Fermi’s Paradox

Guest Post by The Zman

Fermi’s paradox is named after the Italian physicist Enrico Fermi, who famously asked, “Where are all the space aliens?” Whether he actually said that is unknown, but he did wonder how it is that we have yet to find any evidence of life in the universe, other than on earth. According to the Drake equation, there should be quite a few extraterrestrial civilizations that we can detect from earth. Here is a famous paper on the topic written back in the 1970’s explaining the problem.

For those interested in listening to a long discussion on the subject, this episode of the Future Strategist with Jim Miller is a good listen. He interviews Greg Cochran, who knows a great deal about the topic. This was before Greg unfortunately succumbed to the The Madness, so it is free of that stuff. Miller and Cochran go into the background of the topic and offer some possible reasons for why we have not discovered any signs of intelligent life anywhere in the known universe.

Problems like this are fun and make for great science fiction plots. The great science fiction novel The Mote in God’s Eye is about man’s first contact with an alien civilization and touches on why it took so long for humans to find aliens and vice-versa. A main topic of the book is the idea that the alien civilization has Malthusian cycles, where they eventually overpopulate their world and destroy themselves. As a result, they can never advance quite far enough to explore the universe.

The novel does not get too far into this, as it is mostly a plot devise to move the story along, but it is a possible reason for why we have not found intelligent life in the universe and why we can no longer go to the moon. That is, we have regressed due to social evolution of some sort that we don’t fully understand. It now takes ten years to build a tall building in New York City, when a century ago it took a year. We don’t build dams or bridges anymore. We can’t even maintain the ones we have now.

This is where people will say, “We could go to the moon if we really wanted to do it. It’s the government that cannot do it. Private industry could go if it was worth it.” Maybe that’s true or maybe that is just a coping strategy to mask reality. All we know is we have not been to the moon since 1972 and we lack the facilities to do it right now. Even those vaunted private explorers are struggling to do things we could do decades ago, like launch something into space and bring it back again.

Social cycle theory is not a new idea. In the 19th century, Italian sociologist and economist Vilfredo Pareto developed a theory where power in a society passes back and forth between the clever and the aggressive. Most famously, Oswald Spengler theorized that human societies are born, blossom into maturity and then, like a person, decline into old age and eventually death. Ed Dutton and Michael Woodley have built on this concept using modern studies of human intelligence.

In other words, the reason we have not been able to travel the stars is that intelligent life can never advance to that point. Our civilization lifespan prohibits us from reaching that level of technology. That does not mean there is no progress. Clearly, we have reached a higher level of technological achievement than the Romans, but there’s always a dark age to reset things. What comes after this cycle will learn a lot from us, but maybe make it as far as Mars, before the great downturn ends their run.

Current events offers some insight into why we may never meet space aliens. The panic over the virus is something new to modern society. This virus is not a threat to humanity, but it is treated as one. We know there was no panic over the Swine flu, the Asian flu, the Hong Kong flu and so on. There was no panic over the great influenza outbreak of 2017 that killed 80,000 Americans. Yet with the death toll soaring to 4,000 with the Chinese flu, America is paralyzed with fear.

It could be that when a civilization becomes sufficiently advanced, three things happen that change how it interacts with the world. One is the birth rate falls. This is something we have seen all over the world. Once a society can reliably feed its people and it reduces interpersonal violence to a certain level, total fertility rates fall. At the same time, the society feminizes. Women begin to take up positions of authority in both civil and government institutions, changing the nature of those institutions.

That’s the third thing, what we are seeing today. A society dominated by women is extremely risk averse. The focus first shifts to elevating the value of life, then to guarding the children against any potential risk. We saw this happen in the 90’s and 00’s with the millennial generation, who were sheltered from everything. Finally, the society shifts to organizing against any threat, even those that promise to merely trim a few years off the lifespan of the octogenarians.

A society that is hyper-focused on preventing even the slightest risk is not a society taking great risks to explore the stars. Maybe that’s why the cost of going back to the moon is prohibitively high. The safety precautions that would be required make the venture pointlessly expensive. The reason it takes ten years to build a building that a century ago only took a year to build, is that today’s society is risk intolerant. If just one worker gets a hangnail or stubs a toe, the cost is considered too high.

Another possibility along the same lines is that in addition to the obsession with safety, the low fertility rate simply reduces the population. This is beginning in places like Japan and Italy. In a world of growing populations, the point of technological advance is to provide for more people. In a world of shrinking populations, the point of technological advance is to protect the people. That means more automation and less actual work, which could result in physical harm to the remaining humans.

What we may be seeing is the early stages of a new social model, one imagined in science fiction a century ago. Once a species becomes sufficiently advanced, the population shrinks, but lives in greater comfort. Perhaps in time lifespans will extend so a small number of humans, cared for by automated cities, live long lives almost like children in a daycare center. A species of pampered toddlers is no going to risk it all to explore the stars and come visit earth.

Of course, the Chinese flu is a great reminder that the free flow of people means the free flow of germs, many of which are deadly to those unfamiliar with them. The Europeans expansion into the New World probably killed off 90% of the indigenous people in the Americas. No one really knows for sure, but the great weapon used against the Indians was the pathogen. Small pox and influenza have been the greatest killers spread by man in all of history.

Maybe once a species overcomes all of the problems listed above and reaches the point where it can explore the stars, it has also realized that the spread of pathogens is too high of a risk. Maybe extraterrestrials explored a few places before they could reach earth and the result was a horrific die off. Maybe the alien bug killed them or maybe their bugs killed everything they touched. As a result, they hide from us any sign of life, so we don’t make the mistake of infecting the universe.

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hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
April 2, 2020 8:39 pm

Wow, that was so retarded on so many levels I can’t even.

So here’s some Hall and Oates.

(we never went to the Moon)

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  hardscrabble farmer
April 3, 2020 1:04 am

I liked it. There is the big picture, context, which is the Fermi Paradox. There is observation of our species. There is the supposition of the Disease Hypothesis that explains why things are the way they are. I think it’s quite good. That is philosophy. That is disciplined, evidence-based thinking. Hypothesis are compared to the problem of making sense of observations and to alternative hypotheses. Some win, some lose, some are in a draw for insufficient information, the heuristics. I have my doubts about American astronauts reaching the moon too, but I can’t prove it either way. Regardless, methodical thought requires leaps of faith that failure is an option. Nice post, Zman!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
April 3, 2020 12:05 pm

it’s always hilarious to read here just how lost some of you souls are…

How to See All Six Apollo Moon Landing Sites

Todd Packer's mentor
Todd Packer's mentor
April 2, 2020 8:44 pm

We are all alone, God’s special creation, and the atheists in astronomy can’t handle that fact.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Todd Packer's mentor
April 2, 2020 8:52 pm

What if all the intelligent life forms in the Universe are already here?

It’s a sweet little planet, maybe we’re the Hawai’i of the galaxy.

Pequiste
Pequiste
  hardscrabble farmer
April 2, 2020 9:35 pm

While at the rate we are going; in the direction we are headed, it shall all turn into Camden, NJ.

Old Virginian
Old Virginian
  Pequiste
April 6, 2020 11:01 pm

I turned into Camden, NJ about 15 years ago by accident near the Liberty Bell and had to cross the river and pay the toll twice to get back to Philly.

(EC)
(EC)
  hardscrabble farmer
April 2, 2020 9:58 pm

It’s a sweet little planet, shame if something was to happen to it.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
  hardscrabble farmer
April 2, 2020 10:03 pm

From what I’ve read, the U.S. gov has admitted there are over 40 “breeds” of intelligent aliens who visit Earth from time to time. And Ben Rich, former head of “Skunkworks” said “there was a mistake in the calculations and we now have the technology to take E.T. home”. This dude was head of the F-117 fighter development.

gman
gman
  hardscrabble farmer
April 2, 2020 10:36 pm

“They’re here, aren’t they?”

“Oh they’ve been hear a long time, Muldoon.”

Muscledawg
Muscledawg
  hardscrabble farmer
April 3, 2020 8:26 am

HSF-
“intelligent” I like your sacrasm. It is a sweet little planet, just to many f***tards running the show.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 2, 2020 9:05 pm

The author lost me when he said ‘we’ went to to the moon. Aside from Alice Kramden, no one has gone to the moon.

(EC)
(EC)
  Anonymous
April 2, 2020 9:57 pm

No, Ralph only promised her that.

Changes in Attidudes
Changes in Attidudes
  (EC)
April 2, 2020 10:14 pm

Ralph always said, “One of these days Alice,… to the moon!”

(EC)
(EC)
  Changes in Attidudes
April 2, 2020 10:28 pm
hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Administrator
April 2, 2020 9:30 pm

Looks legit.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
April 2, 2020 9:58 pm

The reason we haven’t discovered extraterrestrials is they are interdimentional and they don’t want to be found yet.

gman
gman
  Eyes Wide Shut
April 2, 2020 10:42 pm

“This one can SEE!”

neil armstrong
neil armstrong
April 2, 2020 10:01 pm

and a glorious walk it was

Undeniable
Undeniable
April 2, 2020 10:02 pm

This, from the piece, however, was profound in all of its valiant verity and pithy preciseness:

This [Chinese] virus is not a threat to humanity, but it is treated as one. We know there was no panic over the Swine flu, the Asian flu, the Hong Kong flu and so on. There was no panic over the great influenza outbreak of 2017 that killed 80,000 Americans. Yet with the death toll soaring to 4,000 with the Chinese flu, America is paralyzed with fear.

(EC)
(EC)
  Undeniable
April 2, 2020 10:34 pm

The last time I heard a similar exaggeration, Admin was describing a dude with the soaring IQ of 85.

nkit
nkit
April 2, 2020 10:11 pm

1m million infected, Over 300,00 hospitalized and 12, 469 Americans died of the H1N1 Swine flu in 2009 that came across our southern border, yet Obama played golf daily, refused to shut our southern border and took no grief from our Bolshevik press. No calls for legislation to investigate the President’s actions. No shut downs or destruction of our economy. It is rayciss to question the magic colored boy. Besides, those 12,649 were just Americans. It’s not like they were Kenyans. Schwing!

(EC)
(EC)
  nkit
April 2, 2020 10:43 pm

1m million is a trillion. I doubt the world is that overcrowded. Last I heard, we were approaching 7 to 9 billion useless eaters or as Voltaire described them, people cluttering the face of the earth.

gman
gman
  (EC)
April 2, 2020 11:21 pm

“7 to 9 billion useless eaters”

but not you, right?

(EC)
(EC)
  gman
April 3, 2020 12:30 pm

Maggie said we are all useless eaters. I can’t defend against that.

Of all the races, the devil found that man could be tempted. The songbirds had refused riches and the secrets of the universe. The lions were content with one buffalo a day. Man had imagination and could see himself with many buffalo and much riches.

I can work with man, thought the devil, but he is too innocent. To be truly evil, he must know the difference between right and wrong, so that he can choose evil for himself, I don’t have to spend so much time suggesting it to him. If I can tempt him to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, it will be the last temptation I have to offer him.

Then the birds and lions will rue the day they refused to be tempted away from the big guy.

gman
gman
April 2, 2020 10:35 pm

“Where are all the space aliens?”

do angels and devils count?

gman
gman
April 2, 2020 10:40 pm

quantum physics is impossible to comprehend until you view the universe as a state machine simulation, then it becomes readily comprehensible. aristotle was right – material reality consists not of physical particles, but of point properties and behaviors.

so where are all the aliens? they’re outside the simulation, looking in.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 2, 2020 10:56 pm

I admire those who can talk about many different topics. Kind of.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 3, 2020 2:44 am

I enjoy science fiction and wondering what is really out there beyond our planet like most people do but I realize that humans on earth are like fish in the sea. Humans are meant to live on Earth and to go into outer space means death much like the fish out of water. Just my two cents.

Muscledawg
Muscledawg
April 3, 2020 7:52 am

Just a thought experiment:
On behalf of all “True” Christians, there are no aliens! If one truly understands the bible, it shows the entire plan God has for man. There is no mention of “outlanders” anywhere in the Bible. God does not intentionally try to deceive us with His written word. If “Space Aliens” existed, and at some future time were to visit Earth, it would be found in the Bible. It is not. Drake’s equation is an interesting thought based on what data sets? His own choice? Change the numbers used and you can have aliens running all over earth and somehow still not see any, unless you have “special” sunglasses.

On behalf of all “Skeptics”, two problems exist.

1st, distances involved. We, mankind, have only had the capability to “listen” to the sky’s noise for about 100 years. That also means as of today, we have only been able to send noise to within 100 light years away from earth. Granted that, for all you simpletons, that is such a small percentage of the universe that for 2 lifeforms to develop within that sphere, the word astronomical does not even come close to describing the slim chance of it happening. OK OK, back to the distance thing. You secular thinkers like to throw around “scientific” theories about time travel, faster than light speeds, and whatever mindfuck things you can come up with. Ain’t gonna happen. Now, any “noise” heard that comes from farther away, say 100″s of millions or billions of LYs away, the Malthusian cycle applies. Are they still alive? Probably not. They would have been here to early for us to “visit” with. To bad, I was hoping that they would eat liberals and shit oil & gold. Oh well.

2nd, there is the timing factor. What would make anyone believe that they would exist at the same time that we do other than delusional thinking. Think about this, the universe is 14+ billion years old, (even the Bible does not dispute that) man has only been here for about 200,000 years(secular thought). We have not even been here for a nanosecond of history. How many lifeforms would have to evolve( oh, there’s that secular theory again) during the course of time for any one of them to exist at the same time as us? Also beyond astronomical. For all you math challenged try it this way: this is a linear representation of time(as we understand it) 0 (the Big Bang) – 14+ billion years(the present). The earth came into existence about the 10 B mark. Man came into existence about the 14B mark. Now, start putting dots on the line when you think aliens came into existence, survived their Malthusian death trap, learned to make “noise” or travel faster than light all to contact us!? Ain’t gonna happen.
0_____________________________________10 __________14+
…………………………………………………………………………………………………….Earth………………………Man

On behalf of all secular “Thinkers”, there is no god! You evolved from slime. Billions of years ago. You above, get over it! Have a nice day.

nuff said.

flash
flash
April 3, 2020 9:50 am

It makes my wife furious when I say it, but it’s the sad fact of the current year. It really is a bitches’ world. By design.

https://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~iversen/PDFfiles/LottKenny.pdf

Did Women’s Suffrage Change the Size and Scope of Government? John R. Lott, Jr. Yale University Lawrence W. Kenny University of Florida This paper examines the growth of government during this century

VI. Conclusion
Giving women the right to vote significantly changed American politics from the very beginning. Despite claims to the contrary, the gender gap is not something that has arisen since the 1970s.

Suffrage coincided with immediate increases in state government expenditures and revenue, and these effects continued growing as more women took advantage of the franchise. Similar changes occurred at the federal level as female suffrage led to more liberal voting records for the state’s U.S. House and Senate delegations. In the Senate, suffrage changed voting behavior by an amount equal to almost 20 percent of the difference between Republican and Democratic senators.

Suffrage also coincided with changes in the probability that prohibition would be enacted and changes in divorce laws. We were also able to deal with questions of causality by taking advantage of the fact that while some states voluntarily adopted suffrage, others where compelled to do so by the Nineteenth Amendment. The conclusion was that suffrage dramatically changed government in both cases. Accordingly, the effects of suffrage we estimate are not reflecting some other factor present in only states that adopted suffrage.

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  flash
April 3, 2020 12:24 pm

You bring up a critical subject-> Men vs. Women.

The 100th Anniversary of 8-18-1920.

100 years in the USA. 150 years in Utah and Wyoming.

The #metoo men vs. women social engineering project has proven to be an unmitigated disaster for the Republic.

flash
flash

Give ’em the vote, they said. What could possibly go wrong, they said.

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Muscledawg
Muscledawg

Joe Kidd asked for $500 per ear. What was her deal?

(EC)
(EC)
  flash
April 3, 2020 12:35 pm

Regardless of the politics of black dick on white vaj, she is hoisting the object of her affections the way we men hoist our own predilection for football and war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4cyOidePGQ

flash
flash
  (EC)
April 3, 2020 1:35 pm

Shut up misogynist . All 75 sexes are the same.

Montefrío
Montefrío
April 3, 2020 12:43 pm

“Where are all the space aliens?”

There are times when some comments here make me ask myself if that’s not a rhetorical question.

Horseless Headsman
Horseless Headsman
April 3, 2020 1:18 pm

Some interesting ideas there. Thanks for the post.