Stockholm Syndrome

Guest Post by Eric Peters

If four-year-old Chevys, Fords or Toyotas were bricking – going inert, not moving – and needed thousands of dollars of repairs to get going moving again – the people who owned them would demand a recall and other people would never buy a Chevy or a Ford or a Toyota, for the obvious reasons.

The government might even get involved!

But when it comes to electric cars, there’s a sort of Stockholm Syndrome. No matter how outrageous the defect or inherent the flaw, EVs remain the object of doe-eyed reverence and limitless apologia. They can do no wrong. Or rather there is – apparently – no amount of wrong they can do that the people who own them aren’t willing to abide.

The latest being as above. Teslas less than four years old (which is almost all of them, as the company didn’t sell – offload – more than a handful of them until about four years ago) are going inert because of a burned-out chip, basically.

But it’s a critical chip. One of many such that determine whether these 4,000-plus pound cell phones work – or don’t.

Something called the eMMC, which is soldered onto a motherboard called the MCU, or Media Control Unit (there are two iterations of the eMMC – MCUv1 and MCUv2, depending on your Tesla). The chip’s job is memory retention – “flash storage” – of data accumulated about various operating parameters. The memory is overwritten as it fills up, to make way for new data. Over time, the chip becomes Alzheimerian – it loses its capacity to remember.

And then the car forgets things – like how to recharge.

The telescreen display inside the cabin through which everything is displayed (and via which the driver can be monitored) goes dark and with it, everything else. The owner can no longer access the functions whose icons no longer appear.

There is nothing to tap or swipe.

Teslas – and a rapidly increasing number of new cars, including non-electric cars – use telescreens (LCD touchscreens) to both display information about the car’s workings and to work the car’s systems, including the stereo, AC and so on. When you lose the screen, you lose control over those functions.

Not just one.

No screen, no anything.

So – effectively – no car

To get those functions back, you’ll have to replace the fritzed out telescreen/touchscreen – and/or whatever else is wrong with the car’s electronic guts.

The Teslas also won’t recharge when the screen goes dark – which is like having an IC car with a fuel door that won’t unlock.

You ain’t a’ goin’ nowhere, city boy.

Not until you pay Tesla a lot of money.

Replacing the sick chip entails specialist work and about $1,800-$3,000 according to the InsideEVs article which publicized the problem and quoted several Tesla experts, including Robert Coltran – who described the process as follows:

“We remove the MCU from the car and dismantle it completely. Then we are able to extract the unique identifying authentication keys from the eMMC even though part of it is corrupt. These keys are necessary for the car to authenticate against the Tesla network and give the user access to firmware updates and the Tesla app.”

Note the italicized portions.

In order to perform the repair – and not just this repair – the “user” must be “authenticated” before he is allowed to “access the Tesla network.” Back in the pre-telescreen and eMMC days, one didn’t need to obtain permission from Rochester to adjust the choke. And more importantly, Rochester couldn’t adjust the choke for you. 

Tesla has reversed this relationship.

It exerts physical control (via electronic control) over other people’s property. Well, what is at least still nominally other people’s property. The Tesla buyer’s name may be on the title paperwork but if Tesla retains control over the vehicle then Tesla owns the vehicle as a practical matter. The person who paid for it is in a position similar to that of the “owner” of a cell phone that’s “no longer supported” by the manufacturer and rendered useless, just like that. Or which insolently “updates” itself whether you asked for the “update” or not.

There’s another analogy, too.

The Tesla owner is like the “homeowner” who paid off his mortgage years ago but continues to receive demands for money from the actual owner of his home – i.e., the government. 

Which also requires him to obtain its permission to build an addition or put in a new bathroom. In some cases, even to change the windows or exterior color of “his” home. But at least the government isn’t – yet – an electronic presence in your home.

Wait. The “Internet of Things” (not just cars) is coming.

Meanwhile, we have this spectacle to marvel at.

Four-year-old Teslas that stop working – until their owners drop $1,800-$3,000 to repair them. If a Ford or Chevy or Toyota – if any non-electric car – took a dump like this at four years or even eight years out, it’d trigger howls of outrage, rightly so. A car that took such a dump would be considered a lemon. Bad news.

But the news coverage of this business is insouciant. It is No Big Deal. Just roll with it. Or rather, don’t.

And this is just the beginning, probably. Because EVs are enormously complicated electronic devices –  and electronic things just don’t last as long as mechanical things. How many people are reading this article on a computer more than five years old? How about ten? How old is your sail fawn?

EVs are going to develop expensive problems much sooner than their IC analogs. EV motors may be simple things – but the electronics which control the car are not. Especially the electronics which control the battery pack and its discharge/charge cycling. Over time – over hot summers and cold winters and humid days and jarring potholes and all the other things a car is exposed to, every day – chips will fritz, solderered connections will fail, motherboards will crack – and that will be that.

And Elon will smile. So will the other purveyors of EVs, who will be able to charge you sooner (and harder) to unbrick your EV. And then sell you another one.

Mechanical things wear, too, of course. But they still work as they wear until they wear out. Brake pads that have used up 50 percent of their wear surfaces still work perfectly well until they wear out the remaining 50 percent. A chip or motherboard either works – or not. One day the screen lights up.

Tomorrow it doesn’t.

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45 Comments
Parris Island
Parris Island
October 23, 2019 11:53 am

IMO a Tesla is a funeral pyre on wheels. No way would I have my loved ones in that car.

starfcker
starfcker
  Parris Island
October 23, 2019 7:45 pm

“do you guys want to make some money? The stock at $215. is a bargain. You could probably make 50% in 6 weeks. Dumbfcker June 14th. okay, so it took a couple extra months. I still have gaps in my game. I appreciate all the kind comments.

Brian
Brian
  Parris Island
October 23, 2019 11:32 pm

I was thinking single use mobile crematoria, but pyre works too.

the experienced
the experienced
October 23, 2019 12:18 pm

Electronic can be made to last if the manufacturer so chooses. I owned a 20 year old power stroke, which has electronic engine controls, and every thing electrical on it worked fine. I got rid of a six year old Suburban, because of constant electronic failures. I had to replace a failing engine harness on a six year old European GMC, while the electrical harness of my 30 year old farm tractor showed no wear and worked perfectly. I had a 12 year old Dell laptop working flawlessly, while my six year old iPad is starting to act like the above Tesla.

ZigZag
ZigZag
  the experienced
October 23, 2019 2:24 pm

… the magic words you seek are : kill switch and planned obsolescence.

Donkey
Donkey
October 23, 2019 1:23 pm

My father thinks I’m crazy for wanting a 1970 Monte Carlo.

James
James
  Donkey
October 23, 2019 5:35 pm

Donkey,while not my personal choice(do like Monte’s)is a great idea.A car you or any average tech can work on/inexpensive parts/doesn’t look like every other car out there,I could go on.I will say a decent one a bit costly but then compared to cost of new piece of road junk perhaps not soo bad.I love 70’s and backwards time wise vehicles,just more of a 4×4 guy though did go through a slew of hot rods(and never should have sold any of em!).

I ever decided on another hot rod would probably get a goat,and would probably be about 20 thou for a decent one.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  James
October 23, 2019 11:56 pm

Sammy Davis Jr.; Here come the Judge, here come the judge.

Hollowpoint
Hollowpoint
  Anonymous
October 24, 2019 8:04 am

That was Flip Wilson, but you’re close enough. Both are beloved by all Goodwhites.

A
A
October 23, 2019 1:29 pm

It shouldn’t come as a surprise that the service for an EV is more akin to taking your computer into the Geek Squad. I agree that Tesla has gone too far with the Apple Computer model being proprietary on everything and not letting Tesla owners truly “own” their vehicles. That’s fine if that’s how they want to roll but they should’ve sold them as lease only in that case. There’s a guy on Youtube that has hacked more than a few Teslas and it doesn’t look like a fleeting hobby.

I still take issue with the thesis here because internal combustion vehicles today are computers on wheels too. While there is a large network of mechanics that have the tools to diagnose and fix those vehicles it’s not the 1960’s where most any automotive problem was purely mechanical and could be fixed by most shade tree mechanics.

The $3k fix on a Tesla isn’t expensive or unusual when compared to what it costs to fix computer issues on similarly priced vehicles like $100k Benzes and Bimmers. I know many people that own those German makes and are conditioned to pay a min $1k every time they take them in. While I don’t know any Tesla owners I’d expect they are in the same lot, driving for status more than frugality.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
October 23, 2019 2:00 pm

My naive wife bought a washing machine that has a computer chip that decides when there is enough water for the load and it never adds enough water or rinses clothes well enough. We called it in for an adjustment and they said sorry charlie, that’s just the way it is; thank you NWO Ivy League Morons. I’m dumping in water several times per cycle but am looking for an older type washer.

diverdown
diverdown
  robert h siddell jr
October 23, 2019 5:12 pm

Too right, Robert.

Bought a new Whirlpool Cabrio that had all the electronic
bells and whistles, but after about a year-and-a-half the
thing refused to properly balance a load during the spin
cycle and, being unbalanced, would then simply shut
down.

Required a new motherboard at a cost of $375 just to
simply wash, rinse, and spin dry.

Bought an old-fashioned Hotpoint with NO electronics
(like the ones your Mom & Dad had — all mechanical)
on sale at Lowe’s for $299 (included delivery, setup, and
haul away of the Cabrio) and it’s already lasted twice
as long and is still going strong.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  diverdown
October 23, 2019 7:05 pm

Buy the new commercial coin ones and deactivate the coin slot. Those things are all industrialized mechs no computers whatsoever

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  robert h siddell jr
October 23, 2019 7:38 pm

Speed Queen still makes a good old fashioned washer and dryer set with analog electrical controls, just like the old and good ones. I bought a set in 2007 and have had ZERO problems. My mother bought a set year before last and they were very similar to what I have. There is no planned obsolescence from that manufacturer! The domestic model looks just like the apartment models minus the coin feed actuated on switch.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
  Coalclinker
October 23, 2019 10:04 pm

Thanks for the info!!

Socratic Dog
Socratic Dog
  Coalclinker
October 24, 2019 7:02 am

Dated comment. I looked into it a year ago when my old Kenwood failed. Speed Queen were forced to stop making the mechanical model. They’re ALL as described above now. Worthless computerized junk, that don’t clean your clothes and fail horribly quickly.

I did some research and fixed my (mechanical) Kenwood. Easier than I expected. Parts widely available, not too expensive. I imagine there will be a thriving market in old machines within a few years.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Socratic Dog
October 24, 2019 8:54 am

Yep you’re right. Those kind of things happen when you’re living in the days of a collapsing empire. My 2007 Speed Queen has joined my 1930 Garland gas range and my late 1960s avocado green Empire coffee percolator as symbols of a once glorious past.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
October 23, 2019 2:15 pm

How disgusting that the name of a great and innovative inventor is being pulled down by this POS company and their inadequate toy cars.

James
James
  MrLiberty
October 23, 2019 5:37 pm

I agree Liberty,is also a insult to the Band that took the moniker of Tesla and did the name proud!

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
October 23, 2019 2:18 pm

This author is constantly bashing electric vehicles. He’s pissing up a rope as we say in NY.

Yes, there are initial issues and yes, Tesla is using the Apple model where they can tamper with your vehicle to the point it won’t move if they say so. The manufacturers of farming tractors did the same thing and people started hacking them to regain control. It’s just a matter of time before hackers open up Tesla’s walled garden the same way hackers opened up Android. Early adopters are going to feel some pain as the EV market matures.

Having a chip fail or a whole circuit board go belly up isn’t that uncommon in the real world. Did Tesla purposely design something to fail prematurely? I think not. It’s a mistake and they’ll fix it.

This author is raging against the inevitable future of motor vehicles. Today, charging time and range are legitimate issues. Engineers and scientists will improve those areas as fast as humanly possible. No one should expect perfection immediately.

A few years down the road, this author will no longer have an audience for his constant rants against EV’s. Just as the horse and buggy gave way to primitive automobiles, the ICE vehicles will be supplanted by EV’s. The UAW and their massively overpaid members will go the way of the blacksmith as robotics produces an ever increasing percentage of a final assembly. Think of the PC revolution and what it spawned and that’s what the EV market is set to experience.

AC
AC
  Solutions Are Obvious
October 23, 2019 2:45 pm

“Just as the horse and buggy gave way to primitive automobiles, the ICE vehicles will be supplanted by EV’s.”

EVs provide less utility than IC vehicles. Conversion loss alone should have any proponent of EVs laughed out of the room.

They aren’t revolutionary. They are retarded.

A
A
  Solutions Are Obvious
October 23, 2019 3:53 pm

Eric Peters is a car reviewer that thinks innovation in the automotive world should’ve stopped in 1976….ahh, maybe 1996, but either way he rants against technology all the time. Granted, some of it I will lament right along side him, for example the loss of manual transmissions, but largely today’s vehicles are better than they ever have been back to when Karl Benz invented the damn thing in the 1880’s.

His retort is basically we should have unrestricted free market and choice to have highly technical and safe vehicles or simple mechanical death traps. I love to play devils advocate because I don’t buy that there is any market for the vehicles he espouses to love. Not in our culture with easy credit. People want luxury, technology, safety, etc. Cheap vehicles are failures over and over and over again.

Ham Roid
Ham Roid
  A
October 23, 2019 6:02 pm

Yeah. Those cheap 4 cylinder Hondas and Toyotas will never outlast a Tesla. Only idiots would buy a car that’s still running when they finally get it paid off.

Ham Roid
Ham Roid
  Ham Roid
October 23, 2019 6:19 pm

Half the cost of cheap car is for government mandated crap that no one would pay for if they had the choice. Take out the crap, keep a reliable ICO and durable construction, reduce the cost by 40%. And watch how they sell to people who can’t afford a new car otherwise. That’s how free markets work.

Carmakers add luxury because they have to justify the cost of their products being higher due to government regulations. When no one wants to buy your $30,000 subcompact with $15,000 in safety and emissions equipment, you put an iPad on the dashboard. Now that’s luxury.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  A
October 23, 2019 7:52 pm

Modern automatic transmissions are pure unadulterated pieces of shit. When they go bad you’re looking at close to 10 grand to get one fixed. Nothing made today can meet the reliability of an old Plymouth Duster with a Slant Six equipped with a 3 speed on the column transmission. The engines on them would run hundreds of thousands of miles and a clutch replacement was the only problem you’d ever have with the transmission.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
  Coalclinker
October 23, 2019 10:13 pm

I had a “cherry” Datsun wagon like that with over 250,000 miles on it before a commie Judge gave it to my Feminist wife who became a Happy Hooker…

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  robert h siddell jr
October 24, 2019 6:12 am

Be positive about your experience: She’s someone else’s bitch, to whom she likely is one.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Solutions Are Obvious
October 23, 2019 7:43 pm

The whole EV thing is a scam set up by our “leaders”. They want a car that only THEY can afford and YOU will not be able to afford one. I have a solution for the car affordability problem, but first lots of low-life “leaders” and their supporters will have to go away, and I mean never seen or heard from again. No regulations means affordable cars

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
  Coalclinker
October 23, 2019 10:19 pm

Sounds like a great story, tell us more about the Mavens going far far away forever!

Anon
Anon
October 23, 2019 2:28 pm

“It exerts physical control (via electronic control) over other people’s property. Well, what is at least still nominally other people’s property. The Tesla buyer’s name may be on the title paperwork but if Tesla retains control over the vehicle then Tesla owns the vehicle as a practical matter. The person who paid for it is in a position similar to that of the “owner” of a cell phone that’s “no longer supported” by the manufacturer and rendered useless, just like that. Or which insolently “updates” itself whether you asked for the “update” or not.”

This is not limited to Tesla, and, if fact, Tesla is not a pioneer on this front. See, e.g.: https://www.wired.com/2015/04/dmca-ownership-john-deere/

Voltara
Voltara
October 23, 2019 2:43 pm

But aren’t electric cars relatively cheap to service overall? I can understand how a fault develops after 4 years which was not anticipated. They can’t test a car for 4 years before releasing them. And I guess they will fix it for new models. Article seems a little unfair

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Dutch
October 23, 2019 7:46 pm

Some red dot doctor got cooked alive in that pig. At least he got his religious mandated cremation for free.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 23, 2019 5:22 pm

Holy Hell. Peters used “insouciant”. Someone please check PCR’s article to see if he used the word “mulct”.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Anonymous
October 23, 2019 6:02 pm

it’s a sideupdown world–

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  Anonymous
October 23, 2019 7:00 pm

I caught that too.
A useless word used to make others think you have a flashy vocabulary.
The author is only the second person beside PCR that’s used it.

BSHJ
BSHJ
October 23, 2019 5:25 pm

Hmmm….makes you wonder what the re-sale value will be as a ‘used’ car, I can’t imagine that EVs will retain any of their value more than 5 years out

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BSHJ
October 23, 2019 6:28 pm

Replacing the battery will cost more than the vehicle is worth.

TampaRed
TampaRed
October 23, 2019 6:38 pm

this is about elon musk but not about tesla per se —
musk slandered a cave diver who helped get the thai kids out of the cave a year or so back–
he is being sued & is saying that the suit shouldn’t go forward b/c he is illiquid–
though he is worth billions,he has almost no cash & says he should not have to sell stock–

https://www.thewealthadvisor.com/article/elon-musk-pleads-illiquidity-cave-diver-defamation-suit?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTWpVM1lUUXdPREF3TVROayIsInQiOiJhc0xEQU1uQ0FMMkdFUlFNMjVXNTA3M3BEdHFIYjFweFVqYzJmd2NiSEVwMWJRcTBHYXVKcmJwXC9BWnNDS080eFJDM1BzUEJTYndVTmVsS3ZKbjdzanlCUDhmTzFXOVhySlNtaFdxXC9xbUg3cklBT0JYeFR0Q1owRktUXC9VY2hlYyJ9

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 23, 2019 6:42 pm

Tesla is nothing more than a govt experiment to see if they can collect all gps data, all voice and other communication data on drivers and passengers and even cars near them. It is a dystopian vehicle that will be used to usher in non owned vehicle, they will only lease or you can uber rent per shuttle ride. They want to know where everyone is and where they are going and whom they communicate. They want zero privacy. That is why the govt wont allow tesla to got tits up bankrupt. They are setting the narrative these spaceships are too expensive to own and maintain so you rent

SeeBee
SeeBee
  Anonymous
October 23, 2019 9:34 pm

Shock: Elon Musk’s Grandfather Was Head Of Canada’s Technocracy Movement

Not only is Elon a tool of the technocracy…but all the A-hole showoffs purchasing these vehicles. They deserve what they get….

ZombieDawg
ZombieDawg
October 23, 2019 10:11 pm

Everyone should see The light bulb conspiracy documentary. Should still be on youtube.

yahsure
yahsure
October 23, 2019 10:39 pm

Most reports I have read say the Tesla is fantastic. Unbelievable acceleration! Vehicles change, think of all those square looking(good)cars from the seventies. Do you see them still on the road in any numbers? I could see an electric pickup truck with an all-wheel drive. its whats coming. I will, of course, keep driving my paid for big block F-250 for as long as possible.

Crawfisher
Crawfisher
October 24, 2019 8:53 am

I want to buy a used 1976 Toyota FJ 40 or equivalent Jeep, built like a tractor, no computer crap.

Jaz
Jaz
October 24, 2019 12:31 pm

It’s interesting to see the lengths people will go to in order to ‘make it work ‘.