Orwell & Huxley both right, says Pink Floyd’s Roger Waters (RT)

Hat tip Vote Harder

I think Aldous Huxley’s role in social change may be underestimated.  I don’t think he was trying to design a Brave New World.  I think he was trying to find it.

Huxley had experimented with all sorts of therapy and drugs, trying to change his own intellect into what he believed to be one of “Master” quality.  Even after the psychedelic drug experience, he felt he had yet to “break on through.”

However, after writing of his own experiences with Peyote/mescaline in The Doors of Perception, 1954, he developed a high profile following which included Jim Morrison of The Doors, who was a Huxley fan, obviously.

“With the mainstream media largely content to ignore the plight of Julian Assange, did George Orwell or Aldous Huxley better predict the world of today?” Both did, former Pink Floyd frontman Roger Waters told RT.

“Orwell and Huxley were always arguing about who had the closest view of what dystopia might look like in the future,” said Waters, adding “I think we got a lot of both.” 

“We have the ‘Big Brother’ Orwellian dystopian nightmare, it happened two days ago in that magistrate’s court,” he explained, referring to a UK judge’s decision on Monday to deny the WikiLeaks founder a delay in US extradition proceedings. Assange’s lawyers have argued that they need more time to prepare a defense, and some of Assange’s supporters have made the case that British law forbids extradition in the first place, if the charges can be seen as political.

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M G (should have mentioned Assange)
M G (should have mentioned Assange)
October 27, 2019 4:06 pm

I should have put something about the Assange ruling in the title…

AHA!!! I knew I uploaded that wolf image somewhere!

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
October 27, 2019 4:38 pm

No-talent Jim Morrison had a daddy for an Admiral… who started the Vietnam war with the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

This has all come out as public record.

Roger Waters is a spook too.

That’s why he is yapping to pro-Israel USSR 2.0 RT and furthering the Julian Assange hoax.

No talent gas bag from Royal stock he is.

Sorry to piss on another 70s and 80s icon.

There are no heroes, except in Greek delicatessens.

M G
M G
  22winmag - w/o tagline
October 27, 2019 4:57 pm

I know Jim Morrison has links to his father the Admiral and possibly to others. However, that’s not really the point.

The point is the tremendous IMPACT this type of thinking had on the cultural movement’s organizers going into the 1960s.

As for the Assange Media Coverage, be it real or memorex, it is most certainly NewsWorthy. The outcome, be it real or be it memorex, of Assange’s Epic Journey will determine how quickly the next domino falls.

As for Waters? I can’t imagine him being that important of a spook.

It is HUXLEY who I believe had the most impact. not with Brave New World. With The Doors of Perception.

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
  M G
October 27, 2019 5:59 pm

Everyone above the rank of junior file clerk in the entertainment biz who has a microphone is a government spook, whether passive or active.

On topic, I was always more of a Huxley guy too.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
October 27, 2019 5:01 pm

MG/VH..
I can see both in today’s events. We have enough materiel security to keep us from revolting against the Orwellian reality we live in. Scrubbing the net of old info and replacing it with today’s meme. Farmer just mentioned that very thing on the Baghdadi article. Being declared insane instead of allowing someone to be a Martyr, thanking Big Bro for an increase in SSA checks while raising Medicare deductibles and inflating the money more than the increase in COLA’s etc.. Much like they would thank Big Bro for decreasing the chocolate ration.

22winmag - w/o tagline
22winmag - w/o tagline
  Fleabaggs
October 27, 2019 6:02 pm

A lot of the old conservatives and old conservative news outlets sort of self-scrubbed $$$ if you know what I mean.

Now we have the new shit like Ben Shaprio, Rebel(stein) Media, Conservative Nuthouse, OANN, and so much new conservative mystery meat.

Yogi is on to the new, young fake-conservative Zio-fakes.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  22winmag - w/o tagline
October 27, 2019 6:15 pm

.22
They flood the market to make it hard to sort through the noise, just like they hide things in volumes of paperwork nobody has time to sift through.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  22winmag - w/o tagline
October 27, 2019 6:19 pm

Geez, No Velocity, I can’t determine which drug you’re taking. Crazy pills?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Anonymous
October 27, 2019 7:22 pm

anon ??

M G
M G
  Fleabaggs
October 27, 2019 6:43 pm

I was actually thinking about writing a post about the decreasing size of the chocolate ration if one buys a package of so-called high end chocolates.

Prof. Mandelbrot
Prof. Mandelbrot
October 27, 2019 7:13 pm

We need to have an article and discussion regarding the coming food crisis in 2020. The drought, flooding, and late planting has decimated grain production and there will be shortages of wheat and corn in the next 12 months. This caused grain prices to inflate which caused many farmers to cull their veal early vs get crushed by by grain prices feeding them to term.

Bigger an issue is African Swine Fever. This is a global pandemic and already has wiped out 52% of hogs globally. The virus is extremely stable and seems to mutate quickly. The worst kind of pandemic. This will put significant pressure on other protein worldwide. I see dog consumption in Asia tripling. The expectation of the next meat that will go mainstream will be rabbit. Especially in the western world. They can get pregnant every cycle every 8 weeks. And they produce 2-16 offspring. Rabbit farming now can produce wealth over the next 5 years or until protein herds and prices revert to the mean.

That canned bacon you thought was expensive will be increasing in value better than Pm’s and the stock market. I see pork futures tripling by Summer next year. There was already a massive beef kill off due to grain prices doubling so they sent an extra 29% to market. Veal was as cheap as ground burgers nearly due to the holding cost to maturity farmers sent veal to market cheaply as a break even opportunity to unload them rather than taking losses.

I have met many at the Colonel and above (retirees) and when I asked my standard question of what scares them the most they all said bio/viral. It is a nameless unseen enemy and govt can and will use it for martial law and squashing freedoms until a generation of fear grows up not knowing real freedom. The dems could easily allow a near bio pandemic to unfold (even if they have a cure) so blood runs thick in the streets via starving neighbor vs starving neighbor in their final push of banning guns and eviscerating the Constitution. Martial law in a bio pandemic will be easy since the enemy of my enemy is my friend. People will have to worry about a virus and that will severely hinder barter and trade and proper cordial communications of citizens. This will place the govt as savior. People will come to depend on, trust and believe the govt is there to help them and keep them safe and view their neighbors with suspicion of being infected.

I have run many a think tank of scenarios of which shtf scenarios would best be in the govts favor and bio/viral is the number one. Keeps people stationary, on lock down and it would be justifiably enforceable. And many would take the govts side because of the fake news will narrate the virus is being spread by people ignoring the lock down martial laws.

If you have not prepped for viral or bio I highly, highly suggest buying before year end when this hits mainstream as all preps will double in price and bio mitigation preps will triple in costs. I have predicted prepping going double mainstream due to political issues one way or another if trump wins/loses it ratchets up no matter. Add bio issues on top and my idea of opening a prep store locally may actually best the proformas I have studied and prepared.

Would love to get your comments on ideas of a brick and mortar prep store and should I manufacturer things, host how to and diy classes (for a fee). I was also considering doing only bulk orders vs one offs so it makes more sense and i could buy at higher bulk discount and sell too. Please comment away on any ideas regarding me taking this risky venture on. Greatly appreciated.biggest advantage would be the cash sales as true preppers do not want a paper trail of their preps and also the newly awakened sheep that browse do what all new preppers do, the freak out and over buy instantly. I would be the only one, the only store in a medium sized city. Only 2 others in the state and they are less than 1,000 sqft in towns less than 10,000. True prep in Marietta Georgia is crushing sales. And when snow hits they sell 70% of their entire store and warehouse.

Can’t wait to gather your comments and feedback. Thanks!

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Prof. Mandelbrot
October 27, 2019 7:36 pm

Pangloss.
I don’t have any ideas but I had a wide awake dream of what you are describing while near death and trapped in the Health Care Goolag(spelling intentional). Too lengthy to repeat here again but it was world emcompassing and included designer germs and herbicides for every occasion plus weather control as well as Merc armies and malware. The end result was a sickly Pal hovered over the whole globe and none dared oppose it. That was 4 years ago.
As for the store. I think armed guards will be your biggest expense.

M G
M G
  Prof. Mandelbrot
October 27, 2019 7:48 pm

Wow! a lot of questions there.

I can tell you this: Rabbits reproduce in 28 to 35 days. I’ve had litters of 18, but only ten can live, reasonably. 18 means you let the buck have too many meetings.

I’ve got a couple of huge bucks and picked up some nice looking does this summer.

Only Scrapper, the “retired” sire of my warren, has a name. And Otto, named for Paula’s grandson.

M G
M G
  Prof. Mandelbrot
October 27, 2019 8:19 pm

I will see if my old prepper pals still have a website active in Oklahoma. They did a couple years ago.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Prof. Mandelbrot
October 28, 2019 12:11 am

We are all trying to ignore the food shortages that Ice Age Farmer and Adapt 2030 are talking about.

Ginger
Ginger
  Prof. Mandelbrot
October 28, 2019 6:29 am

All this sounds great, but everything ends for the average person when they hit the first physical, armed road-block when travelling. It might be at the end of the block, or ten miles from home. It could be armed with the police, or the new warlord of the area, friendlies or enemies. But the idea is that one is not going any farther.

Due to two different hurricanes, I have encountered twice being forced out of my home, power cut, road blocks by law enforcement(five or six car loads) brought in from other parts of the state so one does not know them, and refused to be allowed in for the reason of “my safety”. I’m talking about six/seven days later and with animals that need care. The secret will be to build one’s own barricades.

Took a bit of walking, but I did get in there.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
October 27, 2019 8:02 pm

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Crawfisher
Crawfisher
  Vote Harder
October 27, 2019 8:36 pm

Absolutely true for the voters in Chicago and the state of Illinois. Now true for Utah who voted Mittens.
Hope Californians enjoy their blackouts they voted for, wonder where all that tax money went?

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
  Crawfisher
October 28, 2019 11:21 am

Up in smoke, of course.

James the Deplorable Wanderer
James the Deplorable Wanderer
  Crawfisher
October 29, 2019 12:27 am

Utah only voted for Mittens in a narrow sense. Name recognition, state party backing and a lack of real primary opposition got him in.
I’ve already told the state repub party they are responsible for that walking embarrassment of a globalist being my Senator, and they won’t get a dollar from me until he’s gone. And lack of a real primary opponent next time will count the same as clearing the field for him.
I suspect more folks are registering their dismay with Mittens:

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