“There exists a government within a government within the United States” -Osama bin Laden

Guest Post by The Hedgeless Horseman

“I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself… That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. … The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States.” 

-Osama bin Laden statement, published by BBC

In essence, this article is about a map, a video, a timeline, and a chart.  Please, take a few minutes to carefully examine each.

The Map

I have asked dozens, if not hundreds, of Americans to please tell me why, exactly, America is at war with Afghanistan, the longest war in American history.  Some say, “Because they attacked us.”  Most have no answer, whatsoever, but instead ask me, “Why?”   I respond by asking them what large oil-producing nation borders Afghanistan in the west.  Some guess, “Iraq.”  Nobody knows.  I then ask what large oil-consuming nation borders Afghanistan on the East.  Nobody knows.  I tell them the answers are Iran (Israel’s and Saudi Arabia’s arch enemy) and China.

0 miles: Distance from Afghanistan to Iran

0 miles: Distance from Afghanistan to China

7,477 miles: Distance from Afghanistan to Washington, D.C.

Said a different way, the USA invaded and occupies a nation on the other side of the planet that fucking borders Iran and China, then complains about Persian and Chinese aggressive behavior in the Persian Gulf and South China Sea.

lol

The Video

It is highly unlikely that you have seen the interviews in this 4 minute and 13 second video, a compilation of FDNY firefighters talking about the explosions inside the WTC on 9-11-2001.  Watch it now, before it is memory holed by The Ministry of Truth.

 

The Timeline

  • 1979-1989 Operation Cyclone – CIA program to arm and finance Afghani insurgents, including those organized by Saudi Arabian, Osama bin Laden
  • 9-10-2001 US Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, declares $2.3 trillion in missing Pentagon receipts
  • 9-11-2001 Thousands of Americans killed when three World Trade Center towers are destroyed and two unidentifiable flying objects crash into the Pentagon and the ground in Pennsylvania
  • 10-7-2001 US goes to war against the general concept of “terror” and attacks the nation of Afghanistan, because they decline to extradite former Operation Cyclone ally and Saudi Arabian citizen, Osama bin Laden, without some evidence of his involvement in 9-11-2001 attacks, which US refuses to provide
  • 10-26-2001 USA Patriot Act signed into law
  • 11-21-2001 Five Dancing Israelis arrested by NYPD on 9-11-2001  are quietly released by FBI to return to Israel
  • 9-2-2004 US Presidential election with essentially zero discussion or debate about the War in Afghanistan
  • 9-4-2008 US Presidential election with essentially zero discussion or debate about the War in Afghanistan
  • 5-2-2011 Osama bin Laden reportedly shot in face in Pakistan and his body immediately buried at sea
  • 9-6-20012 US Presidential election with essentially zero discussion or debate about the War in Afghanistan
  • 9-8-2016 US Presidential election with essentially zero discussion or debate about the War in Afghanistan
  • 9-3-2020 US Presidential election with essentially zero discussion or debate about the War in Afghanistan

 

The Chart

President Donald J. Trump has expressed his desire to withdraw U.S. forces from Afghanistan.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R45122.pdf

Watch what they do, not what they say.

On September 7, 2019, President Trump revealed in a series of tweets that he had invited “major Taliban leaders” and Afghan President Ashraf Ghani to meet with him separately at Camp David on the following day. He wrote that, because a Taliban attack killed several people, including a U.S. soldier, in Kabul on September 5, he had “immediately cancelled the meeting and called off peace negotiations.”

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R45122.pdf

U.S. air operations have escalated considerably under the Trump Administration, as measured by the number of munitions released (see Figure 2). These operations have contributed to a sharp rise in civilian casualties; the U.N. reported that the third quarter of 2019 saw the highest quarterly civilian casualty toll since tracking began in 2009, with over 4,300 civilians killed or injured from July 1 to September 30.

Oceania is at war with Central Asia.

Oceania has always been at war with Central Asia.

Oceania will always be at war with Central Asia.

 

11-17-2019

US Army’s new card decks feature Russian, Chinese & Iranian weapons ‘to learn more about adversaries’

https://www.rt.com/usa/473664-us-army-playing-cards/

 

Peace, liberty, love, and truth,

h_h

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41 Comments
CCRider
CCRider
November 19, 2019 7:05 am

Yes, there is a ‘government within the government’. It’s been there for a long time. And it’s sustained by ‘consent of the governed’-voting. So the real opposition are those of us who disdain voting. The others serve their masters.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  CCRider
November 19, 2019 10:41 am

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Mad as Hell
Mad as Hell
  CCRider
November 20, 2019 5:42 pm

Wrong on one thing CC, it is not sustained by voting, it is sustained by fiat money printing and compulsory income tax. If people were not threatened with force to pay these assholes, and if the government could not deficit spend printed money, the “government within the government” could not be paid, hence, it could not exist.
When you can force a population to hand over their productivity to be used by those behind the gun, then you get what we have now. When the consent is predicated on choice, without coercion, the consent of the governed has an or else that is enforceable by the governed. What “we the people” lack is enforcement, or the or else clause.
It is the same thing as blaming the shop owner in New York for paying the mobster for “protection”. Of course the shop owner would not pay, if Vinnie and Louie would not come in and break his kneecaps and rape his wife. Modern government is no different than the mob, and is no less a protection racket. It is just the force is administered by the IRS, legal tender laws and the local law enforcers instead of Vinnie and Louie.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 19, 2019 7:21 am

” There’s nothing more American than giving an eye for Israel or sacrificing a kid for Epstein .” Ben Shapiro

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0amHK-Yxf2U

yahsure
yahsure
November 19, 2019 8:23 am

Supposedly we attacked Afghanistan because of terrorist training camps being there. We couldn’t exactly attack our oil buddies the Saudis, could we? The Saudis are the guilty party when it comes to 911. Of course on TBP its always the Jews. The Jews being the cause of everything is a secret to the rest of the world.
I would go with the CIA If you need a secret Gov, within a Gov. group to blame.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  yahsure
November 19, 2019 9:25 am

I don’t know who was behind 9/11 any more than you do, but there are certainly a lot of folks within our government who benefited greatly from it.

Why don’t we work backwards from there?

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Hardscrabble Farmer
November 19, 2019 10:48 am

I don’t know who was behind 9/11 any more than you do

That would be your own choosing.

EC
EC
  Vote Harder
November 19, 2019 11:11 am

Votey, he isn’t saying he has no idea, he says he doesn’t know any names. I would start with the dog that didn’t bark – Bush.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  EC
November 19, 2019 12:15 pm

Actual individual names may not be as important as state and non-state actors, organizations, deep state apparatus, etc. It is already proven enough that the Saudi’s, Israeli’s and the AmeriKan government were complicit.

The US government didn’t go to war with Afghanistan for just Bin Laden, or Iraq. The Bush administration claimed they were all state sponsors of terrorism, so they just set the whole middle east on fire. Trump is drone bombing more people now than Obama did in the Middle East. This all is still happening because of 9/11. They claimed shortly after 9/11 that this would be a perpetual war.

piearesquared
piearesquared
  EC
November 19, 2019 2:18 pm

Bush didn’t have much to do with 9/11. The planners couldn’t trust him to know much because he is such an idiot he probably would have spilled the beans. His only foreknowledge of 9/11 was that something big was going to happen that day and his only job was to act surprised when he heard the news, which he couldn’t even do right.

It was elements of the Deep State, including primarily neocons, Zionists, and Mossad, but also many others who were involved with planning 9/11. As for specific names, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld were definitely involved in the planning, but beyond that I’m not sure who was involved. In addition to those who were involved with the planning, there were many more who didn’t know beforehand, but were involved in the cover-up after it happened. Rudy Giuliani was certainly involved at least in the cover-up, and might have been involved in the planning as well.

John
John
  piearesquared
November 19, 2019 8:11 pm

Note that Cheney, Rumsfeld, Clinton and Bush Sr. were all members of the Council on Foreign Relations, flagship of the “invisible government” since WW2.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Vote Harder
November 19, 2019 11:19 am

You know?

Post away, genius, we’re looking forward to have someone finally clear it all up.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Hardscrabble Farmer
November 19, 2019 12:08 pm

The smoking guns are everywhere for those who can say no to government indoctrination. Doesn’t take a genius to figure out it was a combination of Saudi’s, Isreali’s and deep deep Amerikan deep state. So don’t look for geniuses, just do some research. A starting point for you would be to read the comic book, The 9/11 Commission Report.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Vote Harder
November 19, 2019 12:15 pm

That’s no secret and I think I tapped out after spending 4 years of research. I think I know all that there is to know about the key players and motivations, it’s the details that are still missing.

I thought you knew something specific.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Hardscrabble Farmer
November 19, 2019 12:48 pm

This is a direct quote from you above;

I don’t know who was behind 9/11 any more than you do

This is your quote now;

I think I know all that there is to know about the key players and motivations….

Contradict much??

Also your president say’s he knows who did it. Why don’t you ask him?

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Vote Harder
November 19, 2019 1:04 pm

If I tell you that the 82nd Airborne invaded Grenada does that answer the question about who came up with the plan? No, it does not. If I tell you we were able to rescue the students at St Georges Medical School, does that mean that was our reason for going there in the first place? Again, no. And if I disclose that I was one of the combatants does that mean I was behind it?

Being able to read the signatories of the Project For A New American Century may disclose the capos willing to put their names to an outline of US foreign policy going forward, does it prove who exactly convinced them to get on board?

Are you following my line of logic or would you like me to dumb it down some more?

9/11 is a lot like the opening scene in The Dark Knight. At each juncture you have a participant who happens to believe that they are in on the bigger picture when in fact they are merely cogs in a limited aspect of the heist.

Do you, for example, think that a George Bush would be even remotely capable of orchestrating an operation as complex and long ranging as 9/11?
Yet many people assume- since he was President- that he must be one of the main players when all he did was serve as a means of legitimizing the second phase- ushering in a surveillance state and signing off on endless war. He was, for all intents and purposes, a notary public. His seal of approval was all that was required of him.

As Owen Benjamin is so fond of saying, you’ve come to the wrong saloon.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Hardscrabble Farmer
November 19, 2019 1:37 pm

Do you, for example, think that a George Bush would be even remotely capable of orchestrating an operation as complex and long ranging as 9/11?

I didn’t say that any of the things in your long diatribe were true. So why do you say that I do think or say it?

In your previous comment you asked for details and specifics but you didn’t say what details or specifics you were looking for. I can’t read your damn mind son.

Here is your first comment above again;

I don’t know who was behind 9/11 any more than you do

But you never was specific about what specific information you wanted to know. “Specifics Bob”!

If it’s individuals your looking for, what fucking difference does it make if it’s Mahammad Motherfucker or George Bush, they were acting in coordination with one another as a group. The group would be the guilty party. Do you know the individual’s name who killed JFK? If it was the group called the CIA, what fucking difference does it make who the trigger man was? It doesn’t. Your doing a fine job of dumbing yourself down. You don’t need no help.

“Specifics Bob”?

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Vote Harder
November 19, 2019 2:41 pm

Some people you just can’t connect with even if you speak the same language.

That would be us.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Hardscrabble Farmer
November 19, 2019 3:39 pm

Well I’m sorry bout that HF, but I was trying to respond to your first comment, “I don’t know who was behind 9/11 any more than you do….”

And,

“I think I know all that there is to know about the key players and motivations, it’s the details that are still missing.”

But you didn’t say what kind of details or specifics, so I didn’t know what else to tell you. Nevertheless, Mr. Trump say’s he knows who did it but so far he ain’t saying nothing. His campaign promise was to reveal this to the American people….still waiting! So maybe he has those details you and I are looking for.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Vote Harder
November 19, 2019 3:45 pm

Trump doesn’t know anything so that’s a dead end, isn’t it?

And no one is going to fill us in on the details, so it leaves us with a permanent question mark.

That was the point I was trying to make. I just don’t want to get caught in a runaround and that’s where this seemed to be headed.

EC
EC
  Vote Harder
November 19, 2019 3:39 pm

I’m pretty dumb so maybe I can speaka your language, Votey, HF says that you have the basics of all that has been revealed about 9/11. He knows even more than you do. Still, he doesn’t know who did it. As Maggie used to say, you don’t know what you think you know. HF is waiting to find the missing link before he dares to say he knows who did 9/11. Maybe a mafioso will confess on his deathbed. Eppy sure didn’t confess on his.

M G
M G
  EC
November 20, 2019 5:04 am

I still say that.

EC
EC
  Hardscrabble Farmer
November 19, 2019 3:31 pm

We didn’t have to read the New Yorker cover to understand the picture Bush and Cheney painted when Bush was sent to a safe place in a Florida classroom while Cheney called the shots in DC. Dick was the Harvey Weinstein of the administration; the man to see about a horse.

M G
M G
  EC
November 20, 2019 10:41 am

It weirds me out that my old friend in Maryland has parents living out on that isthmus where Dick Cheney owns a home. It is the bay/island they refer to as the Western Shore. (She really WAS a bit of a snob. Until she met me.)

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Hardscrabble Farmer
November 20, 2019 4:07 am

HSF..

Did you spend any time traveling down the ‘unseen path’ of motivation ? I mean, what may drive who ever may have been behind the ritual ? Or, have you considered this aspect as you have researched ?

“And he set up the pillars in the porch of the temple: and he set up the right pillar, and called the name thereof Jachin: and he set up the left pillar, and called the name thereof Boaz.” 1 Kings 7:21

This sort of ‘coinky dinks’ happen to me almost daily . In this case, I read this article, the comments, and looked to a search engine to grab a link or to for supporting my ‘suspicions’…I had never seen this particular video before, it has only about a hundred views and was posted almost ten years ago. I repost it because of the simple ‘coinky dink’ that it was posted on month/day of my birth, and references the Boaz and Jachin pillar verse that is month/day of my father’s death…..

I lost dad in ’99, and literally shook my fist at the heavens and started in on a KJV Bible to “get to the bottom of why now”. When 911 came along, I had been into my biblical studies a while, and it was several years later that my wife showed my how to use a laptop…

8-8-98 (my wife’s fortieth) the news reported the Kenyan embassy bombings, naming Osama Bin Laden as the suspect. Dad, (whose prognosis was 3-6 months in oct. 97) said ‘he [bin laden] was gonna be trouble, he’s one of ours’….

Thank goodness they finally put that bad man’s name to rest with the traditional muslim burial at sea……

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  yahsure
November 19, 2019 10:45 am

While speaking with supporters at a campaign event in Bluffton, South Carolina in 2016, then-Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump said if he is elected “you will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center.”
“It wasn’t the Iraqis,” Trump said.
“You may find it’s the Saudis.”

Trump was referencing the fact 15 out of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. He also, somehow, had knowledge of what was in the 28 pages that would be declassified a few months later in July.
Trump went on to say the government has “papers…that are very secret” which may implicate the Saudis, perhaps referencing the report discussed above.
“You will find out,” Trump said.

Before he was elected, Americans did find out that the 28 pages proved the United States government knew the Saudi Arabian government had a hand in and supported the terrorists who carried out the attacks on 9/11 — and covered it up.
https://youtu.be/h4JReJfUDYY

Fast forward to post-election win Trump and his view on Saudi Arabia has changed — drastically. Now, just like Obama, he’s BFF’s with the terrorist regime, responsible for the deaths of 2,369 Americans.

This is the state of politics in the land of the free.
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/donald-trump-2018-like-obama/

Trump Administration Provides New Evidence For A Saudi Connection To 9/11

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  yahsure
November 19, 2019 3:06 pm

Yahsure

Right. The saudis wrote the patriot act and mailed it to bush for signing that same day with a Tel Aviv postmark. The Saudis also created the DHS. King Salmon is just chump change in the great game. If they did that without someones permission from higher up Saudi Arabia would look like Iraq or Syria.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
November 19, 2019 9:21 am

When did we start having Presidential elections in September?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  TN Patriot
November 19, 2019 5:01 pm

That’s when the globalists have typically hand-picked their candidates at the two party conventions. After that, it doesn’t really matter what goes on in November.

zioclops
zioclops
  TN Patriot
November 21, 2019 1:03 am

democracy will continue until morale improves.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 19, 2019 11:29 am

OMG my government has been promoting lies compounded by more lies and serious omission or twisting of facts and time lines , perish the thought !
It would be hilarious if not for being so devastating to the country it’s citizens and of course the American economy for everyone but those employed by government and the 1% profiting from all the wealth and debt transference . Even the military plays the win big scenario as long as they wave that flag safely behind the armor plated desk in the district of corruption . Of course the ground pounders are all pumped up to do a job till they come home missing pieces and parts or take up residence in a plot in Arlington . This is not meant to disparage military service however it is meant to show nothing but contempt for all in government that send our young men and women into harms way for the profiteers of the circle jerk of Wall Street to K-Street to Capitol Street
Never believe anything our government tells us , generally the direct opposite is true