Powerful wisdom from one of the toughest men who ever lived

Guest Post by Simon Black

One day back in the late 1990s when I was a wide-eyed 20-year-old cadet at West Point, we were told that a distinguished visitor was coming to speak, and to be seated in the auditorium by 1pm sharp.

This was pretty routine; one of the great things about attending West Point was the seemingly endless line of world leaders, athletes, scientists, and even celebrities who would address the Corps of Cadets.

During my time at the academy we heard from people like Colin Powell, Oliver Stone, Bill Clinton, and countless more.

On that particular day, the speaker was Vice Admiral James Stockdale.

Stockdale isn’t a household name, but as I would come to learn, he was one of the most impressive and toughest human beings who ever lived.

He was in the twilight of his life when he came to speak to us, just a few years before his death. But even at his advanced age, he had the presence of a giant.

Stockdale had been a US Navy fighter pilot. His full name was James Bond Stockdale, so his call sign became “007”. Perfect.

Stockdale’s life changed in September 1965 while flying a mission over North Vietnam. He was shot down, captured, and spent the next 7 ½ years as a Prisoner of War in the infamous ‘Hanoi Hilton’.

As a POW, Stockdale was tortured regularly, beaten savagely, and exiled to solitary confinement.

But he never broke.

At one point during his captivity when he found out that he was to be paraded out in public in Vietnam, he beat his own face to a pulp with a wooden stool, and slashed his scalp with a razorblade, so that he couldn’t be used as a propaganda tool.

He also slit his own wrists once, demonstrating to his captors that he would rather give up his own life than capitulate.

Stockdale was eventually awarded the Medal of Honor for his extraordinary leadership and personal sacrifice.

Years later in an interview with author Jim Collins, Stockdale was asked about his captivity in Vietnam—how on earth did he deal with such harsh circumstances and uncertainty?

I never lost faith in the end of the story. I never doubted not only that I would get out, but also that I would prevail in the end and turn the experience into the defining event of my life, which, in retrospect, I would not trade.

When Collins asked, “Who didn’t make it out [of the POW camp],” Stockdale replied,

Oh that’s easy. The optimists. They were the ones who said, ‘we’re going to be out by Christmas.’ And then Christmas would come, and Christmas would go.

And then they’d say, ‘We’re going to be out by Easter.’ And then Easter would come, and Easter would go. And then Thanksgiving. And then it would be Christmas again.

And they died of a broken heart.

“This is a very important lesson,” Stockdale continued. “You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose– with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.

This is the situation that each of us is facing right now.

We want to be optimists. We want to believe that this pandemic is going to magically vanish tomorrow morning and that we’ll all be able to go on with our lives as if nothing has changed.

But that’s not going to happen.

The brutal facts of our reality are that this pandemic continues to spread rapidly, and it has the potential to kill millions of people.

Reducing that projection requires shutting down the entire global economy… resulting in a wide range of catastrophic consequences, including tens of trillions of dollars of prosperity wiped out, countless jobs lost, millions of bankruptcies and defaults, entire governments going broke, and more.

Saving the economy condemns millions to die. But saving millions from dying condemns hundreds of millions to suffer.

These are the facts. And they are brutal.

To make matters even more difficult, we’re also dealing with a tremendous uncertainty.

There’s no telling what’s going to happen next. Or when. We could see martial law. Supply chain disruptions. National defaults. Looting. Bank failures. Even hyperinflation.

EVERY scenario is on the table… even ones that seemed unthinkable just a few weeks ago. Anyone who says, “There’s no way that could happen,” clearly doesn’t grasp what’s happening.

And frankly we haven’t even seen the real problems yet.

Just wait until the healthcare system is totally overwhelmed, the unemployment rate soars, and major companies start declaring bankruptcy.

I mean… there are still millions of people around the world right now (including countless shit-faced university students on spring break) who aren’t taking this pandemic seriously yet.

We’re clearly still in the opening phase of this crisis. So things could become much worse before they improve.

But amid such harsh circumstances and uncertainty, we should also recognize, as Stockdale did, that the world is not coming to an end.

We cannot afford to be misguided, ignorant optimists who irrationally believe that everything will go back to normal tomorrow morning without any consequences.

Everyone needs to confront the most brutal facts of our current reality—both the challenges and opportunities.

But we should never lose faith that we will prevail in the end and may look back on this pandemic as the most formative and defining event of our lives.

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Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 11:45 am

Stockdale was a scumbag murdering people in a foreign land that never harmed the US in any way. He, along with all the people that served in Vietnam should have been prosecuted and hung for their crimes.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 12:27 pm

So you waste your breath railing against reality? The man made choices, paid for those choices and didn’t complain. I was apposed to the war, but I admire this man’s qualities. Sorry Captain obvious, but you’re nothing but an opinion with no cred.

Ivan
Ivan
  Anonymous
March 25, 2020 3:58 pm

Captain Obvious (priceless) is like coming home to that nag Liz Warren nightly.

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  Ivan
March 26, 2020 12:04 am

I took a few weeks off from the blog when the Schaden Freude Obvious sockpuppet was first introduced and briefly featured.

It was that bad.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Anonymous
March 25, 2020 11:00 pm

Admiring a man’s qualities and being allied with a man are two very different things. Herd animals always go to the strong horse, that simple. You have no principles (other than to herd in the strongest herd). Suppose a man like that was on his way to killing you. When he gets to your house, do you say, “You’re my hero!” Cloying lap dogs at the end of their utility.

Donkey
Donkey
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 12:45 pm

Can’t go there SAO. The US had everyone just as convinced “The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming” just as totally as the virus is coming, the virus is coming. It’s the politicians as always.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Donkey
March 25, 2020 12:56 pm

The US is responsible for murder and even genocide in many foreign lands. This is made possible by people that cooperate in their war making agenda for profit.

If people were prosecuted for aiding and abetting an out of control gov’t, then maybe things would change. As it is, the US is gearing up to take on China and probably Russia in the not too distant future, in my opinion.

If people told the gov’t to pound sand, as I did during the Vietnam era, then all this bellicosity would cease. I read yesterday that there’s a push to change the laws to have women register for the draft. This is early warning of their intentions to require lots of cannon fodder for their adventures.

“Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy.” – Henry Kissinger

Check Six
Check Six
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 1:06 pm

(((Henry Kissinger)))

Fixed it for you.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 1:07 pm

Kissinger was a sergeant in the US Army in WW2.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Harrington Richardson
March 25, 2020 1:10 pm

So, should he be granted expert status on his opinion?

Kissinger is a disgusting excuse for a human being. His advice has active participation in murder should have brought him to the gallows.

chuck
chuck
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 2:45 pm

And you’re a parasitic POS who enjoys the benefit of all the bad things done without actually going out and doing any of them.
F**k your teenage moralizing. Its a zero sum game out there and if we dont do it to someone, someone does it to us. Kumbaya is a nice pre-school song, but it doesnt make it past peoples essential nature.
Prissy friggin idealist.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  chuck
March 25, 2020 2:51 pm

Well asshole, please list the benefits the society accrues by murdering people all over the globe.

Specifically list the benefits received by spending trillions to destabilize countries and kill their civilians.

Also explain why the US military can’t account for $23 Trillion over the last 20 years.

Go ahead, you amoral swine, I’m waiting.

(EC)
(EC)
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 3:15 pm

I don’t understand Chuckie.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  (EC)
March 25, 2020 11:10 pm

But you understand and easily get women. What else is there?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 4:12 pm

Sao you are lauing blame in the wrong spot bro

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 26, 2020 12:28 am

Solutions – you are dumber than pig shit. The US military budget in its entire history does not amount to $23 trillion. That you would even parrot such a ridiculous lie is truly evidence of your vast inability to reason.

What has happened is that the military shifts say a $10 million dollar tank from point A to point B, and loses the tracking info, so, there is $10 million that point A cannot account for. That tank is on the books at point B, though, because it was received. Point B sends it to point C, and same thing happens – no tracking receipt at point B, but point C puts it on its books.
Now there is a$20 million discrepancy on the books, but the tank still exists at point C. This happens over and over and over and over. Each time it happens it adds to the discrepancy. But the tank still exists.

But the fact remains – the US military budget in all of its history adds up to under $23 trillion. The bullshit claim you made should immediately have set off alarm bells that it was impossible – if you had two functioning brain cells, you would have immediately said “hmm, yearly defence budget is $600 billion, so $23 trillion is forty years of budget, at current spending levels. Alarm alarm alarm! Bullshit alert! bullshit alert!

But nope, you actually go and post that shit as though it is true.

You are a fucking gullible imbecile without the sense God gave an earthworm.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Llpoh
March 26, 2020 6:23 am

Well shithead, people who know something about financial accounting and how to investigate fraud and abuse have looked into it and they have concludes there’s $23 T missing.

https://missingmoney.solari.com/

The military hasn’t ever passed an audit in decades. Why is that?

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 26, 2020 8:11 am

You’re typing in English….

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  chuck
March 25, 2020 5:25 pm

I’m still waiting loud mouth.

What, can’t back up your bullshit?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 26, 2020 12:32 am

Please, Stupid Is Obvious, price just how the US cannot account for $23 trillion during a period when its entire budget was around $10 trillion. Please explain how the fuck that is possible. Pretty please.

You are full of shit without a fucking clue.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Llpoh
March 26, 2020 6:17 am
Llpoh
Llpoh
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 26, 2020 6:19 am

So, you admit you are wrong. Got it.

M G
M G
  Llpoh
March 26, 2020 7:11 am

Have you ever done so?

When I asked you a year ago if you know what leverage is/was?
No answer.

And if you think it isn’t the time or place? You are correct. That time and place was a year ago.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 26, 2020 7:14 am

Seriously, it is nigh on impossible to visualize that a person can be as stupid as Solutions Ain’t Obvious. He doubles down on stupid, abandoning his claim that the military has mislaid more money than the entire military budgets since the US was formed, and instead now posting a link to a video saying that the US has mislaid $21 trillion.

Hell, what do I know. Maybe $21 trillion has been mislaid – at least it enters the realm of mathematically possible, but highly improbable given the budget is $4 trillion a year or whatever, with 70% of that mandatory payments. But at least it is not entirely impossible, unlike the military shit.

But the odds of me believing what is in a fucking video with no data sources posted is exactly zero.

Solutions, for fuck sake, think about what you post. Put a little bit of brainpower into. Think about the numbers involved, and do they make sense. Think about source material. Just think, for fucksake.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Llpoh
March 26, 2020 7:29 am

Well asshole, the $21T figure was the value when the original report came out. It has increased by $2T since then.

The people doing the investigation include Catherine Austin Fitts and Dr. Mark Skidmore – not lightweights in their fields. I’d say that they know a bit more about this than some loud mouth shithead like you.

Why not ask yourself why the average person never heard about this discrepancy.

“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” – Voltaire

In a similar fashion, to find out who the real gov’t is, who the real deep state is, just look for who gets away with the largest heist in human history over at least a 20 year period and the faux gov’t represented by the moron Trump, the Congress and the courts doesn’t start an investigation.

Also consider that the day before 911, Rumsfeld announced on national TV that DOD couldn’t account for $2T. The very next day, a missile took out the Navy team looking into that missing money at the Pentagon and their data backup site in NY was building 7 that mysteriously fell into its own foot print after not being hit by an aircraft.

Read the clues you fucking moron.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 26, 2020 8:04 am

Do you know who has a rougher time getting into Heaven than a rich man? A really smart fucker that only demands answers but never gives them.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 26, 2020 8:15 am

You keep doubling down on stupid.First it was the military lost it, then the US govt. make up your fucking mind. Which idiotic idea is it? You cannot even keep your story straight.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Llpoh
March 26, 2020 8:36 am

Well kemosabe, apparently you have limited reading comprehension ability and certainly can’t connect the dots. Let me spell it out for you seeing as your tribe isn’t noted for its intelligence.

The US military and the spook agencies ARE the real US gov’t. The actors that get elected are window dressing.

How else could $23T go missing? The budget process is just propaganda. The missing money came from many ‘budgets’ as the folks that actually run things have their hands in all the pots.

The actors like Trump and Pelosi and their predecessors never resumed the missing money inquiry after 911 that Rumsfeld to the world.

For nearly 2 decades the theft has been ongoing and our elected officials failed to start an investigation even after the military again failed an audit. That’s probably because they were told not to by the real owners of the country who only have one budget and that’s the entire pot.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Llpoh
March 26, 2020 3:58 pm

L1poh, give SAO’s idea a chance. Truth is stranger than fiction. Yes, you are right that the entire budget of the US Military according to official figures is less that $21 trillion or whatever, but don’t suppose your premises based on government figures are sacrosanct. We know about shadowstats.com, right? We could convert all budget money into 2020 real dollars, meaning adjusted for inflation into dollars of 2020, but I don’t think that is the explanation.

The explanation is that the president has slush fund based on Cold War legislation. The president is allowed to move money between that slush fund and any US Gov. department or entity in either direction. It is possible that budget money was redirected. Furthermore, it is possible that the CIA did ‘favors’ for money that goes into the slush fund.

I just did a quick search and came up with this:

While the documents are incomplete, original government sources indicate $21 trillion in unsupported adjustments have been reported for the Department of Defense and the Department of Housing and Urban Development for the years 1998-2015.

Also see Wikipedia’s “Central Intelligence Agency Act”

You’ve been propagandized! You premises are wrong.

Extra material if desired: https://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+Presidential+Slush+Fund.-a066155083

Llpoh
Llpoh
  'Reality' Doug
March 26, 2020 7:57 pm

Doug – you know what they mean by unsupported adjustments? I explained it with the tank illustration above.

You have zero proof, and you keep laying out bullshit that is entirely unsupported by any logical reasoning.

First he says defence lost $23 trillion, then he says the govt lost $21 trillion, then he tries the bullshit that he he was right because the military is actually the govt.

If there has ever been a bigger retard than SAO in TBP, I have not seen it, and I have been here since Admin had hair.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Llpoh
March 26, 2020 8:18 pm

That’s an answer to my comment alright. I have not looked carefully at the back and forth, nor do I wish to do further analysis. For some reason I believe you are both intelligent, logical, and need not be at odds, but everything happens for a reason.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Llpoh
March 26, 2020 8:03 am

But do you know about leverage?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 4:10 pm

They will pound sand when they come drafting my son, over my dead body will he go….

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 10:53 pm

You ran off to Canada? Hid in Mommy’s basement? Were you imprisoned?

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Mygirl...maybe
March 26, 2020 10:20 am

I retired to the sunny Caribbean where I won’t freeze my ass off when the power cuts start.

Got my generator, inverter/charger, batteries, huge propane tank and a small warehouse full of supplies that we use to run one of the businesses. Have several chest freezers full of food. Racks full of dry goods and canned food. Several water tanks with pressure tanks & RO filters and pumps and enough TP for years.

Yes, I was imprisoned in the US but only in a psychological sense. I was never free there. Constantly hounded by cops to give me speeding tickets that I’d have to fight in court. Only lost once. Constantly robbed by mandated vehicle insurance when I’ve NEVER caused an accident. Constantly robbed by the numerous taxing authorities and even in the southern climes of the DFW area, winters sucked big time.

I had enough and left.

Donkey
Donkey
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 11:54 pm

SAO,

I believe you are half right and that’s why going into the military these days can be a very lucrative career choice. BUT, the MIC is very powerful to young dumb and full of cum. That flag carrys a lot of weight. Almost as much as the $$.

My daughter wanted to go into the Airforce and I supported her. I believe she would have had healthcare for life if she got through boot camp. I could be wrong, it may be longer. I do remember a client telling me the Army paid off very well for him as we were standing in his $1,000,000 townhouse. He was still in the army.

I admit I did not know his full financial picture though. My daughter did not make the cut due to her scoliosis diagnosis. If she had put in 4 years, I also believe she would have benefited mightily from the discipline gained.

Overall, the MIC + the FED = You’re Fucked.

Donkey
Donkey
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 26, 2020 12:01 am

Some damn good men have been created by the military. Maybe they would have been great with or without the military?

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Donkey
March 26, 2020 6:13 am

Anyone that goes half way around the world with the intent to murder people he’s never met and who have done nothing to him or his tribe is the worst POS the world can produce.

That pretty much describes every person who volunteers to join the US murder machine and doesn’t object to being used offensively especially against civilians. I fail to see how any of them can then be labeled great.

Those that joined not fully realizing what they got themselves into should refuse orders to do anything not in defense.

What happened before Vietnam was before my time and maybe there were men who fought honestly to defend their tribe after being attacked. The US hasn’t been in that situation during my entire life, as 911 was an inside job.

Check Six
Check Six
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 12:55 pm

Stockdale was the squadron commander who, after a night recon mission looking for the PT boats that were supposedly attacking the Maddox and Turner Joy (Tonkin Gulf), reported that there were no North Vietnamese boats in the area.

His report was changed at the direction of our nice Jewish president, LBJ.

(((Same Tribe))), Same Problem.

Stockdale wrote several books, my favorite being: “Thoughts of a Philosophical Fighter Pilot.”

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Check Six
March 25, 2020 1:00 pm

The fact that he was in Vietnam aiding the slaughter of the Vietnamese people makes him an accomplice. There’s no amount of soul searching or after the fact regret to bring back the lives lost.

As long as there are amoral people like Stockdale, the war machine will keep rolling along.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 2:26 pm

Me and my new hunting pup took a short drive out of town this morning. We walked, actually I walked, he ran and bounced joyously. The 5 month old swam in the fresh scent of a rooster that jumped and cackled as he left the sparse snow beaten cover. Life seemed normal, life was normal. Take a walk Captain, breathe some air, your dark energy appears as smudged letters. Your morals are not in question, your finger wagging and nagging make me sad. You are correct there is nothing that we do that will bring those lives back. Sometimes we are a peaceful people, often we are warlike.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
March 25, 2020 3:35 pm

I think his ears are plugged.

Two if by sea, Three if from within thee
Two if by sea, Three if from within thee
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 3:46 pm

You know…I cannot help but believe that in reality you don`t give a shit about Vietnamese peoples.
You could almost convince me you do tho.

mike
mike
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 6:37 pm

SAO: you are a totalitarian.

Because perfectist thinking always leads to totalitarianism.

Note: the word ‘perfectist’ was chosen deliberately to distinguish it from personal (i.e. limited) perfectionism.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  mike
March 25, 2020 6:41 pm

Your assertion lacks proof and therefore isn’t worth spit.

I am at the opposite end of totalitarian control as an anarchist. My belief is that each individual should be his own gov’t and act as a sovereign among other sovereigns. Rules but no rulers.

I’d believe in democracy only when there are roughly 7.5 billion democratic governments.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 6:54 pm

Ah, a Utopian.

That explains it.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  hardscrabble farmer
March 25, 2020 6:56 pm

Aim and strive for what you want. Settle for what you can get.

If you start off half beaten you’re you’ve conceded the game.

mike
mike
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 7:11 pm

Some more proof:
Check Six wrote

Stockdale wrote several books, my favorite being: “Thoughts of a Philosophical Fighter Pilot.”

You wrote, which I take as a direct response towards the Philsophical thinking of Stockdale:

The fact that he was in Vietnam aiding the slaughter of the Vietnamese people makes him an accomplice. There’s no amount of soul searching or after the fact regret to bring back the lives lost.

no amount of soul searching

That is a perfectist approach, especially as you don’t know (or didn’t list) any specific slaughter of the Vietnamese people that Stockman did himself.

And you didn’t even touch on, in your latest reply, on that perfectist accusation.
One can also be a perfectist anarchist!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 3:50 pm

Solutions are obvious ?
Many are not in support of what our corrupt politicians involve our military in around the world . Dare I say most in my lifetime has been a huge waste of blood and treasure for the investor class and the political class to benefit from and countless unnecessary deaths of civilians and military on both sides .
To disparage a military career man for his willingness to answer the call is as wrong as it could possibly be .
Men & women of honor and integrity step up and answer the call . The ones we should hold in contempt and accountable are the BIG CLUB members .
The ever present circle jerk of Wall Street to K-Street to Capitol Street . Check out who dumped their investments with inside knowledge recently after a close door meeting . As these political animals emerged from their DC hole they announce all is well and turn around pick up that cell phone and speed dial their broker and direct them to sell sell sell before the market tanked .
All who just pulled this stunt are claiming the Prissy defense : I don’t know nothing about no stock market ! While they pocketed the recent gains run up you and I found out just in time to watch it tank !
Tell me who loves ya baby ! LOL

Donkey
Donkey
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 26, 2020 12:08 am

Young men are built, or used to be built, for fighting. That testosterone is some powerful cud. All that’s needed is a little goading.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
March 25, 2020 12:20 pm

We are between the proverbial rock and hard place and the only way out is going to be seriously UGLY.

Unless Jesus decides to Rapture out those that are truly His beforehand.

Ivan
Ivan
  Eyes Wide Shut
March 25, 2020 3:59 pm

Oh please, enough with the contrived John Darby “the shoes, the shoes….where did everybody go!?!”.

What bullshit.

Crawfisher
Crawfisher
March 25, 2020 12:33 pm

Maintain faith… but confront the most brutal facts.
I read the book Good to Great where I learned this expression. I often remind myself of this quote.
Article was a great reminder. Thanks Simon.

niebo
niebo
March 25, 2020 12:37 pm

You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose– with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.

There is NO RAPTURE. YOU ARE STUCK HERE. PERIOD. Full STOP.

THIS MOMENT DEFINES US ALL. PRAY for STRENGTH to STAND.

Braid a whip of chords. Overturn the tables. BOW BEFORE NO MAN.

Come, Lord Jesus!

flash
flash
  niebo
March 25, 2020 12:55 pm

+1000

Ivan
Ivan
  niebo
March 25, 2020 4:00 pm

Amen!

flash
flash
March 25, 2020 12:54 pm

Optimism is just another name for wishful thinking. Truth is neither negative nor positive. It is the only thing that will keep you free, sane and alive. Bullshit kills , even the optimist.

mike
mike
  flash
March 25, 2020 6:38 pm

What about the unknown, but reasonably possible future?
We can always make things better…

flash
flash
  mike
March 26, 2020 8:23 am

Wut about muh…gammas gonna gamma.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 25, 2020 3:30 pm

As any free born man of good report will face adversities and remain vigilant to overcome to the best of his abilities . Fix and save who and what you can while ignoring those unworthy of your best efforts . A triage of humanity reaching out when and where it is in your power to assist without injury to yourself . The combat medic is trained not to take unnecessary risks , protecting themselves to maintain their entrusted abilities to save those they can .

John Galt
John Galt
March 25, 2020 3:46 pm

John “songbird” McCain was a wimp in comparison. They all told, stories of how he sucked up to the vietcong and gave them anything they wanted so as long as they didn’t beat him more. I cannot blame him, as I have no idea of the fortitude I would have under such circumstances, but reflecting on McStains tenure as a Senator tells me all I need to know about his character. His time in Hanoi Hilton was a precursor to his time in the Senate. He was a deep stater and I assume he felt he gave all he could for his country in that Hilton and felt we were not worthy of giving more so he went against and voted against America anytime he could. His daughter, the plebe, is just as bad character as he was. What a Piece of fat shit she is…all these people born on third base and think they hit a homer, just like ancient dynasties always speaking of royal blood. Fuck that. I want the times when hero’s become kings, when people give all they can in the heat of battle for liberty and for the people and their heirs and if they survive they are worthy of a crown, not just because their ancestors had courage. These elites are always misplacing someone else’s assets in their pockets the same goes for their ancestors heroics, they claim them as their own. Royal bloodlines are some of the weakest in history….Stockdale deserves great respect, his offspring, none, for they must earn it. That is why a peasant can become a knight and create their own “royal bloodline”. It was and should always be off heroics. The biggest hero’s are the dead Ones just like Trump said…for they gave the ultimate sacrifice..

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  John Galt
March 25, 2020 11:18 pm

McCain was in the equestrian class, i.e. military class akin to lesser nobles. He knew the perks of his inheritance and exploited that inheritance to the full. Nothing else did he do.

Brian Reilly
Brian Reilly
March 25, 2020 3:57 pm

Another propaganda presentation. Potential to kill millions? No more than any the average flu season, and likely far less than some recent. The economy was already a sham, and the Corobavirus® is being used as a precipitating event to scare people (the middle class producers) into giving up the last vestiges of their prosperity and liberty do the globalist uber class can have all the control they lack. They will soon have all the money, and us rubes will have little pieces of green paper, or cards authorized for property acquisition by others.

This is serious, but it is NOT a medical calamity. It is the end of one period of human history, and the start of a new one, all at once. Keep good humor. You will need it.

No comment on VADM Stockdale. None of these “wars” is worth the life of one decent man. God will judge Stockdale, and use the manifest mercy for which He is so revered.

Jdog
Jdog
March 25, 2020 4:13 pm

The one thing on that list we do not have to worry about is hyperinflation. Anyone who understand economics 101 knows hyperinflation comes from a loss of production, and extreme shortages of goods. That is really not a risk. The virus will run its course, new antivirals will be developed to treat it, and we will live with it added to our list of diseases.
The economic impact of this crisis will last much longer than the crisis itself. The virus did not cause the economic disaster that is coming, but it definitely gave it a big push. The fact is that irresponsible economic behavior has been being practiced for decades now, and getting worse as time has passed. Debt is at unsustainable levels, and the only way to balance the books is through deflation. In a debt based fiat monetary system inflation is caused by the interest on borrowed money. In such a system, money is created by debt. When you sign a loan paper, or use your credit card, you, and the banks make money for that purchase right then. The fact that you pay above the price of whatever you buy on debt because of the interest causes inflation. If you default on that debt, that money you and the bank created, disappears, and that causes deflation…
All the talk of money printing is just that, talk. It is designed to prevent panic. The Fed loans money, it does not give it away. It matters little how much money it says it “printed” when no one is borrowing it. Almost all money today is digital, as almost all large monetary transactions are debt based. In reality, if no one borrows the money, the money cannot be “printed”.

Steve
Steve
  Jdog
March 25, 2020 8:08 pm

Jdog,
We will have massive inflation. You got all of it right except that. When production falls and the currency increases we have more currency chasing fewer goods. That is inflation. We will ultimately get massive inflation from this debacle.
Gold and silver to the moon countering a worthless currency.

Jdog
Jdog
  Steve
March 25, 2020 9:35 pm

You seem to have this ass backwards. The problem going forward is not going to be shortages of crap, there will be plenty of production, and tons and tons of crap. What there will be a shortage of is money.
This crisis is wiping out billions of dollars a day. Poof, gone, by by. When you have the destruction of money it causes deflation. If you do not understand that principal I would suggest studying a little basic economics.
If you think there is going to be a glut of money chasing fewer goods you had better ask yourself where the hell people are going to get all this money? 70% of the “new economy” jobs since 2008 are service sector jobs, like restaurant workers and bartenders. Many of those restaurants and bars will not survive this self quarantine, so those people are out of jobs, and trying to make ends meet on unemployment. The owners of those businesses are bankrupt, and putting their house and car up for sale to try to survive.
There is not going to be any hyperinflation, and gold and silver will fall in value along with other assets because despite what people wrongly believe, it is not money. It is an asset, and all assets will lose value.
The lies of the gold and silver sellers has become a religion among people who believe their hype. Have you ever asked yourself why these fraudulent gold dealers are willing to trade their gold, that they say is going to be worth many multiples more in the future due to hyperinflation are willing to trade it to you for the dollars they claim will be worthless? Doesn’t that bother you a little? I mean if they truly believed their own bullshit, do you think they would do that? Don’t you think they would be keeping it so they would get rich from the hyperinflation?
It is no skin off my nose what other people do or believe, I just try to inject a little common sense. In the end everyone will do what they want, and reap the consequences.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Jdog
March 25, 2020 11:09 pm

Inflation happens because the money loses value. Takes lots of money to buy product. What happens when you have trillions of fiat tossed into the mix? What happens when no one wants to buy your debt? What is backing the dollar? Full faith and credit? Uh huh….Zimbabwe anyone?

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Steve
March 25, 2020 11:20 pm

Can’t you recognize the troll by its fruit?

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Jdog
March 25, 2020 11:21 pm
Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 4:21 pm

To all the Anonymous assholes posting here, I don’t read or reply to Anonymous emails. I have an email filter that trashes them. Occasionally I see an Anonymous reply to one of my posts while replying to a person with at least a consistent fake ID. I don’t read their prose and certainly won’t reply.

I would suggest that others do the same to rid this site of people that all pretend to be the same Anonymous individual.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 6:14 pm

Talk about opening the door. Anons get to respond to you and you won’t reply. Watch everyone start commenting as Anons.

Consistent fake ID
Consistent fake ID
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 6:31 pm

I’ve been here for a long time. Commented as a consistent fake ID until it was lost into the inter world. You Captain Obvious remind me of an angry little boy. Someone disagreeing with you does not make them an asshole. If your mama didn’t teach you that, shame on your mama.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Consistent fake ID
March 25, 2020 6:37 pm

Initiating name calling makes one an asshole and I only reply in kind.

Your bringing my mother into this makes you an asshole.

Why not try to refute my comments with logic and reason. My bet is you can’t do it as no one here has been able to do it so far.

Go ahead give it a try.

Consistent fake ID
Consistent fake ID
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 7:05 pm

OK. Life happens and what you think or believe makes no difference to anyone but you. Life is not fair, my mama told me this when I was very young. She also cuffed me when I would blame someone else for my own failures. Humans are kind and peaceful sometimes, when provoked brutal and merciless. We humans struggle with who we are . Some of us think we are smart, some tough, some rich. Just watch those that consume a wee bit too much whiskey. Our inhibitions decrease, out nature is revealed grossly. Nothing you say is untruthful and the lesson that is revealed to you thru time is nothing you think or say is the absolute truth. I hunted with a puppy today, I told you this earlier. He is programed to hunt and the smile on his face is so evident that you can’t deny it. Same for us. We are programed to survive. If we can do it with peace and grace? Sometimes. Me calling you Captain Obvious was inflammatory, but in my defense Solutions are obvious is a rather ______handle.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Consistent fake ID
March 25, 2020 11:43 pm

Is it ever correct to blame others? Most humans who ever lived were subjugated by elitists. When a woman tells me who I am, I don’t believe it. Mothers are the worst because they have cart blanche with a man before he has his manhood. Your gynocentrism is telling. Warriors blame others all right. Lap dog platitudes are going out of style soon.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Solutions Are Obvious
March 25, 2020 11:26 pm

I support you of course. The faith narrative is not optional for most here. Fear is their biggest motivator. They must press into a strong herd. Daddy government for the win. Only infighting can weaken this wicked herd that styles itself righteous. The Hegelian dragon has two wings. I would not invest myself emotionally with these people, as far as possible. I’m trying to find the easiest path of indifference and concentrate my focus by doing less. Easiest is not easy.

Jdog
Jdog
March 25, 2020 5:46 pm

I often wonder where we would be today if Ross Perot and Stockdale were elected instead of Clinton.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Jdog
March 25, 2020 11:33 pm

You’re a troll, but wait a fucking minute. Our boy Stockdale, bigger than life, was the VP-candidate with Perot? As I recall very imperfectly, Perot’s VP choice was a deer in the headlights at the one debate he did. Doesn’t seem like the fresh-out-of-hot-cakes badass of this post. Maybe I am completely misremembering. If Perot chose him, I suppose he was a good man. Then there’s that whole military-industrial-academia complex thing. Does it even matter anymore? There will be a time for each of us to deal with what’s right in front of our faces I expect. I’m not sure the flow of information is anything other than a detriment at this point. Ain’t no way to win online.

22winmag - TBP's Corona Lawsuit Hotline
22winmag - TBP's Corona Lawsuit Hotline
March 26, 2020 12:02 am

The Gulf of Tonkin was totally faked.

The mainstream has admitted this for over 10 years now.

Everything else that came after was HIGHLY questionable.

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
March 26, 2020 8:08 am

Propaganda.
Homicides, the “Flu”, car accident deaths, kill more than Covid 19….every year.

The “writer” must have a bad case of TDS.

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
  gatsby1219
March 26, 2020 12:59 pm

Not to mention Opiod overdoses over shadows even the flu.