We have many here who are “Anti-Zionist” (generally meaning, against the policies of the state of Israel) who, in the next breath, will say they are not “Anti-Semite” (generally meaning, to be against Jews because they are Jews).
I know because I am one of them. As I’ve mentioned here before I have had plenty of Jewish friends throughout my life, even to this day. I love some of them yet, I generally can’t stand Israel. So, you see — “I DEFINITELY ain’t no anti-Semite!!” Seems to make sense, does it not?
In the article below, Dennis Prager says (in a nutshell) “you’re full of shit!!” To be anti-Zion is exactly the same as being anti-Semitic.
He makes a damned fine case.
We all might have to rethink what we’ve been told by Jojimbo, Zara, bb, and so on and so on (it’s a long list)!!! Really.
What if they MISLED us??
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Imagine a group of people who work to destroy Italy because, they claim, Italy’s origins are illegitimate. Imagine further that these people maintain that of all the countries in the world, only Italy is illegitimate. And then imagine that these people vigorously deny they are in any way anti-Italian. Would you believe them? Or would you dismiss their argument as not only dishonest but absurd?
Substitute “Israel” for “Italy” and “Jew” for “Italian” and you’ll understand the dishonesty and absurdity of the argument that one can be anti-Zionist but not anti-Semitic.
But that is precisely what anti-Zionists say. They argue that the very existence of a Jewish state in the geographic area known as Palestine — there was never an independent country known as Palestine — is illegitimate. They do not believe any other country in the world is illegitimate, no matter how bloody its origins. And then they get offended when they’re accused of being anti-Semitic.
How can they make this argument?
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First, they change the topic. They say it is unfair to charge those who merely “criticize” Israel with being anti-Semitic. But I don’t know anyone who does that. It’s a phony argument. Criticism of Israel is fine. Denying Israel’s right to exist is not. Anti-Zionism is not criticism of Israel. Anti-Zionism is opposition to Israel’s existence.
Zionism is the movement for the return of Jews to their ancient homeland, Israel. Over the past 3,000 years, there were two independent Jewish states located in what is called Israel. Both were destroyed by invaders, and no Arab or Muslim or any other independent country ever existed in that land, which was only named Palestine by the Romans in an attempt to remove all memory of the Jewish state they destroyed in the year A.D. 70.
Second, anti-Zionists claim they can’t be anti-Jewish because Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. That, too, is equally false. It is the same as saying that Italy has nothing to do with being Italian. Judaism has always consisted of three components: God, Torah and Israel. If Israel isn’t part of Judaism, neither is the Bible or God.
Third, anti-Zionists claim that Judaism is only a religion; therefore, Jews are only members of a religion, not a nation. But the Jews are called the “nation of Israel” repeatedly in the Bible. That is why there are irreligious, secular and even atheist Jews — because Jews are not only a religion. There are no atheist Christians because Christianity is only a religion.
Fourth, the anti-Zionists claim that Israel is illegitimate because it is racist. This is the charge Israel- and America-haters make against two of the least racist societies in the world. In the case of Israel, it is fraudulent because:
a) Half of Israel’s Jews are not white.
b) Anyone, of any race or ethnicity, can become a Jew.
c) One out of every 5 Israelis is not a Jew. And these Israeli citizens — mostly Arab Muslims — have the same rights as Jewish Israelis.
d) Israel’s control of the West Bank has nothing to do with “race.” Israel does not control the West Bank because Palestinians are of another race but because Palestinians tried to destroy Israel in 1967, and they lost the war. The only reason Palestinians do not have their own state has nothing to do with race: They rejected offers to found their own state on five separate occasions since 1948. They have always rejected building a Palestinian state because they have always been more interested in destroying Israel.
Fifth, the anti-Zionists claim that Israel’s origins are illegitimate.
The fact that, of all the world’s 200-plus countries, the only country anti-Zionists declare illegitimate is also the only Jewish country is pretty much all you need to know about their motives. Why, for example, don’t they make this claim about Pakistan? In 1947, nine months before the establishment of Israel, India was partitioned into a Muslim state — Pakistan — and a Hindu state — India.
Unlike Israel, Pakistan had never existed before.
Unlike Israel’s founding, which created about 700,000 Jewish refugees from Arab lands and 700,000 Arab refugees from what became Israel, the founding of Pakistan created about 7 million Muslim refugees from India and about 7 million Hindu refugees from Pakistan. And while the highest estimate of Arab deaths in the fighting that took place when Israel announced its establishment is 10,000, the number of deaths as a result of Pakistan’s creation is around 1 million.
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Given these facts, why is Israel’s legitimacy challenged while the legitimacy of Pakistan isn’t? There’s only one answer: Israel is the one Jewish state in the world. So, while there are 49 Muslim-majority countries and 22 Arab states, anti-Zionists reject the right of the one Jewish state — the size of New Jersey — to exist.
Of course, not all anti-Zionists hate all Jews. But as I wrote at the beginning, if you seek to destroy Italy, you don’t have to hate every Italian to be anti-Italian. If you seek to destroy the only Jewish state on Earth, you don’t have to hate every Jew to be an anti-Semite.
From the article:
a) Judaism has always consisted of three components: God, Torah and Israel.
then
b) … the Jews are called the “nation of Israel” repeatedly in the Bible. That is why there are irreligious, secular and even atheist Jews — because Jews are not only a religion.
This is a subtle contradiction in that ‘a’ is tripartite, inclusive whole, yet ‘b’ claims a ‘Jew’ can be atheist, implicit in which is no God and no Torah – might it be fair to ask if there are such entities as non-Judaic Jews?
This is the sort of category-confusion and verbal legerdemain that is either lazy and imprecise, or deliberately used to confound, confuse, and muddy the waters.
I’m in a hurry but I call bullshit on so many levels. This guy is lying through his damn teeth and he knows it. First , there is not one drop of ” jew ” blood running through his veins.,What are called jews today are nothing but Turkic – gentile pagan blood lines coming from central Europe . Second , God didn’t create Israel the anti Christ UN did in 1948 as a result of ” jews ” bribing politicians in America . Third , I hate these criminal bastards saying they have a right to anything when their tribe is robbing us and the rest of the world 24 / 7 through their control of the debt monetary system which is the biggest counterfeiting Operation know to man kind. Also the vast majority of so Jews are damn traitors. Why do so many hold duel citizenship with Israel . I could go on and on. I hate the lie of the Holocaust . I hate them controlling the media which they bought with counterfeit money which they then spew their anti white shit . For fuck sake. I need to go before I get pissed off. One last one. I hate them being called God’s chosen people which is a lie straight from hell. Things change once you began to understand everything you have ever been told about this and history are nothing but damn lies that these people continue to repeat over and over in the media.
Amen and Amen BB
BB, where does all this hate and anger come from? I can practically see you seething as you type these words. It is obvious you do not know the bible and what is stated throughout the old, and the new testament, with regard to the Jews. I truly hope some day that the veil you have over your eyes is removed so you can see the truth. I challenge you to ask for God’s help on understanding what is going on here. Then, pick up the bible and start reading at the beginning on the history of the Jews.
I’ve said this respectfully, not argumentatively, hoping that somehow, someway, you get past this and find the truth in all of it.
Brewer55, please explain for us. Seriously.
Why do I get the distinct feeling your request is just a set up? I could quote scripture on God’s covenant with Abraham (formerly Abram), or scripture relating to Israel (formerly named Jacob), or his son Joseph (the one with the “many colored robe”, or Isaiah and more.
I’m truly trying to understand why posts on this site, and others like Zero Hedge, are ripe with those folks that hate the Jews.
Simply put, at least as far as I’m concerned, I’ve learned to disregard some of my own feelings that I have had in the past (and still have some, I might add) regarding lousy treatment by some Jewish people early in my career living in SE Florida. However, as I’ve tried to grow in my faith walk, I’ve been working ever harder to live by obedience. It’s not what I feel that matters, it is what Almighty God has to say about it. He keeps His promises, he keeps his covenants. He’s not done with them, and he’s not done with us. I’m tired and turning in…you all have a good evening.
With all due respect Brewer 55 you are the one that doesnt understand the bible. The New Testament interprets the Old.
Galatians 3:7-9 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
7 Therefore, [a]be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. 8 The Scripture, foreseeing that God [b]would justify the [c]Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “All the nations will be blessed in you.” 9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with [d]Abraham, the believer.
Galatians 3:27-29 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is [a]neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you [b]belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s [c]descendants, heirs according to promise.
Revelation 3:9 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
9 Behold, I [a]will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—I will make them come and bow down [b]at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.
Romans 9:6 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel;
You could go on and on.
Christs and His apostles repeated message was
that being a Jew was not of Blood or DNA.
It is of the Spirit.
God wiped out the old covenant in ad70.
There is no judeo christian tradition. Except in the minds of ignorant people.
There are no DNA relatives of Abraham Isaac and Jacob walking around today that have anything close to a high percentage of their DNA.
And that is not what God says counts to make you
a True Jew.
Its not about the nation of Israel. The old one or the false one in the land of Palestine today.
Its an entirely fabricated fairy tale to control and elicit the help of useful christian idiots to run a murderous foreign policy that no christian would support if they werent duped by the fairy tale.
Christians today who believe this tale are just like the
Pharisees in Christs day. He told them over and over they didnt understand the gospel and what He was doing.
Neither do you Brewer 55
“With all due respect Brewer 55 you are the one that doesnt understand the bible.”
With all due respect GB, get a Bible and begin to quote it. Stop quoting from a corrupted version and study what God actually has to say in a KJB.
Hi GCP, I almost always defer to you in terms of Scriptural quotes, but none of the translations we use today is anywhere near perfect. They’re the result of a German theologian who left much to be desired. I am also firmly of the belief that there are apocryphal books like Enoch that provide as much or more value than some of the canonical books.
GCP I have wondered too what you think of the book of Enoch
It’s wild. It’s not scripture, but it may help to fill in a blank here and there. That Genesis 6 stuff is as weird as it gets and most people can’t handle the concept.
What God wants us to know for certain… He wrote it down unequivocally. All we need to know to function as He wants us to is written in a book. The KJB.
Everything else is speculation. Some of it quite compelling, but speculation nonetheless.
Study more. We have the mind of Christ. It’s real. It exists. In one place.
Genesis 3:1 KJB… “Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?”
It always boils down to… “did God really say that”? You either believe it or you don’t.
I believe my KJB. I rest my eternal soul upon it come what may.
Good to know you sir.
“They’re the result of a German theologian …”
That’s just not accurate. The manuscripts that resulted in the KJB were called the textus receptus and the book itself is a result of a seven group, each containing seven very learned and dedicated men committee, pouring over every verse and independently coming to the same conclusion as to what the Greek and Hebrew said. If there was disagreement, each had to go back, try again until unanimous consensus was reached. The italicized words in the KJB are indications of where there was not a word in the Greek or Hebrew that would complete the sentence logically in English and was thus inserted in. No one trying to hide anything.
Hello Grace country pastor, So you are telling me that the King James is the only non corrupted version?
What did people do for a bible for 1600 plus years before the pervert and tyrant King James had his version commissioned?
All translations have bias.
Thats why you need to cross reference the original.
One quick example off the top of my head.
KJV renders Matthew 24:3 as end of the world.
NASB renders it end of the age.
In the original greek the word is aionos.
That means age in greek. Do you think the KJV translators could have gotten it wrong?
The greek word for world is either kosmos
or oikemene. I dont see either in the original for that verse.
That is one of the main reasons for your poor understanding. You believe a tradition you were taught and seem to be incapable of changing your views when someone points something out that is very obvious.
Its where your error in eschatology and thus your whole understanding of the gospel comes from.
Present a refutation with logic, reason, and sound hermeneutic, not your false tradition.
Hello GB.
“So you are telling me that the King James is the only non corrupted version?”
I’m telling you that the King James, transliterated from the majority text (textus receptus) is the word of God in the English language to the exclusion of the other new-age translations taken from the Westcott and Hort inspired minority text (textus vaticanus) perversions. I am reminding you that satan is subtle and attacks in unexpected ways.
“What did people do for a bible for 1600 plus years before the pervert and tyrant King James had his version commissioned?”
They had faithful copies proliferated throughout the ages by faithful men. What do you suppose Jesus Himself was quoting from those many times He read scripture to men? What was Paul requesting here, the Bible not yet complete?
2 Tim 4:13… “The cloke that I left at Troas with Carpus, when thou comest, bring with thee, and the books, but especially the parchments.”
And what does the King’s sexual and other proclivities (even if accurate) have to do with his commissioning the transliteration of the Bible so remarkably carefully by others? Perhaps he had a “come to Jesus” moment? Do you know the method by which the KJB was transliterated? I do.
Read “Purified Seven Times” by Bill Bradley; “New Age Bible Versions…” by Gail Riplinger. Learn you somethin’ of everlasting value.
“All translations have bias. Thats why you need to cross reference the original.”
You are wrong, but we can fix that. The KJB is the inspired and preserved word of God in the English language. Honest study reveals such. And you certainly are not in possession of any original manuscripts. I simply believe what God says to me in my language.
Psalm 12:6-7… “The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.”
“One quick example off the top of my head. KJV renders Matthew 24:3 as end of the world. NASB renders it end of the age. In the original greek the word is aionos. That means age in greek. Do you think the KJV translators could have gotten it wrong? The greek word for world is either kosmos or oikemene. I dont see either in the original for that verse.”
The King James is correct to do so. The men who transliterated it were fluent in many languages. Are you? And, once again, where are these originals you claim to have access to?
“That is one of the main reasons for your poor understanding. You believe a tradition you were taught and seem to be incapable of changing your views when someone points something out that is very obvious.”
Says you… I see you presenting no gospel to anyone here. I actually threw away all that I had been taught, I too had been wrong about many things, especially regarding my Biblical views. That is, until I began to study the book on my own, no longer listening to men wearing robes.
“Its where your error in eschatology and thus your whole understanding of the gospel comes from.”
What is the gospel GB? Can you tell me? How do I get to heaven?
“Present a refutation with logic, reason, and sound hermeneutic, not your false tradition.”
There, you have it…
GCP…
Very nice reply….thanks.
As to Enoch and Jasher; both are referenced in the KJV as ‘authoritative’ sources, are they not?
So, I have just always (for years, anyway) consider what was written in Daniel as perhaps allowing for the ‘rediscovery’ of them…..?
“But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.”
“I am reminding you that satan is subtle and attacks in unexpected ways.”…….
and that he can appear as angel of light….which is exactly what I maintain happened with the Diest founders…..
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum<<<<—-
signed; a humble groupie
“As to Enoch and Jasher; both are referenced in the KJV as ‘authoritative’ sources, are they not?”
Both men are written about in the KJB. One wrote a book. Jasher. That it’s not a part of the KJB tells me one thing only… it ain’t scripture. Whatever else it tells me is only speculation. Speculation is cool… but speculating is not a part of reading scripture.
Brewski..
Perhaps you should go back to the very beginning of the Bible and start reading the BLACK PRINTED LINES and leave those clear white ones alone.
You Zionists are like Moonies.
Dude, what you just said makes absolutely no sense. I have read the bible, the black print, and the red print, many times over the last 15 years or so. I continue to read it, and learn from it. And, what I don’t fully understand — yet, anyway — I accept on faith. I fail a lot but, I do try to live in obedience to His Word. Have a nice evening.
You’re lecturing BB telling him to read the bible as if he never read it or is incapable of comprehending it. It’s apparent that you have read it wrong. The “Jews lost any claim to a homeland when they murdered Christ.
BB miss uses the word hate often but he doesn’t hate people. These so called Jew haters on TBP are just pointing to evidence so people like stucky call us Jew haters because they have no argument. they have never been able to disprove the claims and rarely try. They just resort to insults and distortions.
Being zealous is now a hate crime if it questions the company line.
Fleabaggs,
Please provide the scripture that states God breaks his covenant with the Jews because of the crucifiction of Jesus. You won’t be able to because it is not there. His promises are eternal. God may chastise and punish, but only to correct and He never lies. Read Revelations. There will be 144,ooo Jews from the 12 tribes that will be evangelizing in the end of days for redemption through Jesus the Christ. He has not finished with them. And, we who are Christian’s are not a replacement to what he has promised the Jews. Finally, i cant speak for anyone else but, i do not resort to insults or distractions. I may sometimes be direct, and i may challenge statements i believe are wrong but, i always remain civil and respectful. Now, i really am turning out the lights! Blessings to you.
Brew..
I did not say anything about God breaking his promises. I said they lost any claim to a homeland in this world. New Jerusalem is new.
You do not resort to insults yet you say “why posts on this site and others like Zero Hedge are ripe with those folk that hate the Jews. I’m insulted by that comment. Being expressive is only considered hate when speaking against the company line.
We come here because we can express ourselves without an MSM hall monitor accusing us of Hate-ism.
Fleabaggs, maybe ‘hate’ was the wrong choice of words. I can’t stand that that word is misused by the left on practically everything. However, and that being said, what would you characterize it as then — strong dislike? I’m not trying to nit-pick here but, BB was practically foaming at the mouth and, you’ve shown some strong feelings on the subject so, I don’t know what to call it.
Before certain exposure to certain thought guidelines*, we were allowed to call a spade a spade.
I suspect a certain alarm from down under that went unheeded has damaged many contributors here. There are certain revisions of history which will NEVER stand. Like the walls around Samson, the liars will fall to their knees, as I myself have done many times, and they will cry HOLY is the WORD. Truth wins.
I read the end.
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*TBP patrons do not censor. They prefer to delete your comments in Winston style, as if your countryside point of view does not count.
Flea… “New Jerusalem is new.”
New Jerusalem is “not yet”. It is a future occurrence.
My own dear Sunday School teacher told me so.
You have an excellent attitude sir Brewer. Most here are wrong about the Jews. They today are fallen people just like us. They have the option to be saved by grace through faith in the shed blood of our Lord.
Nationally they are the synagogue of satan as he is their god and much worldly trouble stems from this and other Bible error; but God is hardly finished with them. Paul explains everything… (as always).
Romans 11:11-13 KJB… “I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:”
They will come into their own supernaturally at some point in the future.
Keep pressing on Brewer…!
2 Timothy 2:24-26 KJB… “And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
Thank you, sir. When I stand for God, through Jesus, and by the power of the Holy Spirit, I’ll take all hits here and elsewhere.
I want to add one more thing. I believe I fully understand the origins of the Illuminati .Adam Weishaupt and the Rothschild’s money backing and all they have done to foment wars, to fund both sides of them. From the French revolution, the Bolshevik revolution in Russia, and every war since. So, I am not ignorant to those secular Jews that are part of the organizations like the Council on Foreign Relations (the Illuminati in America), the Bilderburgs, the Trilateral Commission, etc.
All I’m trying to say is that there is a grand plan that is getting closer and closer to fruition. In the end, believers stand with Jesus. Whether resurrected or alive at the time of His return. Everything in between is already ‘history’ in the Lord’s book. So, what I don’t fully understand or, have come to understand that might be incorrect, I ask God for Wisdom and discernment and I turn the rest over to Him.
Amen my brother.
Here is that verse you said doesnt exist Brewer. The end of the Old Covenant.
Hebrews 8:13 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
13 [a]When He said, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is [b]ready to disappear.
Its pure logic. If the old is becoming obsolete and ready to disappear because of “A New Covenant” then there cant be the old any more.
The whole 8th chapter of Hebrews is about the ending of the old and the inauguration of the Eternal never ending
New of Christ.
Which of course has yet to occur. Hebrews through Revelation are future books regarding the NT given to Israel.
Is this reality today?
Hebrews 8:8-11 KJB… “For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.”
One must read the bible in its FULL context, what I would call the ‘full counsel of God’ to fully understand what is being said here.
The new covenant you refer to in that scripture reading is the end of sacrificial giving by the Jews. That is all covered by the blood of Jesus on the cross in Calvary. The atonement of sins is covered by believing in Jesus as the only begotten Son of God, and what he did to cover all sins, past, present & future, by his sacrifice, once and for all, on the cross. The curtain to the Holy of Holy’s was torn in two. This meant that it was no longer just the high priest that had access to God. If you are a believer, we have that access because of Jesus, through his Holy Spirit dwells within us.
The temple of God is now in our hearts!
He never goes back on His promises. His promise to Moses and the entry into the promised land remains and will remain until the return of Jesus and the New Jerusalem where he will reign for 1000 years, with his church.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!
First … “they” have no argument?? My good god, Jehobah!!! The good Jew/bad Joo debate has been going on here for 10+ years … with each side providing plenty of their own proofs …. and, of course, neither side EVER learning even one thing of value from the other. The delusion is strong in you.
Second, in terms of resorting to “insults” it is YOUR side that excels superbly in that. Just look at this post and keep track of who rants and raves the loudest …. start with the Village Idiot, bb … and then get back to me. All a person has to do is say even ONE slightly positive thing about da Joos …. and it is you anti-Jew proponents go ape-shit crazy.
Third, in terms of “distortions”, yeah I agree to a point. Fact is, when it comes to da Joos … BOTH sides love to distort the “facts” as they want them portrayed to best support their own argument.
I have been on this site from the very beginning. Let me be 100% honest — no bullshitting, no trolling, nothing but the truth — there is NO other topic on TBP that is more filled with lies, distortion, misinformation, and general bullshit than those regarding Jews (and that includes THIS post&thread).
Speaking for myself only, I rarely learn anything NEW from these Joo posts. I feel like King Solomon — “there is nothing new under the sun”. After 10+ years it’s the same tired old story from the same players (on both sides) time after time after time.
Take your meds before you have a heart attack. Meathead.
Please don’t let this post cause you a heart attack, BB
Amen, and Amen BB!!! The lying Jew bastards are God’s enemies … not His “Chosen.”
“But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them (the Jew Pharisees and Sadducee’s), bring hither, and slay them before me.” Christ speaking @ Luke 19:27
Again @ Genesis 3:15 “And I will put enmity (hatred) between thee (Satan) and the woman (Eve), and between thy seed (Satan’s seed) and her seed (Eve’s seed); it shall bruise thy head (Eve’s seed), and thou (Satan) shall bruise his (Eve’s seed) heel.” Yahweh speaking to Satan and Eve after the fall in the Garden (the fall, the original sin of “Race Mixing” between Satan and Eve in the Garden).
Hey, GCP how’s that “Apple Story” Zionist-Judeo bullshit teaching working out for you?
IPNW..
He has a large following of groupies here. His King James is the least reliable of all the translation.
Fleabaggs
So I’ve noticed. He’s a deluded Zionist idiot. When I read such false Judeo teachings, I cannot resist but to rebuke the source.
Really?
I thought you were deeper than that flea, I’ve read you carefully… guess I could be wrong. Sorry about that.
GCP..
I don’t know if you’re a zionist or not, that’s ipnw. I stated you have a following of groupies here and you swear the King James is the most accurate or best translation. That puts you in the minority. I also said that you and Brewer have anointed yourselves as the Chaplains of Biblical purity.
As an aside. The book of Enoch was removed by the Church in Rome for dubious reasons. It is still in the Ethiopian Bible which has been around longer and is way more legitimate than any Protestant church. If it’s been removed from the Etheopian church it happened while I was asleep.
As for being deep. I’m not deep and don’t claim to know much beyond what I’ve said on TBP. I’ve been following the money trail since I was involuntarily red pilled in 68 and because of it I’m convinced all roads lead to Israel and it’s all about the 3rd temple and the Trans humanists who are the first humans in the satanic chain of command. They get their orders from demonic entities.
Know I’m not a zionist and the church of Rome is itself highly dubious. Subtle even.
As for self anointing… I just quote scripture for those who may be interested. I’m grateful there are some here. I look everywhere.
May I ask as to how you were “involuntarily” red pilled? Interesting choice of words. Vietnam experiences?
In total agreement regarding the third temple as all earthly roads certainly lead to Israel, transhumanists and their “superiors” whom one day I will somehow judge.
1 Corinthians 6:3 KJB… “Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?”
As for the KJB, I stake my eternity upon it. Not afraid of being in the minority; trying to change that though through reason and faith in its trustworthiness.
Thanks for your reply.
GCP.
New Jerusalem is new was tongue in cheek, implying it ain’t here yet and you’re being generous to say Rome is highly dubious.
No sense debating bibles here this morning, it won’t change our views. The Eastern and Middle Eastern churches have survived rather well without the King James.
Before I mention my red pilling, you might be interested in a mutual defense pact with Israel being sponsored by Lindsay Graham posted over on the Unz Review.
In 68 after the Tet Offensive as a 20 year old kid I went crazy from information overload and shell shock as they called it then.
I attempted to describe it in My War but didn’t want to make that about me. I also said as a result of it I made a very bad choice to go over to the dark side mostly out of confusion and the sense of betrayal and with no faith to fall back on.
I took the Evil and the Evil took me is all I was willing to say about it but it was a lot more than that. I had to make a consious choice to commit evil and can still remember God trying to stop me without violating my free will. It required a force of will to step through some kind of strange force field(for lack of a better word). In other words, I had to agree or give permission willfully to step through this thing and commit evil that followed me all my life until I repented. This of course led me to take an offer to run drugs and guns in the delta for some of the most evil sorts one might encounter anywhere and learn even more things I didn’t want to learn about our government through Operation Phoenix. That’s where I learned to follow the money trail to find the answer to anything happening anywhere on the globe.
For instance. All weapons go through Belgium a regional capitol of the evil empire. You can believe that the NVA and VC were supplied by way of the Ho Chi Minh trail but it ain’t so.
A bunch of starving sickly 90lb. asian slaves carried 120 lb. rockets all the way down south on a jungle trail in an area where we dropped more bombs than we did on all of germany makes nice fiction. So does the Idea that Trump and Putin are the good guys. I admit to being severely tainted and jaded in my views and I also admit that I paid for those views for 50 years while always being open to “New” information but it has to be new, not old info in a new dress.
I read your “my war” piece and was moved deeply by it. I figured that had much to do with your red-pilling but didn’t want to jump to any mistaken conclusions.
peace, Flea…
Mornin, Flea….
I gave you that upvote early this morning, but didn’t have time to respond. The upvote was for your honesty in the first, and for the accuracy (IMO) of the second two paragraphs.
Count me as a part of that group ee thing, I reckon. The ‘dividing’ of scripture that GCP does holds water, and while it may let a little seep out, the same can be said of ANY interpretations….
As I have said to him before, the fascinating aspect of the KJV bible IS the language that it contains. I too, hold it to be the most accurate scripture, and draw an analogy kin to standing by clear, still water in a pond. Looking into it, you can see fairly clear what lies beneath, but as soon as somebody steps into, things get stirred up and become murkey….
The history of King James’ method for the translators to follow allowed for cross checking of the results in manner that allowed for a ‘consensus’ to be reached. I always have wondered about the veracity of it based on masonic type of influence at the time, and GCP’s directions to consider the time period, and to whom the letters were written, helps to resolve the issues I have with my absolute and complete failure to be able to live according to the instructions set forth. I was born into generations of believers in the message of Salvation by Grace thru Faith….
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum<<<<—– this
It's not the form of our government, it's the devil worshippin pricks that have been runnin it since inception that I've got the problem with….LIARS
And to GCP…
I don't even want to get started on 'the church of Rome' thing…
Somewhere in this thread I think (but maybe on the intelligent design thread), someone posted about 'aliens' / scripture / 'the creator God being just another god / catholic church….etc.
I just skipped over, and maybe should have addressed the encyclical of Francis concerning the baptism of other worldly creatures, and whether 'they' would be getting baptized…..or if perhaps 'they' would be doing the baptism……
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"Christians will not immediately need to renounce their faith in God 'simply on the basis of the reception of [this] new unexpected information of a religious character from extraterrestrial civilizations'.
However, once the 'religious content' originating from outside the earth 'has been verified' they will have to conduct 'a re-reading [of the Gospel] inclusive of the new data"
Vatican Astronomer
[connected with Opus Dei]
Father Giuseppe Tanzella-Nitti
Nice.. ordie. These sorts of insights in discussion are why I love it when Stucky pinches a loaf and posts it.
Crude but effective. It makes us think.
Look at these same verses in different versions. For those of you who are saved, you will see what I mean by satan’s subtilty.
1 Cor 1:18 (KJB)… “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.”
1 Cor 1:18 (NIV)… “For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.”
Are you SAVED or is salvation a process?
Words mean things. Another example, one little word altered; of/in…
Gal 2:16 (KJB)… “Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”
Gal 2:16 (NIV)… “know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.”
Are we justified by “our faith in Christ” or by “the faith of Christ Himself”? As for me, I will stand upon Christ’s faith(fulness) as mine wavers from time to time…
I pick on the NIV because it is so popular, but all the new age perversions follow the same minority text manuscripts. There are endless such examples. The KJB is true and accurate. It is perfect as it is the mind/thoughts of Christ (God) Himself revealed to us. That can be hard for an imperfect mind to digest. Post digestion, the human mind is forever altered.
1 Cor 2:16… “For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.”
Flea…I personally like Greek translations which include Maccabean writings and “other” writings. I am not a scholar not do I claim much knowledge beyond my own.
But, I cut my teeth on King James. It was/is the Primer for most of our day.
“Hey, GCP how’s that “Apple Story” Zionist-Judeo bullshit teaching working out for you?”
I’m not sure who you think you’re talking to. You ain’t read me much.
See y’all tomorrow. Website is buggin out bad crashing and trying to reload.
GCP…
I think you.provide some real grounding with your solid faith and scripture grasp
Have even seen .splendid sense of.humor.
I grew up.country hick.gen-rural Baptist. King James was the only monarch of meme in my young world.
Monarch of Meme.
Tyrant of Truth
I remember Pastor.Cox pounding his fist on that cedar pulpit my grandfather constructed as a gift for the church.
Grandma donated the piano upon which I played. Country hick GenRural Baptist.
So the pulpit pounding ceremony was a.warning against the blasphemous LIVING BIBLE recently promoted as the modern Word. Blasphemy! He pounded and got red-faced and sometimes had to stop for water.
That was early 70s.
I think, respect imtended, that the.Author and Finisher (Means no edits vv…a day of.formatting only), can impart or import meaning and Divine intent with any version of.the.Word. if the seeker comes boldly with honest intent. The road to Heaven, I am told, is also paved with the Best of intent.
I am suffering doubled vision and there is a limit to my phone screed edits. I await my new prism glasses. Being a hydro head sucks under continuous barometric lows.
If I.was named Noah, I might build an ark but I am Martha, aka MG once called Miss Maggie at Sunday School. We all paint arts and crafts now. We have all the Patriot Rocks Borne from the Bootheel (is catchy), no longer Flat Stuck in Misery.
I never got how that got distorted but just as the Lord uses error for Good, our enemy uses it to destroy. So, instead of arkbuilding, I am jam making. With blackberries I picked.
Perhaps a couple kids will help.
I prefer 3 to 5 years old. They see Truth.
And they can still be trained up as they should go.
By the way.
When my son was 11, he told me he thought it was stupid to act like words like ass and fuck were any different than cat or slap.
After a couple embarrassing snafus I decided he needed a lesson only my father’s daughter could teach.
His friend was so shocked by my filthy mouth he went home and asked.his.mother to NOT swear.
She.called.and I explained.
My son rarely swears. If he does, I swear back. Sometimes he shuts up. Sometimes not. He is my father’s daughter’s son. With Asperger’s or, just ass burgers. He is smart. But he has something
Words are just letters lined up against their will. It is the meaning which matters.
Have a lovely lovely day.
Thanks M G… agreed, kids see right through the bullshit most adults toss around so freely.
Amen.
One of my Favorite Dramatizations involved having a half circle of Rugrats around eating apple slices and grapes (He said to feed ’em) and cheese and crackers. Then I would tell them what the Lord claimed to be GREATEST in heaven.
I would sweep them up and swing them onto my shoulders and tell them that only children like themselves realize what is really possible with God.
“I think, respect imtended, that the.Author and Finisher (Means no edits vv…a day of.formatting only), can impart or import meaning and Divine intent with any version of.the.Word. if the seeker comes boldly with honest intent.”
Heb 4:12-13… “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.”
Slice you up and rearrange you right quick if you let it. This book reads you while you read it.
You forgot one important jewish document…the Talmud, which is the major text that promotes jewish supremacism, and the notion that non-jews are “livestock with souls, whose only purpose is to serve the jews”.
Baked, broiled, brazed or poached?
Talmud is not Jewish law, it is ancient, and it has virtually no significance to the average Jew. You have any source material for that statement about “livestock with souls”? You quote without attribution, because it likely does not exist anywhere.
Anarchyst does not need source material.He has digital ink.
Get it straight,Juden.
Rabbi Issael, Rabbi Chasbar, et. al.:
The teachings of the Talmud stand above all other laws. They are more important than the laws of Moses.
Rosh Hashanah 17a:
Christians and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations
Rabbi Menachen, Comments for the Fifth Book:
The decisions of the Talmud are words of the living God.
Tractate Mechilla:
Jehovah himself in heaven studies the Talmud, standing: he has such respect for that book.
Libbre David 37:
To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.
Libbre David 37:
If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he must to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death.
Sanhedryn, 59a
Aboda Zora 8-6
and Szagiga 13
Every goy who studies the Talmud and every Jew who helps him in it must be killed.
Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17:
A Jew must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them.
Baba Kamma 113a:
Jews may lie to non-Jews for their benefit.
Pesachis F. 113B:
Love each other, love the robbery, hate your masters and never tell the truth.
Schulchan Aruch, Jore Dia:
A Jew is permitted to rape, cheat and perjure himself (lie); but he must take care that he is not found out, so that Israel may not suffer.
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat, 348:
The Jewish nation is the only nation selected by God, while all the remaining ones are contemptible and hateful.
That all property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which consequently is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews in general.
A Jew may rob a Goy, he may cheat him over a bill, which should not be perceived by him, otherwise the name of God would become dishonored.
Seph. Jp., 92, 1:
God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations.
Baba Kamma 37b:
Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has exposed their money to Israel.
Choschen Hamm 388, 15:
The estates of the Goys are like wilderness, who first settles in them has a right to them.
Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaiw 14, 20, 32, 33, 39
TaIDud Jebamoth 61
and Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L:
Everything a Jew needs for his Temple rituals no goy is permitted to manufacture, but only a Jew, because this must be manufactured by human beings and the Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings.
Saba Mecia 114, 6:
The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts
Yevamoth 98a:
All gentile children are animals.
Baba Mezia 114a-114b:
Only Jews are human.
Tosefta, Tractate Erubin VIII:
On the house of the Goy one looks as on the fold of cattle.
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156:
When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it.
Yalkut 245c:
Everyone who sheds the blood of the impious [non-Jews] is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God.
Choshen Ha’mishpat 425:50:
Kill the Goyim by any means possible.
Zohar, Shemoth:
Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice.
Soferim 15, Rule 10:
Even the best of the Goyim should be killed.
Sanhedrin 58b:
If a heathen smites a Jew, he is worthy of death. He who smites an Israelite on the jaw, is as though he had thus assaulted the Divine Presence; for it is written, one who smiteth man [i.e. an Israelite] attacketh the Holy One.
[Punching a Jew is the same as God, but killing a non-Jew is NOT like assaulting God)]
Tosefta, Aboda Zara, VIII, 5:
If a goy killed a goy or a Jew he is responsible, but if a Jew killed a goy he is not responsible.
Josiah 60, 6. Rabbi Abarbanel to Daniel 7, 13:
As soon as the Messiah will declare himself, He will destroy Rome and make a wilderness of it. Thorns and weeds will grow in the Pope’s palace. Then He will start a merciless war on non-Jews and will overpower them. He will slay them in masses, kill their kings and lay waste the whole Roman land. He will say to the Jews: ‘I am the King Messiah for whom you have been waiting. Take the silver and gold from the goyim.’
Moed Kattan 17a :
If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.
Choschen Hamm 388, 15:
If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth.
Baba Kamma 37b:
Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has exposed their money to Israel.
CENTRAL BANKS!
Where is the animals without souls part?
You are combining multiple paraphrases from multiple Talmudic passages that say that gentiles have inferior souls and are to be used as labor in the same sense as oxen or horses.
Is this what your thinking Llpoh?
Ecclesiastes 3:21 KJB.. “Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?”
Solomon poses the question.
First verse I looked up: libbre David 37. Lo and behold, no such verse exists in the Talmud.
Second one I looked up: Choschen Ham 388, 15 and 266,1 are not part of Talmud. There is no such book or tractate as Choschen Ham. It may be an abbreviation of Choshen HaMishpat, which is not part of Talmud. If it is Choshen HaMishpat that is intended, there is no such quote.
I stopped there. Zero for two.
Anarchyst – you are a lying piece of shite. You post blatant lies and falsehoods. The very first item I check does not exist. What the fuck is wrong with you?
Your name-calling exposes you as a hasbara or unit 8200 member. GROW UP!
From the above:
“Rabbi Menachen, Comments for the Fifth Book:
The decisions of the Talmud are words of the living God.”
That is a quote from the Protocols of Zion! This shit gets worse and worse.
Zero for three.
First anarchyst posts without attribute, then he posts lies with false attributes. You cannot make this shit up.
He pulls shit from the Protocols and from KKK false propaganda. I did not check every quote, but each and every one I did was a false quote, did not exist, no such book or passage exists in the Talmud, or it was from the Protocols.
This fuckwit uses as his source KKK material, the Protocols, and even a Muslim hate blog by the look of it, and checked nary a quote he pasted in for authentication.
That is some seriously fucked up bullshit right there. If a person wants to seek out fake information to malign Jews, well, by golly, anarchyst is your man.
There is some bad shit in the Talmud, there is no doubt. But anarchyst is not satisfied with the real stuff, he has to instead post shit that hate groups make up.
Again, what the fuck is wrong with this asshole.
There is almost as much jewish supremacy filth in the Torah, which is NOT just the Christian OT.
Ken – you are intentionally trying to obfuscate.
The Torah consists of five books: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Prophets includes Joshua, Judges, Samuel (Christians divide it into two books), Kings (Christians divide it into two books), Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and the Twelve Minor Prophets. Writings includes Psalms, Proverbs, Job, Song of Songs, Ruth, Lamentations, Ecclesiastes, Esther, Daniel, Ezra-Nehemiah (Christians divide it into two books), Chronicles (Christians divide it into two books). All of these together are the Bible, which the Christians call the “Old Testament”.
The Old Testament of Christianity is not identical to the Torah/Tanakh but it is damn close.
That was very good sir, spot on. Two major points of objection however. The old testament has absolutely nothing to do with “Christianity”; UNLESS you are demonstrating the law to someone to prove to him that it cannot be kept, save by a perfect being… Christ Himself. Paul refers to this as “the lawful use of the law” – 1 Tim 1, as we saved today are not under the law (Rom 6:14-15).
And… the old testament continues partway through the book of Acts. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are OT (law) books; as per…
Heb 9:16-17… “For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.”
The NT cannot begin until Jesus death on the cross. And, while it began to begin in the early chapters of Acts, God put a temporary stop to it in favor of saving Paul, a blasphemer of the Holy Spirit, by grace alone (the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began – Rom 16:25-27) and offering the same to the whole of humanity without the intended influence of the nation Israel.
That page in our Bibles the publisher inserts between Malachi and Matthew which reads “The New Testament” does not belong there.
grace and peace…
GCP-
It seems like I just scroll around, read what you say, hit an upvote and move on.
“The old testament has absolutely nothing to do with “Christianity”; UNLESS you are demonstrating the law to someone to prove to him that it cannot be kept, save by a perfect being… Christ Himself……..”
Only to differ slightly in that the focus of Christianity IS Christ…is the Word….and the Word was in the beginning. The protoevangelium of Gen. 3 is the second reference to Christ….of Christianity..
IMHO, from the first verses to the last verses, the Bible is the revelation of the I Am That I Am through Jesus Christ
Splittin’ hairs a bit I reckon, I understand the points you made so well…..
I would lean to saying the points made by ‘the liberty lover from down under’ were spot on. We were not consulted in the creation, but such as it was, how could there even be ‘christianity’ without the foundation upon which it was built?
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum<<<<
“IMHO, from the first verses to the last verses, the Bible is the revelation of the I Am That I Am through Jesus Christ”
The mind of God revealed to us mere mortals. Stunning…!
“how could there even be ‘christianity’ without the foundation upon which it was built?”
Good question. What then is the foundation upon which Christianity was built? Christ clearly… but what about Christ? Not what He said to the twelve, but what He said to Paul. In the book of John He dies for His friends; those who keep the commandments.
In Romans it is revealed that He dies for His enemies… you and me, who didn’t deserve it at all.
GCP…
“Christ died for the ungodly”……
My folks moved us to where we are when I was 7. The house they bought was on the very edge of town, next to a wheatfield, with a long hill lining the northside of the field. In whitewashed stones, the above words from Romans were spelled out in letters were about 15′ tall, and stacked to be about 4′ thick…..a lot of stones.
The first summer, about a half dozen of us nieghborhood kids took it upon ourselves to execute a ‘mission’ to get some crosses put up on the crest of the hill (which was near a tee box on the golf course). The ‘mission’ lasted most of the summer, in between ballgames and such, and when we were done we had three six foot tree limb crosses. They stay for years…..and when they finally fell, a local church apparently paid to have three made of steel painted white like the rocks, and they stand there today…..
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum<<<— experiences with the deceit of local freemasons in municipal gov. led me to wonder…"just who the hell do they think they are"…..and I have learned
-the 'key' to better understanding is as you say. I read it and read it and read it, on my own the first couple times. Then with the aid of a laptop, and many who know way more than I, the glass began to clear..
Nice
Very nice indeed…!!!
I’m both
Dennis Prager is constantly spouting about Judeo-Christians, which is an oxymoron…Most Jews hate Christians and especially Christian ethics, and the Jewish religion specifically condemns Jesus of Nazareth….
As to Israel, it is an absolutely lawless and murderous Apartheid theocracy in which only Ashkenazi jews have full rights…Many American Jews have condemned it in the past, but as even the ADL has stated, criticizing Israel does not make you an antisemite…
Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.
Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.
It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.
I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments, nothing more.
The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.
Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status, not true of judaism.
Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock-subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.
Jews DID murder Jesus Christ. Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder. As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way). It makes absolutely no sense at all. Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.
160 and counting… you’re right on some levels and dead wrong on others. Check yourself.
I could not get past the article title, it is all getting so confusing……kind like being anti-antifa…..is that a double negative therefore I am pro antifa? (now my head hurts)
almost got it, you’re actually “pro -fa”.
Voltaire said “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”
…
Uh, sorry. This whole thing is bullshit. Zionism is, of course, a Jewish nationalist movement. Israel is a country founded by and for Jews. Many, probably most, Jews support Israel. There are several lines of crap in Praeger´s argument, however. First, not all Jews are Israelis, no matter what the Law of Return says. Second, for many religious Jews, the existence of Israel is at best ambiguous and at worst an offense to God. Third, Jews, like everybody else, are perfectly free to oppose or ignore Israel and the Zionist movement, as did many of the Bolsheviks and countless assimilated American Jews. Many Catholic Irishmen opposed the creation of the Irish Republic for reasons that made sense to them. That did not make them “unIrish”.
People are opposed to or critical of Israel for logical and moral reasons having nothing to do with anti-Antisemitism.
Many people, including very senior U.S. officials like James Forrestal, opposed the creation of Israel on solid geo-political grounds, i.e., it would be a disaster for the United States. Care to argue with him? Oh, you can´t. Somebody pushed him out a window. Others oppose the idea of a bunch of Europeans marching in and simply seizing land that belonged to people who had lived there for as long as the Jews had. Many thoughtful people see the Zionist state as lawless and aggressive. Among them, perhaps, are the former crew members of the USS Liberty. The treatment of the displaced Palestinians has not won Israel many intelligent friends.
So there. From my point of view, Praeger is full of shit. Thank you. And don´t quote the Bible to me, please. Many fanatical Zionists are atheists or non-religious.
SSage…
“Somebody pushed him out a window.”
James Forrestal and Vince Foster……both ‘suicides’;
who killed James Forrestal?
https://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=96
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- there’s a lot of info in that link, if it works.
ordo,
good link,i had never heard about this–
i saw an article a couple of years ago that said truman did not want to recognize israel but did so because of domestic political pressure,and what the loss of jewish support would do to the democratic party–
A very sage and thougbtful answer. I have not yet had time to reAd Stucky’s provocative post. I will do so with relish. And mustard on
Bratwerst handmade by a local grocery!
Very thoughtful SS. Did you ever wonder why you hear the question: Do you believe Israel has the right to exist-but never did the Confederate States of America have a right to exist? States are about power, pure and simple-which makes ‘consent of the governed’ a contradiction in terms.
“…the existence of Israel is at best ambiguous and at worst an offense to God.”
The Israel of today is certainly not the Israel of God. An offense, yes… big time. They will welcome anti-christ into a newly constructed temple where he will declare to the world that he is god.
Then things get real ugly.
This person “forgot” to mention, when comparing israhell to Italy, that israhell is murdering and maiming other human beings in order for them to have their “homeland”. I am now a proud anti-semite, this article and others like it, do nothing to change my mind.
Israel’s birth rate is about 3.11 per woman since 2016 and they only very grudgingly allow any kind of migration from places like Sudan and Eritrea. So it seems very clear: Zion for them, “diversity” for Europe and the West. They are a complete boat anchor around the U.S. tax-payer’s neck and are constantly stirring up shit in the Middle East. Fuck them and their Kosher horse they road in on.
Have not read it but like MOST of what you say.
On a quick read after a long VA hospital day. Got to chat with old army granniea.
In sneakers. I liked them too!
Reading through comments first. Is like old tea almost! A REAL discussion and debate. I hope.
So, you’re a full fledged Jimboite? Assuming you’re really El Coyote …. I never thought that would be possible.
I not…are you talking to EC? Lol
Hey…you gotta know my Christian Zionist friend comes by to visit me on occasion.
My son is chat buds with her granddaughter. No romance, I hope.
She is in theater…a high maintenance sort. She will NOT be slaughtering bunnies, you know?
I have lop eared rabbits now. I will do a picture tomorrow for ya. Will put it here.
Worn out from doctor stuff for my Nick. Stress testing all day I hadda go… it wouldn’t be valid without ME!
I had discussions with old codgers. Lol…talking to people I will become too soon.
Yesterday has come so soon hasn’t t it Stuck in New Jersey? Good to see you posting some lovely prose for light reading
Hugs to you and yours.
Boo Hoo… A downvote on my little note.
Looks like a swat sticker toe. Dropped by a lonesome self- fellating bird.
BTW.. the crops are coming in except for all the soybeans. Corn is good on this side. Illinois? Notnso much
Fuck you now.there are.two.
I was responding to “El Kabong” … who I assumed was El Coyote. because of the “El” part.
You and El Coyote must have 50 different aliases between you. It is difficult as hell, and annoying to no end, trying to figure out who is who.
It becomes necessary at times. Most of my comments are article/post related and so I join with all the anon folks who sense something turning in tone. Some filters are invisible.
I will leave it there.
I am my father’s sister’s namesake niece. Her name was Martha, as is mine. She loved working with story telling. She has a gourd named Gosh.
I have a coonskin who rides in my ragtag flag bag.
We are a bunch of hicks. Tough as nails.
I told you all that many years ago.
I preferred Maggie then. Since seeing the type of data collection available to those willing to sift and sort data, I have opted for M G, with various teaser titles in the “recent comments” list. Since my wordpress image is attached to an account there, the actual comment usually identifies me aa me. If someone responds, I respond. Or not.
Believe it or not, I am not here much. If you see something you think is me, it may not be.
EC hinted to me about the Doppling game but I was not good until I got Doppled. And HOLLY O’d.
So…about being Earnest. Are you?
Some here are real BIRDS.
This is the point where I intentionally digress.
I am on here rarely. Almost All of the Fake Names I am accused of and all of the lies are because I had a laptop hidden by a gal I worked with at Boeing.
I use SPEedy or 100? Today or sometimes Anon. I do not want to bring distraction. So…I hide my name. Like the poor Frank family in that narrow house in Amsterdam.
Did your family try to return? Popeye Doyle’s did. They were slaughtered at the dock by Bolsheviks.
God knows who I am. He also laughs at me.
This place supports free speech. True that. I hope folks send their support.
I will write a fun story told to me about Moles in Malden, Missouri. Then, you will know where to toss your turds. Or not.
I can take it and I can give it.
I have always believed that on a fair field, Truth and Falsehood could grapple. Then, I saw what happens when the Agenda begins to form.
I enjoy your stuff and make it a point to read it when I can. Today, it is raining.
So, I can read and comment and make jam.
sometimes, I am more than convinced that there are indeed multiple universes
It has stopped raining. Tata for.now.
that was funny, wishes…
Wishy- There are multiple universes on different planes of consciousness. Really.
I have remained true to my comment…m g. I shall be unless speedy.
Am still enjoying reading the discussion.
Sometimes stirring the shit reveals some pearls of wisdom.
Go on-line. There are far too many pictures of extremely young Palestinian children MISSING THEIR HEADS thanks to israeli sniper bullets. It is despicable. It is heart-wrenching. Would Jesus Christ condone such behavior – in this era – in the name of ‘securing one’s homeland?’ I think not.
I guess you’ve never been on-line and seem all the people mooslims behead and/or blow to smithereens.
Or all the kids that Christians blow to smithereens.
Those are raghead terrorist babies. They are similar to those baby opossums I drowned this spring.
What is the fuss?
Sarcasm OFF.
Smallpox in the blankets?
this seems an appropriate place for ‘Killing in the Name’
I’m no religious scholar but a few things I find curious are:
“b) Anyone, of any race or ethnicity, can become a Jew.” That maybe true. But why are African jews not allowed to immigrate to Israel? No darkies, please?
Orthodox Jews are good people by all accounts who dislike intensely the Zionists. Are they anti-semitic?
The Khazars claim Jewish ancestry; they are not.
The jews have been kicked out of over 100 countries over the centuries. Why?
The Talmud has Christ boiling in his own excrement. What’s not to love?
Could you give me a link? I would like to ask a friend about that talmudic belief.
You lie! Israel took in 1,000 of them.
“The Israeli government decided on October 7 that just 1,000 Ethiopian Jews would be permitted to move to Israel, which would leave many families divided, according to leaders of Ethiopia’s Jewish community. They said Ethiopian Jews are starving, ostracized and deprived of basic needs in Africa while the government in Israel is “dragging its feet to come to our rescue.”
——– https://www.apnews.com/601077c18b35474b910d18c5964f7291
Hey, maybe Israel doesn’t want a bunch of dumb unskilled fuckers in their country. Maybe Israel doesn’t want a bunch of free-shit parasites-for-life entering their country. Maybe somebody in Israel reads TBP —> “We should have picked our own cotton!”
Yeah, let’s let 7,000 of those morans in! lol
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So then Zionism isn’t really about ALL Jews returning to the homeland, n’est-ce pas? All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others, said the piggies?
Sounds to me like the very foundation of Zionism is a falsehood, hence all other components are rendered null and void. The keystone cannot be removed without affecting the very foundation.
For the record …. this article is merely an OPINION PIECE written by an individual who has been thoroughly co-opted. Are you hungering for the truth? Start watching the daily podcast on the TRUNEWS (trunews.com) website. Also on youtube. It is more than just opinion. The cornerstone of this program is evidence-based. It will show you what is transpiring in our great country and who is behind it. Facts. Not opinion.
Horseshit. I’ve personally known Jews who I’ve had no problem or issue with. I do have a problem with the jews so think white people should be eradicated. I also have a problem with America being Israel’s bitch. America FIRST is not the same as Israel first. Like America, Israel is too often a nation state that fosters terrorism and oppression- ask the Palestinians. There is one thing Israel consistently does right- put Israeli interests first and foremost. America needs to be more like that.
Oh, goody. So now you give a Flying Fuck about Palestinians? Why???
Do you not remember what happened after 9-11? There weren’t just five-dancing-Palestinians jumping with joy …. they were ENTIRE VILLAGES celebrating, nay, even the whole “nation” jumped with joy at the deaths of innocent Americans. Fuck the Palestinians.
Do you think they give a shit about YOU??
America has been financing and protecting Israel’s vicious and lawless activities for 70 years, just ask the surviving crew members of the USS Liberty, and now America is basically a colony of Israel…Only a seriously warped person, especially an American, could support that…
You’re good.
Wait. Did we just get trolled by Stucky? OMG! LOL!
El K.
Oh shoot. He did it again. This time he got me good. I spotted the last one over the carbon tax. Never saw this one coming.
Right? Me too. It reminds me to stay rational, but I gotta admit–I took the bait. Stucky is one helluva troll.
Even you, my old friend, can’t tell when I am trolling, or not?
I like Dennis Praeger. Go to his website and read some of his articles. I’ll bet you, and others, would agree with him 95% of the time.
I especially liked his article about no longer cheering for the US Women National soccer team — fuck ’em!! — even though, as you well know, I have been a huge soccer fan all my life.
Disagree or disagee, at least Praeger is rational. You won’t get bombarded with all the hysterical “fuck da joos!!! … joos are evil!!!” bullshit spewed here on a near daily basis.
Joo Derangement Syndrome … it’s 10x more deadly than Trump Derangement Syndrome. Really.
Not so speedy this day.
No
Praeger is rational and repeats the arguments we all know are true on many points.
I can tell you this: in our community, the only folks who refused to meet my friend who is a jew-loving Christian Zionist Minister who lived in Israel for years were a family of General Baptists. Everyone else was cool with the idea Margy might show up here with a few Jews.
When I told my Baptist neighbor that she brought me a list of Scripture to explain why God does not give a flying fuck about any Jew, even old Mary, Undoer of Knots. (Who, by the way? Undid some DOOZIES for me and my friends and I hope for Ms. Freud.)
I have her notepaper with the proof God has forgotten Jews were once beloved like you and I.
I believe the Zuni Indians will inherit North America and Quetzacoatl shall bring the Masked Gods from the center of the earth to set things right.
And if that does not get me trolled by a trolling bird and get you to 100 nada.will.
I did…am stubborn. And Wiley.
Stucky, King of the Trolls.
King Fling…there is a picture.
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It is because.he.secretly believes both.
I only skimmed the title on the road.
At least it is safe from.stalkers…so far.
Bring it!
No one could be such a moron. He gets paid to write this trash (like the previous garbage about alternative medicine), then disappears for a while and returns with the next moronic drivel. Probably someone else writes the krap because I doubt this idiot can compose a legible sentence.
REAL AMERICANS DEFEND AMERICA and do not whore for other countries.
Real CHRISTIAN Americans defend countries which GOD loves. And since God loves Israel — only mentioned a hundred different times in the Bible (!!!) — then it makes logical sense that real CHRISTIAN Americans speak, and act, in defense of Israel.
You, otoh, are just a fucken hater, and you make no sense whatsoever. Hate has fucked you up, and you don’t even know it. So sad ….
real Christians defend ALL LIFE <3
Gold Meir: Born in Russia, raised in Milwaukee. That’s your median Jew. I have no particular love for the Palestinian Muslims, but in 1850 there weren’t many Jews in what is now Israel. They’d been run out of there centuries earlier mostly by the Romans. So the comparison with Italy is inapt – as Prager knows full well. A better comparison would be if a bunch of people who said they were Etruscans or maybe Phoenicians invaded Italy and declared themselves the rightful owners. Because of their book.
My biggest gripe is that every time I read something that argues for letting the entire Third World into the US (with our having no say in the matter) it’s written by some neuter named Jon Steinbergweissbergbergstein. Sorry for noticing.
Iska, would you pronounce that last name phonetically please?
Eyeguy all the way down to Vanunu is right on target.
What double talking bull.shit
Stucky!!!
WTF. This guy makes a Compelling argument???
Good God man, what’s happened to you. Not even Llpoh could defend this article.
“Not even Llpoh could defend this article.”
Lol. Even odds.
AC.
you’re covered.
Llpoh will defend this article. I guarantee it. He, unlike so many others here, is supremely logical (and fair), and not consumed by hate.
We are the who are illogical, unfair and consumed by hate for believing facts. You mean the kind of blind hatred you have for Robert Gore?
Get your facts straight, you stupid shit. Robert Gore and I mended fences a long time ago.
The article makes a few good points – I especially like the bit about Pakistan being carved out of India and no one says they are illegitimate. Then there is Ireland, etc.
But there are a lot of fallacies in there. One can certainly be anti-Zionist in my opinion and not anti-Semite. It is reasonable to object to a nation being created out of zilch and being handed over to any group I mean, what right did the US/Britain/France have to do that? If I were a Palestinian, that would piss me off to no end.
On the other hand, it is within the realm of possibility that the Israelis could have done it the old-fashioned way, and simply taken Israel by force. In my book, THAT would have made them legitimate. After all, almost ALL nations were formed thusly.
I care not one whit about Israel. I do not care whether they survive as a nation or not. I do not believe they should be receiving aid from the US. It is very simple – if they can keep Israel, it is theirs. Same goes for any nation. Israel has been under attack continuously since the day it was formed. So far, they have kept it, against constant opposition.
But as I said – I do not care. I am neutral on the matter. I understand why they do what they do, and why the Muslims do the same. None of m business.
I have expressed my theory as to why they keep getting aid. I think it likely it is because the US feels if Israel can protect itself conventionally, it will not nuke the Arabs to dust if it feels threatened.
Llpoh.
I should have said You wouldn’t defend this article for the reason you stated.
Zionism is a movement. Opposing it doesn’t make me an anti semetic.
Zionism includes the Jewish desire to rule the world and all the goyim from their world capital.
You mean just like the US, Russia, China, the UK before, the Romans, the Greeks, the Mongols, the Muslims (who REALLY want to do so) etc etc etc.
So much Semite .
“To be anti-Zion is exactly the same as being anti-Semitic.”
And?
Most of today’s jews occupying Palestine are NOT “semites” but are eastern European converts to judaism. As such, it is laughable to see these eastern European converts call Arabs and Palestinians “anti-semites” when in fact , they ARE true “semites”.
The “pot calling the kettle black” indeed…
Stucky, the ultimate shit-stirring monkey. Keep it up.
Speaking of ((them))… did you hear what the Dotard and Chief recently said? Oh it’s a doozy!
I intentionally linked the Huffington Post article as it included each of the tweets and the actual video from today.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-chosen-one-antichrist-twitter_n_5d5d7e18e4b0d043dd744236
#chosen one and #antichrist are bow trending…
The mockery of Christ and attack on Christianity through guilt by association intensifies with more Twattle from Trump
Plato..
No surprise there.
But don’t worry , Q says save ((them)) for last .
Bwahahaha
He actually said “I am the chosen juan” …. a play on words with reference to the Chink currency.
He was saying he is more powerful than the Chinese currency and will destroy it. Can I get an Amen?
Bwahahaba. Priceless.
Stucky, I’ve said this very thing on more than one occasion. I believe the first one was in an essay that Mary Christine posted probably 6 months ago. I stated then as Dennis Prager does in that article that being anti-Zionism is being anti-Semitic. Not surprisingly, I was castigated for it.
Although he does not go into it, I believe that the awaking by many of what the likes of the Rothschild’s and other banksters that are Jewish have done to bilk nations and peoples for centuries is enough reason to throw the whole race into the same barrel.
God bless you for you have seen the light.
Sigh…Stucky obviously didn’t get enough comments with his last post.
mary christine,
he’ll never get enough comments,it’s like an addiction,the next high has to be higher than this one–
Having fun … getting people involved …. “forcing” people to think …. flinging a little shit here and there …. those are my motivations!!!
Your belief that I contribute here for a high comment count is a lie straight from the pits of hell.
I get that…I thought we wanted more opinions to sort and sift.
Kind of a chaff eliminating effort.
quit sucking up to him,whoever you are–you can’t be maggie since she never kisses up to stucky–
He is my big lumberjacking off pal.
i ain’t touching that one–
Sheesh, Stucky, it was a joke. I should have included a winking smiley.
I want to compliment you on your ability to continue to post while dealing with all of your family issues. I can’t seem to do the same. I have all these topics floating around in my head but a 37 yr old daughter with some major mental issues keeps me distracted. It has begun to affect my grandson and the rest of the family keeps arguing about what to do.
So keep up the posts. The more shit flinging, the better, for taking my mind off of my own problems for a while.
King Fling is a.Crusader.
How.ia.gramdson’s.arms? I met a woman with a similar.break yesterday. She was a.blessimg.to listen to and her husband taking the same stress.test.
Who doesn’t like high comment counts? As long as they are interesting, funny, or flinging shit back and forth I’m in. The ones that aren’t I scroll past. I’m thinking about challenging the contention that Hebrews is written for the future. I don’t think that is completely true but if I can find time to do a little research and get back here in a timely manner, I will.
Dig right in! Best stuff on earth!
Israel practices official “apartheid” to a much greater degree than that of any other country in the world—the former South Africa included.
Every vehicle driver in Israel proper and in the illegally occupied territories is identified by his or her vehicle license plate as well as personal documentation (identity papers). License plates are coded as to the ethnicity and religious persuasions of the owners, and are used to deny basic “rights” to those who are of “the wrong ethnicity”.
There are roads and thoroughfares that are designated “for jews only”. “Jews-only” roads and thoroughfares are state-of-the-art, paid for with American taxpayer dollars, while roads used by Palestinians are poorly maintained, with many military “checkpoints” which adds further misery to the lives of Palestinians.
Any Arab or Palestinian who attempts to use “jews only” roads or thoroughfares is arrested and heavily fined.
This policy even extends to “footpaths” which are designated by “jewishness”.
Palestinians and other Arabs are forced to go through humiliating “checkpoints”, even being delayed for HOURS, if they are even allowed to pass, at the whim of the jewish “authorities”. This even extends to medical emergencies, where ambulances are routinely delayed by jewish authorities, “just because they can”.
In Israel proper, and in the illegally occupied territories, Israeli officials make rules and laws as they go along, ignoring the (official) laws (rule of law) already in place.
On a whim, any Israeli official can declare that a building, other structure, planted farmland, water wells, and other basic facilities owned by Palestinians are “illegal” and subject to destruction by Israeli forces.
This even applies to buildings, lands, orchards and crop-producing lands which have been in Palestinian possession for centuries. All the Israeli military has to do is to declare the Palestinian-owned property to be a “military zone”. No other laws or permissions are needed to expropriate land from the Palestinians.
Water is heavily restricted in Gaza and in the Palestinian areas while jewish settlements can use all the water they want.
This is a continuing process that is forcing Palestinians off their land and facilitating the building of jewish “settlements” in the illegally occupied areas.
Let’s turn to the treatment of Christians in Israel proper. In the tourist areas, jewish authorities try to keep the disrespect for Christianity to a minimum so as not to insult their Christian zionist tourists. In fact, the hatred for Christian churches, and Christians in general is so pervasive, it is not surprising to see jews “spit” when walking past a Christian church. Jews are experts at “graffiti”, calling it “price tagging” which they use to good effect as the authorities generally “look the other way” when the vandalism and destruction of Christian facilities by jews is going on.
The Israeli authorities plan specific itineraries for Christian zionist groups and American politicians so they do not witness the overt, outright hatred that jews have for Christians, You see, “it’s all for show” when it comes to begging for American dollars from the American taxpayers and from these misguided Christian zionist groups.
The irony of the situation is that the Palestinians who have lived in the middle east for centuries and even millennia are reduced to being unwelcome in their own land while jewish interlopers, most of them from the United States and Europe are overlords in Israel and in the illegally occupied territories.
Some lat out lies in there.
Here are the facts:
* The overwhelming majority of roads in the West Bank are open to all traffic. However, for security reasons, a very small percentage of West Bank roads around Israeli settlements (about 40 km in total according to the Israeli human rights organisation B’tselem) are prohibited to Palestinian traffic. But, even these 40 km of restricted roads are open to Israeli citizens of all faiths (including Muslims), east Jerusalem Palestinians (most of whom are Muslim), and foreign visitors of all faiths – Jews, Muslims, Christians, Druze and Circassians.
* Moreover, even the 40 km of restricted roads in Israeli controlled sections of the West Bank (Area C) should be placed in context. Israelis, for instance, are not permitted to drive on roads in the Palestinian controlled West Bank (Area A). This is because PA security personnel (and the IDF) can’t guarantee the safety of drivers with Israeli license plates travelling in Palestinian areas.
Palestinians ain’t Israelis. They do not get Israeli plates.
If we had such a system here, I’m sure it would be fine. Right?
Palestinians ain’t Israelis and are foreigners you know, right?
Foreigners in their own land. Just like our native Indians?
True Torah Jews Don’t agree with Prager.
ANTI ZIONISM DOES NOT EQUAL ANTI SEMITISM.
The very first article on their website.
For the reading comprehension challenged they have a you-tube site.
Type in IDENTITY THEIVES 7/8/2017 or ISRAELS NATION STATE LAW 8/22/2018.
If you can find someone to read for you try “A History of Central Banking and The Enslavement of Mankind. Just 190 short pages with 6 pages of documentation.
Practical, fair and not full of hate.
Nothing worse than a CSAH….
Those nice Jewish boys over in Israel have formally begun expelling the Native residents of Gaza.
Gilad Atzmon 8-21-19, Redress Information and Analysis.
“Paletinian Nabka is here”.
I suppose that doesn’t count as anti Semitism even though the Paletinians are more Semite than most Israelis.
That entire area — ALL of them — makes it difficult for me to adhere to the Golden Rule. I really want to, and then I remember how that area has contributed mightily to the disintegration of our government.
oil
How about this, Dennis?
1. Get your fucking lobbyists out of OUR capital.
2. We’re no longer selling weapons to any country in the Middle East.
3. We’re no longer offering foreign aid to any country outside of our hemisphere, for starters.
Agree to the above and you can keep your loony Zion. Somehow, though, I have this feeling 1 or more of the above are non-starters for you. Because it really IS all about the Benjamins.
PS: Pharisees killed my Lord and you fuckers don’t even have the dignity to admit it, Caiaphas. If you’d admit that fact and the Catholic Church would admit to being a den of pedophiles, we could get on with the forgiveness. Until then, quit acting like a bigger pussy than pussies!
PPS: Quit being obtuse about the Romans owning you like little bitches, yet throwing sand at the Palestinians for “losing the 1967 war”. You’re a hypocrite.
I like you boy,want to meet der Furher?
Oh yeah, God forbid I don’t throw want to throw money at a bunch of beggars and INSTEAD want more of MY hard-earned cash to feed my three children. Fuck ’em, let ’em EARN survival like most everyone else.
Now jump up my ass and grab a ham sandwich, you big fat set of labia hiding behind a moniker.
1. Hiroshima
2. Nagasaki
3. Tehran?
4. Tel Aviv?
5. Damascus?
“There are no atheist Christians because Christianity is only a religion.”
Christianity is the 100% absence of religion.
More manipulation…. They are in our business tooth and nail, control all of Hollywood, control virtually all of the media, are buried in the top posts throughout our government like a dog tick, were fighting all their wars, they control all the monetary controls, and truth be told, I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t own 90% of American corporations…… What else explains all the off shoring, and their eternal lust for greed at the expense of their so-called host country and it’s people.
Yes, the article is entire BS….. Just another manipulative article of the hundreds they post each and every day. Italy doesn’t do things like that to us and neither does any other contry I
the world, not Russia or even China…. Israel is to blame and the reason I don’t repent is that they never repent, it’s always manipulation and more manipulation….. No such thing as living in peace and harmony long term with these people because in general, but not all, they are the most racist group of people on the planet toward the gentile and yes they do consider themselves a race as well as a religion so don’t ever believe the religion only thing when they try to use that manipulative tactic. They are for themselves and their people only, U.S. or anyone else be damned…… And when they get in trou let for ut, it is always poor me, anti-Semitism, your racist….. Nothing but blabber…..
Yes, it was!
I still got it, Coyote.
I have no problems with Israel or the Jews. I would like them to stop receiving any money from the U.S. though. The rest of the planet also.
Since Judaism came 600 years after Christianity , the blasphemy would more aptly be called Christian-Judaism or the shiny turd that requires perpetual polish.
On a separate, although completely associated note:
“It is objected of the Jew in finance, in industry, in commerce — where he is ubiquitous and powerful out of all proportion to his numbers — that he seeks, and has already reached, dominion. It is objected that he acts everywhere against the interests of his hosts; that these are being interfered with, guided, run against their will; that a power is present which acts either with indifference to what we love or in active opposition to what we love. Notably it is said to be indifferent to, or in active opposition against our national feelings, our religious traditions, and the general cultural and morals of Christendom which we have inherited and desire to preserve: that power is Israel.” Hilare Belloc
http://www.unz.com/article/reflections-on-hilaire-bellocs-the-jews-1922/
Back to Judaeo-Christianity .
There is no path to heaven for Judaists . If you cannot accept this absolute, then you cannot be a Christian.
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
1) That’s a typo.
2) You’re dyslexic.
3) You just went Full Retard.
In the The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit by E Micheal Jones covers the advent of Judasim extensively. Judaism is not the religion of the ancient Hebrews. It is more closely associated with occultism than religion.
Regardless, any way you parce it Stuck, even Jewish scholars call bullshit on Judaism , but for different reasons. One being anti-Christianity. Three strikes and you’re out.
” One of the greatest living scholars of the Talmud, Daniel Boyarin ponders the place where the two traditions were born, in brotherly rivalry but with a common biblical origin
His latest book thus joins a series of studies that call into question the popular-naive conception of Judaism. Starkly put, Boyarin asserts that until a few hundred years ago, there was no such thing as “Judaism,” in the sense of an abstract category of thought and thus of life. Indeed, the term is not found in the Torah, Prophets or Writings, the Mishna or Talmud, the works of the early medieval Geonim, of Rabbi Judah Halevi or of Maimonides. None of them knew of the existence of such a thing as “Judaism.” The term’s first appearances date from the 12th century (for example, in the “Midrash Sekhel Tov,” by Rabbi Menachem Ben Shlomo), and even then it denotes not a particular culture or a particular religion but a condition – that is, the condition of being a Jewish person.
His latest book thus joins a series of studies that call into question the popular-naive conception of Judaism. Starkly put, Boyarin asserts that until a few hundred years ago, there was no such thing as “Judaism,” in the sense of an abstract category of thought and thus of life. Indeed, the term is not found in the Torah, Prophets or Writings, the Mishna or Talmud, the works of the early medieval Geonim, of Rabbi Judah Halevi or of Maimonides. None of them knew of the existence of such a thing as “Judaism.” The term’s first appearances date from the 12th century (for example, in the “Midrash Sekhel Tov,” by Rabbi Menachem Ben Shlomo), and even then it denotes not a particular culture or a particular religion but a condition – that is, the condition of being a Jewish person.
In his book, Boyarin traces the origin of the term, naturally not confining himself to Hebrew but also investigating the Greek loudaismos, Yiddishkayt in Yiddish, Judentum in German and “Judaism” in English. The author arrives at the conclusion that “Judaism” is not a Jewish term. Jews talk about the people of Israel, about Hebrews, about the Israelites and the Sons of the Covenant and several other collective attributes, but not about any sort of faith-based or theological structure. This notion of religion originates in Christianity, which began as a voluntary framework (after all, one wasn’t born Christian in the first century) and emphasizes correct faith.”
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-how-christians-invented-judaism-according-to-a-top-talmud-scholar-1.7417536
Thanks be to God, Stucky, that you would take this topic up on The Burning Platform. Its been a long time coming.
Honestly, I
m more disinclined (and bored) to enter into this fray as much as I used to be so Ill be brief.What really pisses me off about the anti jew sentiment is that its based on “The Blame Game”. The same game that destroyed (slaughtered is a better term) countless of innocent men, women and children. My God!!! And for what? To find a new enemy that eventually looks just like us in the mirror?
Its always The U.S.S. Liberty, The Rothchilds et al. The former in hostile surrounding waters where anything goes, the latter making money where there shouldn
t have been the opportunity in the first place. The list goes on and on.m not advocating making TBP a “safe place”. (Esp. for cheapskate lurkers like me).I
I end with begging(!!!) the Blame Game Players to peruse their information base a lot more critically than they do. I suspect they`ll find themselves latched to a teat (opposing forces) that would embarrass them.
Thank you, Admin.
Just speaking for myself, but I am not anti-Semitic. Not that I will attempt to defend it because fuck off to the people who doubt it.
HOWEVER: I am anti-foreign aid. I am anti-foreign-intervention. I am anti-arms-as-a-service (what I call AAAS, pronounced like “ASS”). I am anti-cry-me-a-river.
Israel can do whatever the fuck it wants to do for all I care. But the fact that we have latched ourselves to their endgame is what causes us a TREMENDOUS amount of turmoil and ill will around the world. For good reason!
Stop thinking anti-semite or anti-zionist.
Start thinking anti-talmudic.
So it’s settled then.
ANTI ZIONISM IS A HATE CRIME BECAUSE AN ANTI ZIONIST HATES JEWS. THEREFORE IT IS AGAINST THE LAW.
Bible and Sword: England and Palestine from the Bronze Age to Balfour by Barbara W Tuchman
TBP is now a Zionist Israel loving website. Complete with Speech and Hate Crime police and Phony Chaplains to ensure compliance with Rapture and Israel first doctrine replete with an Amen Choir.
Now if you can just get Trump reelected he will make you an official part of Israel like Palestine and The Golan Heights with Ivanka no-guns Kushner as your Princess.
Well, I hope you don’t feel that way because of something I said! Just to be clear;
—1) I don’t give a rat’s ass about Israel. Just like I don’t give a rat’s ass about 98% of the other nations of the world …. in terms of whether or not they exist. I live in America, am an American, and care mostly about America, and hope that God spares America for its dickish ways.
—2) It PISSES ME OFF (!!!!) that we give them billions of dollars in aid every year. I’d like it to be $0. Actually, ALL foreign aid pisses me off regardless of who we give it to. I’m all in for helping out POOR countries when they experience disasters … other than that. fuck off and stop begging!
—3) I think Judaism is a horrible shitty religion — just in the OT, not to mention all the oral law crap. It is only marginally better than Islam.
—4) I’ve had many Jewish friends. Still do. Not one of them has been overly religious … secular Jews mostly, go to synagogue on holidays and that’s about it. You know … like most Christians in America today. I would never befriend a highly religious Jew — fuck them and their we’re-better-than-you attitude.
—5) Jews certainly have waaaaay more power (in politics, media, legal, etc. etc.) than their meager population numbers indicate they should have. This also pisses me off. Maybe I’m just jealous. But, I am very suspicious of the blame-Jews-for-everything meme that often prevails around here.
—6) I think Joo jokes are hilarious.
Stucky…
My Jewish Nieces and Nephews and the Jewish in laws that come with them are pretty secular or worldly. Some even eat pork, the equivalent of a Baptist smoking. They all go to Synagogue because it’s where their social life is centered. They resent the Zionist co-opting of all Jews but refuse to speak out due to repercussions. The Israeli Zionists and their Evangelical patsies have taken over international Jewry in that they now claim to be protectors of all jews everywhere without their direct approval. They have deliberately turned Zionism from a movement to a country, a race and a religion with headquarters in Israel. This makes all jews complicit because the secular Jews and the Zionists know that they will be tarred with the same brush. This is why I use the line IT’S THE JEWS PERIOD. Until we and they realize the laser dots on our chests are all from the same swat team we can’t effect a solution because we can’t identify the problem. We just keep indentifying the latest symptoms.
Rabbi Yaakon Shapiro does a good job of explaining how the Israeli Zionists have taken over all Jewry by nefarious method.
stucky,
a couple of points here–
foreign aid is a tiny % of our federal budget & it buys us mucho influence/power around the world–
jews would not have nearly the power/influence they do if whites were disciplined enough to do the right thing,ex.,stay away from deniro movies–
as long as they aren’t being told in a derogatory manner,most jews i’ve known think jew jokes are hilarious–
after 52 years,i still want the truth about the uss liberty–
lastly,what’s the current comment count?
Three billion is still three billion dollars …. which is about $9 bucks for every
man, woman, and child in the country.
So, that means Ms. Freud, my mom, and me spent $27 contributing to Israel. Fuck that shit!!! If I had an extra $27 to spend I’d donate it to a valuable cause, like #cockroachLivesMatter … and not a bunch of fuktards in the middle east.
What influence are we buying from Israel???
The comment count is about 175. This pathetic bitch won’t even hit 200.
congrats,it blew past 200–
@Fleabaggs
“TBP is now a Zionist Israel loving website. Complete with Speech and Hate Crime police and Phony Chaplains to ensure compliance with Rapture and Israel first doctrine replete with anAmen Choir.
Now if you can just get Trump reelected he will make you an official part of Israel like Palestine and The Golan Heights with Ivanka no-guns Kushner as your Princess.”
Well Said!!! I agree that TBP has become a Zionist loving website … and, yes, the Phony Chaplains part is also right on. Any guesses?
Hey, TBP Admin … you scraped the bottom of the barrel by posting this Stucky-written article.
I didn’t write the article. I only provided introductory comments. You are truly a genius.
But, you are correct. I am a Jew loving cocksucker. I apologize.
ADMIN, PLEASE BAN ME IMMEDIATELY !!!!!
This site is full of austrians, mexicans, irish and indians but its the wops who run the world. Dago lovers will rot in hell. Pizza. Think about it. Its there in plain site.
What you got against Pizza?
Poppa Grooch knew a.guy painted.houses in Cleveland.
IPNW..
GCP and Brewer are the anointed Chaplains Biblical purity.
baggs,get back on your meds–
red..
You should consider getting off your blue meds.
Never mind the snide insults, tell me how I’m wrong about them.
Imagine! A trump lover telling someone they need meds. Are you tapping Ivanka?
i never kiss & tell–
i’ll give you a hint though,she always has a smile on her face when she gets back from er weekend trips to florida–
melania too–
And your house reeks of gefilte fish when they leave.
gefilte,tilapia,salmon,it’s all the same after it’s fried & you have some slaw & beans w/it–
“…and Phony Chaplains to ensure compliance with Rapture and Israel first doctrine replete with an Amen Choir.”
“IPNW..
GCP and Brewer are the anointed Chaplains Biblical purity.”
You are clear out of your mind if you think I push an Israel first doctrine, and there is very little phony about me if that slant was pointed in my direction. On the other hand, Gods wrath cannot/will not be poured out on the earth while His body is present in it. Saved people have already seen the wrath of God poured out vicariously on them through His Son. Thus the splendor of His gracious gift. The translation of the church will take place and then the world will witness first hand what Christ already took upon himself on its behalf.
GCP..
The position of chaplain of tbp is phony. I have no doubts that you’re sincere. You have made no effort to refuse the mantle since you came here.
Wrath is not the same as tribulation and persecution.
Pre-trib rapture was created by and is a central tenant of Israel First Zionism. Justifying it with Biblical gymnastics makes one complicit.
“The position of chaplain of tbp is phony.”
It’s not a position I claim… those are your words. I just know what I know and share what I know. Some folks know economics and share that. Others know other things and share their knowledge. Nothing more, nothing less. I’m responsible for no one here. Y’all are on your own.
“Pre-trib rapture was created by and is a central tenant of Israel First Zionism. ”
Then how do you explain my position? I’m anti Israel first and pro pre-trib rapture; not “complicit” in promoting ANYTHING Israel is doing today. It is a counterfeit nation. Biblical gymnastics is not a thing I practice. Just read the words and allow them to say what they say and mean what they say.
I only hate jews because they want to destroy my race, religion, people and country. Other than that, I have no problem with jews.
175 or 6
25 or 6 to 4
Now I gotta hear…
are you old enough to remember this song?
25 or 6 to 4 is another good song by them,which stucky referenced above me–
Jewish pseudoscientists, Israel, 1948, the CIA, and a magic wand!
You couldn’t have hoaxed nuclear weapons and a 74 year cold war without them.
Bonus: It’s not 80 or 90 but 100 days now since Zio-Barr was authorized by Zio-Drumpf to start releasing unredacted horse-shit.
100 days and yawn.
Two original articles …… 622 comments.
“By the second post Stucky had finished the work he had been doing; so after the second post The King of Fling rested from all his work.”
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Oh Brother……….
Stucky puts da “joo” in adjudicated, cause he is da Judge. If he says you are a anti-semite then you must be.
Note to Stucky- That picture is incorrect as Jeebus is now a black female.
a little too far,mock allah,not jc or his pappy–
You are riot.
Sultan of Fling!