CORONAVIRUS PERSPECTIVE FROM INSIDE CHINA

From Austrian Peter via MG

I have a direct reader contact in China – he keeps me informed and is well connected. This is what he wrote on 11 Feb 2020 – straight from the horses mouth, so to speak, word for word – forgive broken English – he does very well and is to remain anonymous for obvious reasons – for TBPers only:

“Dear Peter,

I should write the email earlier if only was not exhausted observing and thinking on the coronavirus epidemic over past weeks. I decide to rest and turn to more urgent and meaningful issues in my life afterwards. You have enough information and comments on the worldwide impact epidemic, from many main stream and other media,social media and blogs, from various aspects. I’ll try to provide something hardly found on internet in English.

I’m healthy and still living in rural northern china, far from Hubei Province, where the nightmare come true, most of elites from Chinese medical system and military department & the regime’s political authority have been put into prevent more deaths.

Bioweapons are being researched for long in great powers and would be applied in tragic wars years later, with chemical weapons and miniature nuclear weapons. But I’ve never expected it so soon and near. News about unknown pneumonia in Wuhan first appeared on Chinese social media and caught my attention on the last days of 2019.

Then, Japanese and some English media. I’ve discussed it with my elder Japanese friend about the danger and possibility of the virus as a bioweapon, including the night people are celebrating the new year. The surmise was limited into private conversations, too “conspiracy theory”, but too many factors would raise our doubt. The SARS-like characteristic, the existence of P-4 laboratory,, our knowledge of the CCP regime and the scientists, the ominous feeling he felt in visit across hubei province on November.

And the live food market, the first important site mentioned in the news, located only hundreds of meters from Hankou railway station, an important transport hub, and the spring festival travel rush is coming.

We believed it was a leak of artificial virus from P-4 laboratory. My logic was they could solve it very soon and silently without disastrous consequences. I phoned and reminded my friends in Wuhan not to go wandering during the festival. Then I saw the news that eight(doctors) were warned for spreading rumours about the epidemic on wechat, on the CCTV. As is known to people all over the world, one of the eight has died from the deadly virus. The experts said don’t worry, the virus doesn’t spread among people.

That’s why I worry most. To survive in the truman world full of lies from birth, you have to think twice about the rumors and the authorities told. Few of words and figures from CCP regime can be trusted. I cancelled the train ticket back home from Guangzhou stopping at wuhan immediately (routine 1), and quitted the routine 2 which also passes through hubei province. The last option is going to Hangzhou where my sister works and driving back home with her. Routine3 .

The decision proves to save me much trouble indeed, many people get infected due to changing trains or planes in wuhan for only one hour.
But before Jan. 20th I still assume the influence can be limited into hubei province like most Chinese, since few further information reported. I saw none wearing face masks in serval cities and didn’t buy masks as well. I was busy with other things and mentioned nothing in emails with you.

Until the truth can’t be hidden any more and people died like leaves in autumn. The social war, total civil war begun formally, and chaos , cries, strict control come hand by hand.

On Jan. 22th, I’ve get the information that at least 100 thousands were believed to be infected merely in Wuhan, from doctors in Shanghai and Wuhan. Who can be silly to believe the official figure when words and photos spring continually about people dying at home without diagnosis from Wuhan? The figures are obedient to the political guide, just like surveillance cameras and hard drives.

Everyone gets what he deserves. I wasted much time and emotion , information overloaded. The epidemic won’t last long, maybe end before June, when the savoir of science cult members, a magic medicine comes, regardless of the fact that most of cured cases recovered the health due to traditional medicine Chinese, which is less scientific than transgenic foods, artificial meat and the vanguard of scientific socialism, CCP.

This is bioweapon, whether related, stolen, help with Canadian or American. You can have enough proofs in Chinese as many as in English. That’s an open secret an another important factor leading to quarrels and wars between Leviathans.

I’m disgusted by the performance of the sympathy justice human right or whatever, whether from herds complaining about tragic fates and playing as innocent in the religious drama, or politicians declaring defending for our democracy, hegemony, values and oil. Thank god, the US refuses to see the fact that they have been left behind by the Japanese in the energy revolution.

The epidemic just makes the fragmented authoritarianism clear for all.

Officials from various cities rob each other of medical supplies and sell for money, which is more factual than the bullshit warning and punishment from above,(order an official to resign and take another position in another city weeks later). The Chinese red cross in Hubei enforces every penny and donation into their own warehouses. They attribute the donation to the officials and any constitutions bribe them instead of people suffering. Doctors fighting deaths waiting hours begging them and get nothing, that’s the revenge for the doctors’ posting truth online. Eventually, helicopters are adopted to ship the supplies directly to the hospitals.”

You must make up your own minds, but for me the article here is not kosher. My contact has no axe to grind – no adverts to beg – no money to make.

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MagNag

That was a pretty clever way to approach it. I suppose that is why I think you are worth sending a donation.

I hope others do as well…

No blog on the plane has a smarter person on the throttle or a better Man With No Name protecting people as best as one can in the times we find ourselves facing.

Thanks again, Admin.

Steve C.

Never believe anything any government says until it’s been officially denied…

Pequiste
Pequiste

Maxim of the decade.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious

“Nothing is confirmed until it is officially denied.” – Otto von Bismarck

(EC)
(EC)

Your request is denied but please reapply for final denial. – Boss Pangloss

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious

If the Chinese come to the conclusion that the US did this, then the shit is really going to hit the fan when the Chinese figure the time is right. It doesn’t matter if the US did it or not, just what the Chinese think happened is what matters.

If they decide it was their own lab, then Chinese heads will roll and we’ll know about it. If there’s no retribution in China, then WW III has quietly started.

The people working in these bio weapons labs should be rounded up and hung from the nearest tree in every country on the planet.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer

Never going to happen…even in a one-world government under the total control of the globalist there would be weapons of mass destruction to put down rebellions and control various factions in the globalist elite…..If everybody had sticks and you had a wrist rocket with lots of ball bearing ammo……you would rule.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious

I have no clue what you’re trying to say.

(EC)
(EC)

That the head-cracking videos we see are a preemptive response to any revolt.

Austrian Peter

A double YES, SAO. This detailed article contains facts and I share your opinion on these ‘people’:

“One portion of the Plum Island facility was designed exclusively to develop and test lethal animal pathogens that could destroy an enemy nation’s food supply – as the US attempted to do in North Korea. Deadly strains of foot-and-mouth disease were one result of this research, which the Americans later shared with their fellow psychopaths at Porton Down in the UK – who put it to good use. An additional portion was the development, testing and production of bombs containing what was called a “vegetable killer acid”, and which could destroy cereals, grains, and most cultivated vegetable crops. I have a strong suspicion that many of the recent bird flu and swine flu epidemics originated from pathogens created at Plum Island.” [I remember ‘foot & mouth’ disease in UK]

And:
“And the US military has tried to weaponise venereal diseases, leading to travesties like the Guatemala Syphilis project, where they infected thousands then left them to die. The official narrative, while admitting the criminality, stubbornly adheres to the tale of a charitable purpose of testing medications – for thousands who were specifically denied the medicines that would have saved their lives.
The US military appears desperate not only to find biological ways to kill nations of people, but is equally interested in methods of destroying their food supply. Accordingly, it also confessed to another several dozen (at least) occasions where devastating crop and plant disease agents had been released, in experiments to test methods of destroying the entire food plant life of an enemy nation. In 2012, Japanese media revealed that the United States government had tested specific, DNA-engineered crop-killing bioweapons in Okinawa and Taiwan during the 1960s and early 1970s, and that the US military tested some of these within the continental US as well. They were also applied in Vietnam. The purpose of Agent Orange was never as a defoliant as claimed, but developed instead to destroy Vietnam’s entire rice crops and to sufficiently contaminate the soil to prevent re-growth.”

These people are definitely psychopaths and their enablers are even worse – scientists and medical people who should know better and refuse to work for them:

Biological Weapons: A Useful and Timely Factual Overview

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious

The US military tested some bio weapon in the NY subway system while I lived in NY and used the subway to get to work. They also tested some bio agent on San Francisco and let people get sick.

The US military is THE most evil thing on the planet. The entire thing need to be shut down, but that won’t happen.

I believe they have gamed the future and they realize that their influence is diminishing and there’s no likelihood of a reversal, so they are going to ‘use it before you lose it’ and go for broke. The figureheads in the gov’t don’t count. The military and the spook agencies ARE the ‘Deep State’ and they are going to do whatever it is they feel is in THEIR best interests. Fuck everybody else.

Austrian Peter

I agree SAO, these bastards should not be allowed to live, but they will and there is nothing us little people can do about it. History is full of equal examples from the very roots of our civilisation. In the end the military are in control and I am sure you are right when you say they have gamed the future because they are the future.

Roger G Lewis

https://notthegrubstreetjournal.com/

Hi Peter,
All of my comments are now not being published on Surplus Energy Economics blog.
I notice you have also been quiet?
Your Comment is awaiting Moderation.#164. A bolt from the grey Posted on February 28, 2020 WHY “BUSINESS AS USUAL” WILL NOT BE RESTORED

Corona Virus – Africa update and peek into the near future

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer

A good tarring and feathering might do the trick.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious

As long as the tar is super hot and will ultimately kill the bastards, I agree.

MagNag

I think we might use a variety of methods to modify behavior. I’m not sure what a Strappado is, but I want one now.

Medieval methods.
http://www.medieval-life-and-times.info/medieval-torture-and-punishment/instruments-of-torture.htm

Method, Instrument or Device
The instruments or devices used in Medieval torture included some of the following terrible tools or machines:

Boot or Spanish boot
Branding Irons
Judas Cradle
Strappado
Brodequin
Branding Irons
The Collar
The Rack
Thumbscrews
The Wheel
Foot press
Foot screw
Heretic’s fork
Water Torture
Brank
The Collar
Drunkards Cloak
The Maiden
Pillory
The Scavenger’s daughter
Scold’s bridle
Stocks
Ducking stools

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Maggie.
Your stealth humor strikes again.

Mygirl...maybe

Strappado was a technique/device where the victims arms were tied behind his back and he was lifted high and then dropped, effectively dislocating the shoulders.

Anonymous
Anonymous

kind of like bunji jumping with your hands tied behind your back then?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

MYgirl.
Oh. I thought it was maggies humor about a strap-on.

M G
M G

Aaaaargh! I was thinking I needed a whooping strappado, whatever that might have been.

Now, you’ve gone and rurnt it. Mygirl did too.

John Galt
John Galt

I made a very long post a few times regarding bio as the perfect weapon to bring martial law and gun control to the usa….think that through. You are stuck in quarantine, they come in search your home, or refuse to provide meds or food until they search for guns. Hand them in or they weld you in your home to starve….or simply fema camp you.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious

I wouldn’t put it past these bastards to pull that on the US population. However, the blowback would be extreme.

People would stop cooperating. They would refuse to comply with directives, slow down at work, in general start putting sand in the gov’t gears.

The response would be swift and horrific, but that starts a spiral to the death of the Fed Gov.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

SOA.
No it wouldn’t. Surround the drug stores Gas stations and food stores and demand a home inspection for food. Shoot any car on the road without a temporary travel permit. In five days they will comply. Any holdouts in the country will then be dealt with. Have you ever seen footage of a fuel air bomb.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran

If the grid goes down, I’m getting the fuck out of Dodge within two hours, under cover of darkness. I think I can hole up until Thanksgiving at least.

Llpoh
Llpoh

Wha T if the grid goes down at sunup? Betcha didn’t think of that, right?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

John.
Me too, more than a few times and I’m sticking with it. Aside from what it is or what it’s doing I expect TPTB to use it for an excuse for Medical Martial law. Military is presently preparing for it as of executive orders last week and the deployment of testing centers by the CDC in the 5 major travel hubs and announced they plan to have national surveilance soon.
Get control before the collapse, it’s less messy. Donald “Take the guns first” Trump will be delighted to help.

SeeBee
SeeBee
DeaconBenjamin
DeaconBenjamin

refuse to provide meds or food until they search for guns. Hand them in or they weld you in your home to starve

Good luck with that around here. Every household has guns, and knows how to use them from pre-teen age. And a garden. And local fauna to harvest (if the authorities are lawless, then don’t expect hunting laws to be observed. Let alone harvesting the ubiquitous feral hogs.)

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Deacon.
I wish it were so. We spent 8 years in Nam learning how to flush out resisters. Including but not limited to defoliants, contaminating soil, fuel air bombs, setting one village against another, vaporizing entire cities. Ever see Napalm in real life? Designer germs for Plant, animal, and man in aresol form delivered by drone. TPTB don’t care what it takes and they have our replacements ready and waiting.

MagNag

In survival school, when in prison phase, a song called “Napalm Sticks to Kids” and a few other horrible songs involving crying babies and stomping boots, boots, boots played in the background all the time. We were “in” for a couple days, I guess. No light and no time pointers makes for a real discombobulated feeling about time.

If it weren’t for all the voices in my head, it would have driven me bonkers.

Doug
Doug

Kosher was the clue.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I agree. They should hang.

MagNag

I so very much appreciate this insight. My cousin is in India (Pondicherry) and we are hoping to hear from her soon.

TampaRed

“Thank god, the US refuses to see the fact that they have been left behind by the Japanese in the energy revolution.”

what does this mean?

Anonymous
Anonymous

yeah what did that mean..

Austrian Peter

See above, Tampa Red

Mygirl...maybe

Interesting that you mention Japan, seems their GDP is woefully lacking. Seems there are several black swans lurking on the horizon these days.

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/japan-unexpectedly-reports-terrible-gdp-it-slides-recession

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic

I think he means a virus for Japan would be next if the U.S. realized they’re outpaced.

Austrian Peter

You could be right there VV – I speculated above in reply to Tampa Red.

Austrian Peter

I am not sure, Tampa Red, thank you for asking. He could be referring to their advanced nuclear facilities born out of the Fukushima experiments after the tsunami crash. He has extensive contacts in Japan.

I visited Belarus in 1994 and we entered the exclusion zone (after Chernobyl ) – they were carrying out experiments on the effect of radiation on the human body. The doctors there tested us for radiation accumulation and found that we were more radioactive than they were! They explained: because we live within 30 miles, downwind, of a nuclear power plant (Hinkley Point), the reactors all leak! Very reassuring!

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr

Blaming the US Military for all the Psycho Operations is like blaming Whites for all the Racism. The Psychos are members of a Cabal of people that get Black Budget funds and their orders from ZOG Oligarchs. They are like the MK Ultra Program, the DUMBs, Chem-spraying, sterilizing vaccines and GMOs, the UFO and Breakaway Civilization Programs, ZOG spies and operatives, etc. They are no different than the worst Nazis. And the scientist, government workers, and journalist who see things that are wrong and say nothing are no better than the Germans in WW2 who “saw nothing” and were just doing their jobs.

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve

Since we are going to venture into conspiracy theory…

I do believe this is a bioweapon that was meant to show up in the USA rather than China. During the trade negotiations when China was cutting back on Ag imports from the USA, swine flu showed up and was decimating their pork supplies. I always thought that was just too coincidental.

Swine Flu link 1
Swine Flu link 2

DeaconBenjamin
DeaconBenjamin

Makes it all the more curious that the Chinese own Smithfield. There is no shortage of American pork that they already own for them to ship.

Austrian Peter

One source said that because pensions are in so much deficit, they need to knock off the oldies like me – useless eaters!

MagNag

Peter, I watched the Amazon Prime movie/documentary One Child China, which is worth viewing even if you aren’t a Prime member and have to pay 4 bucks to see it!

Because they enforced one child Policy for 35 years and propagandized the idea that “good” people only want one child, they now have a dwindling population. But, not only that… since they limited reproduction to one child per couple and most couples prefer male children to “carry on the family line” the ration of male/female in that segment of the population born from 1980 until 2015?

70/30

China does not have a very good situation for an aging population. Women usually tend to aging populations.

But, the good news is that they now are propagandizing Two Child Policy.

Austrian Peter

But, But MagNag, thanks for this – I thought we were trying to reduce the populations, so China has done a good job, No? And after all, there are a lot of them aren’t there? Maybe I have a distorted view of people in general.

Thing is were are entering an era of no-growth, even negative growth, due to EROEI on energy supply. Our present economic model is very high maintenance. Here’s how my friend Dr Tim Morgan explains it (https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/

“Just to restate my position on this, the economy is an energy system, in which nothing with any economic utility at all can be produced without energy. [And it costs to extract and process the energy before a surplus can be obtained. We now have not enough surplus energy to service our economies – Tim does all the calculations in his model, SEEDs – see his website]

Money has no intrinsic worth, but commands value only as ‘claim’ on the products of the real economy. Its only function is as a medium of exchange.

Fulfilling this function requires that two preconditions are met:
1. There is something for which money can be exchanged
2. The kind of money in question is accepted by all parties as a medium of exchange

Money (in any form) given to someone adrift in a lifeboat has no value because it fails the first test. Somebody arriving from Mars with pockets full of Martian Zogs would find his money useless, because it fails the second test.

Therefore, there is no monetary solution to the deterioration in prosperity caused by a fall in the supply of surplus energy.

The authorities do not understand (or, at any rate, admit) this. They are using monetary manipulation to prop up inflated asset prices. The only reason why they haven’t been called on this is that we cannot monetise asset ownership, i.e. sell all stocks, bonds and properties and turn them into cash.

In the future, the use of money manipulation might be extended into, for example:
A. Financing government spending as the revenue base erodes
B. Subsidising fossil fuel production
C. Subsidising investment in renewables
D. Helping the victims of falling prosperity

ANY of these uses would be inflationary, quite possibly to the point at which the credibility of fiat currencies is destroyed. This means that the only way to achieve objectives A-D without destroying the currency has to involve redistribution.

Hope this helps, my book explains it all, as does Tim’s book:

The Financial Jigsaw – Issue No. 91

Iska Waran
Iska Waran

Tonight I’ve been listening to Bruce Cockburn’s 1979 release “Dancing in the Dragon’s Jaw”. Some of you – especially the Canucks – will know its Christian perspective. I may be listening to it a lot in the coming months.

Austrian Peter

Good idea Iska Waran, stay with it!

22winmag - TBP's top-secret Crypto-Jew

I was at the gas station today and overheard someone saying Chinese people need to stop eating bats.

MagNag

7 Horrific Chinese Foods That Will Give You Nightmares
WARNING: NOT FOR THOSE WITH WEAK STOMACHS. I’M NOT KIDDING. YOU CANNOT UNSEE THIS STUFF. THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING.

I did NOT bring the images along…

https://medium.com/@spoonhunt/7-horrific-chinese-foods-that-will-give-you-nightmares-997527775d8e

1. Live Baby Mice

Let’s just dive right into it. Some people in Guangdong eat live baby mice, and it is terrifying. I even watched a video to confirm it, just for you guys. I came across a video of a guy dipping the pink, squirming baby mice into a sauce, for flavor presumably, and eating them.

2. Penis…all kinds

So maybe penis doesn’t initially seem so horrifying. But the terrible part comes from the amount of different kinds of penises there are to eat. So many poor, emasculated animals’ members can be placed right on your plate, ripe for the picking. Ew, I can’t believe I just said that. Let’s list some of them shall we? Donkey, deer, sheep, ox, seal, yak, snake, horse, dog, bull, tiger. The list continues. Chinese people believe consuming the genitals of another animal increase your own virility.

3. Rooster Testicles

Chinese people apparently really hate to waste any edible part their prey. Rooster testicles are larger than you think, but when you realize that their job is to cater sexually to an entire roost of hens, it makes way more sense. They are so large that they are located up in the abdomen and are expertly, surgically removed from live roosters. What’s worse is that you don’t even get sauce or seasoning to hide the taste of chicken balls from your mouth; Chinese people eat them plain. (At least I pressured canned the bunny balls.)

4. Unhatched Duck or Chicken Embryos

Most of us have eaten eggs before. They’re no big deal because they are unfertilized eggs that chickens lay every day for our own nutrition. There’s no baby chicken growing inside so we are okay eating it. In China, they don’t let those pesky, unwanted fertilized chicken and duck eggs go to waste. It’s called 毛蛋 (mao dan). Depending on how far along the embryo was before it was plopped on your plate, the unhatched fowl can come with feathers and a beak. Just imagine cracking open your morning egg, expecting a nice yolk to spill out, when instead an unborn bird dangles from the shell. And then you eat it.

5. Snake Gallbladder

Traditional Chinese medicine believes that the snake gallbladder can be consumed to improve poor eyesight and keep people healthy. Some Chinese people, mostly in the countrysides, will eat raw snake gallbladder and wash it down with alcohol as a disinfectant. Chinese medicine experts stress that this is extremely dangerous as raw snake can contain parasites. The proper way to consume it is to dried out the gallbladder and grind it into a powder. Nevertheless, this is an extreme measure to a problem that can be easily fixed by something called “eyeglasses,” whatever those are.

6. Rabbit Head

Truth be told, rabbit heads aren’t all that uncommon. You’ve probably come across them a few times if you’ve ventured to some very local Chinese restaurants or street vendors in Sichuan. But these furry lovable pets stripped down to their meat and bones and left on a plate for you to pick at is horrific. Just look at the picture above. If you weren’t afraid of rabbits before, you might be a little bit now. And to eat them, you rip off the jaw and eat the tongue, cheeks and chin, then bite the top of the skull to get to the brains. It’s definitely not for furry animal lovers.

7. Pig Face/Head

Pig face is a Chinese food straight out of a horror film like Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Silence of the Lambs. To Chinese people, pig head isn’t just one meal, it’s nine. It’s often served just as a whole pig head, roasted for hours with special herbs and spices. It is then the eater’s job to cut it into the several parts (face, tongue, ear, mouth, nose, etc.) like a evil doctor, all while it stares you in the eyes. Hung up on hooks at the front of the shop, pig heads will give you Lord of the Flies flashbacks.

Honorable Mention:

Bugs — China night markets are full of skewered creepy crawlies just waiting to be picked, fried and eaten. From grasshoppers and silkworms to scorpions, tarantulas and cockroaches, those afraid of bugs should probably avoid touristy street vendors.

Duck tongue — This small, fatty organ of the duck’s mouth has been said to have a intense duck flavor. You may not have been aware ducks had tongues, but you are now.

Hairy Tofu — Most of us know what stinky tofu is, but aren’t aware that it has a hairy cousin that looks like an extremely moldy sponge. It’s perfectly edible and mushy, but you have to get past the fact that it has fur.

Drunken Shrimp — Typically we like to eat cooked food, but these shrimp are literally drunk, making it easier to eat them live. They are soaked in alcohol before serving and just stumble around the plate before you pick them up and plop them in your mouth.

MagNag

This is so gross!

Just imagine cracking open your morning egg, expecting a nice yolk to spill out, when instead an unborn bird dangles from the shell. And then you eat it.

Mygirl...maybe

Back in my misspent youth I had a buddy who dropped acid on a very regular basis. I also had friends who raised chickens and they’d give me eggs and I would share said eggs. I gave Mike some eggs and, while he was tripping, he opened an egg with a fully formed chick inside. He never forgave me…..

Iska Waran
Iska Waran

I think the western fascination with things oriental may have started with the Beatles going to India and meeting with that maharishi dude. People think Traditional Chinese Medicine is intrinsically worthwhile. There could some compounds that have value. Let’s assess that with the scientific method. Otherwise, I’m not taking advice from people who eat donkey dicks.

M G
M G

Especially, Diseased Donkey Dicks.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr

I’d rather eat a cooked donkey putz than drink camel piss for my health like the Koran says to do (Mohammad said so). Takes me back to my days in Turkey: no refrigeration and the butcher hung sheep parts (including the putz) on nails in a board, with flies all over the place…great tasting cheap food, beer and raki (their wines suck though).

Roger g Lewis
Austrian Peter

Hi Roger,
I don’t comment on that many articles on TBP because of time constraints and likewise on Tim’s blog. Always pleased to read your comments though – good to hear from you.

M G
M G

Pete?
Is this a new contract by ur friend?

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