Guest Post by Jim Kunstler
Nothing moves and nothing wants to move, or even think about moving, under the punishing heat-dome. For the moment, the sore beset nation stews in a dreadful stillness. The mysterious consensus of the BLM mob has hit the “pause” button on street tantrums, though plenty of damage has been done to businesses, personal lives, undefended monuments, and the public interest. Each day is another frightful step in the creep toward mass default as rents, mortgages, car loans, insurance premiums, electric bills, business debts, and other common obligations go unpaid. It’s like one of those eerie interludes on a battlefield when forces stop to gather their wounded and reassess their positions.
Perhaps you, like me, are skeptical of the news reports about the surge in Covid-19 cases — or, more to the point, what it actually means. Cases may be surging, but deaths are way down. Media megaphones such as CNN and The New York Times eagerly retail maximum hysteria to provoke renewed business lock-downs, ensuring further destruction to the old service economy and, more importantly, to disparage Mr. Trump. I wonder if the virus is, in fact, close to burning itself out and the surge in cases signifies that it will soon run out of new victims. How many asymptomatic carriers are out there? We just don’t know, but by August we’ll have an idea.
It’s certainly in the interest of the Woke Resistance and its inquisitors in the Woke media to keep the volume up on Covid-19 hysteria. It’s crucial to their strategy of forcing a vote-by-mail system that would easily invite voter fraud. It also provides a cover for keeping their mummified lead candidate, Joe Biden, moldering silently in his basement like the ghost of Hubert Humphrey, as well as an excuse to avoid a real convention in Milwaukee, which would force Mr. Biden to step up and speak before a huge, live audience. Imagine the mortification.
Just as I’m unconvinced about the meaning of the Covid-19 surge, I don’t buy the polls that show Mr. Biden ten points up on Mr. Trump. I suspect many actual voters were not pleased by the June reign of terror unleashed by Democratic mayors and governors, and did not fail to notice exactly how all that went down. And it is well-known now, four years after the last election and its janky polling, that many voters won’t reveal their true intentions to pollsters — fearing the vilification they’d invite.
I’ve gotten a lot of letters and comments lately condemning my failure to go all-out against Mr. Trump. So, I’ll state my current position plainly: I didn’t vote for him last time, but I would vote for him this time to keep the Democratic Party out of power. There’s a lot to not love about Mr. Trump in his persona and manner. There’s a great deal more to fear about the prospect of Democratic Party control of government. Their enmity to free speech cannot be doubted after a decade of promoting cancel culture. Their appetite for coercion is at odds with the Bill of Rights. Their bad faith and dishonesty have been on display through all the concocted melodramas of RussiaGate and its offshoots. Their economic program is a mashup of all the failed central planning regimes from the bygone 20th century and is wholly inconsistent with the new imperatives to downscale and re-localize the real productive activities of daily life in this country.
Beyond Mr. Trump’s deformities of personal presentation, I am more in favor with the blunt outlines of his policies. I’m for strict control of the nations borders and frankly for reduced immigration. Globalism is clearly winding down and Mr. Trump’s drive to produce more of what we need here in America is in step with that reality. Mr. Trump has been careful to avoid new foreign misadventures — though the military establishment and their pals in the war industries have obstructed the president’s will to quit the old adventures still being prosecuted in places across the Middle East and West Asia. I suspect Mr. Trump might have accomplished more in the nation’s interest if he hadn’t been hounded, harried, and sabotaged by the ceaseless bad faith hostilities of his opponents since Nov 3, 2016.
I’m not confident about Mr. Trump’s management of the nation’s financial quandaries, and especially the racking-up of epic new debt, but there’s plenty of evidence that the Democratic Party would do a lot worse in terms of spending money that doesn’t exist and destroying what’s left of the country’s productive capacity, along with what remains of the middle class. I believe anybody who has managed to stay sane through the travails of the past four years cannot fail to see that the clinically incompetent Joe Biden is an obvious stalking horse for something more sinister. I think we will learn what that is before much longer.
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I had to read Kunstler’s article twice because the first time through I though I read that he was voting for Trump. Son of a bitch, the second read confirmed it.
When old-time D’s like Kunstler are so fed up with their former party that they fear it far more than Trump, I sense a Trump victory is on the horizon. We all better stock up on earplugs because if Trump wins in November the bellyaching will be intense. Plus, Trudeau better budget some money for a wall because he is going to need a tall one to keep all the US blues from trying to escape.
Dude, unless Big Mike 2020, I said before that Trump is a lock. Even those idiot Democrat lawyers in STL will vote for him. The irony is that their stupidity is what caused the mess that led to a Trump certainty.
It also led Trump to spewing and promoting himself to the presidency in the first place. Irony is a polite description.
Big Mike is a felon. I guess you can keep saying it but it isn’t going to happen.
Can you provide the link to the actual case and adjudication? I’ve asked for it several times from different people and am not a lawyer, so knowing where to look and in what jurisdiction is out of my league. Sounds to me like a hearsay editorial. I’m hoping with how many blood-suckers we have in this country that they would have paid someone to build a responsive UI hooked into a data lake that has all of this.
I’m also going to set aside the fact that we have no rule of law anymore, so it’s not like it will matter. Liberals could shit house their way around anything.
It’s on the server of the Illinois State Bar Association. If you can find a member in good standing they can show you. The attorney who showed me no longer practices in Illinois.
She participated with her clients in an insurance fraud. She lied to the judge in court. She was given the choice of surrendering her license or face felony charges. Valerie Jarret got her a job as “Diversity Director” at a Chicago hospital for $300K+ per year. The Obamas still claimed to be paying student loans when he ran for office even with nearly $400K per annum income.
I thought she surrendered her license, hence she is not a felon. I agree it’s shit house, but that’s my understanding of it.
Technically correct. An unconvicted felon but it is all there in the records. She is a documented swindler and disgraced attorney who participated in a crime and attempted to mislead a court. It was good practice for the big leagues. I know guys who merely fudged around the edges who were disbarred. She should have done time and been disbarred, but this is Shitcago.
Abso-fucking-lutely. But she isn’t a felon and the Obamas are Teflon. There is zero doubt in my mind that people would latch onto Big Mike as a racial peacemaker, the trans-partner of someone who inherited Covid, and a welcome respite from a Twitter addict.
You know I’m right. It’s a matter of whether s/he will rise in on her pale err uhh white horse.
There are many accusations about the Obama’s and their ‘law licenses’ or lack thereof. Both of them ‘voluntarily’ withdrew/surrendered their licenses. Obama worked for a CIA front organization Business International Corporation (BI) “was a publishing and advisory firm dedicated to assisting American companies in operating abroad. It was founded in 1953. It organized conferences, and worked with major corporations. It has ties to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Former president Barack Obama worked there as a financial researcher after graduating from Columbia University. In 1986, Business International was acquired by the Economist Group in London, and it eventually merged with the Economist Intelligence Unit.”
If you look at the story line (chronology) for Obama’s wondrous appearance on the political stage you get some real interesting links and connections, most of them revolving around race, race baiting and creating racial strife.
Michelle isn’t smart enough to be a lawyer and her artificial construct/creation of a husband would be lost without his teleprompter. They were a ‘made for TV’ couple and that they do really well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_International_Corporation
The thing is, no one surrenders such a license “just because” unless you believe $95 to renew is a staggering burden right up there with minorities unable to access ID cards. If you do not renew your license you have to sit for the bar exam again which costs hundreds and takes at least two days. It cannot pass the smell test.
You’re using reason and logic and presuming that 90% of this country would care one iota if presented with a choice between the Anointed Androgyne and Orange Man. It wouldn’t matter. Big Mike would beat any contender in 2020 like a drum.
Yeah, agreed but Big Mike is a lazy ass and living large without having to do squat. Why give up what ‘she’ already has? Unlike Hillary, ol’ Mike isn’t a power mad psycho, she’s truly not smart enough for that.
The Obamas are a lot of things but it takes intelligence to pull off the stunts in which they’ve been involved. They had Trump completely incapacitated for 4 years. That is an amazing feat.
If I decide to write in this year, it’ll be a vote that Americans deserve. Not joking. If we’re going to conduct ourselves laughably OCONUS and CONUS, we may as well do it with a smile on our faces.
Whatever “Election” numbers they give us, will be fake … Dem and Repub. The “Election” result will be/is fought out and determined strictly behind the scenes by, seemingly I think, factions of the Deep State vs. the MIC. Whoever cheats the best, or last, will “win.” I’ve said for many months now, nah years, the Dems are not going to let this one go. Trump and Co. better have an iron clad plan/process in place to overcome the Dem vote fraud//cheating. If they don’t, the R’s have no chance. 2018 Mid-terms demonstrated that.
If Trump does not ‘drop the MOAB’ on these cockroaches soon, he will lose.
“I’m talking to the person inside Jim Kunstler…what is your name? And don’t say “Legion.”
If you havent figured out even yet that Trump (who the H is perfect?) is the only hope we have against a massive Maolike takeover of America to protect the wealth of the superduper Globalist rich, you are with the darkness.
Assuming he’s a New York resident, who cares who he votes for? I live very near him and Cuomo is largely detested by the people in upstate but the brain dead Dummos in NYC will vote for Biden or whatever other shithead they run. Cuomo killed dozens of old people in nursing homes and he still has 80% support-if you can believe the polls.
Agreed, all of upstater’s despise the NYC democrap politics. Upstate NY is conservative, but our vote is useless against 8 million degeno-rats in NYC, who have already shown their colors in supporting that useless AOC idiot for re-election.
That alone shows you all you need to know.
The Limousine Liberal class will always vote for D, no matter how awful the results.
Is it impolite to ask what entity Cui Bono from the deaths of old people?
Only the Democrats censor Truth; it’s their Critical Theory: Constantly criticize the Right but never the Left.
Now that they are dead they will all vote reliably Dhimmicrat with mail-in ballots.
No, it’s not impolite but obvious to most of us. Cuomo benefitted in that his poll numbers improved over that time. Like all political hacks, Cuomo makes every decision based on what will affect his reelection chances no matter who suffers. He got away with making a terrible mistake putting those sick people in with the, now deceased old people. Apparently Fredo isn’t the only asshole in that family.
Enough deaths will balance the social security trust fund. You benefit if you’re younger than 50. Well, ‘benefit’ in the sense that you may get a SS check, no guarantees as to what it’ll buy.
“The State” benefits because it doesn’t have to pay out as many benefits, in multiple ways.
They needed a lot of dead people to support the hoax. Someone had to be sacrificed so that they could get the numbers they needed to justify dragging us into Great Depression 2.0 and all of the horrors that are coming with it.
Dozens … I think thousands.
Yes, I think you’re correct. NY was in the top 2 death totals.
Didn’t he get fed up and re-domicile in the sunshine state of Florida?
Pretty much sums up where I stand. If the dems gain full control of the federal government, the first act by Chucky will be to implement the nuclear option, ending any opposition to the dem agenda. We will then have to make a decision on whether we want to support and defend the Constitution or follow the dictates of the fascists in power.
As for me and my friends, we will support the Constitution (not the Communist).
If the D’s win, they will control the military through the CIC and it will be turned on “us.” That is all we’re actually playing for in Nov … control of the Military through the CIC. If the R’s win, there is a reasonable chance the military will at least remain neutral.
Just like the 1860’s, I suspect the military will split and a majority of them will side with the Constitution and the people over the politicians.
Look what a bunch of horse riding guys with old rifles have done in the sand box and then think about the 10 – 15 million people with “modern sporting rifles”, not to mention the high powered hunting rifles with owners who are accustomed to making 400 yd shots.
TN Patriot, There will not be any rules of engagement when the Dems gain control and direct the military against anyone on the Right. I’m not saying we can’t win some way but the military can do much better than they have been ‘allowed’ to since Vietnam.
All added up, US deer hunters would be the largest army in the world.
My next AR upper build is going to be a 24 or 26 inch heavy barrel, probably a 1/9 twist. That will get the better part of 3,500 fps out of M193 equivalents, close to 3,000 fps with the 69-77’s.
That would allow anyone resembling us old fuqueres to get up on a high spot, aim for the head and be dead on at 250 and hit in the chest at 400. In other words, aim without regards to range and score hits as fast as you can aim and pull the trigger. Very forgiving 0-400 yards. Aim a foot or two high and rain it down at 500 all over them.
Won’t stand up to a drone.
Yep…gonna have to shoot the drone operators…maybe at their home in the drivway or on their way to pick up their dry cleaning…or…well somewhere…
We’ll just dress up like Antifuques and burn the command center down. MyGirl has to be willing to dye her hair green or purple for us to pull it off though.
Ha…that was funny HR…she’ll do it for the cause, she’s a good sport.
Darlings I will indeed dye my hair for the cause, however, I expect you all to also don the camoflage as well….
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See HR I told you she was a good sport!
I’ll do my bit when TSHTF
I think you need to brush-up a little. Check out FPV for UAVs, easily obtained by all. Most people who fly these things already have the equipment. Also, not all of them use the “approved” frequency.
Anon,
All joking aside, I don’t personally know anyone more prepped, armed, or living in a more prepared defensible farm/compound then me, really.
The T-shirt is tongue in cheek…anyone who has been in extensive and continues grunt combat, of any war, and there are many here who have…have no illusions or delusions about war…civil or not.
That said, I have no illusions or delusion about what I can and cannot do (I am not tech savvy) or what will happen eventually depending upon the level of force, technology, and numbers brought against me.
That said buddy…SAT CONG.
Dont you think we should have been making that decision months ago before the banksters attacked and destroyed the economy, along with the illusion of freedom it allowed for in the past?
Doesn’t matter which “side” of government “wins”. Government itself, the bankers control mechanism, must be removed from the equation. Along with all the order followers it employs to make war against the people.
Mr. Kunstler: I find your position piece on Trump to be on the shallow side. The biggest tell is no mention of the decades of political hacks working in D.C. who have tried to destroy his Presidency. He has done more in three years than they have, put together, in the House or Senate. And he has done it with everyone not just nipping at his heels but shooting for his heart on a daily basis. They are desperate to get him out of office to the point where they will stop the global economy, and support their ChiCom benefactors to regain power.
Why can you not call it out simply, plainly? The people creating this mess, including our own politicians, and other enemies foreign and domestic, who want to destroy this country. You are a writer. If they get control, well, there goes your livelihood. And because you are of the intelligentsia, you neck will be on the line eventually. Because you are a threat with your writing abilities. Unless of course, you choose to work for them.
If you didn’t vote for him in 2016, I shudder to think who you did vote for. You had better wake up and realize that no man is perfect, especially a billionaire, but he knows how to run things and get things done, ahead of schedule and below budget, if given a helping hand and a chance. His greatest strength is that he is not a career politician. His greatest weakness is that he is not a career politician. You Sir, by your bio have never worked in a corporation, in big business, managed a profit & loss operation, hired and fired people. Trump gets things done. He takes risks. Sure he has failed but success encounters failure on the way to winning through learning.
He has dared to take unpopular stands around the world, especially with globalist institutions who used the U.S. as a piggy bank. And now with the election coming up, they are putting on a full court press to defeat him and usher in a Socialist agenda that Hillary would have continued after Barry. So instead of giving us your, “Position”, why don’t you go all out and stand up for President Trump and America. He is the best and only option for our future.
Hear, hear!!! Well said..Let us support what is possible over what is ideal…
Well said my friend
The Q-tard, “he’s the best we’ve got, “he’s done more in 3 years” crap is becoming a hard sell on TBP.
But knock yourself out.
http://dissident-mag.com/2020/07/10/how-political-outsider-donald-trump-and-roger-stone-worked-together-to-elect-george-w-bush/
http://dissident-mag.com/2020/07/13/how-trump-and-stone-used-al-sharpton-to-rig-2004-democratic-primary/
But hey, people can always point to the Trump drag queen administration’s quest to decriminalize faggotry around the globe as a righteous victory;
One of his many Zionist loving faults.
At the moment he’s got 30 comments here and 150 on his site, probably 600 by tomorrow. Mostly formerly(?) Liburul, like him. He’s writing for them, not us. We’re slightly to the right of Mao, so we’re the already-convinced Extreme Far Right.
You forgot to mention that Roy Cohn was Trump’s mentor. He was on the phone with Roy every day.
It makes my skin crawl, but here goes;
That is a horror, Winnie.
You forgot to mention that Roy Cohn was Trump’s mentor. He was on the phone with Roy every day.
Umm, Cohen was Trump and Murdoch’s lawyer. He wasn’t a ‘mentor’ except perhaps in the hit piece created by Tyrnauer. As to their being on the phone everyday, well, generally, if there are legal cases being tried then yes, it would make sense for lawyers to communicate with clients. Endeavoring to make that into something wicked and bad….well….Unverified innuendo is dishonest, even for a dyed-in-the-wool Trump basher.
As to Cohen, well, he was a ball buster, didn’t take shit from anybody, lived life on his terms and died owing the IRS several millions. He also worked with McCarthy to out communists and that, of course, offends certain sensibilities no end. He was rude, profane and didn’t bow to the political structure and powers of the day so, of course, they went after him with a vengeance. He was amoral, criminal and he fought tooth and nail for his clients. Better him for a lawyer than some cuck.
Joseph De Burca says mentor.
Whitney Webb says Mentor.
By Golly, your sources? Two finer examples of the muckrakers art would be harder to find. So, did Roy mentor Trump like Bill Ayers mentored Obama?
So slander and ridicule Whitney Webb and then change the topic to Bill ayers and Obama as if that’s related.
Way to go Saul.
Pitiful.
You’re not too bright so I will type s l o w l y…….when you make innuendos you are slandering without offering proof of wrongdoing. Is mentoring wrong? Obama was mentored by Ayers, is that wrong? Was Trump actually mentored by Cohn? What do you think mentoring means?
Whitney is a never-Trumper, ditto for her stance on Israel, which in your book makes her valid. She has an agenda and therefore is not reliable as an impartial writer.
No bias in your life, is there? Now, take some time and actually READ Rules for Radicals before you hang your ass out further.
I read them you fukin dope. You’re retorts only confirm your stupidity.
This will be the last time I respond to you. You cannot refute what I just wrote, you make no attempt to do so. I daresay you are not capable of doing so, so, once again you hang your ass out and have to resort to name calling because you lack a cogent response to my assertions.
You are like a child rolling on the floor and screaming because an adult is thwarting his temper tantrum and he lacks the ability to respond coherently.
You’re the one who can’t refute anything. Typical alinsky tactic of accusing me of what you are doing. Piss off.
Well, now where are you on Biden? Crickets? lots of Trump bashing and not one whiff of a hint of a Biden bash? Now why is that? Are the Trump bashers hoping for a Biden win? They sure act like they do.
He does need to keep it short enough for busy people to read between the comments 🙂 . Kinda like an executive summary.
Well played old chap…….
Well written LetsPlay
There used to be a saying that went something like “if you surrendered your God given right to vote, no one wants to hear how entitled you think you are”
Spicy time has arrived!
Not yet.
That feeling you’re having right about now might be bad Mexican food.
Agree, spicy will be in Sep2020 with economic collapse and SHTF will be Nov2020.
The media is doing their part to make us all laugh with this Biden leading Trump stuff fed to us by liberals.
I look forward to all the videos of people crying and wailing when old Joe loses.
If Biden wins we can all do what the Democrats have done and protest and not accept the election results.
I don’t see this happening though.
Isn’t Sleepy Creepy Joe just a placeholder? For “Michael”?
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Part of their psyop is to convince the cannon fodder “dey has be’d robbed.”
My favorite video from ’16 was taken down at YT. It was always guaranteed to lift my spirits.
What “political outsider” Trump was up to in 2000 to 2004.
http://dissident-mag.com/2020/07/10/how-political-outsider-donald-trump-and-roger-stone-worked-together-to-elect-george-w-bush/
http://dissident-mag.com/2020/07/13/how-trump-and-stone-used-al-sharpton-to-rig-2004-democratic-primary/
Oh my, what a great researcher you are….love your sources and really love the innuendo. So, you were a Gore fan? Is Gore queer? We need to know who all is queer and if ever there was someone who could supply that info it would be you. Now, why have you never shown that laser light on Gore, or Obama or any other democrat?
Democrats, Commies, and Climate hoaxers all carry their banners openly or are pretty easy to spot.
Trojan horse traitors on the Right are 10x the threat.
Now, refute the details presented in the various articles I repost, or stuff a sock in it once and for all.
https://tinyurl.com/yc8nb88d
What’s to refute? Seriously? Am I to be shocked that Trump backed a republican? OMG, be still my fluttering heart. Now, is Gore queer? Seriously, we NEED to know who all, in your book, is a faggot because….well, because why? The tinfoil hats are too tight, you need to loosen them.
Suck on this you Joe Smith pedophile cult worshiping POS. Whatever you do NEVER say “Mormon”because that would bring up true history. Oh yea…bury it with the LDS crap. Fucking brainwashed coward.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre
Jeezis fucking Christ 22, are you redundant much? Go read Miles Mathis while pulling your pud & keep the splooge in a tissue at your house.
James really hit the mark with this one!
In some ways Trump was prescient, although perhaps not intentionally, in his two most ardently pursued goals: a wall to control the border, and hastening the return of American jobs to U.S. Who now would dispute, in view of the epidemic, that controlling the movement of people across our borders is not a good idea? And who would wholeheartedly agree with the elegant Barack Obama who said, in essence, forget it, those jobs aren’t coming back? Gee, not even the ones useful for making the drugs that millions of people depend on, Barry? And as far as the foreign adventures go, I don’t know anyone with the appetite for expanding or initiating wars with unclear goals and strategies for ending them. Another point in Trump’s favor.
Personally, I don’t think Covid mania will have the legs to make it to November, and the election will be decided by the more mundane economic concerns of the electorate and not on the rhetoric of BLM or Covid.
So long as the governors insist on masks and other prohibitions while the media constantly beats the fear drums, the Covid mania rhetoric will continue to exist and gain momentum. They have found a perfect vehicle to bully and frighten the populace and enough are onboard with the foolishness to keep it going up to election time. Gas lighting is now perfected and we are living it.
Wear your own feathers and stay at home with your tribe.
Well said. Edward Bernays is having a wet dream in his grave. I am astounded at the effectiveness of this Covid propaganda. It is quite disheartening.
ILuvCO2, I think you will truly appreciate what this man has to say about the virus BS promoted by TPTB. An excellent summary by a truly intelligent man…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=294&v=XoRNT1unscU&feature=emb_logo
If there is an election, Trump will win. I’m still contending there will not be one. Mail in ballots, possibly, but that counts as no election as far as I’m concerned. Trump is the slow train to destruction but if he wins, I think the train will speed up considerably. He is a Trojan Horse, but he’s really good at putting on a show.
Mary.
Either he’s really good or his voters are really in need of the fantasy.
Please, vote Biden, you will get what you want with Biden. Or, don’t vote, teach us a lesson, prove to us ignorant ones how so very sagacious you are when you constantly bash Trump and offer nothing in return.
Bug off you Dumb Bimbo.
FEEL LUCKY PUNK ?
Aww, did I touch a nerve? Again? Say it isn’t so.
not hard to touch a nerve that is raw to the bone
You equate refusal to suffer fools with a sore nerve.
that lesser of two evils approach has worked so well for my people. this is why the 19th amendment will be burned down with the rest of the trash heap.
It’s a mighty entertaining show we’re watching… ratings must be through the roof.
Despite some reasonable information, Mr. Kunstler’s repeated slight of President Trump is unconscionable. He is the duly elected President of the United States, and deserves to be referenced as such, much more so than the illegitimate ass-clown who occupied the office for the previous eight years.
Haven’t posted in forever…not a lot I have felt was worth saying and I’ve been busier than a one-legged man at an ass-kickin’ contest. But if I can write a fucking Facebook post (2nd one in 4 years) I can tell you assholes about this idea.
The way I think of it is this: can technology allow us to game not only the bullshit election system, both corrupt political parties and maybe even this 4th Turning itself?
Bret Weinstein came up with the idea of running TWO candidates (one left-leaning, one right-leaning) against the decrepit ass-clowns the parties have thrust before us. These must be the most broadly hated candidates in history and that makes an outsider candidate more appealing–but having two candidates makes it almost unbeatable if a) enough people hear about it and b) if people aren’t foolish enough to believe that it’s perfect for everyone. It simply could be a good starting point for We The People to take back some tiny amount of control of their government. IF (and it is a longshot) we could get this done, then maybe we (reasonable people on both sides of the imaginary aisle) could take back a little more and a little more over the coming years.
Before you spew your objections, I have heard them all. All of them are real and none of them matter. There is NOTHING to lose and potentially a lot to gain. That’s it.
It’s called Unity2020. Check it out.
Here is the way I look at it:
• If you were planning to hold your nose and vote for Trump, because you typically vote Republican or just can’t stand Joe Biden….#Unity 2020 is for you.
• If you were planning to hold your nose and vote for Biden, because you typically vote Democratic or just can’t stand Donald Trump….#Unity 2020 is for you.
• If you were planning not to vote in protest because you feel like voting for the Lesser of Two Evils is NOT what democracy is supposed to be…#Unity2020 is for you. (Me)
• If you were planning to write in a protest vote, because you want to participate in the process but just CAN’T STAND either candidate…#Unity2020 is for you.
#Unity2020 is not a good fit if you:
• Think Donald Trump has been a terrific president and deserves four more years in office.
• Think Joe Bided is an excellent choice to lead Our Nation through what bound to be a very turbulent next four years.
• Don’t plan to vote out of pure apathy or nihilism.
• Despise the United States and want to watch it burn to the ground.
It actually could work, it just requires people to break out of their political habits, which bolster a ridiculously corrupt system. Shit, Bret Weinstein is supposedly a “radical” leftist and yet I’ll listen to his podcast then come over to TBP and hear the exact same arguments and see the same fucking twitter posts. We are not all that far apart, that is just the “Widening Gyre” of the noisy extremes during fucked-up times.
Check it out, give it some thought…try not to dismiss it out of hand just because everything sucks. Which it clearly does at the moment. 🙂
Drud.
Beats what we’ve been doing because what we’ve been doing is killing us..
Exactly. There is nothing to lose that hasn’t already been lost for decades.
Drud.
Yup.
We did what we always did and got what we alwys got.
Vote harder.Take it without lube. Wait till November. Vote harder.
Get double ended and can hardly wait till November.
Icing on the cake for the slow drip of of history, almost two centuries a.k.a. the war of 1812 and (skronk) the evolution of NWO thought ending in wokeness.
Beating a dead horse on TBP is killing us, me thinks. But I digress.
Big Pharma is CORRUPT! They are controlling the Covid narrative as well. HCQ is no good because it doesn’t cost enough… Chip
Downvotes because there are still people on TBP who don’t get it. All the Trump retards came out because the alternative is Biden. Thanks, Drud. I’ll look into that.
Sheesh, really, people? You can’t think of a better comeback than “What’s the alternative? Biden? ” I’m ashamed of all of you.
Thank You.
Well, Mary, why don’t you tell the folk to not vote. Isn’t that the usual response? Most of the folk on TBP do get it, and, unlike some, they also have a grasp on reality. Hoping that some fantasy will come true, that a ‘unity plan’ will happen is nonsense. Even if it fledged, TPTB would kill it before it could grow wing feathers. Does anyone recall what happened to Ron Paul in 08? His grassroots popularity was off the charts and….bupkiss. The media ignored him as did the RNC and DNC and any and all politicians. He was neutered and that is what will happen to any ‘unity plan’ fantasy.
As to delving into the actual Unity 20/20 plan? Where are those two brave and stalwart ‘leaders’ to come from, how will they gain any prominence and support? What platform will allow them to gain an audience? You honestly think the media will give them any air time? You honestly think TPTB are going to relinquish their hold on the narrative? It is a lovely idea and it will never happen. It sits in the realm of unicorns and rainbows and has massive hurdles impossible to overcome.
Now go trash talk Trump some more and call those who support him retards. It makes you look real smart to be so condescending.
You’re too stupid to get the point and too dumb to know you’re being played.
So you are a fond believer in the Unity Plan? Really? Your point is….? What, exactly? Am I being played if I have no illusions about the reality of how things happen in American politics? Am I another retard because I call you on your bullshit revolution nonsense and Trump bashing? You are disappointed in Trump, ergo he must be destroyed because he hasn’t fulfilled your dreams even though your dreams are unrealisitic and fueled with a fantasy rather than the reality of the world we currently occupy.
What a wonderful fairy tale world you live in, a world where one only has to enlighten the ignorant masses and lo, they will pick up their pitchforks and go forth to fight the good fight.
That pretty much sums up it all, MSM.
You know, Fleabaggs, is in a world by himself… They call the condition Illusional Superiority. Although Delusional Superiority might be a better choice instead for the name of the condition he has.
Bel boy.
I know that you and your tranny girlfriend mgm
won’t acknowledge evidence contrary to your Cog-Dis mindset but I’ll post it again for you.
https://truthtopowernews.com/united-states-africa-black-crime-wave-overwhelms-virtually-all-major-american-cities-n3889
“The unopposed Africanization of the United States is happening on Donald Trump’s watch. While the president tweets “Law & Order” almost once a day, his administration is doing nothing. His party has no plan for restoring order in the country either. In fact, Trump’s campaign has decided to join the NAACP and Black Lives Matter in calling Joe Biden “racist” for supporting the 1994 crime bill, which dramatically reduced violent crime in the country.”
So you have to resort to lies and distortions claiming what I believe or want when I said nor implied not such things.
What you and your soy boy hipster manpussies you have for followers are doing is misleading others and preventing any truth from surfacing by using standard commie tactics.
I’m flattered that all of you have to focus on me instead of the other red pilled readers. I don’t mind being the point man or lightning rod for truthers.
Yawn
Not to mention that it is too late to get additional people onto most ballots. If you want it to work, it will need to be started early next year for ’24. Of course, that will give TPTB plenty of time to neuter said candidates.
He knows that. He’s suggesting a change in thinking..
A large part of the electorate changed their thinking in ’92 and voted for Ross. In the end it gave us the guy who got hummers in the oval office.
TN
You’re rational is impenetrable and idiotic.
Flea
Your use of the English language is atrocious and makes your statement unintelligible.
Maybe if you would use more convincing arguments and not revert to ad hominem attacks, more people would pay attention to you.
You and “YOUR” moron girlfriend are too dull to get the sarc. It was directed at you and the idiotic thinking you always Trumpers try to pass off as fact.
Your girlfriend doesn’t even have original thought. She has to copy and paste comments i’ve directed at her in the passed.
First of all, I am married to my girlfriend and she is not a moron nor does she post on TBP.
Secondly, I am NOT an “always Trumper”.
What I am is a realist and I know there will be 3 realistic options this November, just like always, except in ’92.
a. Vote for Trump
b. Vote for the dem nominee
c. Stay at home and sit on my ass.
After what the democrat party has pulled the past 4 years, option b is out as I will never vote for another democrat, not even for street sweeper. Option c is also out, as I have not missed a national election since ’72 and don’t plan on doing it this time either.
Look at Kuntsler’s “Position Statement” from yesterday (currently top post on TPB). That is pretty much my thinking. Trump was far from my first choice in ’16, but when it came to Nov., I could NEVER vote for the evil witch. Trump is POTUS and unless they take him out, he will be the nominee for the republican party and I will vote for him. With him at the helm, we have a small chance of saving our republic. With the dem in charge, we have ZERO chance of saving it.
You may want your boogaloo, and you may get it, but until a real leader emerges, its chances of success are minimal. The chances of a real leader emerging and surviving TPTB is also minimal.
Nice work TN.
‘Your’ and he is spot on. Sorry you don’t like it when you get contradicted.
I think it’s condescending for you to tell me what I think which is what you just did in your comment. I think you have thin skin and can’t take being called a stupid name.
Trump will win whether I vote or not if that is what TPTB want. So don’t get your panties in a knot. There is no one coming to save us. If you don’t know that by now I can’t help you. If you do know it, then why do you care who wins? Trump is either complicit in this whole mess, and there is plenty of evidence for that to be the case, or he’s been neutered. So tell me how things will be better than Biden. Coke or Pepsi. You choose.
I said I would look into what Drud posted. I know nothing about it. So I can’t judge it.
So go ahead and tell me I’m the one who is condescending. TBPer’s have called others here way worse names than retard. Go away if you can’t take it.
Grow up. You are way too naïve for some one who believes themselves to be an adult. Referring to Trump supporters as retards and then, after being called on it, whining about being call a ‘stupid’ name reveals your hypocrisy. Interesting that you can dish it out but can’t take as is witnessed by your response.
If you are too stupid to understand the consequences of a democrat win then you are hopeless. Pepsi? Coke? Really? You actually believe the consequences of a democrat in the Oval office are that banal? Have you not witnessed the weeks of destruction and protests, have you not listened to the speeches and statements coming from the democrats? Do you not understand what is at stake here? Apparently not, you and the rest of the anti-Trump cadre don’t seem capable of thinking beyond the moment and also seem incapable of understanding consequences. Immature minds suffer from an inability to think beyond the moment.
Do you know who Dr. Burry is? Pay attention to what he says….he made a fortune betting against the markets in ’08 and he called the collapse. He is beyond scary with his intellect.
You are projecting, MG. I don’t have time for your nonsense which is why I rarely reply to your comments. Really, you know me better than that, by now. If you don’t than you haven’t been here long enough. At least I have gone out on a limb and posted essays here. What have you done to show your immense intellect? Hmmm? I’m waiting. Oh, yeah, you wasted about 4 days and pages of electronic paper to argue with someone else who can’t handle being called a name. I know what the Democrats can do. I know the Republicans have no spine and do little to nothing to stop them.
I watch what Trump does, not what he says he will do. Always, it’s the opposite. Operations Warpspeed? Withdraw from the WHo and then give money to The Gates Foundation funneled through Gavi. So take your Trump propaganda and stick it up your ass.
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/vaccine-bait-switch-millions-pulled-from-who-trump-gives-billions-gates-founded-gavi/
You are so right.
You rarely reply to my comments and yet, here you are. I’m not real interested in yours either, they echo the chamber and are predictable. However, when you accuse a group of being retards because they are concerned about the direction the country is headed then you get my attention. Who are you to sit in judgement? Who made you the sine qua non of what constitutes who and what to vote for?
Calling Trump supporters retards puts you in the same category as the leftists and BLM cadre. Watch Trump, then, ask yourself this one question, and that is, what happens if a democrat gains the presidency. Answer that honestly if you can. Do you know what a bulwark is? As to your essays? Did you write them?
Thank you MC.
Ok…some discussion..combined with the requisite shit-flinging.
The question of where will these stalwart leaders come from is natural and valid….but it doesn’t really matter. It’s ultimately not about them…its not about policy….its not even about leadership.
Ultimately, its about US. Taking back some REAL agency back in the electoral process. That’s the important goal. Getting some critically thinking patriots in office is gravy.
Bret Weinstein’s candidate of choice are Andrew Yang and Admiral William McRaven. He’s gamed it out and those two make the most sense to him and I’m fine with it. I would be fine with The Rock and Jocko Willink or maybe Gollum and Jar-jar Binks….anyone or anything EXCEPT the candidates selected by the irredeemably corrupt dua-opoly.
Personally, I’d prefer Tulsi over Yang, but Yang is slightly more electable…so I’m fine with Yang. I think Tulsi would be fine with Yang.
The hour is late, the stakes are ridiculously high and Crisis=Opportunity. Nothing to lose and potentially a lot to gain.
The rational choice is obvious…just a matter of dumping all the emotional baggage that inherently comes with politics.
Drud:
I share your frustrations and disgust with the present status quo and daresay Weinstein’s plan is something to think about in abstract. How does it get placed in position as a viable alternative to the current status quo? How would you go about getting it discussed, much less acted upon? What process would you follow, who would promote it? How do you get a ‘real agency’ in place? How would you handle the media? How would you go around the status quo?
Until some pertinent questions are answered, Weinstein’s proposition sits in the realm of potentially a nice idea but not really probable. Discussing some potential candidates is a great mental exercise, however, has anyone broached the subject with those whose names have been bandied about?
Not likely no. I do know that this has been going on for quite some time and that there is a strategic element to the timing. If it remains unknown then it dies, if it gains traction then it will be attacked on all sides…so timing and being ready to counter the attacks is critical.
Even in May, when I first heard the idea, I thought it was too late, but that is linear thinking. Chaotic times cause more rapid changes than could ever be imagined during peaceful ones.
Weeks where decades happen.
Watch the videos and read the website unity https://www.articlesofunity.com/.
There are answer to a lot of your questions.
It’s intriguing and I do like Bret’s ability to reason, even if I disagree with him 90% of the time. However, he’s still stuck on trying to patch the existing system. Not. Gonna. Work. He should know better. He’s an evolutionary biologist and is quite familiar with cycles.
We are at the end of the American Empire. What comes next matters more. That is where people should be spending their time. IOW, figuring out what a NEW social contract – a NEW Constitution – should contain.
I’ll start:
1. Every 20 years we have a mandatory convention of the states to amend the Constitution.
2. One vote per household.
3. One term for Representative, 2 years. One for Senator, 6 years. One for Justice, 4 years, off election. One for President, 4 years.
4. Prohibition on federal govt. borrowing unless in time of invasion of our borders.
5. No treaties shall include alliances of any kind, economic or otherwise.
6 The Constitutionality of any bill signed into law must be adjudicated by “a court system” prior to becoming Public Law.
He’s an excellent thinker and scientist, but more he has a deep understanding of Game Theory. No one can predict the future, but one can Game out potential scenarios and Bret is one of the best at doing so.
Even if successful, and it is a long shot, it would be only a small step towards the change we need, but it would be in the right direction…it could change the trend.
I prefaced the whole thing with the idea of Gaming our way out of the current Fourth Turning. Throughout history they have played out with massive bloodshed and then a rebirth. That is definitely the most likely outcome here as well.
But, technology changes the situation for better and worse. This is the first Fourth Turning with Hydrogen bombs…WORSE. This is also the first Fourth Turning with the internet and social media…potentially better? I don’t know, but I’m willing to try…because the alternative we know and it is not a good one.
Bret is a solid thinker. And he is averse to pain of the people. It’s obvious he wants to help.
But spending any more time trying to save a system that requires so much physical energy to maintain (in terms of BTUs) is a waste of time. Entropy is unavoidable. Better for people to accept reality and ruminate on what a replacement would be before we lose the ability to do so.
I don’t expect that to happen, necessarily. But that’s what I am doing. I basically /ignore any commentary online at this point that involves “tweak this”, “hope for that”, etc. These are – generally speaking – not the people who will be contributing to the future system.
At least a part of me agrees with you…that is the path. However, every time I’ve predicted something about how the future will play out, I’ve been not just wrong but dreadfully so.
Also, in the moment, I see no issue with discussing a plan with some potential and voting contrarian in November. Why the hell not? Better than Biden, better than Trump, better than being angry, bitter or worried.
Not that you are any of things…speaking abstractly.
Understood. You’re thinking out loud.
I’ve been busy trying to coalesce my thoughts into what I want the new system to entail. IMHO people spend far too much time on replacing the door handles on a car with a thrown rod. A major part of it is a primal fear of death, either literally (mortality) or figuratively (what they know and are comfortable with). Well, we all die sometime, rarely do we get to choose how or when, and if one works outside long enough, one learns to accept radical, systemic change.
I might have to use that.
AOC..
I agree it can’t be fixed but I’m willing to discuss options and always have been. Me and Tim Xrugger tried to get this conversation going 3 years ago. We were met with blanks with one exception. That was the people warning us that we were going to get Admin booted if we continued.
SOS, stay with the Devil we know, it’s a safer way to die.
There is nothing we could possibly discuss that could be worse than what we are presently getting.
I don’t think the discussion of facts is a bad thing. All systems die, it’s just a matter of when. My opinion comes into play when I assert that it will die within the next 2 years – although there’s a plethora of evidence staring everyone in the face.
Based on that opinion, I just politely dismiss anyone who is not at least willing to acknowledge the probability of the above being greater than chance. What I am interested in is defining the actual light at the end of the tunnel, not the tunnel itself. The folks who think they just need to change the dim light bulb aren’t worth my time at this juncture.
So in essence we have folks who think they’re in the light, albeit one that you have to flick to keep on. We have folks interested in defining the tunnel and all its likely mayhem. And we have folks who want to acknowledge the dark, acknowledge the tunnel, and spend time defining the light. I’m in the last camp because that is just where my mind works best.
Just when I had given up on AOC, he waxes poetic.
Trump is not the candidate of either party establishment. He is hated by the GOPe and the press and Democrat scum. Trump IS the outsider validated by the extreme opposition of all the Uniparty asshats. You are just another fucking troll sent to split up any support for Trump hoping for a Perot Effect to take down Trump and put the establishment back in the driver’s seat, driving us to more endless wars, regulation, taxes, illegals and general bullshit. Also to put all those Uni-fuques back on the gravy train and safeguard the revolving doors for “the right sort of chaps.”
Huh. Sounds legit.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.MwC3v2ZJm9dEHgLuP9R9dwHaEo%26pid%3DApi&f=1
Well played sir. I imagine President Trump has some firepower in reserve as well.
Something is needed to bring the emotional types together, I wonder what it could be…
Kunstler. Another one of the (mask wearing) POD people.
Ha Ha, More fake nukes and fake Reagan SDI;
https://tinyurl.com/y75esbhu (the movie that started me thinking nukes might be fake)
Ha Ha, More Psyops 101 and 201, Ezra Pound Anti, Q-tard, Weisbecker, etc etc.
https://tinyurl.com/y9uz34hv (refute the points made or stuff a sock in it)
The only thing more fake than Q is Q’s fake astroturf audience.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre
You should see some of the sins, crimes, and atrocities many of the characters in the Bible committed.
Having a few extra wives or killing some infiltrators and apostates is weak sauce by comparison.
You are a follower…weak of mind.
Rise above and figure shit out on your own ….or not.
“the bible” Really? Where do you think Joe Smith got his ideas of “revelations” and selling “magic rocks” to fund his “flock”? Dude wasn’t even original. Do you even know the history of “Mormonism”? It’s a full blown cult buy every definition. Getting people to be okay with fucking teenagers and younger as wives is so David Koresh. Oh ….Okay…so let’s be all into stocking up on provisions to prepare for the “apocalypse”…that makes ALL okay. The stupid…..it hurts.
Fake? I am not sure you are using your vocabulary correctly.
An entity people call Q certainly exists.
And this entity makes waves in this thing we experience as reality, and as evidenced by your post, it is making waves in your reality.
Just as you do round these parts.
Are you fake?
Is that the right word to use?
Enjoy the show!!
I sure am.
Rumors swirl a communication darkness approaches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoqQnR8NOVI
“(refute the points made or stuff a sock in it)”
Pop Gun…arrogance vomits out of too many of your repetitive BS posts with brain dead double headed smug cult confidence…you don’t drink the grape Kool Aid you bath in it, and drench almost every thread with your dirty bath water.
You often snipe/slander good people with sweeping libelous intent…some people whose shoelaces you couldn’t tie. Just like Mathis you often mix in some truth and good positions to provide cover for all the crap and looney tune blather.
I’m not saying every post or position you put up is crap…just all the Mathis/Mormon cult dribble – but why do you think posting the same bullshit 10 times a week makes it any less annoying?
Make your point and move on…bombarding TPBers with the same posts/links over and over will have the opposite intended effect. You are not going to wear anyone down…make your point and debate not repeat the same bat shit bullshit over and over.
SDAforFETruth
https://sdaforfetruth.proboards.com/thread/125/miles-mathis-fraud
MILES W. MATHIS IS A THIEF
https://wellaware1.com/mileswmathis/
MORE MATHIS THEFT
https://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=104826
DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE
Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Clowns
https://pieceofmindful.com/2018/05/10/down-the-coney-hole/
I disagree. This article is informative as to why I disagree.
The USMCA “Trade Agreement” Violates Our Constitution And Sets Up Global Government
Ahh, Kunstler, another gold pumper. These guys are a joke.
We’re far past that point. Better to buy arable land.
Auntie’s “position” statement:
http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/earthnavels.htm
Jim, you nailed Trumps biggest disappointment for me – the insane spending with funny money to mainly support the equally insane stock market. The end is going to be more painful by a factor of 10 because of it.
If you are white and vote for “any” democrat, you are suicidal or very deluded.
I live in Houston, Texas and haven’t seen a funeral procession in months,, and I drive by Forest Lawn daily.
Nov. 4,2020———–We are not under attack by Russia.Those are not warning sirens.Those are anguished,”Progressive” screams. Watch for flooding in low lying,Blue areas.
If there was a pool in Vegas on the seconds Quinn spends reading what TBP’ers are commenting on his aggregator, I’d wager everything on the longest odds
” I didn’t vote for him last time, but I would vote for him this time to keep the Democratic Party out of power. ”
That (I’ll admit) was my 2016 reason, as well. Hitlery was so evil, so annoying, so utterly irredeemable, that ANYONE- even Boiny Sanduhs would have been a better candidate. But I actually believed that Drumpf meant what he said. “You have to go back.” Now, it’s merely a self-preservation strategy to vote for him, again. I’m going to need another four years to establish an ex-pat residence- America is done. And my SSI? Gone in 9 years, at the best estimates. If you read any other sites (and you should) such as AmRen, Occidental Dissent, or the Daily Stormer, or have been in quarantine so much that you haven’t heard of Floyd et al., know one very important thing- you will NOT want to be in a nation ruled by N-words, or whores like Cabala Ha’aretz [Kamala Harris] or Stacey [poor unfortunate whale- ‘Ursula’] Adams…. As a friend of mine recently wrote:
Pertinent quote: ‘An employer might not technically be able to fire you just for being white, but once the Twitter mob sets its sights on not just you but your place of employment, you can be let go because your presence is impeding the functioning of the company. You’re not being fired for your views, but for your baggage, which has become a “distraction.” ‘
David Cole, by the way, is Jewish- so he’s not speaking as a ‘white racist,’ as it were…. Like I said a few posts ago, it’s interesting that the Jewish folks I either read or know, are the ones most attuned to the feeling that we are either emulating St. Petersburg in 1917, or Berlin in 1933…