

Elastic Commensal
Elastic Commensal
July 24, 2019 12:49 pm

Nobody ever mentions two radio news comments from that time:
a. A world renown artist (whose name was withheld) described the arc of the plane that hit the WTC as beautiful.
b. An eye witness said he saw the plane flying low and fast over the highway next to the Pentagon.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
July 24, 2019 3:05 pm

So….HOURS, HOURS after the first stikes, the nation is under clear attack, everyone is braced for more, the fucking PENTAGON, the ultimate Home Base for our entire National Defense Structure, cannot stop an unarmed, massive fat assed commercial airliner from sneaking up on it and delivering a critical hit.
Ok.

Elastic Commensal
Elastic Commensal
  Ottomatik
July 24, 2019 4:26 pm
Ottomatik
Ottomatik
  Elastic Commensal
July 24, 2019 4:56 pm

EC-I had fun with your video the compilation of Funk and Luftwaffe Air Drops was an excellent metaphor for the entire incident. Well done sir.

piearesquared
piearesquared
July 24, 2019 4:17 pm

It truly amazes me the amount of ignorance and/or cognitive dissonance it must take to believe the official narrative about 9/11. Just the fact that Building 7 collapsed into its own footprint at free fall speed, which can only be done by controlled demolition, tells anyone with an IQ above room temperature that the official narrative is bullshit. Considering the fact that over half of all Americans, including a lot of New Yorkers, don’t even know about Building 7, I suspect that (willful) ignorance is probably the main culprit, with cognitive dissonance coming in second.

I suspect that the 4th plane that took off that day (which may or may not have crashed in Pennsylvania) was probably intended for Building 7. When it didn’t make it to its target for whatever reason, they just went ahead and brought the building down anyway, correctly figuring that in the fog of battle the idiot sheeple could be convinced that it is perfectly natural for 47-story buildings to spontaneously collapse into their own footprint at free fall speed.

Elastic Commensal
Elastic Commensal
  piearesquared
July 24, 2019 4:36 pm

That is an interesting theory, PiR2. It’s similar to the Jack Ruby incident. Almost like Oswald was not supposed to get arrested. I mean, they let the hoboes go after they got arrested.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  piearesquared
July 24, 2019 4:51 pm

PIE..
It was Russian Suicide. 7 was so heartbroken to see it’s twin siblings go down, it imploded itself in sympathy and heartbreak. Why is that so hard for you to grasp?

When in Nome, do as the __ do
When in Nome, do as the __ do
  piearesquared
July 24, 2019 10:28 pm

If you look up what was in Building 7, and what was in the SPECIFIC part of the Pentagon that got bombed (cough, “airplane crash”), it’s pretty damn easy to figure out what was going on that day. Oh yeah, also which specific WTC floors were hit by airplanes and devastated – what are the odds two specific major bond trading firms would take direct hits?

What assets were “lost” in the WTC sub-basements? What vital records were “lost” in WTC7?

For anyone who is still really dense, 9/11/01 was the financial crime of all time, not to mention the false flag kickoff for the neocons’ war to MIGA.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 26, 2019 3:15 pm

Ok, normally I just lurk and read all these comments. But, a plane did hit the Pentagon. How do I know? I had non-military colleagues that were killed in a meeting room, doing a debrief on a project our firm was working on. And, oh yea, I was the business type that was supposed to present my analysis about an hour later. Sooooo, I was on the grounds when a PLANE, not a rocket or a bomb or whatever you folks think created that damage, HIT THE BUILDING.

And, oh yea, there was some plane debris on the grounds — just not in the pictures that are typically shown in the conspiracy films. I don’t know who flew the plane, why it wasn’t intercepted, etc. But it takes a perpetually paranoid or truly uninformed person to believe that it wasn’t that jet that struck the Pentagon. And, oh, BTW, did anyone here ever call the families of the people on that plane’s manifest to see if they are still alive? Or did the government just kill them all, destroy a 757, and the pilots to make good on a ruse.

Pathetic thinking….