Robert Bronsdon (Hollywood Rob) August 2019
The Importance of Being Earnest, A Trivial Comedy for Serious People is a play by Oscar Wilde. First performed on 14 February 1895 at the St James’s Theatre in London, it is a farcical comedy in which the protagonists maintain fictitious personæ to escape burdensome social obligations.
But this post is not about trivial people and it most certainly is not a comedy. Your world is about to become a lot more complex, and most of us already find the world as it is to be quite difficult to keep up with. If you follow this blog you will no doubt be aware of “Deep Fakes.” You have perhaps seen the videos that purport of take videos of one person and replace the words and expressions with another. You may recall the one on Barack Obama.
Well, that technology has bloomed quite quickly into this;
https://www.notjordanpeterson.com/
You can now type anything you want into this web page and you will hear Jordan Peterson saying what you typed. And while I suggest that you try it out for yourself, I am sure that you will find that the likeness is uncanny.
So now you can’t believe a single video that you see. You can’t believe a single word that you hear. Nothing in your world has any truth behind it. It might well be Jordan Peterson, or Barack Obama, or Donald Trump, but it might not be and you won’t be able to tell. What do you think the implications of this dishonesty might be? Well, I can tell you one thing for sure, the end result of this development is going to be a complete breakdown of the internet of ideas. How can you believe what you are seeing when you know it can easily and quickly be generated in a computer in somebodies basement. Is that Steven Crowder? Is that Ben Shapiro? Is that Donald Trump? You can’t know.
You already can’t know that Donald Trump makes the tweets that you read. You think it must be, but let’s face it, doesn’t he have more important things to do than tweet to you? He most likely has staff to do his tweets and yet you assume that these are his thoughts.
How about a little closer to home. Every day you read posts on this very blog. Some are written by people who put their names to their thoughts. You can trust that they indeed did write those words and that those words represent their understanding of what they are writing about. Some use pen names, but you know who they are. If you want you can call Marc Moran up and ask him what he thinks and he will tell you. You won’t be able to reach lots of the authors on this blog, but you know who they are. You can research their thoughts and their history and you can verify that what you are reading was written by them. And if, for some reason, it turns out they didn’t write that post or that comment, they will be the first to stand up and say “I didn’t write that.”
This is important. If you can’t trust what you read, or hear, or see, how can you use the information to develop a more precise world view? Of course, you should always come at every addition to your world view by several different angles. It is certainly easy to take Chris Cuomo’s opinion on the facts of the day. He is, after all, the most respected name in news. How could he possibly mislead you? So you could blithely go through life listening to old Chris and Don Lemon, and you would never know even the most basic truths of the world around you. But you know that they are lying. You know this because others are checking on them and calling out their lies.
So now you know that CNN lies. But you didn’t know that a few years ago. Once you find out that CNN lies, you can never trust them ever again. The reason you can never trust them is that you will never be able to tell when they are lying and when they are telling the truth, so your default position has to be that if they lied once, they most certainly will lie again. This is what makes lying so pernicious. Once the trust is violated, it is violated for all time to come. The liar can never recover the trust fully.
And when you finally admit that you are being lied to, you can start to reconstruct your world view on a firmer footing, if there is firmer footing available to you. You never should accept anything that anyone tells you as gospel. Always check things out for yourself. If you hear Jordan Peterson saying something and you don’t like what he said, you are going to have to search his own web site to see if in fact he did say it, or somebody used Not Jordan Peterson to manufacture his voice. And this makes the internet useless. It doesn’t just open up a world of trolling kids in their mothers basement. This basic dishonesty destroys the very fabric of society by making communications and discussion impossible. It allows deceit in articles and comments. It makes a farce of news (something that msm has already accomplished.) And it gives you nothing to hold on to. No foundational truth.
One has to ask…is the purpose of this technology to deceive? What possible use could activities such as this serve? I mean sure, you could have Carrie Fisher playing Leah forever, and you would never know that she was dead. But it’s far worse when you realize that you could have Donald Trump playing president forever – and you would never know that he was dead either. Once you can’t trust what you see or hear then communications becomes meaningless.
Without meaningful communications your world instantly becomes incredibly small and it stops growing.
I just could not help this. Blame it all on my roots….I grew up barefoot in a bog.
And seriously.. this is funny.
Take a joke.
you could’ve replaced cnn with nasa.
you can accept the gift of salvation offered through Jesus which can then lead to opened eyes, opened ears, and a renewed mind which will be brought about by reading the Word of God, which is living and active.
have a good day rob.
How very well said!
And you think you can trust what is written in the Bible? It may have started as the Word of God, but that was thousands of years ago. Now significant parts of it have been rewritten by the Powers That Be to promote their agenda. Don’t trust anything you can’t see with your own eyes and hear with your own ears and even then verify.
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
E.d….for your own sake.
Get. Out. Now.
You are in the HR/(EC* M G*??) POST of flame and shame.
We apologize for mark’s attempt to carry on debate with annie here. It does get confusing
Maggie, you are the one confusing the issue. If you would just shut up every one could talk peacefully.
cz, HR is a devout atheist but carry on.
It is up to every individual to keep his Bull Shit detector honed and exercised.
I do not think that “And this (deepfakes, lying, deceit as an intended effect) makes the internet useless… This basic dishonesty destroys the very fabric of society by making communications and discussion impossible. It allows deceit in articles and comments. It makes a farce of news”. The internet is nothing but an effective medium of communication. It is still the same old lying, deceitful humans using it.
When the printing press was invented, don’t you suppose that deceit, propaganda, and general bullshit were large components of the material printed? When radio and television came along, weren’t they put to use brainwashing people to smoke Lucky Strikes, or drink Coke, eat chips, or buy war bonds or some such deceitful thing??
Nope, the Internet is nothing new, nor are deepfakes. We may be lazier and more gullible, with faith in nothing, and that includes the transcendent reality of an eternal and just God, but the lies we are told just look a bit nicer, and move a bit faster.
No substitute for common sense and a knowledge of history.
Um, what he is saying implies we can’t trust written history either…
Mix in a heavy portion of discernment plus cross referenced mutiple sources and footnotes, and you have a historical truth ‘cocktale’…every pun intended.
(Unless they are are in on it!)
History is written by the winner. Would be interesting to see how the views of the loser differ, but it is not always something you can find.
Annie,
I think it is more: ‘History is taught by the winners’ (forget public schools and collage) you can find the true history with discernment plus cross referenced multiple sources and real footnotes.
Here is an example, if you haven’t read it (the footnotes are massive and interconnected) it will give you the real history for the last 200 years.
One possible example does not refute “not always something you can find”. Lots and lots of footnotes does not always equate to truth.
Have you read the book?
Care to debate anything…I mean anything in it?
Pick a footnoted point you think is not true.
I love a good respectful debate.
Good for you. You changed directions by taking a general comment and twisting it to a specific of your choosing. Good for me. I choose not to play your games.
Annie,
You said: “History is written by the winner. Would be interesting to see how the views of the loser differ, but it is not always something you can find.”
Above is the true version written about the loser UNCLE SAM. I found it for you!
Why so defensive? I wasn’t playing a game, I was trying to engage you. That goes on a lot here.
I was polite and respectfull and really believe this paticular book is amazing (read it twice and constantly re-reading sections) and it provides true written history, that most Normies don’t realize and is not taught, to another point.
Check it out if interested and let me know your thoughts…and or debunk/debate it.
Or you can also just be pissy?
This is insanobot post. No real discussion can happen on an insanobot post directed at me.
I am an obsession.
It is you who are insane. The intelligent discussion happened days ago when you weren’t looking. Once the useful life of the post had passed I egged you on to prove a point and you rose to the bait like a big mouthed bass to a popper. By keeping you on this little rant, that nobody will read, I have kept you occupied so people who are not insane can express their opinions on important topics that you can neither understand nor provide thoughtful comment upon. You can only do what you are doing here, so have a field day. Create your little fake friends. Post you little fake pictures. And leave the rest of the blog to the people who don’t lie with every breath.
And you are a lair. You lie about everything. You lie when you don’t need to. No wonder your fake child has divorced himself from you. He is sick of the lies too. So are all of the people who comment and contribute to this blog. I am not speaking for them, this is my own observation, but let’s face it, once they realized your tactics they stopped supporting you. Not one person has commented in this little shit fest in your support save for the fake people that you created to support your lies.
So your move dude. How about you take a moment to collect yourself and come back a better human being.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!!
Your “schtick” isn’t even remotely funny, or witty, or even annoying. It’s just stupid (times 1,000,000).
What say you go suck some moose-cock?
And yet you are the one with the dart in his neck.
I hope if you want more information about Veteran Admin stuff, you get my email.
As for the other, I may have frightened some of an old British visitor’s friends with reminders about a clandestine email exchange on proton mail I helped coordinate..
The enraged calls to ban me were not from HR. A strange linkage seemed possible, then plausible
So, I’d be happy to help answer questions in private correspondence.
My time commenting here is limited to confining this flame war from spreading. We try to clean up our own mess.
Seriously, EC? Now that you mention it, I haven’t seen Yo comment in a while? That would be sad, if true. I hope it is because he is busy and not because he was driven away.
My family issues are keeping me from commenting much lately but I am still lurking.
I hadn’t noticed either until Ecoli Comrade mentioned it. He said T4C is a notable absentee also.
What part of “may have” do you not understand?
Hey, Stuck, remember the old TBP debates? I bet none of them ever included logic device – “your crazy” or “you can’t prove that”.
I probably understood none of it. I am under great emotional distress.
As I sit here Ms. Freud is have THIRTEEN TEETH removed!!! I am NOT kidding, amigo. I dropped her off an hour ago … will be leaving after this post.
In her entire life she’s had ONE wisdom tooth removed. I hope she’s not in any pain.
In order to get the heart surgery scheduled the cardiologist said we first need a “Dental Clearance”. Apparently dental issues can royally fuck up a heart surgery.
We thought “no big deal”. Ms Freud has always taked good care of her teeth … aaaand she wasn’t experiencing any issues with any of her teeth. Ho Lee Fuk, were we ever SHOCKED to discover she has gum disease …. (which could have contributed to her heart issues, as well as the cognitive issues.)
She was scared going in. But, I told her teeth can be replaced, either with partial dentures or dental implants … hearts and brains can’t be so easily replaced.
Always something …
Gotta run ….
stepping boldly…with whispered prayers…
Why wouldn’t you use your real name on that lovely response. And you used the wrong picture again. Really maggie all of that alcohol consumption is starting to show.
Obviously she has taken good care of the choppers, most folks around (the base) here get dentures before turning 60. I was lucky to have gum disease at a young age so that the gum and dental care has spared me the dentures for the moment.
My old boss tried to tell me that he did his own cleaning with his own pick set. He got a new set of choppers at age 55 or so ( we are the same age). White people can have pearly whites and still they have to get dentures, tooth coloration has nothing to do with it.
I mentioned the connection between gum health and heart health a long time ago. I’m glad you mention it now. I hope your honey doesn’t get depressed. It can be a shock along with the ordeal.
Well, we finally hear from the peanut section with his typical eloquence. I am glad to see that you, stucky, have finally stood up and got some balls. Being cowardly does not become you. If you want to test yourself, feel free. If you want to support the insanity that is maggie and her menagerie of pet names, fell free. You won’t hurt my feelings. If it makes you feel more like a man to use big words like moose cock, go right ahead. I am sure that you can see how it elevates the conversation.
Hahahahahahaha. Even you had to laugh while you wrote those words.
But he is not too much of a man to be driven away by maggie’s constant trolling. Yo has a particular point of view. One that is not popular with the antifa set that maggie is a member of. But he would never leave because I was mean to maggie. That is so stupid a thought that it doesn’t bear analysis.
Now he could leave because he realized that all the people that he was talking to were one mental patient confined to her hovel. Once you finally tumble to that realization you will have a tough battle to face with your own conscience. Do you continue to write to such a small actual audience, or do you to find a better place to pedal you writing. It’s a hard choice that we all must make.
Well you suck maggies cock, and she looks like a moose.
Here you go Annie
“Um, what he is saying implies we can’t trust written history either…”
WRITTEN HISTORY YOU CAN TRUST!
Pride, greed, and power have driven men to do the unthinkable? Including selling out their nations and unsuspected citizens to the most corrupt and destructive? Invisible? Global leaders on Earth. But how did this happen on American soil? How did the downfall begin and who were the predators that the? Land of the free and home of the brave? Fell victim to? And is all hope lost?
This book captures details of the last 200 years of American history that mainstream media does not want you to know. It dissects the? Legalized? System of the private central banks that has gone unchecked, and delivers gut-wrenching truths about the real domestic and foreign enemies of the United States. With over 1000 footnotes and quotes from former presidents, prime ministers, and state officials, it will equip you with the facts that the elites have covered up for centuries and empower you to stand up for the truth.
Always felt is should be called: ‘Uncommon Common Sense’ because it is so uncommon?
Common Sense should be more common.
It may not be as hopeless as you think. I’ve read that there are relatively simple technologies that can identify so-called deep fakes. (e.g., https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/new-technology-helps-media-detect-deepfakes) Of course, there will be better tech coming to produce the fakes, but then better methods will be devised to detect it. It may be a matter of filtering videos/audios through the appropriate tech to verify their authenticity.
“…most of us already find the world as it is to be quite difficult to keep up with.”
“Nothing in your world has any truth behind it.”
Interesting autobiography HR.
I think Fredo sucks Don Lemons dick after anal sex.
I have NEVER heard anything so nasty.
You yourself wrote things far worse about me.
What, pray tell were they. Have a standing bet that you will call yourself bad names out loud.
I got it, old pal…where is Chico?
Maggie we all know that paula is a construct of your fevered mind. If you insist on carrying on the charade, I can only thank you for the inflated comment count. Of course, we all know that the comment count means nothing as you are going to be the only one talking to yourself and your made up friends, but I appreciate the support none the less.
Maggie is a construct of your feverish mind, Hollywood. What proof do you have that she exists?
Who is Chico?
A typo.
We got this vindictive POS to 100. You, Mags and two other Innocents who wondered in not realizing it was a party just for Maggie. And me.
And EC is bringing tea
Now everyone knows.
Wanna play some music for me?
All you are doing is inflating the comment count. Every time I throw something at you you just go off. It is well worth the effort to keep your slimy fingers off the other posts. And nobody is reading any of this anyway.
I will just think it.
BIRD
You used the wrong thumbnail again. Come on maggie. Your deceit is falling apart. Perhaps you are just using too many fake names and you are getting them confused. But you admitted that speedy was one of the three aliases that you use and then you stuck paula’s face on it. And you have the balls to suggest that you don’t lie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqj8lJ9-E2M
HR doesn’t ‘understand what life is like in the singularity… he doesn’t understand how humanity is destined to become we.
HR… I am very cognizant of which image will attach to which moniker. And, when it will be random.
Do your own homework.
[Damn number crunchers.]
[] denotes an “aside” comment, spoken as if off screen.
When you’ve been relegated to narrating a two-bit flame war to cover for the adults having a real debate, it takes a bit of creative license to make it worth doing.
This, by the way, was Maggie’s first “real” comment on the post, for those who have lost track. You will notice her continued civil tone.
maggie, you posted as paula. It isn’t a real comment and it isn’t from you unless you are paula, which you are. Please stop with the drinking. You are slipping further and further into a delusional state that is going to end up with you either dead at your piano or in a ditch in your car, if you are still allowed to drive.
What is it that was in that empty bottle? And should you be pounding beers when you are medicated?
https://vimeo.com/288812343
HR wrote,
And that touches upon something I’ve been thinking about it as well: As Clownworld progresses deeper and deeper into neo-Luciferian madness, I could foresee dishonest “agents” stealing passwords, and online identities, in order to create confusion and chaos.
Next month marks the three year anniversary of my blog where I’ve written well over 100 articles – and any neutral party reading them will see all of them have remarkable consistency (and accuracy).
I’m a happy guy with zero suicidal thoughts and zero interest in child porn. Right now I am like Popeye umpiring a baseball game: I y’am what I y’am and I calls ’em likes I sees ’em.
Therefore, if anything in the future doesn’t pass the “sniff-test” – buyer beware.
In the meantime, I definitely will remain accessible.
I’m located a good amount of distance from the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, north of Mexico, but south of Canada. My place is situated exactly between my neighbors to the north and my neighbors to the South, but east of the cornfield and west of the nearest road. In fact, our driveway connects right to the road.
Can’t miss it. Stop by sometime. ?
Hi, neighbor…
“And that touches upon something I’ve been thinking about it as well: As Clownworld progresses deeper and deeper into neo-Luciferian madness, I could foresee dishonest “agents” stealing passwords, and online identities, in order to create confusion and chaos.”
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-on a scale like never before !
I think there is value in earnest, honest debate. I believe honest debate can occur in a variety of forums, both online and in person. But, the value of comedy and/or satire to point out irony or hilarity is also a proven asset to humanity.
Take Stucky’s recent global warning post. It was comical enough to be true in a world where a high-profile celebrity sleezeball died in some secretive, unbelievable, yet official suicide. I read between the lines in the title and interpreted it thus: Fine, Epstein committed suicide while on suicide watch and I’m sweating to death in a snowstorm. (But, I think I read Stuckenese as well as most oldsters around here, having been attracted to his brutish charm from the first time I saw him and studied his character a bit.)
I always have viewed TBP as something of a storyboard, with character development, plot twists, raising of stakes (banning old Finnegan!), scenery and setbacks, virtue and vice (the ads! the ads!), but mostly I have recognized the stubborn core of principle upon which Admin (Quinn) has decided to stand.
People do indeed come here for truth, HR. But, as you point out, the truth is easy to bend to the will of those entrusted to carry it.
That is why some of us choose to bend to another Will and subscribe to the ideals enshrined in the only Truth that can ever set anyone free from any sort of tyranny.
I have made an earnest effort to think about your essay. I think most of the readers at TBP have enough discernment to grasp when a post is sincere, but I will admit that Stucky was born a flimflam man. My father would have liked him, but would have disapproved of his nasty mouth. (And, guess what? Soap doesn’t taste all that bad.)
There is also value in parody and satire, as you well know.
We are both smart people with thoughts worth sharing.
Let’s stop the stupid.
Full Disclosure:
Very nice post, MG
ordo ab chao
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- just thought I’d be a turd !
Yes indeed, you have made my point very well, and not been a turd at all. You realize that none of us can possibly believe anything that we read. And to have maggie proselytize on truth is the height of irony.
Just in case y’all aren’t aware what he did there, “I didn’t say that.” What ec as Captain Chaos is pointing out is that any words can be placed in anyone’s mouth and if you personally don’t catch it, the impression of the deceiver is all that is left. You can’t know if it is indeed Captain Chaos, or EC, or for that matter maggie. Once your faith in what you are reading/hearing/seeing has been destroyed it can never be fully regained.
And this, in the end, might be the reason that these deep fake strategies have been developed. They are designed to stop you from communicating. Just like maggies rambling and ec’s personal attacks, these types of strategies are intentionally directed at driving you to your fridge for another beer and basically to get you to shut up.
Just in case you don’t know it, what you see in the above comment is actually a very sophisticated hack of Jim’s blog. The hacker has taken over my pen name, and you can’t tell that he has done it. Maggie does not posses the skills to do something like this so she changes letters in the name to make it look like the name that she is attacking, but this, this is next level stuff. It shows that some of us are not as we appear. It shows that Jim is under attack by competent forces and that the efforts of these people, whoever they may be, are not well meaning. They act with bad intent.
Hollywood…
I don’t know about all that hacking stuff, but the comment was from me……ordo, which is exactly why I did it. As I am typing this comment, the “name, email, and website” blocks are all empty. If I just hit ‘post comment’, it will post as anonymous, without me even having to put my email address in. Sometimes, when visiting this site, my ‘ordo ab chao’ moniker and email address are already displayed, and my ‘ordo’ name posts accordingly.
As I pulled this little shenanigan, I too, had thoughts about good ole EC, but I find his posts the same as I do so many others……interesting to say the very least.
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-
I will say, HR, that you do indeed post some interesting subjects. The deception you are concerned (rightfully so) with, is an absolute guarantee, and one that has been purposefully perpetrated on the ‘people’……it comes from the Father of all Lies, and it is to that entity this nation was conceived under….
I do not mean to make light of what you say. With CGI, AI, photoshop…..etc, along with scientific advances in genealogy, (transhumanism) you will become hard pressed to believe what you see with your own eyes.Have you ever heard of Project Bluebeam ?
The esoteric plan is well under way, and I think the chaos will continue to build until the final deception of Bluebeam……and wallah !……a new ‘order for the ages’, where gods once again co-mingle with men.
I am now going to type in my moniker, and email address. Please contact Mr. Quinn, and ask him if these two posts don’t come from the same email…
Ordie…while I have played in the email address playground and have even given a shot at doppling a time or two years ago when it was in Vogue here, for the most if I comment Anon or incognito, it is to avoid distraction here.
I dumped Maggie as a login name for personal reasons, not identity. The email issue does intrigue people who hack. However the ability of people to comment without attribution is valuable.
As for the photos? When I do “land” on an image, I remember the email
The images are attached to WordPress, which hosts the site.
For those who do not realize it, it costs real Fiat dollars to have.some Man With No Name put up a decent firewall that can filter spam (botz) without screening content. The skills are not difficult but the take time ànd patient tedious work to acquire.
That is a JOB. And a dilemma. How to keep out the jokers and the tokers?
You cannot until it is closing time.
The site could become subscription, but that only keeps those rare glimmers of thought out. Those with blinding opinions will pay the fee.
I won’t subscribe but have sent some dollars. Skin in the Game.
That is Earnest interest and I hope most of you put a check or money order in the mail for this platform ASAP.
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Seriously HR, (Jane u as Not Said), I am M G, and a few other Nicknames I use from time to time.
The filthy language is from too many long flights with nasty mouthed crewdogs. Being one of the guys is a great defense when I was young and wanted to avoid sexual attention. As you know, I not squeamish about much.
Sometimes I use other monikers so what? The people to whom I speak either see it and respond or not. Life goes on. Neverending.
The Federalist letters and Anti-Federalist letters were written anonymously, at least in part.
Ideas need space to develop. Sometimes a little wandering in darkness helps clear thoughts
Not said was “Jane, you stupid…” but I abstained. Galations 5:23… and self-control.
In a teasing sort of tone.
MG…
I was just messin with Hollywood a little. I’ve read the back-n-forths, and have trouble trying to figure who’s yankin a chain and who’s serious…..the nature of this internet game, I guess.
I consider a whole lot of people that frequent this place go back a long time, some have met each other personally and have long established ‘relationships’.
As far as Hollywood goes, I think he displays his honest opinions/interpretations/ideologies without reservation, and simply expects the same in return. I agree with a whole lot of what he has to say, I just can’t understand how well educated scientific types can’t see the extra-ordinary set of circumstances that are coming together…….
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-
@Hollywood, I wasn’t very clear in my reference to Project Blue Beam in my response to you earlier. Whether Blue Beam is real (and I think the scientific capabilities are available) or just another theory, I maintain that those directing the course of this world have a goal to return to the Golden Age, where gods once again co-mingle with men: to become as a god.
My B.S. provided the foundation to ‘see’ the influences of an ‘unseen’ world on the machinations of the ‘seen’ world……
All good Ordie.
My phone had a six fingered email.
That really is me. I am a cowgirl of sorts.
Let’s face it maggie. You live in a fantasy world populated by daemons of your own construction and operating on rules that you make up day by day. The only constant that you can offer is your reliance on deceit. It is your password to the outside world. It is the source of your self image and it is the bulwark behind which you hide.
For you to comment so vociferously on a post that was clearly aimed at you simply shows that you are aware of what you do. Not only are you aware, but you offer excuses. Well, I don’t see that anybody save for yourself is at all interested in the lies that you have to offer. I am not suggesting that you stop offering them. Freedom of speech means freedom for all speech. Even your lies. It is on the rest of us to slash our way through the jungle in your mind and as there is no alternative, we will just have to continue with the slashing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVtZkyBTabQ
You amaze.
For you to comment so vociferously on a post that was clearly aimed at you …
There we have the smoking gun. Robbo is abusing his posting rights to pursue a personal vendetta.
No, you are abusing the lying rights to post under a false name maggie. Dozens of false names in this threat alone. How are we to believe anything that you write when you are so blatantly lying with this one thing alone…your name.
As it says in the original post. Your activities are crafted only to deceive. Therefor you are deceitful, and a lair. It doesn’t really matter what name you use. Sooner of later everyone will think of you as dishonest and unfortunately for you later is now.
Yeah, I know it was you. That’s why I said it was a perfect comment. It made the point precisely. I emailed Jim and he told me that indeed it was you, and then we had to wander off to the farmers market and a lovely lunch.
No worries. Jim tells me that anybody can use any name that they like, only the icon is assigned to the email address. I did once try to use a different name and got so confused that I quickly gave it up. For me, I will gladly trade barbs with truthful people all day long…taking as good as I can give, but I have trouble when deceit enters the picture. It is only my opinion, but I suspect that most of us feel the same way.
This is why many of us are so uncomfortable with how Trump has played his hand. Many feel betrayed. We can not see how his strategy plays into the drain the swamp or bring home the troops statements from his campaign. But he can’t tell you what his strategy is or the swamp will step in and block it. One might be tempted to suggest the old mushroom analogy but I liken it more to asking 3rd gear in a 7 speed transmission to comment on the intentions of the guy with his foot on the accelerator.
“I don’t know shit – all I can do is spin around and hold up under the strain because if I break even one tooth the whole thing grinds to a halt and I get pitched into the trash.”
I did once try to use a different name and got so confused that I quickly gave it up.
Well, hell, if you were honest for 25 years and only once did you leave the gun, I mean, use a fake moniker…
Let’s not burden Admin with HR’s paranoid delusions. His article was good and Maggie followed through. There is no need to belabor the point.
The problem is that HR is seeing some things that certainly support a constant state of paranoia but we mustn’t make that a career or surely our minds will snap.
Your mind snapped a long time ago.
Maggie, thank you for all of your supportive comments. I appreciate them no matter whose name they appear under. And I am in awe at your facility with the naming conventions of TBP. Even Jim doesn’t understand how it works but you fly from name to name with the ease of a dead bunny.
Really?
Is that how it is done?
You dim witted moron. You lie in your response. How can you be so monumentally stupid. Are you so lacking in self awareness that you can’t see that you are constantly lying? Are you so incomprehensibly stupid that you can’t tell that you no longer have any supporters. They have all left you. Even EC is joking about your air farce experience.
How do you muster the brain power to turn on a computer in the morning? Are you even capable of daily hygiene?
…red rope hanging from a tampon? Really? Is that the best you have?
No. It is the best you have.
I wouldn’t joke about Maggie’s AF experience, that is a canard.
Has been real.
I did get to have normal conversation with VV before Big Brother showed.
I also notice absentees.
Yes maggie, your air farce experience is a canard. The definition of which is
a false or unfounded report or story
So you are admitting that your stories about your air farce experience have all been a canard. Thank you for supporting me in this comment stream.
In space, no one can hear you scream, Robbie.
That, of course, is one reason for the old pet name which I used to the dismay of my son, who read something I thought was funny one day and discovered TBP and me. Oops.
It wasn’t the first time I’ve embarassed him. Or myself.
I tried Ordie.
Galations 5:23.
Voiciferous?
Again, HR… Let’s stop the STUPID..
Unfortunately, that is a talent that you do not possess. If you could stop the stupid any time you wanted you would have done a long time ago and you might have saved a few of those whom you have deceived over the years. Now, you no longer have that option. You have driven away all but your most dear comrade, and he mocks you as well. The rest of us just ignore you. You have become irrelevant.
Good. Then ignore my post later tonight. I plan to just tell a nice story a nice lady told me.
Wife of a US Veteran of Korea with a funny story. Irrelevant. Ignore it. Let it fade away, like old soldiers are supposed to do.
I finally had time to try the site HR posted and will post the result in a link below that may, or may not, work here on this thread. Again, these are words I typed but sound as if Jordan Peterson is saying them.
It’s uncanny. And, obviously, it will very likely NOT end well.
When I visited Oklahoma and my old friend explained to me what sort of threats all of us face, I realized the world is shifting rapidly.
I think there is a Bible verse somewhere about no one being able to discern the darkness for the light? Or was it day from night?
Ah, tadpole… the world has gone mad.
And all my rowdy friends have settled down.
The. Truth. Does. Not. Exist!!
The. Truth. Does. Exist. It is just difficult to find and even more difficult to explain to others. Perhaps one could legitimately say that “Your truth does not exist…for me.” To take the stance that you propose is I believe called relativism.
Sorry, the link didn’t copy through.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativism
And this relativistic attitude is the one that allows for communism, antifa, and the Frankfurt School.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School
Anon was I. Good article Rob. I like how you contribute to the site.
Thanks DS.
Do you realize I am the person once known here as Maggie, friend and sometimes foe to El Coyote? Who made the mistake of talking trash about Indians in front of badass Billy, who chewed my ass off.
I survived because Stucky came to my rescue. There was a CODE of sorts and the big dogs tolerated me. I put a couple decent posts up but as EC knows, we are pointers, of aorts seeking good writers to read and mess with. It was to invite discussion and a certain tadpole knows what I am saying.
Now…I got sick. I think I asked for prayer. I met you.
Skip to now.
I am not EC or MC or Mygirl. Not everyone who disses you is me.
Occasionally I can crank out things worth writing for real. That is the only te I post. I have a Veterans Day project underway. Months away.
But I am paying attention from a different point of view. My perception reflects that viewpoint.
Yes, comments might be shared without name, but if opinions are not to your interest do not proceed to read them, especially if mine.
As for Anon comments, I will only be Anon in the latest post list.
I will reciprocate and comment civilly or not at all
I take it that is agreement?
You promise civility, but can not deliver. You promise to comment civily or not at all and yet you prattle on – endlessly lying. No one is even remotely confused by your deceit. I support your right to lying. Free speech must be free to all, even those who lie. But we don’t have to believe you. That is our choice. You can feel free to make your own choice.
What are you referring to please?
What endless lying do you refer to.?
I believe I will stand on my civil agreement and have avoided.any retort beyond the civil regarding you.
What discussion have I engaged in of which you question its veracity?
Please enlighten us since you are now the “truth” monitor jere at TBP.
I am sure JQ gives exrra thnmbs up for that. Or not.
I like speedy and everyone knows.
Maggie, you can no longer continue to lie with impunity. You can lie all you want and you know when you are lying, but we no longer believe that what you are saying is true. Your reputation is shot. Your lies exposed. You know this and yet you continue to prattle on. The very first comment on this article was a lie. You admitted it. Most of the comments that you make on all of the posts are lies. You admit it. Your foul mouthed responses expose your inability. You can not be civil. You can only lie. You made this bed…now lie in it. (Yes that was intentional.)
You are one strange dude.
Seriously, if you ARE a dude and not a bot!
Galations 5:23.
And I await your willingness to present specific lies. You say my first comment.
Link it. Do you realize you are barking up a really bitchy tree?
You antifa lying communist. You and your comrade will be the first to face the camps once your glorious revolution is accomplished. You are too stupid to be of any use except as an example for the ultimate power of the communist dictatorship that you so willingly called down upon us all.
How can you be so banal as to lie in the very comment that you use to cry out that you have been wronged. You have not been wronged. You have been exposed. Your lies no longer impress anybody. Your only red rope was on the end of a week old tampon. Your barren loins have birthed only cats and, if we are to believe you, bunnies which you toss onto the fire in your back yard.
You aren’t even original. You keep puking up the same old tired platitudes and when nobody listen to you you throw in a random bible verse or two in hopes that one of the christians will support you. Well, it would appear that they don’t want to have anything to do with you either. All have abandoned you. So you can, if you like, continue with your antifa, communist, trolling, or you can stop it and join in the conversation like an adult. I realize that you are likely not an adult, but we would all welcome your entry into adulthood. It is, of course, up to you. I know that you cruise the comment stream looking for posts that you can troll. I threw these comments up just to see if you would bite. I mean, wtf, of course you would bite. What else do you have to do in this whole wide world except to troll TBP.
Well, we can’t stop you so if you get paid by the trolling then you can just continue, even though you have lost all of your support. If, however, you are paid to be effective, well I am afraid those days are over. Your comrades are not likely to want to continue to pay you for trolling that has no effect. Either way, it is your choice. If you remain civil, something that you have never shown once that you can do, then you will be left alone. If you wish to wallow in your lies and deceit, then you will be called out on it.
Yeah, life’s a bitch some times, as you have come to learn. Nobody is even remotely interested in your proof. We all see you as a liar.
When you say “we” are you talking about you and the little mice in your pocket? Is your name Willard?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02XKLm6pItA
By the way, I never uploaded this one, but here it is… that mother opossum chewed a hole in her gut to free her unborn babies.
That was gruesome, but in a kill or have your property (chickens) killed/stolen situation, you have to kill.
The rabbit was my Queen, Shirley Godbunny. I built her a funeral pyre instead of tossing her old carcass to predators. She deserved the respect.
That’s my “hovel” in the background.
Keep at it. The hole you are digging is just getting deeper.
The Abyss is deep…
No you stupid hag. I am talking about all of those people who used to support you and now no longer do. You must have noticed…well no, I supposed you might have missed it.
I do indeed notice. I notice the donations to the site have slowed and that concerns me. I decided to stop with the nonsense that came to the site during a strange time for many of us.
I will leave it at that except to say that I do not lie. I am kind of like old Tom Joad. I see injustice and I call it.
You, as my father, a decorated former POW of World War II and who would call you a BIRD and mean it, are IT.
What, exactly, in your mind, qualifies me to be a “lying antifa communist” and please elucidate your wonderfully intricate and intriguing logic so all my friends in low places can share it with their veteran friends.
Well, the hundreds of spam comments that you spewed upon this post is one, but the best one is the very first lie that you posted. The very first lie on the comment stream. Are you too stupid to understand that lying is lying? Are you too stupid to remember your comments using my name with foul words attached. Are you actually that forgetful in your dotage? Are you too stupid to actually look at the picture that you post and realize that there are no windows in that plane? Are you so insane that you actually think that posting a picture of somebody (not you) in a flight suit on visitors day at some random airbase is proof that you yourself ever got onto an actual airplane. God help us if you ever flew on one single air farce flight.
I suggest that you share your distress with all of your imaginary friends and then you can make up another fifty comments to further bloat my post comment count.
I reiterate, repeat, and to err on the side of clarity…
What I said above is all true.
I not only can prove my USAF background, several others here also know that is true.
The FACT YOU do not shows how lazy engineers are about homework.
I believe you are an engineer. I know an anal retentive linear thinker when I see one. My son is one. He has ass burgers according to a medical company where he codes stuff for a big project which his team codes stuff for.
I only use the odd names to make an innocent comment without your voyeuristic tendency.
EC adores me. We are like Sonny and Cher.
Especially now that I am Granny Mags to a Cherokee tribe member.
Deal with it.
You are a pitiful old bag. And I feel sorry for you.
https://youtu.be/o_Fbwh384WQ?t=87
I like this one… not only does it have a picture of ME in my Jet Jammies at an airshow at either the Air Force Academy OR at Andrews, when I was on the dog and pony show for VIPs and stuff…
It also has images of my really awesome kid who could fly through the air after thousands of dollars worth of lessons from Grand Master Won!
Are you that stupid? Who cares about random pictures that you post. You prove nothing. Nobody believe you. I realize that you must be horribly frustrated, but who cares. You brought this upon yourself.
By the way, here is a picture of me standing on the moon.
STOP THE LYING, ROB. You never went to the moon, you freaking nut job.
You can’t prove that can you maggie?
https://youtu.be/1qlK9TJvuSk
Did you notice the WINDOWS in the E-3 AWACS plane behind me?
Did you notice the windows in the lunar lander?
Maggie, I may not adore you but
You must have been looking out the windows of the lunar lander.
Now you are catching on.
Hollywood, I’ll play….as long as this keyboard seems to be working.
Truth.
I believe there are many truths….including what you reference when applying ‘relativism’ to the growth of Antifa, etc..(interesting how spell check auto capitalizes)
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- I believe there is only one Truth, and His name is jesus (interesting how ‘jesus’ is only underlined, and not automatically capitalized ?)
What ‘truth’ do you mean?
“I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life” – Jesus
Anony Mous…..
haha…not till it’s on TV ! If Fredo Cuomo says it’s so !
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum-
Hey Ordie?
Wanna play?
I don’t blame you. Me, either.
Wow, that’s some great english ya got going on there. As I recall, in your post about natural food hoaxes, you mentioned that you need to get to bed early and get a good nights sleep. In as much as it is going on 8pm, you are probably in bed. Maybe those old fingers will work better in the morning.
Here’s wishing you the best.
Notice the cockpit windows at 1:06. The windows in the doors and overwing hatches at 1:37, all with windows.
Two rear doors, both of which I, as the onboard radar tech and firefighter, opened upon landing after removing the safety slide strap and looking out, guess what?
The window to verify it clear to the Flight Engineer.
Two lower lobe cargo doors. All with peep WINDOWS.
Every single AWACS plane has windows. NOT all passenger windows, but there are windows.
Sure maggie. And my lunar lander had windows too. So I flew for six years in the Navy and we would never have opened the door upon landing and we would never have looked out that open door. That’s just a stupid thing to say. And I flew in a plane that had real windows because we were looking at boats and subs. You clearly don’t know that the on-board radar tech and the fire fighter, which wouldn’t have been on board, are two separate classifications and would never be the same person. The reason that you don’t know that is that you were never in the AF. Nothing that you spout indicates that you have any knowledge of flight procedures. You know nothing about security clearances and passwords. You could not have gotten into the military without that knowledge and you most certainly could not fly on a plane full of classified hardware without the clearances and knowledge of how security protocols were used. And you demonstrate over and over again that you know nothing about security.
You seem to have no knowledge about military life in general and certainly no knowledge about security protocols that you would need to have to have done what you claim to have done. Ergo…you are lying. So why would you lie? What possible reason could you have for fabricating a back story that nobody cares about and now nobody believes except for one of two reasons. Either you are a troll, paid to read off a script handed to you, or you are a loony old bag living with her cats and bunnies. I prefer to believe the former but wouldn’t be surprised if the later were true. Most here seem to feel that you are loony toons. I mean let’s face it, it is quite loony toony to say that you had access to the flight deck windows, except of course on visitors day. That was probably the only time you ever set foot on a plane and that would explain why you would assume that an E3 had windows. But I never attribute to stupidity what can be ascribed to malice and you have demonstrated nothing but malice to the poor folks here at TBP.
By the way, I realize that you won’t be able to recall this, but this whole window thing started because you claimed that you used to look out the windows of an E3 in flight. Not on the deck. Not while taxiing. In the air. So maybe you went up to the flight deck and bothered the pilots, or maybe you had time to wander around the plane while everyone else was busy doing air force things like looking for airplanes on that big radar that they carried around.
Nothing you say makes any sense. So we all celebrate your freedom to say it, but don’t ask us to believe it. Oh, and thanks for the comment count.
Why, you looney tune with season tickets to La La Land, you are welcome.
I hope you hit a hundred very soon and blast off to the moon.
Windows… windows… windows…
Upon being stopped and chalked, the Flight engineers called for “doors, slides and lights.”
That meant the radar tech in the back was to get up and walk to the rear, opening the back door, placing the safety strap in place. Up front, the communication technician, did the same with the front door and safety slide strap.
Someone has to open the door. Moron.
You are a boor.
Sure you did. And since you were not needed on the flight did you also serve coffee to the real crew? I guess your proudest hour was opening that door. Well, that and your fifty foot cord. Still, you fail to address your appalling lack of knowledge about security procedures and your lack of knowledge about the crew compliment on that plane. Nothing that you have said here, not one single picture that you have shown us, has done anything but reinforce our belief that you have made up your entire air farce career. If you were in the air farce, and believe me, the rest of us would not be all that impressed as the air farce was mostly the pussies, you most likely spent your entire time behind a desk filing reports and issuing pay checks.
What really grinds me is your efforts at stolen valor. You puff up your back story to impress people who never had to serve. All of us who did serve find that offensive. All of those who gave their lives doing the jobs that you never had to do, they would find what you are doing offensive as well.
But none of that matters. We all know that there is no way for us to find out how many false identities you have created. We can’t know how many times you have carried on conversations with yourself and your made up friends. We can only really know one thing, and that one thing is that you are a liar. You have lied repeatedly on this thread alone and on countless other threads. You have used your lying to disrupt the conversations of genuine people on TBP and now they all know that you are doing it on purpose, and you are doing it constantly. We can’t know for sure why you do it, but we can know that you are doing it. And since there is no way to know when you are lying and when you are telling the truth our default position must end up being that you are a liar, and not to be trusted.
So there. I don’t care about your stinking made up windows. I don’t care about your made up bunny murders or your retarded pictures be they fake or real. I don’t care about you and I don’t care about your made up persona. Nobody else seems to care either. And if you don’t like that then you can just go peddle your lies someplace else. Or you can stop lying and then I will stop following you around and calling you on your lies. Your choice. I have all day and unlike you, who obviously has never proof read a single thing, I proof read most of what I write. And I enjoy typing. You might as well be the target of my writing.
You obviously enjoy it.
I had a 50 foot cord, as did all INSTRUCTOR/EVALUATOR radar techs, who were also onboard firefighters.
I did indeed hang out in the flight deck on occasion. When the radar was fully operational and we were “on station,” all I did was monitor systems and do a bit of testing. Sometimes, I napped.
Oooh…102!
Literally nobody cares.
Is your post… I was trying to celebrate your accomplishment.
Sure you were maggie, cause that’s just the kinda gal you are. You are a giver. Give Give Give never take. How could I have been so misguided as to have the audacity to check on a few of your more outrageous lies. You and your girlfriend have just about run your course, but I will miss you when you go. Your delusional rants and your puppy dog ec are still good for some amusement, although as humor it is beginning to wear thin. You know, kinda like how Marc felt after he had insulted the old people. You can never get your audience back once you turn them against you.
Well, I have said it several times already but thank you once again for bloating the comment count on what was obviously a post that missed it’s mark. And I look forward to seeing your missive on moles. I am sure that it will be captivating and start a landslide of comments commending you on your writing skills.
Maggie, you used jujitsu on this guy and got your bonafides posted. Nice going.
It does not know. Shhhhhh….is best to keep it here. Trapped in its own excrement. Use your aromatic oils.
For the Greater Good.
’tis a brave and noble sacrifice we make…
Robbie jumped the shark a long time ago. Nobody noticed. Nobody cared.
You are nice to humor him, Maggito. Poor sad lonely creature that he is.
I doubt there is a Mrs. Hollywood.
You are all he has.
Well, pal… I want to get oof this shark tank. I got better things to do than sit around here babysitting the looney tune.
It sucks I can’t post, but I can’t post much until I get my little rocks planted and deliver a letter. I got in touch with all the folks I need/want to regarding paying tribute. It is well done.
The Yo thing may have been collateral damage. I think the proton email exchange with hollyo had slipped a mind. Even a double dog secret email exchange leaves a trail…
We can’t let you go, Pauli Girl, you know too much.
Why do these things go on for week after week, you can’t change HR’s mind about Mags? If this is entertaining the crowd, carry on.
About the only thing I can say in Robbie’s defense is – at least he’s not Iravani.
That is why I chose this post to use to carry on the beating. Maggie is too drunk to put up a good fight and now ec has slunk back in to take cheap shots, but other than him, if he is a him, it is only maggie railing against the storm. Nobody needs to be here on this thread. It was finished days ago. None of the usual suspects had all that much interest in it and maggie, in her drunken stupor, just had to go stomping around in her combat boots. So I waited a while, and then offered her a target. She, being barely able to type let alone walk, rose to the bait demonstrating all of her tired old antifa tricks that she has used so effectively in the past. Her girlfriend, ec, stayed out for a while, but all of that drunken crying must of woken her up and now she is back at it fawning over maggie like a love sick puppy.
As long as maggie insists on lying, I am afraid that I will insist on calling her on it. Since she can’t admit that she is deceitful, this is likely to go on for a while. But let’s face it, there are streams on this site with far more comments than this one, and quite a few with far worst mutterings than you have seen in this one. Unless, of course, you consider a drunken old man in a dress abusing a piano to be beyond the pale.
Anyway, if you are amused, enjoy the show. Popcorn can be purchased in the lobby.
I predicted you wouldn’t be here after July. Guess I was wrong.
You are always wrong.
You are right, I don’t measure up, my tiny pecker friend.
Am steering clear of bitter buddy battles built to bait a brainless beetle.
Too much Seuss?
Hollywood likes me and Maggie. He is simply playing a character, developing his story-telling chops for a novel he intends to write. He’s actually a fun guy.
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No. Do not delude yourself. You are the second most despicable person I have ever had the great luck to interact with. The only person I have ever met who is more of a waste of perfectly good air, is that drunkard maggie.
Maggie, you use the wrong pictures with every fake name now. Is that one your girlfriend ec? What happened to the ones with the worn out old hag hugging the dogs?