A father confronted Elizabeth Warren about her plan to forgive student loan debt in a tense face-to-face conversation, asserting that those who paid for college tuition themselves would get “screwed” under her proposal.
He spoke to the Massachusetts Democratic senator in a photo line after a presidential campaign town hall event in Grimes, Iowa, on Monday.
“I just wanted to ask one question. My daughter is getting out of school. I’ve saved all my money. She doesn’t have any student loans. Am I going to get my money back?” the man in an embroidered leather jacket asked Warren.
“Of course not,” the Massachusetts senator, 70, responded.
“So you’re going to pay for people who didn’t save any money and those of us who did the right thing get screwed,” he said.
Warren has staked her campaign on a plethora of bold left-wing policy proposals, giving her campaign the rallying cry, “I have a plan for that.” One of her plans calls for eliminating student loan debt of up to $50,000 for households making under $100,000, which would apply to about 95% of borrowers and wipe out student loan debt entirely for 75% of borrowers. Last week, Warren promised to implement her plan through executive action, bypassing Congress.
During the confrontation Monday, Warren protested, communicating that no one would get “screwed.”
“Of course we did. My buddy had fun, bought a car, went on vacations. I saved my money,” he said. “He made more than I did. But I worked a double shift, worked extra — my daughter worked since she was 10. So, you’re laughing.”
“No, I’m not,” Warren said.
“Yeah, that’s exactly what you’re doing,” he said. “We did the right thing, and we get screwed,” he added, before walking away from the photo line without a photo.
“I appreciate your time,” Warren said.
Warren was long seen as a more palatable left-wing alternative to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and saw a bump in Democratic presidential primary polls in late summer and early fall of 2019. But she has faded as Sanders regained popularity and sits in third place in the RealClearPolitics average of national primary polls with 14.8% support, while Sanders has 22% and former Vice President Joe Biden has 28.7%.
The Massachusetts senator had a fiery confrontation with Sanders in a “hot mic” moment after a Democratic presidential debate last week. She had alleged that Sanders told her in a private 2018 conversation that he did not think a woman could win the presidency in 2020, but Sanders denied making that statement. Although Warren said she wanted to move on from the dispute, she told Sanders after the debate, “I think you just called me a liar on national TV.”
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The Constitution makes it quite clear that ALL revenue legislation MUST begin its journey in the House of Representatives, and MUST be approved by both houses before being signed into law by the president. Given the obvious clarity of this, how can anyone sit by and NOT call out this CLEARLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL proposal (bypassing Congress if necessary) as being just that?? This would be a REVENUE proposal. There would be a COST. Where would the money come from if NOT approved by the Congress?
How far gone are we as a nation when shit like this can come out of the mouths of people who have ALREADY taken an oath to uphold the Constitution, and will be taking another if elected?? Yeah, I know, we are in the shitter…
It’s political season campaign bullshit that will all be forgotten after the election.
Like any new president, the focus after the election will move away from campaign promises and back to dropping bombs, throwing love and money at Israel, fealty to the international banking cartel, Wall Street / MIC mega-giveaways, compounding regulations / taxation, and continual erosion of what few civil liberties remain.
Trump talked big but I’ll praise him after he finally finishes that wall, throws out all the beaners and H-1B Indians, and tells the chinks and EU and NATO to fuck-off once and for all. But so far, not one peep about altering the “relationship” with the Federal Reserve System – you know, (((them))) + Rockefellers / Stillmans.
Well said. All a bunch of liars.
Last I heard, 37% of Americans adults have a four year college degree. So 63% don’t (although they may have some college). Some people – a lot of people – didn’t want to go to college. Telling a guy who hangs Sheetrock or sells cars or houses that their taxes are going to go to pay off some Antifa’s student loans ain’t going to go over well. People like the guy in the video will be pissed. Kids who did two years in community college before transferring to a state school and who lived in their parents’ house are going to be pissed. This cunt from Harvard has no fucking idea.
The idea is to steal your hard earned savings (and sacrifices).
Imagine reparations then-she’s for that too.
Two wrongs don’t make a right…duh.
The Chinese couple were very excited to become naturalized American citizens. When they had a baby it looked Chinese. They went to the doctor and asked “why doesn’t our baby look like an American – we are American citizens.” The doctor said that’s easy: “Two Wong’s don’t make a white.”
Dont think they could find a bigger CUNT if they tried. Fuck Warren
They tried one out last time around. WAY bigger CUNT than Warren.
I believe that’s Pocahontas’s campaign slogan: “Less cunty than the Pantsuit we tried last time.”
Both of their cunts have teeth in them.
After she said Thanks for chatting,
He should have said “Fuck you, Pocahontas”
before walking away, shaking his head in disgust.
Bring her on, Progtards.
She’ll get a substantial number of votes from stupid women and
the free shit army, but Trump voters will trounce her lyin’ ass,
IF the ballot count isn’t rigged by Soros operatives and non-citizens.
Now that would have made me fall off the sofa and maybe die of laughter if he said that….but his exit will allow unedited news…..
Fools. This is the point. They want Trump for 4 more years. This is why they have all the total retards on the other party and a joke called impeachment. They need Trump on that wall. The donors need him there, so they can extract the last bit of wealth from the middle class and poor and transfer it to the oligarchs. It is a big club and we ain’t in it. Socialism for the ultra rich, capitalism for everyone else.
Who gives a shit? If the federal reserve, corporations and Congress are the owners, fuck it, give me free shit.
I’ve come to realize maybe all bets are off on the loony democratoony platoony. (What do you think? It has potential but needs something.)
You do realize a proposal like that will bring out the college-age in droves? Young twenty-somethings who have already run up more debt in school than some of us carried throughout our lives. Now, facing monthly payments which are probably rivaling most of their salaries, they are the perfect segment of the population for an Indian Princess to promise the Moon Blessing of debt dismissal. Poof! It just went away like that South Park kid’s money.
I’m kind of disheartened by recent events.
What does the bible say about debt jubilee?
I think Stucky discussed Jubilee tactics in one of his sermons.
It works once every 4th Turning. 70years.
What it says it says to Israel. Not us. But the “we are Israel 2.0” crowd will latch on. They are a big crowd.
She is a liar…pocafraudus
And this sounds like an impeachable offense given current climate. Bribery of the voters. Millions of them. Abuse of office as well.
She is in the wrong political party to get impeached over a minor thing like buying votes.
If he was smart he would have said his name and what he did… then he could have become widely known like Joe the Plumber.
All these politicians have to do is “to promise” to do something like forgive student loans, make college free, free unlimited medical, They know they never have to deliver- just use the excuses Congress will not work with me, it is being challenged in court and on and on!
I kind of identify with WB, but also with many others. My grandson’s college debt is paid for – by me, with help from his other grandmother, with help from his father, who worked two jobs for years to help him, and by my grandson himself, who worked every summer, graduated in four years, went to work immediately, lived with a grandmother rent-free and threw about two thirds of his take-home pay at his college loans. We did the right thing and I do not regret it. Nor do I want to support those who demand the ‘free stuff’ or the politicians like Warren who pander to them.
However, there are many villains to go around in this debacle. Spoiled kids, obviously, but also colleges and universities that grossly inflated their administrative budgets to take advantage of government-guaranteed largess while at the same time doing a sh— job of preparing kids for the real world by offering ridiculous majors in various kinds of basket weaving. And, the dratted Obama administration federalized the student loan program as a revenue enhancer, which resulted in immediate increases in interest on those dratted loans while at the same time encouraging the greedy behavior of the ‘higher education’ bureaucracy, which inflated loan amounts still further.
So, while it enrages me no end to think indebted, foolish kids kids and their parents should get a free ride at my expense, maybe the first artillery fire should first be directed at the ‘higher learning’ institutions that exploited this thing. I mean make them pick up the tab and then make them guarantee/underwrite student loans from now on. AND, force them to reduce the disgusting numbers of ‘administrators’ and ‘assistant deans’ they have hired at six-figure salaries. Not to mention the obscene salaries paid to college presidents. Nothing is going to change until the crooks who robbed us get the hook.
Just my opinion.
Perfect Sue. Just perfect.
Colleges should be required to co-sign all student loans. This would do away with all the BS degrees in gender studies, black history, etc. It would also insure that all of the students were qualified and were making progress towards a “real” degree or they would get no more loans.
That single change would eliminate 1,000’s of administrative positions and cut college costs dramatically.
Sue, glad to see you are getting warmed up for when the day Social Security and Medicare go insolvent but we are told by our caring government that we should feel good that 40 million illegals are having their dignity preserved by being allowed on our retirement and medical plans that we, as wage earners, paid into over decades.
Good ideas!
Here’s how to cut college costs:
1) get the government out of the student loan business
2) allow student loans to be discharged in bankruptcy
That would eliminate 80% of student loans. Studying something that will make you employable? Student loans might be available. Chicano studies? No student loan for you.
Colleges would have to cut costs as they see their enrollments plummet. Teachers would have to teach. Womyns Studies departments would be closed. Colleges would default on the debts they took on to build fancy student centers and student housing. It would be a glorious collapse. Ex-sociology professors would have to drive for GrubHub.
It is morally reprehensible and unconstitutional for the Federal Government to steal from one citizen in order to give to another. Democrats are communists and a danger to America.
Yet Social Security and Medicare withholding both do that. They are transfer payments, NOT sanctioned by the U.S. Constitution.
Social Security and Medicare were paid with money taken out of my pockets for years. The folks who don’t work and yet get Medicaid and SS are the deadbeats and you conveniently ignore that little factoid, don’t you….
The taking is the crime, regardless of what may or may not be given back. Once taken, you have NO rights to the money. That factoid is right on the SS website.
The list of immoral and Unconstitutional takings is near endless. And obviously, BOTH worthless major parties are more than happy to support the theft and transfer, if it will buy them votes and get them re-elected. The only real differences are the beneficiaries of the theft.
It may be immoral, but it’s not unconstitutional. Congress has the explicit power to tax and spend to “provide for the general welfare”. Things like transfer payments don’t have to be specifically “sanctioned” by the constitution.
From a REAL TN Patriot almost 200 years ago:
“We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money.” U S Rep David Crockett (TN) April 2, 1828
Obviously Senator Robert Byrd paid no mind to that idea when he was having the SSA build all those buildings in his state that are used to hold the IOUs immediately generated when FICA revenues are funneled into the general fund to be spent however Congress chooses.
So the republicans are against government theft and government handouts….are they?? Must have missed that (sarc.). Both have NO MORAL GROUND to stand on whatsoever in their support of theft and “redistribution.”
Just look at the human scum running for the presidency. They’ll say anything to get the vote of the dregs of the society.
Everyone running for EVERY political race (with the exception of the libertarians (both small and large “L”) and maybe a couple of others, will say anything and promise anything to get the vote of everyone in society. If the problem was limited to the presidency, this country wouldn’t be anywhere near as screwed up.
This sure is a tough way to exact free health care for the rest of whoever wins life but I guess its worth it.
Disagree vehemently with this whole debt forgiveness on potentially extended childhood sojourns called higher education, yet if the debt is to be wiped one would have to say that ALL records of having attended such circus school have to be wiped.
No diploma, degree or MBA, the piece of paper must be handed back, the circuses are to forensically expunge all vestiges of you attending their circus and make it a felony crime if you claim to have attended such circus or have completed a circus event.
BTW a simple common law contract saying once we wipe your debt, you can’t claim any reference to your circus training should suffice. Now sign here and face the full brunt of the law if you breach and pst if you breach contract your debt plus interest has been re-activated.
I know it is simple but like they teach in bullshit schools KISS, Keep It Simple Stupid.
I think degrees in lesbian gender studies would ultimately be abolished and then can get back on track with real higher learning.
I like the way you think.
Post moar.
Unfortunately, what I would like to see is not going to happen. On another related tangent, the only hiring governments should do is hire people with an IQ of >80 & <90, to read contracts. Hey, don't laugh, if those dumb shits don't understand it then the contract contains to much legalese and not enough plain English.
I have always said that the more legalese in a contract the more that organisation wants to and will be screwing you over. Here's looking at you bankers.
Think of all the ambulance chasing lawyers out of business, the "just for them" courts mostly out of business and the amount of confusion cut to minimum. We sign this, you do this I do that and we work mutually to what we signed for. You breach, your fucked.
Hell you could start the ball rolling with "higher education" contracts.
This woman’s entire professional life is based on fraudulent access to the system. She even picked native Americans as the target because she felt she could get away with it. Can you imagine how the native Americans on the reservations feel about this…….
She is a fraud….plain and simple. Send her home to drink beer with the invisible husband…
You can’t have a criminal class unless you have victims.
It’s really that simple.
Good people who obey the law and follow the rules and do what is right may as well walk around with a sign on their back that says ‘kick me’.
In a just society, THOSE people would be the only ones allowed to do the kicking.
Anywhere and everywhere, you get what you incentivize. And that pretty much sums up our current global state.
I paid for all 3 kids full college and i will get fucked under these socialist plans.
Should tuition ever become free, can you imagine the cost of tuition the schools will charge? You think it’s high now?
Also, the bogus horseshit degree curriculums would boggle your brain. It would make the favorite underwater basket weaving look absolutely highbrow.
sanders is now leading biden nationally & is crushing warren–
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/34705-poll-shocker-bernie-leads-biden-and-field-nationally?ct=t(EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_12_2_2019_15_37_COPY_01)&mc_cid=74c014fbd8&mc_eid=e8bb95f2a8