To a Free Citizen of the Sovereign State of Virginia

By Tim “xrugger” Stebbins for The Burning Platform

If you, my Virginian friend, are indeed serious about standing against the proposed tyranny of those whom a majority of your fellow “citizens” have seen fit to install as the arbiters of your liberty, then you have chosen a righteous, though perilous course. Much of the nation is watching what is unfolding in your state. What you are attempting is no small thing and should not be undertaken lightly. Quite simply, you are telling your rulers that you will not comply. They are not used to such effrontery by commoners and be certain that they are not amused.

Believe the leftist cretins that contaminate your Commonwealth when they say that they support the confiscation of your weapons. They bleat about “gun safety” and “gun violence” as if the weapons you hold in your hands are sentient beings capable of acting for good or evil of their own volition. They are idiots and helots-in-waiting for the coming American tyranny. Do not believe the lunatics that now hold the majority in your legislature when they say now that they no longer seek to strip you of the single most important liberty you possess. Most importantly, do not believe that deceitful occupant of the Governor’s Mansion. The man is an inveterate liar, an advocate of the murder of innocents and your sworn enemy.

Their previous blatant threats to legislate away what is not theirs to legislate away have not been repudiated. They have merely been set aside until such time as you relax your guard. “Grandfather” clause sops and “it’s just a registry” inveiglement notwithstanding, their ultimate intent has not changed. They have merely done what statist scum always do. They have probed with the bayonet and encountered the steel that apparently still resides in the hearts of many of your fellow Virginians. It is in their interest to withdraw…for now.

The sibilant whispering of your reptilian ruling class about “safety” and “common sense gun laws” appeal to the manlets and feminist harridans that infest your campuses like head lice. Their blandishments are meant to soothe your women and indoctrinate your children. They will do and say anything to soften your resolve to retain the instruments with which you defend both wife and child. Trust no politician. Believe nothing the media says. Embrace no agenda that does not explicitly defend your right to retain the means of your own defense. Obey no law that you know to be unjust. Close your ears to any argument that seeks to convince you that your right to own a weapon and train with it in any way you see fit is anything other than God given. You need not be belligerent towards your enemies, since your cause is just. You need only be firm in your resolve to defend your rights. If you do only that, then all other like-minded Americans will support you.

You have chosen a course fraught with the same dangers faced by the riflemen at Lexington and Concord. Look to their example if you waver. The propaganda organs of the state and federal governments will excoriate you. Half of your “fellow citizens” will heap calumny and reproach upon you. The craven denizens of your legislature will, by turns, threaten, cajole, and then threaten you again. Remember your noble history of resistance to overreaching authority. Look to the past to find hope for the future. Remember that to be a Virginian is no lesser thing than to be an American. You are a son of The Old Dominion. Your beloved state was the epicenter of Lincoln’s War. Perhaps history is calling upon you once again to be a shield against the depredations of the tyrannical central government we have allowed to metastasize into a cancer that now afflicts every free man between the shining seas.

Remember your history as a sovereign people. Two and a half centuries ago, your ancestors entered into a voluntary association with the peoples of the other sovereign states. Less than a century later, your predecessors sought to withdraw from that agreement. They had every right to do so then, as you have every right to refuse consent to injustice now. The arbitrary might of federal tyranny bled your people white then and forced their submission. A similar tyranny seeks your submission now. The methods may be milder in form and narrower in scope, but the desire is the same. The statists seek to bring you to heel and do not doubt that the more resolve you exhibit, the more their methods will devolve toward naked force.

First, they will try “persuasion” and whine plaintively for “compromise.” Reject their puerile simpering. Next, will come threats and bully tactics. Stand firm. The powers that seek your ruin will pillory your leaders and hold you up to public ridicule. They will call you “gun nut, ignorant racist, stupid redneck, and slack-jawed hillbilly.” Wear their insults as a badge of honor. If they derisively ask you why you are so recalcitrant in your rustic ignorance, do not seek to persuade them to your side. The mind of a statist is impervious to the logic of liberty. Respond instead with a simple and final “Because F**k You, That’s Why.”  Finally, they will come to kick down doors to take by force what they could not secure by stealth.  What you do then will “light you down in honor or dishonor to the latest generation.”

The time for compromise and negotiation is ending. The intentions of your rulers are clear. They mean to reduce you to serfdom if they cannot make you complicit in the lies they tell themselves and their lackeys. Rest assured that you are not without allies. All over the country, your compatriots (this author among them) are praying for your success. We may not yet be at the tipping point. Our “fiery trial” may yet lie some years ahead. Nevertheless, your actions now in defense of freedom are a beacon of hope to the like-minded. Trust yourself and remember that you are in the right. Know that you stand now in a long line of patriots stretching back beyond the Founding. Yours is a legacy of resistance to tyranny. That legacy binds you to the spirits of Lee, Jackson, and Stuart. It binds you to the ranks of the Army of Northern Virginia and ragged ghosts of Valley Forge. It binds you to the hearts and minds of those who escaped the tyranny of the Old World to embrace the freedom and risk the dangers of the New.

Some may think such words unnecessarily flowery and such rhetoric overdone, but I believe the time for pedestrian expressions of compliance with the status quo are ending. The time for action is nearly upon us all. It is, quite possibly, more nearly upon you my Virginian friend. I do not know your name, but I do know who you are. What you do when the midnight knock comes will be the horn that sounds either reveille or retreat. I pray you will not be an uncertain trumpet.

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Steven
Steven
December 13, 2019 6:54 am

Hooah!!!!!

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
December 13, 2019 7:08 am

The phrase ‘what is not theirs to legislate’ is the crux of the matter.

It would appear there are no limits to what legislators deem within their purview. That phrase, in a nutshell, identifies what’s wrong with all government. It’s the overreach, the intrusiveness in what’s none of their business that becomes the dividing line between the freedom loving and the control freaks.

django
django
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 13, 2019 9:47 am

This is exactly what the idiots who rule NY did to the mostly rural upstate, post Adam Lanza and that closed school in CT where they staged the mother of all FF, and our communist faggot governor, Fedo passed some secret legislation in the middle of the night, outlawing every existing “dark and scary rifle”.

They created a list of ridiculous rules to try to quantify what is an “assault rifle” – a grip, a flash suppressor, and a detachable magazine, oh and it has to be black (jk). So it took about 5 years, but gun manufacturers have delivered a new legal version of the former, they removed the suppressor, made the grip more of a curved traditional stock, and put a pin in the mag so it meet the spec. all you have to do is punch out a pin and the clip drops right out.

Oh, and most of LEO bitched so hard that the had to modify most of the rules any way.

WE WIN, THEY LOOSE.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  django
December 13, 2019 9:57 am

When a loophole is found the progs if allowed will just change the rules and move the goalposts again.
At some point people must choose definitively to stop backing up and calling it a victory.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 13, 2019 11:45 am

“Tell the Sky people they cannot have what is ours!”

Doc
Doc
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 13, 2019 11:56 pm

How many other things fall into the same category: “legislate away what is not theirs to legislate”.

They had to amend the Constitution to outlaw alcohol, and amend it again to restore its legality. Why didn’t they have to amend it to outlaw drugs? I don’t take recreational drugs, but to quote the pro-abortion crowd “my body – my choice” (which should also apply to vaccinations).

It also comes to mind that the taxation schemes that steal from my labor and give it to undeserving entities – people that refuse to work & countries that hate us.

It seems that the Marxists/socialists just can’t seem to wait any longer. They’ve become impatient and want their utopia now! They can’t force you to accept the fate that they have planned for you if you have the means to say no and back it up. We have come very close to the watershed moment. Who is going to blink first?

Others have suggested that the situation in Virginia is ripe for a false flag event. Be extremely careful of agitators and agents provocateur. The left would love to have an incident to use to point to those demonstrating in support of their rights under the Constitution and paint them as the crazies.

Stay vigilant my brothers and sisters. We are praying for you.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Doc
December 14, 2019 6:34 am

One of the best things I ever read was ‘Not Yours to Give’ available at

Not Yours to Give

It elaborates on the ‘not yours’ concept or the ‘none of your damned business concept’ in an eloquent way.

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
December 13, 2019 7:31 am

Get the ropes ready…

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
December 13, 2019 7:45 am

Said it before on this forum and I will say it again, the Second is my red line in the sand… Chip

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 13, 2019 7:55 am

This essay is getting harder and harder to find as the years go by.
Originally published anonymously in Soldier of Fortune magazine back in the ’80s if I recall correctly.

Memorandum on Arms and Freedom
By Brian Puckett

It is time to speak plainly for the good citizens and patriots of this nation who believe unbendingly in the Constitution of the United States of America.

Though foreign governments may disarm their subjects, we will not go down that road. We will not disarm and see our freedoms stripped away. The lessons of history are numerous, clear and bloody. A disarmed population inevitably becomes an enslaved population. A disarmed population is without power, reduced to childlike obedience to–and dependence upon–the organs of a parental state. A disarmed population will lose–either piecemeal or in one sweeping act–those basic rights for which the citizens of America risked their lives and fortunes over two hundred years ago.

WE WILL NOT DISARM. The right to self-protection–the internal directive of every living creature, be it mouse or man–is the most fundamental right of all. It is a right that must be exercised against all predators of the streets, against the predators hidden within agencies of law enforcement, and against the most dangerous predators of all–those to be found in government, whose insidious grasping for power is relentless and never-ending.

WE WILL NOT DISARM. Not in the face of robbers, rapists, and murderers who prey upon our families and friends. Nor in the face of police and bureau agents who would turn a blind eye to the Constitution, who would betray the birthright of their countrymen; nor in the face of politicians of the lowest order–those who pander to the ignorant, the weak, the fearful, the naive; those indebted to a virulent strain of the rich who insulate themselves from the dangers imposed upon other Americans and then preach disarmament.

We will not surrender our handguns. We will not surrender our hunting arms. And we will not surrender our firearms of military pattern or military utility, nor their proper furnishings, nor the right to buy, to sell, or to manufacture such items.

Firearms of military utility, which serve well and nobly in times of social disturbance as tools of defense for the law-abiding, serve also in the quiet role of prevention, against both the criminal and the tyrannical. An ARMED CITIZENRY–the well-regulated MILITIA of the Second Amendment, properly armed with military firearms–is a powerful deterrent, on both conscious and subconscious levels, to those inclined toward governmental usurpations. An armed citizenry stands as a constant reminder to those in power that, though they may violate our rights temporarily, they will not do so endlessly and without consequence. And should Americans again be confronted with the necessity of–may God forbid it–throwing off the chains of a tyrannical and suffocating regime, firearms designed to answer the particular demands of warfare will provide the swiftest and most decisive means to this end. Any law which prohibits or limits a citizen’s possession of firearms of military utility or their proper furnishings provides an OPEN WINDOW through which a corrupt government will crawl to steal away the remainder of our firearms and our liberties. Any law which prohibits or limits a citizen’s possession of firearms of military utility or their proper furnishings, being directly contrary to the letter and spirit of the Second Amendment, is inimical to the Constitution, to the United States of America, and to its citizens.

Now–today–we are witnessing the perilous times foreseen by the architects of the Constitution. These are times when our government is demanding–in the guise of measures for the common good–the relinquishment of several rights guaranteed to Americans in the Constitution, foremost among which is the right to keep and bear arms for our own defense. These are times when our government has abdicated its primary responsibility–to provide for the security of its citizens. Swift and sure punishment of outlaws is absent, and in its place is offered the false remedy of disarming the law-abiding. Where this unconstitutional action has been given the force of law, it has failed to provide relief and has produced greater social discord. This discord in turn now serves as the false basis for the demand that we give up other rights, and for the demand for more police, more agents of bureaucratic control to enforce the revocation of these rights.

Legislators, justices, and law officers must bear in mind that the foundation of their duties is to uphold the fundamental law of the land–the Constitution. They must bear in mind that the unconstitutional act of disarming one’s fellow citizens will also disarm one’s parents, spouse, brothers, sisters, children, and children’s children. There are good citizens who–taking heed of Benjamin Franklin’s admonition that those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety–will surrender not one of their rights.

Those who eat away at our right to own and use firearms are feeding on the roots of a plant over two centuries old, a plant whose blossom is the most free, most powerful nation ever to exist on this planet. The right to keep and bear arms is the taproot of this plant. All other rights were won at the point of a gun and will endure only at the point of a gun. Could they speak, millions upon millions of this world’s dead souls would testify to this truth. Millions upon millions of the living can so testify today.

Now–today–is a critical moment in our history. Will we Americans passively lie down before a government grown disdainful of its best citizens? Or will we again declare: WE are the government, government functions at OUR behest, government MAY NOT rescind our sacred rights. Will we place our faith in public servants who behave as though they are our masters? Or will we place our faith in the words and deeds of the daring, farseeing men and women whose blood, sweat and tears brought forth this great nation?

Will we believe those who assure us that the police officer will shield us from the criminal? Or will we believe our eyes and ears, presented every day with news of our unarmed neighbors falling prey in their homes, on our streets, in our places of work and play?

Will we bow our heads to cowards and fools who will not learn and do not understand the lessons of human history? Or will we stand straight and assume the daily tasks and risks that liberty entails?

Will we ignore even the lessons of this present era–which has seen the cruel oppression of millions on the continents of Europe, Asia, Africa, and South America–and believe that the continent of North America is immune to such political disease? Or will we wisely accept the realities of this world, wisely listen to and make use of the precautions provided by our ancestors?

Will we deceived by shameless liars who say that disarmament equals safety, helplessness equals strength, patriotism equals criminality? Or will we mark the word of our forefathers, who wrote in plain language: THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED?

Let us make known: We will choose the latter option in every case.

LEGISLATORS: Do your duty to your country. Uphold the Constitution as you swore to do. Do not shame yourselves by knocking loose the mighty keystone of this great republic–the right to keep and bear arms. Read and study the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution you swore to support.

JUSTICES: Do your duty to your country. Examine the origins of our right to weaponry, and uphold the letter and spirit of the Constitution. Read and study the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution you swore to support.

LAWMEN: Do your duty to your country. Do not be misguided and misused. Your task is to serve and to protect–not to oppress, disarm, and to make helpless your countrymen.

To the blind, the ignorant, the apathetic, the safe and sheltered, these may seem to be concerns of another age. They are not. They are as vital as they have ever been throughout history. For times may change but human nature does not. And it is to protect forever against the evil in human nature that the Founding Fathers set aside certain rights as inviolable. For these reasons we must now make known: We will not passively take the path that leads to tyranny. We will not go down that road. WE WILL NOT DISARM.

M G
M G
  Anonymous
December 13, 2019 10:08 am

We will hope Virginia’s legacy of resistance to tyranny still burns bright in the hearts of her citizenry. The eyes of a nation are upon you.

daddysteve
daddysteve
  Anonymous
December 14, 2019 3:31 pm

Not much good if we’re pointing them at each other. Divide and rule still works in a well armed society. And I haven’t had much luck hitting a virus at any range except point blank. A radio station or newspaper would be worth how many firearms at this point in time? “I’ll take the ‘penis mightier’ for a hundred , Trebek”.

Ivan
Ivan
December 13, 2019 8:08 am

Virginia is a Commonwealth. Sic Semper Tyrannis is the motto for nothing. Curious the fight may start there.

Shark
Shark
December 13, 2019 8:18 am

As a Virginia resident in the most horribly blue county up north…let’s just say my powder is dry and the larder is stocked.

I appreciate those who are willing to man the barricades and make the speeches. Personally, my disposition is to lie still on the ridge line, with the scope set to a zero at 1,000 feet. I’ve got your back.

Donkey
Donkey
  Shark
December 13, 2019 9:35 am

Shark,

I’m in Fairfax county. You?

Jim in Va.
Jim in Va.
  Donkey
December 13, 2019 7:43 pm

Frederick county here!

gilberts
gilberts
  Shark
December 14, 2019 2:09 am

Used to live in PW county. Fuck that shithole. Over-developed, over-priced, over-taxed, over-crowded, and over-criminaled. Stacked to the rafters with illegals and nothing done to remove them. Northern VA is well on its way to being a terd werld cesspool. If Diversity is our Strength, I would hate to see our weakness.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
December 13, 2019 8:52 am

Amen and amen.

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
December 13, 2019 8:53 am

*Goosebumps*

It would seem that every day with every transgression we are getting closer to Spicy Time.

Steve
Steve
December 13, 2019 8:57 am

I got my pen out to boldly sign your article as did Hancock. Great article X.

Hardnox
Hardnox
December 13, 2019 9:10 am

Thank you and well stated.

I am hearted with my fellow Virginians and the Sheriffs from around our Commonwealth. Our County meeting turnout was huge. About 1000 attended which was stunning given the low population of our rural county. All the speakers were polite and well informed, young and old, white and black, men and women. Several were also Fed LEOs who spoke of the unconstitutionality of the Left’s agenda in Virginia. Many veterans spoke. Several preachers spoke. All were unanimous in defiance of the proposed legislation: Virginians will not comply.

The Left had best be careful. Should they proceed with their illegal legislation and attempt to enforce it, then the consequences will be dire for all parties. I am certain that the Left has no idea the Pandora’s box they will unseal.

We fully expect the Left will proceed and pass the legislation that they boldly made public before taking office. They are that stupid, and clueless. Which begs the question: what are they planning that makes them fearful of an armed citizenry? Of course, the answer is obvious especially since every official statistic of gun ownership by lawful peaceful people proves that an armed society in all cases results in a safer environment and society. A totalitarian all-powerful government is their objective.

Hopefully, the courts will decide in Virginians’ favor and the crisis will be shelved, at least for a time.

Lastly, our rights enumerated in the “Bill of Rights” are rights are given to all Americans by God at birth. Our Founders simply acknowledged those inalienable rights and codified them into law so there is no confusion. We already had them thus the government didn’t give us these rights and therefore cannot take them away. Naturally, the Left ignores the Constitution as it is an impediment to their objectives.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Hardnox
December 13, 2019 9:16 am

Virginia is no NY or CA.
Can you say Cloud vs. Dirt people?
I bet you can.

Hardnox
Hardnox
  Eyes Wide Shut
December 13, 2019 9:58 am

Virginia definitely isn’t NY or CA. The 2nd Amendment is codified into our Constitution. CA & NY do not.

We Virginians also know that this country started here in 1607 beginning with Jamestown, many of our Founders were Virginians, and thus it is appropriate that the fight against totalitarianism begins here.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Eyes Wide Shut
December 13, 2019 10:05 am

The fundamental difference between cloud and dirt people that I see is that dirt people work and fight for themselves and their families and cloud people pay or force others to do so for them.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Eyes Wide Shut
December 13, 2019 11:14 pm

Most certainly not. This country would not exist without the Commonwealth, and while it appreciates the good tidings of outsiders, it does not need them to prevail. NY was great for the losers of code duello and CA for Eureka. Good to see Culpeper still stand tall on U.S. 29 where every other county seems to be falling to Yankee offal.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
December 13, 2019 9:12 am

Nice essay, Tim. I hope WRSA sees it and posts it on their site. They are keeping a close eye on this. Did you happen to see these links they posted yesterday?

“‘The law is the law’: Virginia Democrats float prosecution, National Guard deployment if police don’t enforce gun control”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-law-is-the-law-virginia-democrats-float-prosecution-national-guard-deployment-if-police-dont-enforce-gun-control

They are threatening to withdraw state funds from the counties who refuse to comply with the laws they plan to pass and call up the National Guard.

“Democratic Virginia Rep. Donald McEachin suggested cutting off state funds to counties that do not comply with any gun control measures that pass in Richmond.

“They certainly risk funding, because if the sheriff’s department is not going to enforce the law, they’re going to lose money. The counties’ attorneys offices are not going to have the money to prosecute because their prosecutions are going to go down,” he said.

McEachin also noted that Democratic Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam could call the National Guard, if necessary.”

WRSA then posted a link from Free Republic that has over 300 comments in response to the threats in the article.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3800247/posts?q=1&;page=1

Some strong words in those comments. I hope the people of Virginia’s spines are as strong as the words in the comments.

One person noted that if actual shooting begins it will spill over into other states as some will come in support of the defiant counties.

As the next few months pass things will begin to heat up along with the summer temperatures. I’m sure lawmakers in other states are watching this very closely.

M G
M G
  Mary Christine
December 13, 2019 10:16 am

I asked this on a different thread to a different person, but would like your opinion, as well.

Is there a “Silent Majority” such as Richard Nixon called upon when his integrity was besmirched over $18,000? Literally pennies in the bucket.

This video is NOT complete… I’ll try to find it in entirety… it is worth a viewing, I believe.

Okay, whole thing is 30 minutes. Wow… a U.S. Senator could fill a half-hour with a campaign message.

From the 15 minute point on, it is interesting, if for nothing else, his description of the financial holdings and debts of the Nixon family.

M G
M G
  M G
December 13, 2019 11:41 am

I think his appeal to the Silent Majority was a brilliant move. Was it genuine?

You were a teenage know-nothing (MG)
You were a teenage know-nothing (MG)
  M G
December 14, 2019 11:03 am

Is there a conservative, rational-minded Silent Majority we are not hearing from NOW?

Or must we go quietly into that good night?

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Mary Christine
December 13, 2019 10:44 am

I think they piss in the wind with the idea of defunding sanctuary counties. The courts ruled against it for illegal aliens who have no f’ing right to be here so how they sanction counties supporting long recognized rights of citizens would be a head scratcher. As for what they want? The Governor/filth Northam is an obvious eugenicist so he wants euthanasia, 9 month abortion, killing babies post birth and sees Deplorables as future Soylent Green. After observing a small part of the Soviet Show Trials put on by Comrade Nadless, I’m beyond ready to assist in composting all these f’ers.

think
think
  Mary Christine
December 13, 2019 12:47 pm

Why no tax revolt? If no one is willing to do that, you know what their words are worth on 2A.

James
James
December 13, 2019 9:16 am

I will say it again,have a list of addresses of all legislators/their aides ect.This way folks can go directly to their so called representatives homes and speak of their concerns in regards to these new laws coming about.

Ivan
Ivan
  James
December 13, 2019 9:51 am

“……and speak of their concerns”

The hour for speaking is long past James.

For alternate methods of redress, heed your suggestion.

Perhaps that was your point.

think
think
  James
December 13, 2019 12:48 pm

..

James
James
December 13, 2019 9:42 am

A nice way to help a bit and a excuse to build another tool of freedom:https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-virginia-15-ar-15-strippe ,a little pricey but for a good cause.I will say the ?’s page on item had a great ?,could they get lower engraved with”Virginia is for lowers”!

James
James
  James
December 13, 2019 9:56 am
Miles Long
Miles Long
  James
December 13, 2019 6:16 pm

In the small print it says that for each lower sold $10 goes to VCDL. VCDL is doing something, not only for Virginians,but for all of us. It’s $$ much better spent than joining NRAs wine club or funding Wayne’s retirement.

These guys have a sense of humor too. The warning about lead exposure is perfect.

Old Timer
Old Timer
December 13, 2019 10:04 am

Very good Tim.

Something my Grandfather drilled into me long ago, and I have so futility attempted to warn of here in the Ozarks for decades. Say NO to any kind of “government” assistance on your farm or in your county. Sanctions is how they will force almost everyone into submission. (Half of your “fellow citizens” will heap calumny and reproach upon you.) Half???? All HELL will come down on us defiant gun owners when the state and federal government tell a county to feed their own children, build their own bridges etc. How about that 2nd amend. farmer who has sucked from the filthy tit of the government sow? “Pay us back for that well we drilled on your farm, pay us back for that barn we built!” Do not have vain imaginations of being painted alongside the men of Lexington and Concord. No, we will think a ton of brick had fell on us! That being said, let it come.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
December 13, 2019 10:12 am

I’d like to know how these laws pass the ‘ex post facto’ test.

How do these laws pass the ‘prior restraint’ test?

How can they make illegal what was legal yesterday? And I’m not concerned with any grandfather provision as that creates a temporary protected class, removing them from the irate populace, that will eventually die out leaving only the unprotected class which is the entire aim of the grandfather clause.

How can they make something illegal by pointing at something that might happen in the future?

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 13, 2019 10:20 am

Because the Supreme court allows it and the people stand down and accept it.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Eyes Wide Shut
December 13, 2019 10:30 am

I’d like to know if all these anti 2nd amendment laws have ever been tested using ‘ex post facto’ or ‘prior restraint’ as the bone of contention in a proceeding.

I had a judge once tell me that ‘I can’t salute it unless you run it up the flagpole’. That tells me that the supremes or other judges won’t strike something down unless they are specifically asked to do so and if no one has run it up the flagpole the laws stand unchallenged.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 13, 2019 10:45 am

Or they do get run up the pole and the Supremes fail to accept it allowing the lower court ruling to stand or they accept it and rule in such a narrow manner they ignore all the obviously glaring peripheral issues that are screaming to be addressed.
The swamp is the swamp regardless of what branch of government is involved.
The reality is one more conservative supreme court justice could solidify the constitutional originist postions if we could only get them to act.
What scares the left absolutely to death is the prospect of one or more conservative supreme court justice appointments.
Even still remember the swamp is and likely will always be the swamp until completely drained by ballot or otherwise if that is ever possible.
The elite will likely never enact or afirm laws or rights that level rhe playing field or give the advantage to the dirt people.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
December 13, 2019 10:37 am

+100

ottomatik
ottomatik
December 13, 2019 10:44 am

Inspirational, Tim, thank you.

daniel
daniel
December 13, 2019 12:07 pm

so what?

the issue is not about the second amendment. and the large turnout in rural counties is irrelevant. these resolutions have no legal authority and so the cops won’t give two shits whether your county is 2A sanctuary or not when they blow open your door at 4 in the morning for their red flag warrant. and there will be no negative consequences for them to do so. if you were going to do something you would have done it in 94. or 86. or 34. but you didn’t. we didn’t.

the issue is why these laws are sprouting up all over the place, especially if there is such widespread opposition? the issue is immigration. demographics. that’s all that matters now. non-whites oppose 2A. full stop. having the random based le nigur means nothing when 99% of their race votes full communist gibs. so you make your county 2A sanctuary. (((they’ll))) just flood your county with beaners so in 30 years it won’t matter anyway. which is what happened in virginia and california and texas and florida and the rest of the south.

right wing fun squads.

James the Deplorable Wanderer
James the Deplorable Wanderer
  daniel
December 13, 2019 10:46 pm

[and there will be no negative consequences for them to do so.]
ANYONE blowing open my door at 4 in the morning had better expect consequences – and I doubt any precautions they might take will preserve them.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 13, 2019 12:27 pm

Timely words to not be taken lightly.

Grandfathering in means nothing. If you are covered by owning a fire stick before the law, it will just be a simple matter to require your grandfathered weapon to be registered for the safety of the community, so you will be in their sights anyway.

The toughest part will be learning to be fluid; we have been waiting years and suddenly will need to OODA* in a matter of hours, as opposed to months or years.

Be ready, be prepared, be prayerful.

*Observe Orient Decide Act

Posted by not sure

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
December 13, 2019 12:41 pm

I like the Sheriff’s idea of deputizing all legal gun owners. As LEO’s, they are required to own and carry firearms. Also, LEO’s can get select fire weapons without the federal license.

Question – If the governor calls up the nat’l guard, will they really enforce an illegal order? I would assume most of the guard are from the rural areas and support the 2A.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TN Patriot
December 13, 2019 1:14 pm

Remember Katrina?

M G
M G
  Anonymous
December 13, 2019 5:13 pm

We are not going to be sitting on our rooves like ducks, waiting.

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
  M G
December 14, 2019 3:23 pm

The people they seized weapons from in New Orleans after Katrina were not sitting on the tops of their housing. The National Guard, albeit from another state, went door to door seizing any weapon they could find and did this under martial law without warrant. To think the National Guard aka the US Army won’t seize weapons by order of the regional authority is a pipe dream. After all people from the north willingly killed people from the south and vice versa during the war of 1860 and yet they were all Americans.

Miles Long
Miles Long
  TN Patriot
December 13, 2019 6:28 pm
Jim in Va.
Jim in Va.
  TN Patriot
December 13, 2019 7:56 pm

TN they are here, most of them own guns and will not act when ordered(sickout-flu) Too many gun owners here in the mountain and these people are tough. Let the governor be the first to knock on doors.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Jim in Va.
December 13, 2019 9:17 pm

Just like any other liberal, the governor will send someone else to risk their life for his ideals.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
December 13, 2019 6:48 pm

Outstanding. One and all. Things getting sportier by the day it seems.

John
John
December 13, 2019 9:19 pm

You Virginians voted for them. Now, the only way to keep your rights is to eliminate them. With EXTREME PREJUDICE! Don’t expect citizens from other sovereign states to do your dirty work. We have our own job to do.

James the Deplorable Wanderer
James the Deplorable Wanderer
  John
December 13, 2019 10:47 pm

Damn, where to take vacation next? Maybe Virginia … be sure and have a few spares available, friends. Your visiting patriot acquaintances might need to borrow a few.

Doc
Doc
December 14, 2019 1:12 am

Do not forget about past communist revolutions in history. The military and police murdered huge numbers of their own countrymen which were ethnically the same.

Consider the timing of other states also announcing similar firearms legislation. Is it coincidental that economic conditions are also starting to look ominous?

Everyone keeps saying that many of the police and military personnel are pro 2A, and would not disarm their friends and family. How does Maduro keep his police and military support? They get food and financial incentives that keep their families fed, and they are allowed to shake down the peasants with heavy handed tactics.

Don’t underestimate your enemies. Want to have people hand in their guns willingly? Stop the food trucks from rolling. Two weeks of empty supermarket shelves will take the fight out of just about everyone. I’ll bet you the police and military willing to participate will get to feed their families. Anyone who turns in their neighbor for firearms ownership or just plain bad-speak will get some food.

This is not a game. Never mind the ammo, how long can you go without food, medicine, or heat?

gilberts
gilberts
  Doc
December 14, 2019 2:18 am

The difference is most of VA is rural and capable of feeding itself. Many of the people who would suffer under that scheme are the people who pretty much already support the liberal retards’ efforts to usurp the constitution. A lot of the patriots are also ready for trouble. And many of them are networked together. And VA is too critical to DC to falter. A simple car accident can be enough to wreck the daily commute into DC. An insurrection would be total chaos for the fedgov. Also, a lot of people in VA aren’t only gun owners, but Class III owners. And a huge % of them are career military vets, too. There are a lot of crazy toys in civilian hands up there. Go to a WWI or WWII reenactment or airshow some time to see some of the toys people have. If Governor Baby Killer, his rapist LT Gov, and the rest try anything, it could get very ugly for the very fast.

gilberts
gilberts
December 14, 2019 2:00 am

As a former Virginian, I am proud of and sorry for my former fellow citizens who are standing up to the globohomo liberal retards who took over the government and immediately showed their true red colors and tried to ban guns. [imgcomment image[/img] The countless thousands of patriots who have turned out to protest and demand their counties protect their rights, and the cops and sheriffs and politicians who responded to their call, is impressive, heroic, and the greatest example of this nation’s leadership following its historic constitutional role as servants to the people and the upholders of the state and federal constitutions under which they are sworn to operate. These are exciting times. I kind of wish I could be there with them…. but I sure do like living far away from the DC shithole. Keep your eyes on VA, because they might be the start point for the spicy times.

And check out the VA gun trader for up-to-the-minute information from locals on what’s happening. https://vaguntrader.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/forums/232/1 If you’re a Virginian and not a va gun trader user, check into it. Their chat is a great place to hang out and get interesting info.

Camoflage Pandemonium
Camoflage Pandemonium
December 14, 2019 10:23 am

Xrugger is correct.
Virginia in one sense has become a microcosm of California, where the cities dictate their liberal policies to the outliers who only wish to be left alone and in peace.
I have a sick feeling Virginia is a test-bed of sorts for the rest of the country, especially in states that mimic yours where the cities can make the rules for the rest of the state with their voting/’thought’ preferences.
Your plight will become ours eventually, Virginia. And it would appear that the only thing that stands in their way is the 2nd Amendment, the Constitution, a conservative majority SCOTUS, and the good and sensible people that still hold on to what is dear in this country.
I reside in Arkansas, where we currently have a dominant Republican political structure … for now. But Arkansas is shaped in many ways the same as Virginia; with large metropolitan counties accounting for ten to twelve percent of the 75 counties in this state. I can see them one day deciding the future of the other 65 plus counties based on their misguided votes and lines of ‘thinking’. It is already happening – in very tiny and subtle ways.
And the natural progression of this is a borderless country, borderless cities, and complete firearms controls. And all the while, our taxes will go to support their excesses and extravagances while the cancer that they so readily invite into their cities begins to spread to the rest of our rural lands.
Nevermind the fact that the system isn’t working in California, or Illinois, or in other like-minded states. This isn’t about common sense, or trying to make things better. This is a concerted effort by people whose base desires will not be denied. They think their ideas are the best, and wish to force them on us, especially when we fight back. In many ways, this is a spiritual battle, for what else can explain the sheer stupidity of their actions? The belligerence, the anger, the evil?
The zombie movies we all chuckle at come very close to describing what we are facing in America, only with these types of people, it is a zombification of the mind. They still look relatively normal, and can even act that way at times, but make no mistake, they are hungry. Very, very hungry.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Camoflage Pandemonium
December 14, 2019 1:16 pm

CA and VA share very little in common. The rural folks in VA were born from stock that embraced liberty from the outset. CA was founded on economic prospects and Manifest Destiny.

Blackdog's man
Blackdog's man
December 15, 2019 3:17 am

Washington state is next. Communist legislature and governor. Unconstitutional law passed against a part of the people regarding ownership of certain firearms in common use. Stand, and with you we stand, lie down and you lie down alone.