Coronavirus Contains “HIV Insertions”, Stoking Fears Over Artificially Created Bioweapon

Via ZeroHedge

Over the past few days, the mainstream press has vigorously pushed back against a theory about the origins of the coronavirus that has now infected as many as 70,000+ people in Wuhan alone (depending on whom you believe). The theory is that China obtained the coronavirus via a Canadian research program, and started molding it into a bioweapon at the Institute of Virology in Wuhan. Politifact pointed the finger at Zero Hedge, in particular, though the story was widely shared across independent-leaning media.

The theory is that the virus, which was developed by infectious disease experts may have originated in the Wuhan-based lab of Dr. Peng Zhou, China’s preeminent researcher of bat immune systems, specifically in how their immune systems adapt to the presence of viruses like coronavirus and other destructive viruses. Somehow, the virus escaped from the lab, and the Hunan fish market where the virus supposedly originated is merely a ruse.

Now, a respected epidemiologist who recently caught flack for claiming in a twitter threat that the virus appeared to be much more contagious than initially believed is pointing out irregularities in the virus’s genome that suggests it might have been genetically engineered for the purposes of a weapon, and not just any weapon but the deadliest one of all.

In “Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag“, Indian researchers are baffled by segments of the virus’s RNA that have no relation to other coronaviruses like SARS, and instead appear to be closer to HIV. The virus even responds to treatment by HIV medications.

For those pressed for time, here are the key findings from the paper, which first focuses on the unique nature of 2019-nCoV, and then observe four amino acid sequences in the Wuhan Coronavirus which are homologous to amino acid sequences in HIV1:

Our phylogentic tree of full-length coronaviruses suggests that 2019-nCoV is closely related to SARS CoV [Fig1].

In addition, other recent studies have linked the 2019-nCoV to SARS CoV. We therefore compared the spike glycoprotein sequences of the 2019-nCoV to that of the SARS CoV (NCBI Accession number: AY390556.1). On careful examination of the sequence alignment we found that the 2019- nCoV spike glycoprotein contains 4 insertions [Fig.2]. To further investigate if these inserts are present in any other corona virus, we performed a multiple sequence alignment of the spike glycoprotein amino acid sequences of all available coronaviruses (n=55) [refer Table S.File1] in NCBI refseq (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov) this includes one sequence of 2019-nCoV[Fig.S1]. We found that these 4 insertions [inserts 1, 2, 3 and 4] are unique to 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses analyzed. Another group from China had documented three insertions comparing fewer spike glycoprotein sequences of coronaviruses . Another group from China had documented three insertions comparing fewer spike glycoprotein sequences of coronaviruses (Zhou et al., 2020).

We then translated the aligned genome and found that these inserts are present in all Wuhan 2019-nCoV viruses except the 2019-nCoV virus of Bat as a host [Fig.S4]. Intrigued by the 4 highly conserved inserts unique to 2019-nCoV we wanted to understand their origin. For this purpose, we used the 2019-nCoV local alignment with each insert as query against all virus genomes and considered hits with 100% sequence coverage. Surprisingly, each of the four inserts aligned with short segments of the Human immunodeficiency Virus-1 (HIV-1) proteins. The amino acid positions of the inserts in 2019-nCoV and the corresponding residues in HIV-1 gp120 and HIV-1 Gag are shown in Table 1.

The first 3 inserts (insert 1,2 and 3) aligned to short segments of amino acid residues in HIV-1 gp120. The insert 4 aligned to HIV-1 Gag. The insert 1 (6 amino acid residues) and insert 2 (6 amino acid residues) in the spike glycoprotein of 2019-nCoV are 100% identical to the residues mapped to HIV-1 gp120. The insert 3 (12 amino acid residues) in 2019- nCoV maps to HIV-1 gp120 with gaps [see Table 1]. The insert 4 (8 amino acid residues) maps to HIV-1 Gag with gaps.

Why do the authors think the virus may be man-made? Because when looking at the above insertions which are not present in any of the closest coronavirus families, “it is quite unlikely for a virus to have acquired such unique insertions naturally in a short duration of time.” Instead, they can be found in cell identification and membrane binding proteins located in the HIV genome.

Since the S protein of 2019-nCoV shares closest ancestry with SARS GZ02, the sequence coding for spike proteins of these two viruses were compared using MultiAlin software. We found four new insertions in the protein of 2019-nCoV- “GTNGTKR” (IS1), “HKNNKS” (IS2), “GDSSSG” (IS3) and “QTNSPRRA” (IS4) (Figure 2). To our surprise, these sequence insertions were not only absent in S protein of SARS but were also not observed in any other member of the Coronaviridae family (Supplementary figure). This is startling as it is quite unlikely for a virus to have acquired such unique insertions naturally in a short duration of time.

The insertions were observed to be present in all the genomic sequences of 2019-nCoV virus available from the recent clinical isolates. To know the source of these insertions in 2019-nCoV a local alignment was done with BLASTp using these insertions as query with all virus genome. Unexpectedly, all the insertions got aligned with Human immunodeficiency Virus-1 (HIV-1). Further analysis revealed that aligned sequences of HIV-1 with 2019-nCoV were derived from surface glycoprotein gp120 (amino acid sequence positions: 404-409, 462-467, 136-150) and from Gag protein (366-384 amino acid) (Table 1). Gag protein of HIV is involved in host membrane binding, packaging of the virus and for the formation of virus-like particles. Gp120 plays crucial role in recognizing the host cell by binding to the primary receptor CD4.This binding induces structural rearrangements in GP120, creating a high affinity binding site for a chemokine co-receptor like CXCR4 and/or CCR5.

And some visuals, which lead the paper authors to conclude that “this structural change might have also increased the range of host cells that 2019-nCoV can infect”:

3D modelling of the protein structure displayed that these insertions are present at the binding site of 2019-nCoV. Due to the presence of gp120 motifs in 2019-nCoV spike glycoprotein at its binding domain, we propose that these motif insertions could have provided an enhanced affinity towards host cell receptors. Further, this structural change might have also increased the range of host cells that 2019-nCoV can infect. To the best of our knowledge, the function of these motifs is still not clear in HIV and need to be explored. The exchange of genetic material among the viruses is well known and such critical exchange highlights the risk and the need to investigate the relations between seemingly unrelated virus families.

A good recap of the findings was provided by Dr. Feigl-Ding, who started his explanatory thread by pointing out that the transmission rate outside China has surpassed the rate inside China.

But the ‘smoking gun’ in this case are pieces of the virus’s genetic code that Indian researchers, led by Prashant Pradhan at the Indian Institute of Technology, found may have been ’embedded’ from HIV, which belongs to an entirely different family of viruses.

To be sure, Dr. Feigl-Ding insists that he’s not trying to promote any ‘conspiracies’ about the virus being a bioweapon developed by the Chinese, although it is difficult to find a proper name for what appears to be an artificial, weaponized virus.

Another doctor chimed in with what he thought was a solid explanation for the virus’s irregularities…

…Until he realized something disturbing.

“Scary”… but relax, it’s just another ridiculous “conspiracy.”

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Anonymous
Anonymous

They are forcing us to all become gay and lesbian…..once you have HIV, like everyone else, why not try it, is their thoughts…..

Hyperborean
Hyperborean

Sounds like a typical Chinese fuck up. If you saw how they manage their oil field operations you’d understand how something like this isn’t just probable, but inevitable.

Hyperborean
Hyperborean

The issue with these guys and their management structure regarding anything serious is that they are so incredibly discretized. Those on the ground responsible for doing things only know their tiny piece in the giant puzzle and rarely know not only what the other pieces do or how different pieces fit and work together, but don’t know that these other pieces even exist.

Those responsible for ensuring all the pieces work together are often many levels above the people on the ground, and in some far away city, and are always “busy”. Executives are highly removed from the action on the ground and the Chinese cultural impetus is to push only positive information up the chain of command, with many opportunities to edit said information along the way. So, it is no wonder the chinks don’t move into action until events are well into FUBAR level.

And yeah, I read the Steve Jobs story about how the plastic iSpy touchscreen got easily scratched and the chinks figured out that it should be replaced with something that didn’t scratch so easily (duh). But, what I couldn’t believe is that it took 3,000 engineers two weeks to figure that out (42,000 man-hours). This is the scale that it takes to get even simple things done with the Chinese, and now they have a situation where collective efforts can easily prove fatal, so these guys are fucked big time.

We have our problems here, but the chink model of inflexibility, absolute command control, and zero improvisation on the ground is NOT the solution unless one is truly bent on enslaving humanity and completely denuding the planet within the next 30 years.

One sign that things are truly out of control will be when convoys of dump trucks begin entering Wuhan. That will mean the casualty rate is much higher than the rate at which the crematoriums can operate and the Chinese will resort to dumping and burning bodies in landfills like the Angolan authorities did just after the Jan 1993 4 day Civil War in Luanda. Satellite imaging can pick that up.

Hyperborean
Hyperborean

Biological weapons are not necessarily designed to kill, they are more often designed to incapacitate an enemy. The more living cases there are, the more potential vectors there are, and thus the more living cases there are on and on. Plus, the more sick enemy there are the more resources get used up caring for the sick rather than fighting. Like in old days when the victor would cut off a prisoner’s right thumb and let him go, or a modern day biological toe-tapper.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Huutsi vs tutsi or whateverthefuck in africa. Cut off the enemys hands. Cant take ca re of yourself with no hands

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic

Caesar did the same thing, cut off their hands and let them go, as a warning to other resisters.

Brian Reilly
Brian Reilly

Is it mostly true, what they say about this virus, or mostly false? No way for the average mutt to rate reporting on DNA sequencing, or on what is happening in far-removed places. Lots and lots of evidence that information and propaganda are carefully used by governments all over the globe to induce us mutts to do things we would not otherwise do. Lots and lots of evidence that a great many people would not be sad to see a lot of people (especially old people) die quickly and no longer require maintenance or upkeep.

The powers-that-be will do anything to keep what they have, and get what they want. Never forget that fact. They would prefer your cooperation. They would also prefer that you keep working, to keep the global machine working. So this virus is probably more propagandistic scam than anything, but it might be a little bit bad, just enough to make us mutts do what they want.

flash
flash

Propaganda scam ? If this spreads at even half the rate Chris Martenson ( RO 4.08) is reporting then we all be ******.
Also Chinese cities are easy to lock down due to homogeneity and low to no crime , but wut about muh diversity cities ? Martial law ?
Ordo Ab Chao ?

Why The White House Just Declared A National Health Emergency

Giovanni
Giovanni

why not wait a week and two? It will turn out a non-event. Many doomsters with their subscription services making a killing now with spreading panic.

StackingStock
StackingStock

Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it!!

What says you FUCK????

FYI, I’m long past of giving a FUCK!!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Sounds like we could be really fucked here , so while congress and senate screw around impeaching Trump to protect Hillary and Biden we as a population could start dropping like flies

Anonymous
Anonymous

Zero Hedge was kicked off Twitter two or three hours after they published the info about the HIV genes in the novel coronavirus (although for a different stated reason).

old white guy
old white guy

permanently banned now.

M G
M G

Seriously? I’ve been offline… is this that sensitive an issue?

niebo
niebo

YES

BL THE VOICE OF REASON
BL THE VOICE OF REASON

MG and Niebo- Can’t say some of us haven’t warned for years about the elites thinning the population with all manner of evil shit.

M G
M G

Well, I did just watch a pretty good video about why societies collapse… War, Disease and Famine in varying combinations seems to be a common recipe.

BL THE VOICE OF REASON
BL THE VOICE OF REASON

Magoo- When Commodus came to power after his father’s death, a plague killed over 5 MILLION Romans or roughly one third of the population. It can get much worse Mags. The Roman army was decimated also.

Vitriolic angels have been pouring out plagues upon humans for a very long time.

M G
M G

I’ve been studying some history too.

My son is on his way here. I may spray him with Thieves essential oil and rinse his clothes in borax just to make myself feel better.

BL THE VOICE OF REASON
BL THE VOICE OF REASON

If he traveled by plane, prolly not a bad idea.

niebo
niebo

burn them.

wait. did I say that out loud?

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
e.d. ott
e.d. ott

The Hedge implied the coronavirus might have been intentionally modified by a Chinese researcher studying sick, asymptomatic bats, then put a face to a name with loads of circumstantial facts.
The Chinese officials have very little mercy for major mistakes like this and, if true, this guy is already in a hole six feet under – after handing over all his research and singing like a bird to Party officials before he met an unfortunate workplace accident.

niebo
niebo

Also this interview by Del Bigtree (producer of Vaxxed):

https://youtu.be/h1j2bIo5Ogc?t=1390

This interview beat the ZH article to publication by a few hours but, due to his ongoing study, DOES NOT mention HIV but that the genome has “markers” of an “insert” . . .

interview starts at 23 minutes.

M G
M G

I watched the documentary “One Child Nation” available on Amazon Prime and I have got to tell you I have had to re-evaluate the meaning of the word inscrutable.

I thought it meant “hard to read.”

I think it means “cannot be read.”

Have the Chinese people ever lived under anything other than Monarchy (Empire) or Communism?

BL THE VOICE OF REASON
BL THE VOICE OF REASON

No.
Why are Americans begging to join them in their misery? Go Bernie/Commie

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)

Just your moniker is reassuring, Bea.

BL THE VOICE OF REASON
BL THE VOICE OF REASON

EC- If this coronavirus should get you too (God forbid), there will be no more BOHICANS……

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)

But there will still be BROHICANS. We aren’t all going to die, it will accelerate the attrition of boomers but a generation that survived marihuana, acid, heroin, coke and disco can’t be eradicated easily, we ain’t soy.

Hyperborean
Hyperborean

I once went to lunch with some Chinese geophysical researchers from our Chinese parent company Sinopec and the conversation turned to our kids. Our Chinese guests each proudly described their child’s achievements like all parents do. Then I began talking about my younger 3 kids. About two minutes in, one of our guests interrupts me nearly in tears, and in his best English began to describe how incredibly lucky I was that I could have more than one child. The whole rest of the lunch was very sombre, and I hadn’t realized just how crushing this one child policy was on the Chinese until that day.

And these guys started the lunch very excited since we were eating at Yao Ming’s restaurant (remember him?). It was like a rainy day at Disneyland for these guys.

niebo
niebo

wow

BL THE VOICE OF REASON
BL THE VOICE OF REASON

hyper- So explain to me exactly why we Americans sat around in an insouciant state and LET TPTB send them OUR jobs, OUR companies/industries, allow the Chinese to buy up our farmland and food supply, while WE paid for our own demise buying MADE in CHINA goods?

WHO should really be sniveling/crying in their lunch plate? Hhmmmm

Hyperborean
Hyperborean

I was merely describing an experience I had. If you want to know why TPTB sent so much wealth to east asia, ask them. I don’t know.

But I agree that during my entire life there has been an unrelenting and undeniable effort by TPTB to transfer wealth and influence from the West to the East (Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, China, Philippines, SE Asia, India in that order).

My theory is that China made some sort of deal with the Bank of International Settlements in order to gain entry into the World Trade Organization but they have since reneged on those promises (as all chinks do – they are chronic liars and outright thieves). Trump was conscripted and MAGA constructed to deal with these broken promises, as the MAGA focus is on China and there is nothing mentioned ever about the financial control structure of the BIS / Central Bank nexus. Again, a theory.

Mygirl....Maybe

Oh please, learn to think like a capitalist. In the US there are regulations out the ass, unions, OSHA and taxes and environmental concerns that cost boat loads of money to comply with. China destroyed it’s environment, used slave labor and was pretty wide open as far as manufacturing was concerned. It was much cheaper to go to China than to manufacture in the US.

Mygirl....Maybe

So, what should those individual insouciant citizens have done? Ever stood in front of a steam roller?

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson

The big shots of course have two, three, four kids. Some pigs are just more equal.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer

They publish all kinds of things.

Zactly how did they determine that poast was the one that broak the twatterverse?

oldtimer505
oldtimer505

If this is truly a weoponized virus then all the folks that are running this show are already vaccinated. The second thing is there will be no way to stop it from burning through the population. Our only defense will be what ever natural resistance we may have to the virus.

Hitler, stalin, mao, and God knows what other psychopaths would be proud to have these folks on his team if this is truly man made from jump street. This thing is beginning to walk like a duck, look like a duck, sound like a duck and fart like a duck. So maybe it is a duck. Who knows and in the end what can you do about it.

Now I am going back to work on something more productive than this because there is nothing I can do about this crap.

credit
credit

here’s my crazy theory. the chinese stole the virus (as reported) and re-engineered it for contagion and severity effects. virulence, asymptomatic infectiousness are the trail to follow for proof, as well as these insertions of HIV dna. next they devoloped a vaccine and stockpiled HIV retrovirus drugs for their own population. they have already announced a vaccine to “test” and about a week ago i read that they were treating patients wirh AIDs meds. they then released onto their own people, one month before the heavy travel season, infecting their targets abroad. they contaminated their own people first first to avoid motive blame for bioweapon warfare. their consciensceless leadership would also have no problem sacrificing some of their own to obliterate their enemy. Sun-Tzuish.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I think this was the plot in the original PC game Deus Ex

4th Turner

This was my comment on the Brandon Smith article of a few days ago:

“Global pandemic, whether a natural event or deliberately engineered, actually serves the purposes of the globalist establishment in a number of ways. First and foremost, it is a superb distraction.”

So, admittedly something like what we’re experiencing with the coronavirus “serves the purposes of the globalist establishment” –let’s dig into the particulars of which arm of said globalists and for what greater purpose:

The real reason for the coronavirus

The Chinese Communist Party has no solution for HK protestors that have occurred daily for the past eight months. The usual Marxist means of dealing with dissidents – squashing them with tanks, wasn’t an option with the eyes of the world on HK and China with a newfound reputation to maintain to the naive West.

Hence, this… virus psy op is being used as a pretense to build “quarantine” centers in HK, manned by the PLA, to deal with this “virus” (aka dissent, which is spreading to the mainland as well).

This is why:

The planes into our countries from China never stopped (they know it’s bullshit but are too scared to call the Communist bullshit artists out on it because that would be bad for business and their “Bankster” overlords have warned them not to).

The Chinese are “confident” that the virus will peak ten days from now (just enough time to establish their detention centres in HK and force the slaves back to work.)”

So this coronavirus will off the HK protests which have spilled into mainland China

niebo
niebo

Missed your comment at the Smith article, but am amazed how “on the same page” some of us are: this virus is a “solution” a lot of problems, in China and the world.

Mygirl....Maybe

That’s the ticket, destroy the economy to punish Hong Kong protesters.

The Chinese are now complaining about the suspension of air travel and border closures. Another city has been quarantined and the Chinese have said they will suspend taxation of face masks, ford and chevy ambulances and disinfectants which come from the USA. The Chinese cannot afford to have this virus outbreak last too long. No mention of how or where the quarantined millions are getting food.
If one would ask who benefits via the virus in China? Try Washington.

“China’s anger towards the world for closing borders, trade, and flights as a “devil virus” persists, is likely driven by the fact that its economy could implode if the shutdown is prolonged.”

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)

I wondered if they would resort to supply drops like the Berlin airlift. In any case, it isn’t something that can be done for too long and certainly not for several cities at once. They will be fighting a war on such a grand scale that we can not expect the world to remain the same much longer.

Those who think this is a Chinese problem are kidding themselves. We have lost the slave labor that lets us enjoy cheap goods. China is the reason we have cell phones and mid level brand shoes, clothing, tools and hardware. Cheap good let us pretend we are middle class. In fact, the rich are so far ahead that I can say the middle class is a block or two ahead of the poor while the rich are 50 miles ahead of us.

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)

We are going to hear the inflated clowns on tv explaining how the USA cannot sink .

niebo
niebo

Try Washington.

Xactly. But who benefits from a worldwide contagion?

Try NWO

Glock-N-Load

Credit,

Now THAT would be so.e crazy shit right there. If true, this event would rank right up there with dinosaurs extinction.

niebo
niebo

Also addresses the food issue in China, that, due to swine flu and solar minimum weather chaos, THEY cannot feed their own people.

M G
M G

China has a rather new population issue, I’m betting.

Since the “one child” was preferred to be male and many female babies were aborted or abandoned so that sterilization would not be forced, China now has a population skewed 70% male with a shortage of women.

Now, China has a Two Child Policy.

With this catastrophic contagion, they may need to get rid of the Family Planning Council altogether.

niebo
niebo

This MAY be some deep “woo-woo”, but . . . you have heard that men tend to be more susceptible to this, right?

“We observed a greater number of men than women in the 99 cases of 2019-nCoV infection. MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV have also been found to infect more males than females.”

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30211-7/fulltext

The subjects’ average age was 55, BUT if the trend continues throughout the population(s) . . . how might that benefit a “skewed male” society?

old white guy
old white guy

Too many numbers and too much biology for the average person. Is it or is not a biologically engineered weapon?

credit
credit

it is quacking like a duck…

oldtimer505
oldtimer505

Amen, We may never know!

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)

Oldie, the numbers and biology are offered so that you may draw your own conclusion. The rapidly mutating virus appears to have elements found in the aids virus. Big Red exposed this story last week – days before we heard anything similar in the media. She said the virus had been bio engineered to carry an aids payload. I joked that it would require a multiple reentry penile vehicle but apparently that is not the case. Today, the aids virus does not need sexual contact, it can be transmitted just like the common cold.

Mygirl....Maybe

Love ya little brother but….AIDs is spread via body fluids and not aerosolized (air) transmission. The novel corona virus seems to be man-made rather than naturally occurring in nature.
HOW HIV SPREADS
HIV is found in blood, semen (cum), pre-seminal fluid (pre-cum), vaginal fluid, rectal fluid, and breast milk. HIV spreads when one of these fluids from a person who has HIV enters the body of a person who does not. Some of the ways this can happen are through:

Anal, oral, or vaginal sex
Needles, syringes, or other injection equipment
Pregnancy, childbirth, or breastfeeding
Small amounts of blood spread during
deep kissing or oral sex—extremely rare

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)

Let me say this real slow – the novel corona virus, as you noted, is an aids carrier. It does not require all those vehicles you listed.

wtf is deep kissing, uvula tickling?

Mygirl....Maybe

No, the virus doesn’t carry AIDs and transmit AIDs, the HIV virus was possibly used to splice with the other viral components. Now there’s a question as to the validity of the HIV findings but from the original article:

“Now, a respected epidemiologist who recently caught flack for claiming in a twitter threat that the virus appeared to be much more contagious than initially believed is pointing out irregularities in the virus’s genome that suggests it might have been genetically engineered for the purposes of a weapon, and not just any weapon but the deadliest one of all.

In “Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag”, Indian researchers are baffled by segments of the virus’s RNA that have no relation to other coronaviruses like SARS, and instead appear to be closer to HIV. The virus even responds to treatment by HIV medications.”

However, If the novel cornona virus does indeed spread AIDS then anyone who gets it is FUBAR!

As to deep kissing, well, shoving one’s tongue down another’s throat would be a possibility and if said kissing and oral sex leads to bleeding, whooo, you be with the WRONG person.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon

Mygirl....Maybe

Slow but this doctor explains the HIV splice in the corona virus….the HIV helps with making infection easier and messes up white blood cells, makes the virus more latent thus remaining in the body longer and compromising the immune system. The HIV would also down-regulate the t-cells so, the immune system is being seriously compromised.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgR18GtO_1Y

credit
credit

body fluids become aerosolized transmissions sometimes. diahrrea is common in coronaviruses and 2020 nCoV has now been detected in patient feces. a SARS patient in 2003 was believed to have infected up to 200 people from his aerosolized plume of diahrrea vapors.

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)

aerosolized plume of diahrrea vapors

Silent but deadly

M G
M G

Talk about a stink bomb!

Pequiste
Pequiste

Fascinating top shelf science but the question I have is does Lysol (TM) work against it or will there be no visits to Walmart plus zero Chinese take out for the foreseeable future?

credit
credit

they’ve probably rigged the virus to resist disinfection. don’t forget Lysol only kills 99% of germs.
(sarc if it’s not obvious}

Mygirl....Maybe

Here is a pdf for how to disinfect for corona virus…
http://virox.com/files_docs/content/pdf/msds/EnvelopeVirusProtocolCanada.pdf

Pequiste
Pequiste

Informations essentiel ici / most useful info. Merci beaucoup / thank you.

Mygirl....Maybe

Soap, water, bleach, chlorhexidine, hydrogen peroxide (7%) and any other anti-viral disinfectants. You must wash hard surfaces and then disinfect, dirt will inhibit disinfection. Use disposable rags or paper towels or the disinfecting wipes.

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf

Nothing that hydrogen peroxide or bleach cant fix.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2

Or Colloidal Silver, or massive amounts of garlic.

mark
mark

Shit…this is how I’m starting to feel! (That’s me with the glue).

Bob P
Bob P

Impossible for us non-experts to understand how serious this is. Ron Paul (a doctor), Gerald Celente, and others claim it’s all blown out of proportion. “A 2% death rate, mostly seniors. Not much worse than the common flu. So what?” But Martenson, a pathologist, and other experts in the field seem to be almost in a panic. “Extremely high Ro implies hundreds of millions of infections. Imagine if it mutates to get more deadly. We’re in deep trouble.” Then there’s the possibility this was engineered, which may imply it’s designed to get a lot worse. And the Chinese are likely hiding its true extent; why panic and shut off all travel and build huge new hospitals, if there’s nothing to worry about? Very frustrating to have no idea how seriously to take this.

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)

“Impossible for us non-experts to understand how serious this is.”

It’s serious, asshole. People are dying. No need for your cavalier attitude.

EC – But Herbie said…
Old Pangloss-Herbie’s dead.

Bob P
Bob P

Your attempts to piss people off are pathetic.

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)

Yes, you did quite well on FF. My hat’s off to you, sir.

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)

Bob, mind if I call you Bob?, I owe you an apology but I won’t apologize since that is not the TBP way. Instead, I will share a bit of advice – you can be a hero one day and the very next day you can become a zero. Don’t sweat it. People who downvote you are probably hitting you with low voltage. If they seriously did not like your comment, they would hit you with something vicious and call you and asshole and stuff. But they would never call you late for dinner or refuse to cross the street to piss on you if you were on fire. Capisce?

niebo
niebo

My issue about this virus is how quiet the MSM has actually been – remember Zika? How many people actually caught it BUT how much did you hear about it? Bird Flu before that? “Deadly” measles?

But two thins the MSM has been relatively quiet about: the awful harvest(s) of 2019, of corn, potatoes, and beans in the US (and corn elsewhere, including China, thanks to the army worm) and this virus.

When there are no n-95 masks within a hundred miles of NYC, we got a problem. But the widespread, er, spread of this virus is not a problem . . . IF it is actually a solution.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7944533/Student-trapped-Wuhan-doesnt-know-shell-starve-death-die-virus-first.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490

Mygirl....Maybe

New video showing bodies in ambulance and now statements about how bodies were carried directly to the crematorium from the hospital which means that the death toll could be very understated….

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/corpses-taken-directly-crematorium-new-accounts-wuhans-fifth-hospital-detail

Iska Waran
Iska Waran

While worry is not a plan, I am finding it hard to carry on with normal life. This is terrifying.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut

“Scary”… but relax, it’s just another ridiculous “conspiracy.”

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)

In addition to your excellent sense of humor, you are also a very caring person and one of my favorite people here. I agree with you Iska, I have communicated to my kids – what would you do if you had one month to live? Do that.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran

I’m torn between telling them the most horrifying possibility and not telling them anything yet. They’re not totally unaware, but my initially bringing it up was causing panic, so I’ve decided to dial it back for now. I’m also making arrangements to hunker down, and also to be able to bug out to a remote area. For the next couple of days I’m trying to limit my worrying and doom prep to 10% of my time and use the rest for a combination of prayer and continuing on as though nothing were any different. I can’t do anything helpful if I go insane.

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)

Speculating this is a race-specific virus is like imagining back then that aids was a gay-specific virus. One positive action Trumpy took was to deny entry to people who have been in infected areas and quarantining citizens coming from those areas. This might help in managing the spread of the virus.

niebo
niebo

a combination of prayer and continuing on as though nothing were any different

Good word. We may control how we react, but over certain “acts” we have no control whatsoever.

Mygirl....Maybe

Worry is counterproductive. Create a plan, gather supplies and prepare rather than worry. It may never happen, or the disease won’t be as virulent with time….The Chinese are waaay over populated, Wuhan has the population density of London. Educate yourself and then you don’t have to worry so much….

The key is self-isolation if necessary, being able to live without needing supplies or water for one to two months. Can you do that? You need three gallons of water a day per person. Pets? Factor in for them too. Masks are for being around in public.

This is a good site with excellent prepping for pandemic information.

Prepare Now to Survive a Pandemic

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recent study shows worriers live longer…

Mygirl....Maybe

No, it only seems like they live longer….

StackingStock
StackingStock

Start prepping for an extended period of one or two months, now’s that time while most people aren’t even thinking about it. I’ve been topping off the preps after work this past week. Make a small list and knock it out each day. You’ll start to feel a little better each day.

nancypelosisvodkabottle
nancypelosisvodkabottle

A friend of mine manages an auto parts store in a strip mall also containing an all u can eat Chinese place. He says its been dead for 2 weeks, usually packed every lunch and dinner. This is a good thing as you really shouldn’t eat that crap delivered in trucks from the Elizabeth NJ docks. I wonder how all the nail salons are coping?
The fear alone seems to be working to hurt the local economy somewhat in these parts. I wonder how they are doing in Ft Lee and Palisades Park? Massive Asian populations there.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson

Chinese restaurants have been closing faster than other categories for some time now. Most are filthy shit holes where no one should go. A group of second and third generation Chinese-Americans released a statement in the past year saying there is no such thing as a clean Chinese restaurant. Our local place got in trouble after the HVAC guys went up on the roof and discovered meat up on the roof which they could not readily identify being “cured” with birds and bugs having free access to it.

Anonymous
Anonymous

China was using HIV drugs on this early in the outbreak based on reports i’ve read. So they knew early on, which makes it pretty aparent someones bioweapon is loose.

Captain trips like a motherfucker.

Now you can worry.
Any cases in the philly area yet?
I have craptacular 8 filmfest there next weekend. People flying in from cali and michigan. Not sure how i feel about that.

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)

We’re not infected, numbnuts. They took the evacuees to a base near here. The beer bitch asked why they didn’t take them to Nebraska. I said, they don’t have medical universities in Nebraska. She insisted that they do. I guess they wanted to spare Nebraskans being ostracized.

M G
M G

I get you.

Unless you meant this…

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson

Nebraska is too white. The Newsies condemned Trump’s Corona Virus study group because there were too many white people on it. Minorities should refuse to take any cure they come up with. Absolutely. Creighton University out in Nebraska is Catholic besides. Definitely refuse the cure. Tell ALL your compadres.

Anonymous
Anonymous

How convenient.
Worldwide economic collapse with no one to blame except some hapless Chinese civil servant. Worldwide Martial Law under the guise of medical lockdown with no one to blame except some hapless Chinese civil servant.
Two billion useless idiots and useless eaters die in the ensuing chaos with no one to blame except some hapless Chinese civil servant.
What could go wrong? More deaths? No problem.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Why would the Chinese need to steal a virus from Canada if they have a gene splicing/virus creating lab in Wuhan?

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they just put their lab up a coupla years ago, and stealing’s cheaper. these chinese nationals are instilled in corporations all over the world stealing shit for the motherland.

Giovanni
Giovanni

Doom Porn. At its best. It is pure speculation by ZH as to whether the Chinese researcher had a role in the current Coronovirus epidemy. To publish his email address and ask the ZH followers to harass him is beyond disgusting. When I read it on ZH I was without words. Twitter had a valid reason to suspend their acccount. For once.
(And no: Other than may assholes who complain about Twitter I have no account with these bastards)

Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Last of the BOHICANS (EC)
Anonymous
Anonymous

Ummm… the simplest explanation of why the rate outside of China exceeds that inside China is because Chinese authorities are under-reporting. Which is a pretty common practice for authoritarian governments dealing with situations that could make them look bad.

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