In Sweeping Power Grab, DOJ Seeks Ability To Detain People Indefinitely Without Trial

Via The ZeroHedge

In a sweeping power grab, the Department of Justice has asked Congress for the ability to go directly to chief judges in order to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies.

The move is part of a recent push to expand government powers during the coronavirus pandemic, according to Politico, which has reviewed documents that detail the DOJ’s requests to lawmakers on this and a host of other topics – including state of limitations, asylum, and how court hearings are conducted.

The move has tapped into a broader fear among civil liberties advocates and Donald Trump’s critics — that the president will use a moment of crisis to push for controversial policy changes. Already, he has cited the pandemic as a reason for heightening border restrictions and restricting asylum claims. He has also pushed for further tax cuts as the economy withers, arguing that it would soften the financial blow to Americans. And even without policy changes, Trump has vast emergency powers that he could legally deploy right now to try and slow the coronavirus outbreak. –Politico

Politico notes that the requests are unlikely to make it through the Democratic-controlled House.

As part of the requests, the DOJ proposed that Congress grant the attorney general the ability to ask that any chief judge of any district court to pause court proceedings “whenever the district court is fully or partially closed by virtue of any natural disaster, civil disobedience, or other emergency situation.” Similarly, these top judges would have broad authority to pause court proceedings during emergencies.

Additionally, the requested changes would explicitly say that people with COVID-19 cannot apply for asylum – a request that comes on the heels of a Friday announcement by the Trump administration that it would begin denying entry to all illegal immigrants at the southern border – including those seeking asylum.

According to Politico, the changes would apply to “any statutes or rules of procedure otherwise affecting pre-arrest, post-arrest, pre-trial, trial, and post-trial procedures in criminal and juvenile proceedings and all civil process and proceedings.”

As we have heard from those in the legal profession, however, the courts have already ground to a virtual halt amid the Chinese coronavirus outbreak – as jurors aren’t coming in, and face-to-face depositions aren’t happening right now in many parts of the country.

The proposed changes have raised concerns over the implications for habeas corpus – the right to appear before a judge and seek release.

“Not only would it be a violation of that, but it says ‘affecting pre-arrest,” said Normal L. Reimer, who heads up the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. “So that means you could be arrested and never brought before a judge until they decide that the emergency or the civil disobedience is over. I find it absolutely terrifying. Especially in a time of emergency, we should be very careful about granting new powers to the government.”

Reimer added that the notion of chief judges suspending court rules during an emergency indefinitely is deeply disturbing.

“That is something that should not happen in a democracy,” he said.

The department also asked Congress to pause the statute of limitations for criminal investigations and civil proceedings during national emergencies, “and for one year following the end of the national emergency,” according to the draft legislative text.

Trump recently declared the coronavirus crisis a national emergency.

Another controversial request: The department is looking to change the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure in some cases to expand the use of videoconference hearings, and to let some of those hearings happen without defendants’ consent, according to the draft legislative text.

Video teleconferencing may be used to conduct an appearance under this rule,” read a draft of potential new language for Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 5(f), crossing out the phrase “if the defendant consents.”

Video teleconferencing may be used to arraign a defendant,” read draft text of rule 10(c), again striking out the phrase “if the defendant consents.” –Politico

According to Reimer, forcing people to have hearings over videoconference vs. in-person would threaten civil liberties.

“If it were with the consent of the accused person it would be fine,” he said, adding “But if it’s not with the consent of the accused person, it’s a terrible road to go down. We have a right to public trials. People have a right to be present in court.”

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18 Comments
Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
March 21, 2020 7:10 pm

The simple fact this being brought up paves the way for the event to happen.

The camels nose is under the tent and starting to sniff for what else can be deleted from the Constitution and Bill of rights.

And the Road to Hell is getting warmer, as this Fourth turning continues lurch towards destruction and death for the US…

Unonymous
Unonymous
March 21, 2020 7:40 pm

As I just posted on another thread:

…The more I think about it, the more I realize COVID-19 is a perfect means for global reset – and, it had to happen under a Republican president. Why? Because it is the conservatives who own the guns.

If all this was happening under Hillary, Biden, Sanders, et al, there would be politicians hanging from street lights in DC. But Trump is the great anesthetizer.

For the past couple years I’ve been writing article after article on how everything we’ve been watching has seemed like a reality TV show; a movie in our mind’s eye.

So I ask you … What if Hillary, Trump, Russiagate, Mueller, Ukrainegate, impeachment … all of it… was part of the plan; distractions and cover stories for the build-up to what what is happening now?

It’s perfect. Too perfect, if you ask me. And the timing was impeccable.

So is the virus a real threat? Or is it all another hoax in the minds of hypnotized sheep now cowering in their homes, peering out their windows and looking at their neighbors with suspicion and disdain for not wearing masks and standing six feet apart?

Once again: Does it matter?

(Doug / Uncola) – posting Unonymously to avoid being spammed

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Unonymous
March 21, 2020 8:52 pm

Before and after Trump was elected I said “Who better to declare Martial Law” because the Faux-cons would help him round up the liberals not realizing they were next.
I might have broken the record for downvotes.

Charles Darwin
Charles Darwin
  Unonymous
March 21, 2020 9:17 pm

Had Impeachment been successful there never would have been Covid-19.

The virus is the equivalent of a Grand Slam Homerun in the bottom of the 9th of Game 7 between the Dodgers and the Yankees.

Monday’s Headline: Nadler and Schiff resign to immediately take positions as Chief Judge.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Unonymous
March 21, 2020 10:17 pm

Please, this is from a Politico article who claimed they had documents but never published them for some strange reason. Fact of the matter is….THEY ALREADY HAVE THOSE POWERS and don’t need permission. Thank you NDAA, Thank you Patriot Act, Thank you AAUMF and so on…

Swimologist
Swimologist
  Unonymous
March 21, 2020 11:47 pm

Not sure about the virus. I’ve had a temp of 100 for two days, aches, mild headache, and I’ve been isolating fairly well, but exposed briefly to 20 people at work and 3 grocery trips in ten days. I’m in rust belt state

SeeBee
SeeBee
March 21, 2020 8:17 pm

The come after you….sneeze on the bastards!

ottomatik
ottomatik
March 21, 2020 8:31 pm

Something big is coming.

overthecliff
overthecliff
March 21, 2020 11:31 pm

Trojan Horse Trump. Here we go folks. To bad meeting some of you at Camp Fema won’t be a pleasant experience. Hell maybe they won’t bother with a guy darn near 80.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  overthecliff
March 22, 2020 12:04 am

Cliff
I expect them to donate some of our organs to worth causes.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Fleabaggs
March 22, 2020 3:19 am

The dogs plan on having the feast of their lifetime later this year.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Fleabaggs
March 22, 2020 11:03 am

Hell my organs are pretty old but they could sell them to some guy for a big profit.

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