Open Letter to a Fear Mask Pusher

Guest Post by Eric Peters

A reader has been compelled to decline a position of leadership in his church due to a Fear Masks Mandatory policy imposed by the church leadership. He wrote an Open Letter to the leadership and membership of the church explaining why he could not accept the position, given the Fear Mask Mandate. His letter is worth publishing here as well since it touches on an issue that affects all of us, everywhere:

“It is with regret, but with a sense of conviction, that I must remove myself from consideration for the Secretary position at [the church].

At the end of March, my job was cut due to lack of business from — what I consider to be — the mass hysteria surrounding COVID-19, perpetuated by the media and governments, including ours here in Ohio. This irrationality has led to record-setting unemployment, more infringement on civil liberties than I have seen in my lifetime, more corresponding government overreach and the disturbing trend of “informing” on fellow citizens.

National health adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci has publicly stated that he would favor “immunity cards” or “vaccination cards” for Americans to “prove” they are not infected by or carrying the virus. This sort of step would, in my opinion, open the door to unprecedented government restrictions on freedom of movement, financial activity and other rights. Against this backdrop, I was disheartened to see that the annual meeting would be “Masks Mandatory” for those who wished to meet at the church and that the Wednesday gathering would have the same restrictions. Masks Mandatory is a policy that I feel prolongs the COVID-19 hysteria and paves the way for the ever-increasing governmental intrusions I mentioned above.

Toward that end, I will not be attending any services, events, or meetings that are Masks Mandatory and even attending virtually, especially to be elected to a position, would to me be giving endorsement to the policy and adding to the fear and hysteria it fosters.  I also will not be contributing financially to [the church] so long as such a policy is enforced or promoted by church leadership. I do not wish to deter others from taking any protective measures they feel they should take; however, I feel this is each member’s right and responsibility to decide for themselves.

Please be assured that this is not a decision I make lightly or thoughtlessly. I have enjoyed my time at the church and would like to continue my activities with you all in the future, as well as financially contribute, but without the presumption of sickness and with the freedom to use the church facilities and to interact with other members freely, as has been the case in the past.

I chose an “open letter” format for this message because I feel it is an important enough issue for everyone to have the chance to know my views on.  I would ask that each of you consider the issue, both in terms of Masks Mandatory and the greater ramifications it portends, and decide on a course of action you wish to take.

. . .

My correspondent received the following email from his minister:

“Chris, I am sorry to hear that you’ll be leaving us, especially since I was so excited about the gifts and skills you could bring to leadership. You have the right to your opinions and I would defend your right to speak up as vociferously as I act to protect the most vulnerable people I love. I want to thank you personally and publicly for posting this as an open letter. So often people just disappear because of something they are in disagreement with and we never know why. It’s good to have clarity. For everyone’s sake. Good luck on your journey.”

My correspondent’s  final thoughts as follows:

I’m not sure whether it was related, but the next day the church newsletter appeared in my email. The front page had the minister’s message, which was about masks. He wrote that he sometimes felt silly for wearing a mask against a disease that if he got, he’d very likely recover from, but he realized that Masks Mandatory wasn’t about our individual opinions, but it was about protecting our fellow humans. Therefore, that is why we all should be wearing masks, even if it made us uncomfortable.

I replied to my correspondent as follows:

Dear Chris –

I applaud your decision and the caring, yet incisive way you conveyed your reasons for it.

I particularly liked that you made the point about perpetuating unwarranted fear – something which ought to be a concern to people seeking comfort at a church.

Are we to live in perpetual fear?

Because that is ultimately what this is about. An unseen “threat” that could be anywhere, might strike anyone – like “terrorism” – only even more alarming because invisible and fundamentally something that cannot be defeated. People are going to get sick – from this virus and other viruses. Some will die. Eventually, we will all die. But getting sick is part of life – and to destroy life over irrational fear of sickness is . . .  sick.

It means perpetually living in fear.

Who benefits from this? The pastor repeats the argument that Fear Masking is “about protecting our fellow humans,” which I italicized for emphasis.

This of course is false on the face of it as Fear Masking by people who aren’t sick doesn’t protect any human and in fact harms them greatly by creating the impression of ubiquitous sickness.

Seeing “sick” people everywhere fosters the false impression of danger everywhere. This creates mental sickness – a neurotic fear of getting sick. Which makes people miserable as they cringe in fear of “germs” and “dirty” door knobs and accepting of being treated like lepers. Or rather, leprous cattle.

Sickness Psychosis is sad enough when it afflicts a few people – e.g., the comedian Howie Mandel. But when an entire society is pressured to emulate the behavior and – inevitably – assume the bizarre routines and rituals of mentally ill people? How sad. How pathetic.

How dangerous.

One of the horrific consequences of Fear Mask acceptance – if it is accepted – will be that normal/reasonable non-neurotic people will be first characterized as “uncaring” (as your pastor passively aggressively implies you are) and, inevitably, as criminals.

Well-meaning (but unthinking) people like your pastor do not understand this danger – despite the logic being very obvious.

If it is accepted that Fear Masking  is “about protecting our fellow humans” then it is a threat to other humans to not wear one.

If so, that cannot be allowed – and violators must be punished. Or at least, sequestered and quarantined. Forced to submit to vaccinations. The whole population must accept limitless diminution of their (former) liberties on the basis that they might be sick and could pose a “threat” to “their fellow humans.”

There is no end to this, once the principle of presumption is accepted. This whole business is diabolically clever in the way it has weaponized fear, demoralized people and turned so many of of them into people who are not only desperate to signal their misplaced virtue by bending knee to arbitrary authority – but demand we all bend knee to it.

Solzhenitsyn wrote about this – warned about this – that most people won’t do evil things unless they can be convinced that evil things are good things. As in, it’s a good thing to deport the Kulaks. It is also worth noting that the German Nazis regarded Jews and other enemies of the regime as a biological threat to the regime; as bacilli that had to be exterminated in the name of hygiene.

Of course, most people have never read Solzhenitsyn – and the only thing they know about Nazis is the cartoonish image of goose-stepping stormtroopers and that they were “racists.”

They may soon get a refresher course in both.

It is critically important that Fear Masking be curb stomped – for reasons of mental hygiene. If this becomes the “new normal” America is over. It cannot be over-emphasized. The theater is designed to condition the populace to accept insanity – and tyranny.

It’s time to get sick, all right.

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Craven Warrior
Craven Warrior
May 22, 2020 12:30 pm

Excellent article. I refuse to wear a mask, even no longer going to the grocery store that I have used for years because they require a mask. It’s a tiny inconvenience.

You made some very pertinent points and I will share this article with many people. What they think about it is out of my hands.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Craven Warrior
May 22, 2020 11:57 pm

You just need a different kind of mask.
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BUCKHED
BUCKHED
May 22, 2020 12:31 pm

Mencken said that the people know what they want….and deserve to get it good and hard . Well folks you wanted a totalitarian state….it’s on the way soon enough . Enjoy your chains. Buy more ammo .

gman
gman
  BUCKHED
May 22, 2020 2:20 pm

“Enjoy your chains. Buy more ammo .”

or “buy more ammo. enjoy your chains.” either one.

gman
gman
  gman
May 22, 2020 7:16 pm

(looking at the downvotes) or just be unhappy, I guess.

James
James
  BUCKHED
May 22, 2020 6:32 pm

Buck me favorite Mencken saying was”Some times you want to spit on your hands/Raise the black flag?And start slitting throats”.

gman
gman
  James
May 22, 2020 8:18 pm

”Some times you want to spit on your hands/Raise the black flag?And start slitting throats”

some people want that all the time.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  gman
May 23, 2020 5:44 am

Are you one of them? Because in virtually every post there is a simmering hostility, and it never abates.

Your words are always dripping with the kind of sardonic edge that demonstrates just how much better you are than the people you just can’t seem to stay away from. If the company is so difficult for you to bear, why are you here? I’ve asked a dozen times without a single response- telling in its own way- but for purposes of clarity it would be helpful to understand.

Freddy Uranus
Freddy Uranus
  Hardscrabble Farmer
May 23, 2020 7:04 am

He’s a Drive by Troll. The internet is loaded with them. Posts meaningless, inane bullshit. Do what I do. When I see his postings I just scroll past without reading. Makes life much simpler.

gman
gman
  Freddy Uranus
May 23, 2020 8:07 pm

“When I see his postings I just scroll past without reading.”

don’t forget to downvote on the way by.

RiNS
RiNS
  Hardscrabble Farmer
May 23, 2020 9:55 am

while not a Doctor of anything in particular, methinks him being here is used by him as a balm to soothe what appears to be a malignant outgrowth on a persistent narcissistic personality disorder…

gman
gman
  RiNS
May 23, 2020 8:05 pm

“him being here is used by him as a balm to soothe what appears to be a malignant outgrowth on a persistent narcissistic personality disorder…”

sounds like projection.

gman
gman
  Hardscrabble Farmer
May 23, 2020 8:04 pm

“If the company is so difficult for you to bear, why are you here?”

do you think I’m here for you?

mark
mark
  Hardscrabble Farmer
May 23, 2020 9:03 pm

Hardscrabble Farmer,

Smugman reeks and stinks of troll sniper pompous attempts at mordacious humor. I suspect he is a lone sniper troll who is actually convinced of his superiority…while French kissing his mirror (chuckle) (laugh) (sigh).

He owns no real understanding of scripture…as multiple times with me he just collects and points scattered verses at you that align in his mind with a double barrel shotgun blast filled with double ought naught fraught ‘out of context’ theme pellets.

He also loves to nitpick and snipe at anyone to the right of his condescending wrongs.

When the SHTF…after the worst is over…if he survives (which I doubt)…he will come out of hiding and shoot all the wounded. When it is safe…and nothing will be really asked of him.

Flea nailed him hard and accurately a couple of times…I remember Flea calling many of his posts ‘mental masturbation’ as an accurate description. Flea eventually calls most troll blather mouths to account, as you have started to do with him.

I’m bored with his constant failed attempts to be ‘the man in the middle’ – he is sman – not gman – for SMUGMAN, and a complete failure at sardonic wit…but a success at dry, bitter, sneering and jeering ‘passive aggressive’ HOSTILITY.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
May 22, 2020 1:24 pm

Send lawyer’s , guns, and money, sang Warren Zevon.
Get guns, bullets, land and silver/gold. Water will be useful too.
Times are tough today, but it’s just a warm up for what is yet happen.
Steel my Soldiers Souls, wrote David Hackworth.
Y’all better do the same.
Good luck and keep the faith, we’ll need it.

gman
gman
  Saxons Wrath
May 22, 2020 2:21 pm

“Water will be useful too.”

uh … shouldn’t that go with the land?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  gman
May 22, 2020 4:22 pm

Yeah, lots of it in the Mohave.

gman
gman
  Anonymous
May 22, 2020 7:20 pm

in some places there is, yeah. some nice remote spots out there, great bugouts if you don’t mind being totally isolated and trapped afterwards, or if you don’t mind being assaulted by 200 motorhomes stuffed with refugees who know they have take your spot if they want to live.

gman
gman
  gman
May 22, 2020 8:19 pm

(looking at the downvotes) guess you don’t mind.

gman
gman
  gman
May 22, 2020 7:17 pm

(looking at the downvotes) … ?

Coronald McDonald
Coronald McDonald
May 22, 2020 1:30 pm

“So often people just disappear because of something they are in disagreement with and we never know why. It’s good to have clarity. For everyone’s sake. Good luck on your journey.”

I “get” it when I read these words in context of a pastor discussing members leaving. However, read at face value I find these same words pretty chilling / threatening. Last sentence may be uttered in another context just as they slam shut the boxcar door…

gman
gman
  Coronald McDonald
May 22, 2020 2:22 pm

“slam shut the boxcar door…”

by the time they’re doing that, will the trains be running?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  gman
May 22, 2020 3:27 pm

I don’t know.
Will you be the engineer or conductor? I’ve intimated as much to other people and the response was “yeah”, or “whatever”, as if that could never happen in the Good Old US of A.
People have a severe misunderstanding of history and human nature that goes barely beyond their own noses.

gman
gman
  Anonymous
May 22, 2020 7:25 pm

“People have a severe misunderstanding of history and human nature that goes barely beyond their own noses.”

as one of the american revolutionaries said, “I study warfare and diplomacy so my children can study science and engineering so their children can study painting and music.” and they succeeded.

“Will you be the engineer or conductor?”

I hope to keep those trains from running. but to equate masks with nazis and gulags is ridiculous. some people here do equate them, and have stated on this board their intention to mass-murder many people (who of course never are people but are thought of as sheep, idiots, murderers, thugs, losers, etc) first chance they get – and they were not shouted down but rather passively agreed with. the engineers and conductors of such trains are much more likely to be people like the ones on this board, not the pastor described in the article.

gman
gman
  gman
May 22, 2020 8:24 pm

(looking at the downvotes) oh that’s right, I forgot, you guys don’t need trains, you’ll just do the job where you find it.

The Cold Backhand of God
The Cold Backhand of God
  Coronald McDonald
May 22, 2020 2:54 pm

The author of the letters is lucky to be rid of those stupid fools. Luckily, for him, he’s had what’s called an epiphany. This masking effort by authorities and the fear reaction it precipitated reeks of mass OCD behavior. The author realized it was time for him to move on spiritually.
I say good for him. He isn’t alone.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  The Cold Backhand of God
May 22, 2020 5:49 pm

No, he’s not alone. Not by a long shot.

gman
gman
  grace country pastor
May 22, 2020 8:31 pm

the saying in tennessee was that if you could see the smoke of your neighbor’s campfire he was too close (the statist!). so he may want to maintain a long shot distance between himself and the True Individuals ….

gman
gman
  gman
May 23, 2020 12:06 am

(looking at the downvotes) or maybe a longer distance than that ….

gman
gman
  The Cold Backhand of God
May 22, 2020 7:33 pm

“He isn’t alone.”

… but isn’t that exactly what he moved on to being? alone?

gman
gman
  gman
May 22, 2020 8:27 pm

(looking at the downvotes) oh I get it, he’s not alone, he’s joined the mutual support group of True Individuals.

The Cold Backhand of God
The Cold Backhand of God
  gman
May 23, 2020 9:41 am

The author isn’t alone.
Obviously a LOT of people feel – or felt – the same way but didn’t take the effort to bother with a fool pastor as he did. The Holy Spirit moved his conscience as it does in many people. Given your remarks you haven’t figured that out.

really sincere eyebrows
really sincere eyebrows
May 22, 2020 1:30 pm

I don’t normally wear a mask in public because I have asthma and cannot get enough air while wearing one, to that end, I was in a major grocery store and with springtime allergies I could not stifle a sneeze, so I sneezed into my elbow-at that moment it was as if time had stopped, every person near me turned in horror to glare at me with their “burn the witch” expressions, if I had been a more cowardly person I would have left my cart and run out of the store. This was a telling example of how most people have been frightened into believing a mask could protect them.

Lahgs
Lahgs
  really sincere eyebrows
May 22, 2020 10:41 pm

Hah! RSE, if you’da thunk it at the time, the verbal response to everyone’s horror at your sneeze would’ve been: “Damn. I’ve been feeling kinda woozy since I returned from that China business trip.”

They would’ve ran away from you like cockroaches in room when the light is turned on.

The line 6 people deep and six feet apart would have dwindled to NOBODY, and you would’ve breezed through the checkout in no time flat, like the days of yore, pre-Covid-19-catch phrases of bullshit.
Provided, that the cashier didn’t freak out and shit himself or herself at your Wuhan proclamation.

I stopped in a Meijer for the first time since December, just a Saturday morning ago.
Phock me. Spaced 6 feet apart, in the SELF checkout aisle. Took me 30 minutes to clear it and GTF out.
The slow inconsiderate pricks ahead of me were moving like they were stoned.
Then, the self checkout overseer had to follow behind, and wipe down everything the lumpen masked surgeons wore when they processed their bags of essentials.

I grew a fucking beard in the time it took to wait my turn.
Madness.
Hysteria.
Over-reaction, due to an agenda.
By someone on high, calling the shots.
Round these parts, we all know pretty much WHO is behind the narrative push.

Pareto, yet again.
Maybe 20% get the propaganda.
The other 80% are all in; hook, line and sinker.
Morons.

As for EP’s article about the member of the faith, Rave on, Chris. Rave on.
Treat us all like lepers?
Go to hell then.
I’ll take my business elsewhere.
And my prayers and good will are best manifested in my own little circle of sane friends and family.

To the pastor, I would have retorted, “and to you too, Sir. Good luck with YOUR journey.”

gman
gman
  Lahgs
May 22, 2020 10:59 pm

“And my prayers and good will are best manifested in my own little circle of sane friends and family.”

“43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may [a]be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? 48 Therefore [b]you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” matt 5:43-48

gman
gman
  gman
May 23, 2020 12:07 am

(looking at the downvotes) downvoting the bible! heretics!

jacklord66
jacklord66
May 22, 2020 1:54 pm

Although I’m in a foreign country now, where wearing masks is not uncommon when the air gets bad, I’m not wearing one. I should just go with the flow and wear one, but I won’t. Masks are an affront and actually harmful. Having said that, I haven’t gotten any grief over it. Many of the locals can be seen without them, as well.

jacklord66
jacklord66
  jacklord66
May 22, 2020 2:27 pm

Wow, a downvote. If you have such a hard-on for masks, then why did you even touch the article? Oh, wait. I know why.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  jacklord66
May 22, 2020 10:54 pm

Jackson, it’s the same mind set of down votes that Craven Warrior got in the 1st comment.
These dicks are self righteous in their demand that you ought to comply just like everybody else.
Sheep-trolls who visit the blog, and buy into the mind fuckery.

I know a health nutritionist / chiropractor who refused to get his kids vaccinated.
The other parents in the school bitched about him and the supposed risk his kids posed to other’s kids.

He responded with a couple questions…
-Did your kid get the vaccine?

“Why, yes. Of course.”

-Well then, your kid is now immune from the threat, so WTF are you worried about?

Think about that, for a minute.
IF THEY REFUSE TO ALLOW US TO FUNCTION WITH NORMAL EVERYDAY ACTIVITIES UNLESS WE CAN PROVE WE’VE BEEN VACCINATED WITH THEIR VACCINATION FOR COVID, WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT TELL YOU ABOUT STATISM, CONTROL, AND LOSS / EXCLUSION OF INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS?

All, in the self righteous proclamation of saving lives.
UFBS.
Utter, fucking bull shit.

gman
gman
May 22, 2020 2:18 pm

“to do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he is doing is good”

and the easiest and quickest way to believe that what you are doing is good is to so define it. “I am, and there is none beside me.” like a lot of you guys. “I’m smart and wise and right, and those ten thousand others are mindless sheep (meaning Not Me) who get on my nerves.”

The Cold Backhand of God
The Cold Backhand of God
  gman
May 22, 2020 3:14 pm

So you think the public’s general reaction to the official line of consistently inconsistent FUD is normal behavior and a rational, reasoned objection is somehow wrong?
The pastor admits losing his own congregation, many for unknown reasons. I think he’s a liar and a fool who knows exactly why people left, but he he didn’t care. I was baptized as Presbyterian but in this day and age, I’d never consider stepping into the contemporary pit of degeneracy organized religion has become.

gman
gman
  The Cold Backhand of God
May 22, 2020 7:51 pm

“So you think … a rational, reasoned objection is somehow wrong?”

not at all. but I don’t see a rational reasoned objection in the article, I just see overblown self-centeredness.

look, there’s three problems here. one, there is no plague as such and everyone is starting to notice. if there were a real plague no-one would have any problem with masks – least of all some of the people on this board, they’d probably shoot anyone not wearing them and claim self defense. two, there are elements in our co-opted government that are using this as an opportunity to push for more control. that’s clear and everyone sees it.

and problem number 3 is, that guys like the writer don’t differentiate between wearing masks and nazi gulags. because for them there is no difference. because their attitude is, “Me. And don’t affect me.”

and between these three, I don’t know which is worse.

“The pastor admits losing his own congregation, many for unknown reasons.”

oh pastors are always losing congregants. my own church lost 1/3 of the congregation over finances and another tenth over a halloween party and another ten of the largest families because it wouldn’t teach against birth control. now this guy is leaving his church over masks, over a mask! geez, there’s no limit. but it’s part and parcel of protestantism, deal with it.

“I think he’s a liar and a fool”

jesus said never to call anyone a fool. when I stopped doing that I learned an awful lot, I recommend it to everyone.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  gman
May 23, 2020 1:35 am

Did you still consider them foolish?

gman
gman
  messianicdruid
May 23, 2020 8:02 pm

“Did you still consider them foolish?”

not at all. when you get over your own unthinkingly superior attitude and stop dismissing people as “foolish” and instead take seriously what they say, you realize that no-one is foolish, that they all have their motivations and their reasons and their logic for it all. for the first time, you understand them. they may be evil, they may be lying (to you or to themselves), they may be mistaken or ignorant, they may have motivations you don’t quite get, or any number of other things (including being right!), but they’re not foolish. you realize what they are and where they stand, and in turn better understand what you are and where you stand, and why for both. and defensiveness and ad-hominem attacks, both by yourself and against yourself, are left behind. they’re just pointless and irrelevant.

sometimes it’s not pretty when you finally see what people actually mean, and sometimes it’s not fun when you address what people actually are doing and they get so very very angry at being seen. but the clarity is awesome.

bigfoot
bigfoot
  gman
May 22, 2020 5:42 pm

Reason and rightness is not at all about claiming “smart and wise,” though anyone can easily observe “mindless sheep,” even you whether smart and wise.

gman
gman
  bigfoot
May 22, 2020 7:56 pm

“Reason and rightness is not at all about claiming ‘smart and wise'”

completely agree. but a lot of people here don’t, and get mad when you point it out.

gman
gman
  gman
May 23, 2020 12:08 am

(looking at the downvotes) see?

Ginger
Ginger
May 22, 2020 3:46 pm

It all boils down to a church’s Section 501(c)(3) status, can not afford to loose that. Most churchs have it, so they are connected to the government because of money. When is the last time one heard a real sermon on sin.
In the Bible Book of Titus, Paul warns of “religious” leaders and “filty lucre”.
See Titus 1, Part of which says Verse 11:
“Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake.”

gman
gman
  Ginger
May 22, 2020 7:59 pm

“When is the last time one heard a real sermon on sin.”

never. not once. 46 years a christian, not a single one.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  gman
May 22, 2020 11:54 pm
gman
gman
  Iska Waran
May 22, 2020 11:58 pm

thanks, sorry, can’t see it.

been reading through the prophets though (jeremiah ezekiel hosea etc), that’s some pretty harsh stuff. ‘specially zeke.

gman
gman
  gman
May 23, 2020 12:10 am

(looking at the downvotes) I suppose those could be sermons on sin ….

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  Ginger
May 23, 2020 1:39 am

You might hear something about “missing the mark” or “avoiding evil” but I’m still waiting for a sermon that mentions “Sin is the transgression of the law.” 1John 3:4

Ginger
Ginger
  messianicdruid
May 23, 2020 7:11 am

Great chapter. Until one recognizes that they are a sinner, one can not realize they need a Saviour, that being Jesus Christ, not only for all the sin gathered before in life, but the daily cleansing. Earlier in 1 John 7-10 it was written:
“But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”

People still continue to sin or miss the mark as you said, so it would be good to remind congregations, but the new trend seems to be not to make people uneasy, and leave with their money. Ignoring what would be a sin is probably the most dangerous thing a congregation can do.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  Ginger
May 23, 2020 8:12 am

Worse, in my mind, is the tendency to redefine sin denominationally. What ever our little [ or huge schism ] happens to hold dear.

Smorgasbord Religion – following other g-o-d-s [ rulemakers ] exclusively, or just mixing it up with whatever suits OUR idea of right and wrong, good or bad. Chaos, in other words.

gman
gman
  messianicdruid
May 23, 2020 8:21 pm

it’s the protestant way.

Montefrío
Montefrío
May 22, 2020 4:57 pm

We are now “obliged” to wear the masks to go into our three general stores. The idea here is you have it hanging around your neck and that’s good enough for government work. Public displays of handshaking and cheek-kissing are now practiced by we the “rebels”. In my small Argentine village, people aren’t particularly angry yet; the trend is to just laugh it off as overkill.

Jaz
Jaz
May 22, 2020 6:28 pm

I’m disturbed at how little resistance (especially at the onset) the masses offered. However, I should not be shocked,the masses have followed the cult of Govt, and organized religions blindly for eons.

The don’t necessarily even really think about following, they just do it out of programming. If they spent any time rationalizing the whole scenario we would not even be having this conversation.

When we add the dumbing down of the masses through our ‘education system’ tainted food , water, psychotropic drugs, intellectual dishonesty and intellectual laziness – viola, here we are.
Can we have a an upward shift in consciousness that is sorely needed. I can’t see how we get there from here.

There is likely going to have to be a lot more pain, suffering and violence before things improve.

gman
gman
  Jaz
May 22, 2020 8:02 pm

“I’m disturbed at how little resistance (especially at the onset) the masses offered.”

how little the masses offered? how little the MASSES offered? some on this blog were cheerleading it all the way! “THIS IS THE BIG ONE!”

Two Nasty Traits Of This Coronavirus, Typically Not Seen Together

gman
gman
  gman
May 22, 2020 9:49 pm

“No, you literally do not understand any of this at all, and are completely wrong about it on every level.” heh.

How Many Cases Of Covid-19 Will It Take For You To Decide Not To Frequent Public Places?

gman
gman
  gman
May 23, 2020 8:23 pm

(looking at the downvotes) guess I still don’t understand any of it at all and am completely wrong on every level.

(predicted that too, can’t be bothered to look it up and post it)

MathMan
MathMan
  gman
May 22, 2020 10:10 pm

Dang! Nicely done!

RayK
RayK
May 23, 2020 6:02 am

So, how do all you warriors know when you’re an asymptomatic carrier and spreading your infection?

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  RayK
May 23, 2020 6:23 am

We don’t, we simply accept the risks inherent in life.

If we sought to protect all people all of the time life would become a prison and you know how safe and pleasant they are to live in.

Viruses are integral to our species, they serve a purpose. You probably haven’t even considered that because you don’t really understand how life works. Most people don’t. In fact 98% of the people in this country don’t even provide the food that they eat daily, they live like giant babies waiting to be fed. I can see why so many are terrified of life, having never really lived.

And here’s the thing- you’re still going to die. Why not live until then?

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
  Hardscrabble Farmer
May 23, 2020 10:22 am

“Don’t be so afraid of death that you forget how to live.”

This viral scare has achieved far more than what Osama bin Laden could ever do. He was one man, but the threat and ideology he represented could be contained, even killed. The “experts” have people convinced the virus is unseen, pervasive, and even believing no one is ever immune and everyone is a potential viral “terrorist”.
It’s a brilliantly disruptive plan that’s increased the power and control of the government with the consent of a divided people. Even Bin Laden couldn’t achieve what’s been done and we have our own government to thank for it.

Karl
Karl
  RayK
May 23, 2020 8:54 am

Most of the posters on this board hate the people around them and hope they will die, or, just go away.
If these posters are sick with the virus, they want to infect as many people as they can.
The chance that they are unknowingly sick and not wearing a mask offers them a chance to infect others.
And, they ignore the fact that a good M95 mask offers them some protection from the chance that others will infect them. Limited, but better than nothing.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Karl
May 23, 2020 9:08 am

Stop it Karl.

No one hates old people because they won’t participate in a mass delusion.

You’ve lost your bearings due to stress and anxiety and it is understandable, but hyperbole isn’t the solution.

We aren’t going to wear masks because we make our own decisions about our own lives and you are likewise free to make your own. If you are living in such a constant state of fear then by all means, stay at home, sanitize your mail, wear a mask or MOPP gear, build a bunker like other normal survivalist types, but stop trying to shame people into indulging your delusions, it isn’t working.

Karl
Karl
  Hardscrabble Farmer
May 23, 2020 12:25 pm

You are willing to kill people if you get infected , but, show no symptoms. Unmasked, your effluvia will spread to the community .You seem to be educated, so, you can only be evil or totally amoral.
And you whine about your rights to walk around and infect people.

Karl
Karl
  Administrator
May 23, 2020 1:33 pm

Ask Boris johnson ( uk pm ) how that out in public thing worked out for him.

Long Time Lurker
Long Time Lurker
  Karl
May 23, 2020 2:22 pm

Fuck, OK KAREN. Boris got SICK. Boris got BETTER. WTF, stooooopist argument EVER. Fact – I personally know two people here in the Seattle area that had the beer flu enough to be hospitalized, a friends wife who has lupus, she had a slow, but successful recovery. Another friend (fellow musician) that got it bad, they induced coma, put him on a ventilator, took him off the ventilator. He is still in a coma 7 weeks running. Here’s the rub- My band had a gig with this persons band on March 22nd. It was a crowded bar with us all singing into shared mics and typical loud mouth drunk spit talkers present. A bunch of us got REALLY sick in the days following, and all recovered just fine. The friend still in a coma is 58, very overweight and diabetic. It is bad, but not KARL KAREN bad. sheez SMDH.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Karl
May 23, 2020 2:47 pm

Karl en?
So, is Karl the name we’re going with for a male Karen?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Karl
May 23, 2020 3:32 pm

I’m evil and amoral, totally nailed it.

You are as good a judge of character as you are a rational thinker.

Karl
Karl
  Administrator
May 23, 2020 12:29 pm

When an unmasked , infected person infects you, I will consider it a ‘ let god sort it out ‘ situation. And, I may smile.

Long Time Lurker
Long Time Lurker
  Karl
May 23, 2020 2:24 pm

Fuck, OK KAREN. Fact – I personally know two people here in the Seattle area that had the beer flu enough to be hospitalized, a friends wife who has lupus, she had a slow, but successful recovery. Another friend (fellow musician) that got it bad, they induced coma, put him on a ventilator, took him off the ventilator. He is still in a coma 7 weeks running. Here’s the rub- My band had a gig with this persons band on March 22nd. It was a crowded bar with us all singing into shared mics and typical loud mouth drunk spit talkers present. A bunch of us got REALLY sick in the days following, and all recovered just fine. The friend still in a coma is 58, very overweight and diabetic. It is bad, but not KARL KAREN bad. sheez SMDH.

The fact you typed this “When an unmasked , infected person infects you, I will consider it a ‘ let god sort it out ‘ situation. And, I may smile.” Indicates the scum you are, and a KAREN SHEEPLE LOSER. Quivering in fear while basking in schadenfreude over another’s demise.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Karl
May 23, 2020 2:50 pm

After claiming that people who resist wearing masks are doing so with the intent to infect and kill people, you then follow that up with your own stated desire to see people here get infected and die, and this will make you smile.

You’re a sick fucker.

American Hong Kong (EC)
American Hong Kong (EC)
  Administrator
May 23, 2020 9:22 pm

Admin moonlighting as matchmaker.

gman
gman
  Karl
May 23, 2020 8:28 pm

“Most of the posters on this board hate the people around them and hope they will die, or, just go away.”

pretty much. some of them proclaim it directly, some of them sideways threaten it, some of them hint at it, some of them say things that sound reasonable but if you put it all together yeah they look forward to everyone else just disappearing one way or another. and lots of them have 10,000 cartridges of ammunition and openly anticipate helping that process along, yep.

mark
mark
  gman
May 23, 2020 11:48 pm

1.6 BILLION ROUNDS OF AMMO FOR HOMELAND SECURITY? IT’S TIME FOR A NATIONAL CONVERSATION

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/03/11/1-6-billion-rounds-of-ammo-for-homeland-security-its-time-for-a-national-conversation/#269e9b2f624b

Hey asshat smugman…the link above is from 2013…too late for the ‘national conversation’, but a national firefight is more than possible…coming at U.S. at WARP SPEED???

By now they have 3 or 4 billion ‘cartridges of ammunition’. Cartridges of ammunition you gotta be a Soy Boy with blue hair (snort).

Don’t let the door hit you on the asshat on the way out.

KaD
KaD
May 23, 2020 8:17 pm

About ten minutes before my appointment today my salon called and said masks must be worn. I did it this ONCE and told them I won’t set foot in the place again until they come to their senses. I will not comply.

American Hong Kong (EC)
American Hong Kong (EC)
May 23, 2020 9:01 pm

Eventually, we shall all get used to the ‘new normal’ – staying indoors. Businesses will be forced to require masks and social distancing. There go the impulse shoppers and diners and movie-goers. So, the question for Wippers is – What actions would you take to change American society to conform with Chinese communism? It’s kind of a backwards question, the point is that we might be missing the big picture. Perhaps this is all an exercise to force a change on American consumerism, in preparation for American slavery. Why not? We owe so much to China, it was time to collect.