Democratic Presidential Candidates Are Trying to Pull this “Fast One” On Your Retirement Savings

From Birch Gold Group

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No matter what you think of him, there’s no denying that Bernie Sanders is a man on a singular mission.

As part of one of his far-reaching proposals, The Inclusive Prosperity Act of 2019, the Senator aims to “cancel every penny of student debt.”

For many on the left, the concept has been popular enough to garner Sanders significant support; so much so that he’s recently been polling in the top two for the Democratic nomination for president.

But for this proposal, the devil is in the details – specifically, how Sanders wants to pay for this massive outlay in government spending. According to documents on his website, he has proposed a financial transaction tax (FTT), which would impose a “modest tax for Wall Street.”

But Sanders’ definition of “Wall Street” might not align with yours.

According to a study conducted by the Center for Capital Markets, Sanders’ proposal is a “tax on investors, taxpayers, and consumers.”

Three key findings from the study provide some clarity on who would front the bill for this proposal:

#1 – Retirement savings will be hit hard.

“Under the version of the tax proposed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT), a typical retirement investor will end up with 8.5% less in his or her 401(k) or IRA after a lifetime of savings. In dollar terms, the average IRA investor would have $20,000 less at retirement as a result of this tax.”

#2 – Main Street will pay for the tax, not Wall Street.

“The real burden will be on ordinary investors, such as retirees, pension holders, and those saving for college. They will pay the tax directly when they trade, and pay it again as financial intermediaries pass on the taxes they face as a cost of doing business. FTTs are not actually a tax on financial intermediaries; they are a tax on investors.”

#3 – Pension fund expenses will go up and pension fund returns will go down.

“Likewise, the transaction taxes paid by pension funds will reduce their returns, worsening existing problems with underfunded pensions and making it more costly for governments and corporations to provide pensions.”

Texas Representative Dan Crenshaw tweeted a pointed critique of the bill, calling Sanders’ proposal a “fast one”:

An article in 401(k) Specialist added color:

Crenshaw’s comment echoed criticism from the financial services industry over various transaction tax proposals, with advocacy organizations arguing that any tax would be passed onto participants, negatively impacting retirement savings accumulation rates and account balances.

If that weren’t bad enough, should this plan go into effect, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce has found that Americans might experience an 8.5% drop in retirement portfolio accumulation. For the average retiree, that can add up to quite a bit of retirement income loss over time.

Of course, it remains to be seen if Sanders will win the nomination. But he isn’t the only Democrat proposing ideas like this.

Elizabeth Warren Has Another Idea (But It Isn’t Any Better)

The Senator from Massachusetts recently proposed to offer “debt cancellation of up to $50,000 to more than 42 million people, or 95% of those with debt,” according to an op-ed at Washington Examiner. This doesn’t seem very fair to students who have already paid their loans off.

But more importantly, there is that nagging question: How would Warren’s proposal be paid for? The answer appears to be similar to the one for Sanders’ plan, with yet another “wealth tax” on financial transactions that involve derivatives and most types of securities, like stocks and bonds.

Says Brian Graff, chief executive of the American Retirement Association:

The Warren proposal does, in fact, include a middle-class tax — a middle-class tax on retirement savings… Saving for retirement is hard work. And those in Washington shouldn’t work to make it any harder.

Just like Sanders’ plan, this “wealth tax” would leave retirement savers footing the bill.

Eliminate as Much “Government Meddling” as Possible

We’ve already seen how government meddling with pensions could work out. We’ve seen how the federal bailouts worked out.

State government solutions for pension problems don’t appear to have worked very well, either.

So you might want to consider an alternative to Wall Street stocks to avoid the potential nightmare that could erupt if tax-hungry politicians get their way.

Precious metals like gold and silver fall into that alternative category that would not be touched by the financial transaction taxes proposed by some the Democrats running for President in 2020.

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29 Comments
Brian Reilly
Brian Reilly
January 16, 2020 4:08 pm

Finally something from Sen. Sanders I can wholeheartedly agree with when he says “…the Hell with Wall Street.”. The Hell with Sanders, and Warren, and all the rest of them as well. The currency is completely and irrevocably corrupted, and (someday pretty soon) will go quickly to zero in value. Oh, there will be some sort of scrip issued so us groundlings can be kept from hanging every public official in the country and looting every store, but nobody is going to have any real money. Nobody I know, and nobody that the average TBP visitor knows either.

And if you buy gold, pay cash, put the physical gold in your pocket, and don’t even tell your dog you have it. I am no investment advisor don’t necessarily recommend it, but if you are going to buy gold to avoid currency meltdown, buy gold, not an ETF or mining stock.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  Brian Reilly
January 16, 2020 7:24 pm

They have silver and gold on lockdown, when pm’s become the last man standing they will call ’em in.
Wish I could bet on that.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
January 16, 2020 4:32 pm

I graduated in 1974 with ZERO debt and would like to be reimbursed for my college expenses, plus 46 years of compounded interest.

TX Patriot
TX Patriot
  TN Patriot
January 16, 2020 7:20 pm

TN,
Great comment. I graduated in 1971 with ZERO debt and also would like to be reimbursed for my college expense plus 49 years interest. Same goes for my wife who graduated in 1970 and for my daughter who graduated in 2005 plus another with her Masters in 2009. Lotta interest owed to us as well as you.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  TX Patriot
January 16, 2020 7:23 pm

TX – It’s just like the ’08 mortgage crisis. Those who bought houses with mortgages they could not afford got bailed out and those of us who bought houses within our means and paid our mortgages on time got to pay for the others, too.

Skin Flint
Skin Flint
  TN Patriot
January 16, 2020 10:19 pm

Tex and Ten, you are missing the key element: you have both failed to present as a VICTIM. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200; case dismissed.

Nanky52
Nanky52
  Skin Flint
January 17, 2020 10:17 pm

I am white so according to the Dems criteria I can never be a “victim” nor can I ever expect any government help if I need it.

gman
gman
January 16, 2020 4:48 pm

“cancel every penny of student debt.”

trump should preempt bernie on this one.

jgb
jgb
  gman
January 16, 2020 7:28 pm

Ok — let’s make a deal. Your student loan is canceled, and so is my mortgage. However, I’m going to refinance and cash out up to 98% of it’s super inflated value first.

gman
gman
  jgb
January 16, 2020 7:44 pm

suits me. and I don’t even have a student loan.

it all comes clear when you realize that student loans, mortgages, auto loans, etc – are not loans. they never loaned you anything. not one dime.

jgb
jgb
  gman
January 16, 2020 8:33 pm

I disagree— in cahoots with the government, the banking system created an obligation where people exchange their future labor and commit to a life of servitude in exchange for receiving something they have not yet earned.

gman
gman
  jgb
January 27, 2020 11:21 am

it all falls into place when you realize exactly who is getting exactly what.

gman
gman
January 16, 2020 4:50 pm

“who would front the bill for this proposal”

the goyim.

“modest tax for …”

… the goyim.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
January 16, 2020 5:27 pm

If Warren wants to spread “helicopter money” why not just cut a check to every American for $50k and be done with it? Of course the cost of everything will double overnight, but what the hell, the currency is no good anyway. And there’s an extra $21 Trillion the Pentagon and HUD can’t account for. So the national debt right now is about $43 Trillion which will never be repaid.

John
John
January 16, 2020 6:32 pm

Eliminate Federal government. $2-3 trillion annual savings.

Jdog
Jdog
  John
January 16, 2020 7:38 pm

Now there is a proposal I would vote for!

jgb
jgb
January 16, 2020 7:25 pm

What do mean Democrats? All of them have been stealing from defined contribution retirement plans! That was the whole idea behind legislating the pitfalls (locking people into plans where you’re penalized for taking the funds out).

Jdog
Jdog
January 16, 2020 7:36 pm

Hey, how about this for a plan. You borrow the money, you repay the money…. Oh, sorry, that would involve some degree of individual responsibility, which is contrary to liberal principals….

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
January 16, 2020 7:57 pm

I like the idea of a HFT tax.. I would be happy with $1/transaction. Would slow down machine trading, which doesn’t help real investors anyway. It would probably end up being gamed like everything else, but I’d rather see that taxed than a lot of what they tax currently.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Chubby Bubbles
January 17, 2020 10:16 am

Everyone should pay more in taxes , but me.

James the Deplorable Wanderer
James the Deplorable Wanderer
  Chubby Bubbles
January 17, 2020 8:19 pm

So if I buy a stock valued at $0.015 / share and buy 100 shares I pay 1.50 for the stock and another 1.00 so you can feel virtuous? Why?

niebo
niebo
January 16, 2020 9:01 pm

they are a tax on investors.

Of course they are, kinda like the “haircuts” in Cypress, right? Everybody who has already paid their taxes and still managed to save/invest gets f*cked. And in case of an actual communist takeover, ALL investment accounts will be gone . . . because it’s the government’s responsibility to leave you penniless, not allow you to take responsibility for yourself.

Realestatepup
Realestatepup
January 16, 2020 9:43 pm

The sad reality is this: A college education is not worth what the vast majority of students pay for it. And the vast majority of people who go to college shouldn’t have in the first place.
Unless you want to get some kind of MD/PHD in sciences or a law degree, there is very little reason to go to college.
Good paying jobs, such as electrician and plumber, can be learned at a trade school while in high school.
“Teaching” degrees are, in my opinion, also a waste of time. If you already have a degree in Biology, Math, History, or English, why do you need a “masters” in education? All BS to push ridiculous curriculum agendas.
Kids going to college to get degrees in liberal arts might as well be setting a pile of cash on fire.
The cost of college across the board, not just top-tier “ivy league” schools has risen dramatically for no damn reason at all from what I can see.
The amount of nonsensical courses kids are made to take as part of their education adds nothing to said education, stretches out the time they are there for no reason, and pads the pockets of the college and otherwise unemployable individuals teaching this crap.
I’ve heard the arguments that this is supposed to make well-rounded graduates but I have yet to see the evidence.
From a coddled, sheltered childhood, into a coddled, sheltered teen HS experience, right into more coddling and sheltering through college you end up with nothing but a fearful herd of maladjusted young people live in daily fear of some guy with a weird comb over and a spray tan.
Gone are the days when you paid attention to your own shit, paid your own way, cleaned up your own mess.
Common sense is extinct. Reading anything longer than a tweet is considered too hard.
These young people think the entire universe revolves around social media.
Women who are known for NOTHING MORE than having a large ass and the combined IQ between them all of a pile of dirty laundry are now authorities on prison reform.
Emotion rules the day, and if something makes you “feel bad” then it must BE bad. Feelings aren’t fact people.
We must legislate bullies away instead of letting them get smacked in the face on the playground when they are 6 so they never do that shit again.
Women are men, men are women, and it’s your problem to figure it out and if you don’t, then you may end up on the wrong side of an angry group of overgrown toddlers with smart phones.
It’s 1984 and Brave New World all rolled into one.
Remember though, the pendulum swings both ways. Gravity’s a bitch folks.

AC
AC
January 16, 2020 10:41 pm

So . . . .

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This is pretty simple, actually. It takes 6 white people to support 1 Mexican and 1 black. That is, 75% of the population – at a minimum – must be white, to generate enough wealth to cover the societal costs of the non-whites.

We’re already below that. It can’t not collapse, if nothing changes.

So, the government is going to steal your retirement savings to keep Jose and Dacron supplied with free shit for a few extra years – while you’re eating out of dumpsters.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  AC
January 17, 2020 2:22 pm
old white guy
old white guy
January 17, 2020 8:09 am

Communism never works anywhere ever.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  old white guy
January 17, 2020 2:20 pm

Define ‘works.’

If the goal is the destruction of a society, and the replacement of the existing ruling class by (usually Jewish) criminals and lunatics who then subjugate the populace, then communism works great.

If the goal is the transparent bullshit communism claims to be for, then it’s a complete failure.

TampaRed
TampaRed
January 17, 2020 9:41 am

this is about the bank of england but i’ll bet it gets repeated here–
the head of the bank of england says climate change will make pensions worthless–

Carney of Bank of England Claims Climate Change Will Make Pensions Worthless

Marilyn Renee
Marilyn Renee
January 17, 2020 11:35 am

Fear not. Sanders will never be president. He would not survive it in his old age. All candidates, get your eyes off of our retirement, like today.