Would the Military Side with Leftist Tyranny or with America?

Guest Post by Kurt Schlichter

Would the Military Side with Leftist Tyranny or with America?

The Democrats are wargaming how to steal the 2020 election, and after Grandpa Badfinger selected Lady Mac (Willie) Brown, their last best hope seems to be the military marching in and removing Donald Trump from the White House after he wins and they refuse to accept the election results. But will the military actually do the bidding of the coterie of Marxist Muppet masters with their fingers, ironically, up inside Joe Biden like he is a crusty, senile Kermit?

Which he is, except the real Mr. Miss Piggy isn’t a manifestly mentally incompetent socialist Trojan Frog.

And don’t even get me started on his veep, Botoxic K.

Between the perma-coup against the American people, the mainstream media’s myriad and shameless lies, and the Democrats’ election fraud agenda (including the Golden Ticket to anarchy that is mail-in voting), it is absolutely clear that the Democrats will not accept Donald Trump’s impending victory. It is also clear that their plan is to sow chaos when they lose, with outright ballot box-stuffing, riots, and endless counts and recounts, so that they can obscure Trump’s win enough to create a patina of fake doubt about the result. Then they will rush into some Hawaiian courtroom and get some Hawaiian judge to announce that the Delaware Basement Crustacean won the election. The idea is to then have a deus ex militaria where somehow the establishment gets reestablished forever at gunpoint. And the liberal elite is said establishment.

But it’s not completely crazy, unfortunately, to consider whether the military, or at least a portion of it, would cooperate in a liberal attempt to seize power. Here’s the troubling truth: the generals will absolutely fall in line with the liberal elite.

“Wait,” the reader asks. “Aren’t generals and majors and stuff conservative?”

Well, in temperament, yes. But they are not conservative in terms of American politics. And for that reason, it is entirely possible, if not likely, that many of them would take the side of the leftist establishment if called upon to resolve a disputed election instead of demurring to the politicians to decide the matter themselves.

Wow. Just writing that is scary. But these are scary times, and we are blessed with what Instapundit Glenn Reynolds tells Americans is “the worst ruling class in your history.” The generals are absolutely a part of that failed caste.

The generals – a term I’ll use to describe the majority of senior active duty officers (Colonel/Captain O6 and up; note that reserve officers have a slightly different perspective, being civilians most of the time) – are creatures of the establishment. Yes, it is absolutely true that many of them showed great courage in battle against foreign enemies and made great personal sacrifices. It is also true that in the culture war they have been entirely AWOL. They are terrified of crossing the establishment by doubting its preferred mores, and that is why they accept every bizarre modern SJW trope regardless of its effect on combat readiness. They will charge a jihadi with a bayonet and wet themselves in the face of an irate Kirsten Gillibrand. It’s weird, but it’s true.

Here, Trump and his populist movement are agents of rapid and disruptive change. The military, in which these generals grew up and which gives them their identities, is the least disruptive institution in American society. The lengthy and laudable tradition of civilian authority over the military, as well as the hierarchical nature of the military itself, makes it instinctively against rapid, disruptive change.

Though the Democrats have moved left, they maintain a headlock on the institutions, and the institutions are what the generals are loyal to even if the leaders of those institutions have morphed into rabidly anti-American aspiring dictators. To embrace Trump and populism is to repudiate the whole establishment hothouse that grew their power and prestige. They would be opposing themselves.

Look at CNN and see the endless parade of fully semi-automatic Obama generals babbling like idiots about how Trump is ruining their sweet gigs, though they don’t put it quite that way. Look at the appalling Chairman of the Joint Chiefs apologizing for following the elected president’s lead. And, especially, look at their horror that America is ending those endless wars.

Those are the generals, and they have the elite’s back, not yours. A general who said “all lives matter” or refused to buy the ridiculous but fashionable notion that America’s greatest strategic threat is the weather a century hence or uttered some other heresy would not be a general much longer – and certainly not cash in on a sweet post-retirement gig at Boeing.

But most Americans don’t see that. Because America remembers the military of 30 years ago that could actually win a war in a reasonable period of time (as we did in Desert Storm), today’s generals benefit from residual respect for yesterday’s Cold War military. Americans are unaware of the devastated culture cultivated by our military senior leadership. Here’s the ruinous legacy of today’s generals: Afghanistan is a disaster and still not won, ships colliding and catching fire due to gross failures of leadership, boats of sailors on tape whimpering as they surrender to the Iranian Navy, senior officers leaking to the media, colonels, generals and admirals getting court-martialed, massive prosecutorial misconduct by JAGs, woke West Point (which recently graduated an open communist), and troops kneeling before rioters. It’s a military that puts Diversity Day before D-Day.

Unfortunately, the first 24 hours of war with China would make the rot agonizingly apparent – at the cost of thousands of our warriors’ precious lives. They’ll deny it, of course, and I fervently hope I’m wrong. But I fear I’m not, because none of the incentives in today’s military are aimed toward achieving combat readiness instead of achieving ideological conformity.

So, count on the active duty generals to fall in line when the New York Times trumpets the Democrats’ line that Trump’s victory is illegitimate. That’s the voice of the people they really take their orders from.

Then what?

Good question, but remember that the military is not just the generals. The military includes the middle-grade and junior officers and non-commissioned officers as well as the enlisted troops. And while the woke poison has spread into these ranks too, there is a real question about whether those leaders, who are where the tank treads meet the road, would follow an order to make war on American citizens.

That’s a harsh way of putting it, but making war is what the military does – it uses fire and maneuver to destroy the enemy, and to the liberal establishment, those of us who refuse to allow the election victory of our candidate to be undone will be the enemy. Intervention by the military necessarily means America forces killing American patriots.

And no, the New York Times’ Marxist newsroom will not be exploding in protests over that domestic use of military force; it will be loudly cheering it.

We know we cannot trust this generation of generals to stand up for freedom, but I’d like to think that a good portion of the troops would refuse to enter civilian politics in favor of the anti-American left. Yet, I would have also liked to think that we’d never see law enforcement officers eagerly obeying the fascist decrees of liberal poohbahs. The sight of overeager Barney Fifes hassling citizens about piehole thongs made it clear that for some people oaths come behind the giddy joy of power and keeping their pensions.

So, the question is, what will our troops do? Will they make war on the American people so that Basement Biden’s puppet masters can turn America into Venezuela 2: The Quickening? Or will they say “No” to imposing a leftist dictatorship, which is what the Democrats’ Revenge Agenda proposes? Our troops are loved in large part because they don’t take a side in domestic politics; if they do, and turn on the people for the benefit of a senile old puppet and the Truancy Avenger, well, that affection evaporates.

Sadly, we cannot rely on the generals to not make the error. Let’s just hope that the danger is mooted because Trump’s margin of victory is so great that the Democrats cannot cheat.

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Steven
Steven
August 13, 2020 8:30 am

Unfortunately, I can concur. I recently returned from overseas on military contract where I had the opportunity to interact with both senior officers (Lt. Colonel and above) junior and enlisted on a daily basis. The senior Officers seemed to be political creatures generally, and it depended on the MOS and job whether the junior Officers and senior NCO’s leaned left or right. The troops are demoralized from the standards reduced to include every gender and freak in combat positions. Not the same military I served in. At this point, I would say that due to compartmentalization, there is a good chance that many in our military would serve a globalist (Socialist) master, at least for a while. Remember the purges of flag officers under Obama.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Steven
August 13, 2020 8:58 am

I think the traitors would try to do it quietly initially, trying to use threat and intimidation (stand down or we kill you and your family) then show their intent and start squeezing like an anaconda….cutting off communications, access, travel all very quietly to isolate the POTUS. If that doesn’t work well then at some point they have to put boots on the street. I think they will be very reluctant to do that as once you go rogue there is no coming back. I think we are already in the intimidation/squeezing phase right now.

Jaz
Jaz
  Martel's Hammer
August 13, 2020 11:56 am

There was talk that most of the wireless carriers have eliminated Trump’s ability to send a text to everyone’s phone.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Steven
August 13, 2020 9:52 am

Those purges also purged the ability of any conservative to rise above Major. My nephew was an AF pilot who could not wait to get his 20 in and retire. The politics were what he hated and was leaving.

He assures me the pilots will side with the people and I would not be surprised if their first strikes are on the pentagon and the chairborne commandos who office there.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  TN Patriot
August 13, 2020 10:03 am

That would be quite the sight.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Glock-N-Load
August 13, 2020 10:06 am

I remember the people in the theater cheering when the capitol was blown up in Independence Day.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  TN Patriot
August 13, 2020 11:04 am

They did the same thing in the theater during “Mars Attacks” when the grandma screams out “They blew up Congress!” Made my heart feel good to hear the cheers and applause.

Call me Jack
Call me Jack
  MrLiberty
August 13, 2020 1:43 pm

No,we can’t all just get along.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  TN Patriot
August 13, 2020 11:04 am

Retired Gen. Barry McCaffrey said the other day that Gen. Milley would be able to deal with Trump if he had to “remove” him. Milley is a rumored gay blade as well as an asshole. He was embarrassed to have been seen with Trump at the church the rioters burned in DC. I do not like or trust this martinet POS. How one is embarrassed to be involved in “taking back the streets” from communist terrorists as a military man is baffling.

John
John
  Harrington Richardson
August 13, 2020 10:51 pm

Note that Gen. McCaffrey is a member of the globalist Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), along with McMaster, Petraeus, and dozens more — including SecDef Mark Esper. It is clear which “team” they play for. See lists at the CFR website.

Eatinme
Eatinme
  TN Patriot
August 13, 2020 11:18 am

Like that TV crap designated survivor. I watched the first episode just to see the congress get blown to bits. The rest just sucked.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Eatinme
August 13, 2020 1:12 pm

That was the best scene in the series. I think I made it through 1 1/2 episodes thinking it had to get better.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  TN Patriot
August 13, 2020 1:19 pm

It wasn’t a wart on 24’s ass. He’ll never have one that good again.

Call me Jack
Call me Jack
  TN Patriot
August 13, 2020 1:42 pm

It was enemy occupied territory.No,not aliens. The Rinocrat elite.

Call me Jack
Call me Jack
  TN Patriot
August 13, 2020 1:41 pm

There will be blood in the streets,Trump better be prepared for a military coup since the 4 year political/media coup failed.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Call me Jack
August 13, 2020 2:10 pm

I think it would be wise to rescind DC independence and put it back under federal control. It’s beyond obvious the Commie Gay Black Woman (Ooooh she checks four Prog boxes!)Mayor is incompetent or one of the enemy. It is not unreasonable to anticipate Antifa calling in the clans to one spot outside the fence at 1600 and launch a massive assault on the White House. Of course anybody can buy a black hoodie so that is great cover for a decapitation raid.

flash
flash
  Harrington Richardson
August 13, 2020 7:10 pm

The Most IMPORTANT History Lesson Americans Were Never Taught

daniel
daniel
  Steven
August 13, 2020 11:56 am

interestingly the new ACFT seemingly does an end-run around the females and tranny shit by making it virtually impossible for them to qualify for any combat MOS let alone SF. no more females through rasp.

Call me Jack
Call me Jack
  daniel
August 13, 2020 1:45 pm

Haven’t heard that bit of good news.

Call me Jack
Call me Jack
  Steven
August 13, 2020 1:38 pm

The Obama purge was political? I’m shocked.Shocked i say.

Steve
Steve
August 13, 2020 9:07 am

The wokeness in the military is nauseating. Todays military is a glorified daycare operation and employment sink for the lower rung socio-economic class without other opportunities in their hometown.
Yup, the generals have fallen in line with the leftist perspective because that’s where the bread gets buttered. Washington DC is their default home and that area is 95% lefty. They are most concerned with jockeying for plum post retirement gigs at defense contractors and you gotta be woke to qualify.
George Patton would never make it past colonel in todays military.

Tom O'Neill
Tom O'Neill
August 13, 2020 9:28 am

The military will honor their oath to support and defend the Constitution.

Neuday
Neuday
  Tom O'Neill
August 13, 2020 10:19 am

That’s hilarious!

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Tom O'Neill
August 13, 2020 10:33 am

Now that’s some seriously strong delusion

Eatinme
Eatinme
  Tom O'Neill
August 13, 2020 11:20 am

If that were the case, it would have started doing it over 100 years ago.

Mygirl....Maybe
Mygirl....Maybe
  Eatinme
August 13, 2020 10:26 pm

The military will honor their oath to support and defend the Constitution.

Uhm no, the military will support their paycheck and pensions, just like the cops.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Tom O'Neill
August 13, 2020 11:31 pm

“The military will honor their oath to support and defend the Constitution.”

did you catch the part about they’ll get a judge in …?
that’ll be all the justification they need–

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 13, 2020 9:43 am

Haywood_Jablomi
Haywood_Jablomi
August 13, 2020 9:46 am

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Iska Waran
Iska Waran
August 13, 2020 9:47 am

Why does someone make a career out of being in the military? All sorts of reasons, I guess. I had two career military uncles, including one four star general. A huge part is the pension. That was especially true of my uncle who retired as a colonel after twenty years. After raising your family in Germany and the Philippines and God knows where else, that pension is the goal. And you’re not going to let anything put that payout at risk.

Tom MacGyver
Tom MacGyver
  Iska Waran
August 13, 2020 10:27 am

…The pension won’t exist if the country doesn’t exist…

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  Tom MacGyver
August 13, 2020 10:53 am

depends on how you define ‘country’

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
August 13, 2020 9:51 am

The generalz have families to protect as well as a Country.

Lars
Lars
  YourAverageJoe
August 13, 2020 10:14 am

If you’re going where I think you’re going with that thought, hearts will need to harden.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Lars
August 13, 2020 11:08 am

Milley has no family. Mattis has no family.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Harrington Richardson
August 13, 2020 6:51 pm

their subordinates do have families. Learn where they live.

Mygirl....Maybe
Mygirl....Maybe
  Harrington Richardson
August 13, 2020 10:27 pm

‘Milley has no family. Mattis has no family.’

Gay men generally have no family.

Anonymous1
Anonymous1
August 13, 2020 9:54 am

hilarious:

Yahsure
Yahsure
August 13, 2020 10:15 am

I think the article was stupid. I would like to think that our military are believers in their oath and the Constitution. This also applies to any orders to obey orders from the U.N. against U.S. citizens.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Yahsure
August 13, 2020 10:36 am

Some will some won’t.
The strong delusion will tell.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Yahsure
August 13, 2020 11:26 am

I find it disturbing as hell. We saw Milley make a speech on TV apologizing for his being with Trump at that church.. McCaffrey, a Dem fuckface says Milley would turn the military on Trump. The Progs are war gaming an overthrow when or if Trump wins reelection. This war game shit involves big money interests and the usual suspect groups and individuals.
These people hate Constitutional America and are in thrall to Satan.
Anybody who hasn’t zeroed and upgraded the fancy toys in their closet or safe is a fool.
If you think 18 year old illegal DACA boy has the capacity to determine what are or are not lawful orders of their superiors you may be whistling past the graveyard.
Since these people seem to be Bolsheviks, one should not be surprised to see them employ KGB platoons like WW2 and even Afghanistan. Anybody who doesn’t go forward or who retreats is machine gunned by the platoon of political officers in the rear of the attack. Gives a whole new twist on Rear Echelon Mother F’ers.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Harrington Richardson
August 13, 2020 1:21 pm

My faith lies with the non-coms who are usually strong conservatives and understand their duty. They may have to take out the battalion HQ, but there are always casualties in war.

KevinK
KevinK
  TN Patriot
August 14, 2020 5:50 am

Reminds me of Vietnam, tents and frag grenades. Generals were running the war, non-coms and grunts were fighting it.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  KevinK
August 14, 2020 8:46 am

LTC Anthony Herbert called the generals & pentagon staff “chairborne commandos” in his book Soldier

Mongoose1952
Mongoose1952
  Yahsure
August 13, 2020 12:26 pm

Maybe you should consider the message a little more seriously. During the Barry Admin, a purge occurred of good senior military leadership in all our forces. Those who rose in their place were those who “fit” with the desires of the mooslum/communist. This included wearing it down in armaments, and supplies. And this is “only” one of the ticking time bombs he left in our country after leaving office. You, as an individual can afford to ignore the message, but our country can’t.

President Trump has done wonders in his short first term, all while fighting off the alligators while trying to drain the swamp and fix our country and set foreign relations back in our favor.

And the enemies foreign include the EU, the UN, the WTO, the World Bank, you name it. Maybe I am being too nice here. You need to get your head out of your south-end PDQ!

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Mongoose1952
August 13, 2020 1:23 pm

Once the purge was completed in the leadership, they were able to advance those who fit their mold of a good officer.

Mygirl....Maybe
Mygirl....Maybe
  Mongoose1952
August 13, 2020 10:33 pm

Obama did indeed purge the military just like Clinton did. Progressives are now in charge. The problem that many people don’t get is that the top brass in the military, for the most part, are nothing but ass-kissing suck ups. They are politicians in uniform, adept at passing the buck and sucking up and back stabbing when the opportunity presents itself.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Mygirl....Maybe
August 13, 2020 11:25 pm

Perfumed Princes.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Yahsure
August 13, 2020 1:18 pm

In the 1860’s, we saw that Lee upheld his oath to the U S Constitution and Lincoln and Grant, et al attacked their own country in violation of same.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  TN Patriot
August 13, 2020 1:39 pm

Only if you can overlook South Carolina firing on Ft. Sumter? Lee honorably resigned his commission regardless. I don’t recall if it was here, but a few days ago I read an interesting take about Civil War. Ours was not a normal civil war but rather an attempted secession. A real civil war involves two groups occupying the same real estate and trying to dominate or kill the other occupants in order to rule over it.
We are facing a possible insurgency or guerrilla war on one hand, or an actual war between two groups for domination of the same place, which is true civil war.

Just a Medic
Just a Medic
  Harrington Richardson
August 13, 2020 2:08 pm

Only if you can overlook South Carolina firing on Ft. Sumter

False. South Carolina forces were attacked/overrun by Union forces attempting to reach Fort Sumpter and reinforce that position. South Carolina forces returned fire upon the attackers/over-runners. Cannon within Fort Sumpter then fired upon the melee.

There is an argument to be made that South Carolina was justified in revoking Fort Sumpter’s welcome, asking Union troops to depart (politely), laying siege to the fort when they did not, and enforcing that siege against Union incursion and reinforcements.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Just a Medic
August 13, 2020 3:11 pm

First time I ever heard that and I have shelves of books on the war. It is Sumter by the way.

Call me Jack
Call me Jack
  TN Patriot
August 13, 2020 1:48 pm

General Lee was a truly great man.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Call me Jack
August 13, 2020 1:51 pm

Yes, he was. It is a shame to see him dragged through the mud and the memory of him cancelled.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Call me Jack
August 13, 2020 2:14 pm

Overrated. He was good, but not that good.

William Williams
William Williams
  Harrington Richardson
August 13, 2020 8:18 pm

As a General, Lee can be considered “good, but not that good”, but as a man he absolutely outstanding.

Peruse, if you will:

https://www.azquotes.com/author/8660-Robert_E_Lee

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  William Williams
August 14, 2020 12:05 am

He was a gentleman and gracious in his life post war.

Call me Jack
Call me Jack
  Yahsure
August 13, 2020 1:46 pm

If they don’t,it will be up to us to shoot at blue helmets.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Call me Jack
August 13, 2020 1:52 pm

Blue is easy to pick out of nature and makes such a nice target.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
August 13, 2020 10:28 am

At this point even a lot of liberals won’t side with left wing tyranny.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Francis Marion
August 13, 2020 11:35 am

Fervently hoping and praying.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Francis Marion
August 13, 2020 6:58 pm

Dreamer. You have more faith in liberals than . I look at them more as targets than allies.

Mygirl....Maybe
Mygirl....Maybe
  Francis Marion
August 13, 2020 10:37 pm

I admire your optimism but most leftists are collectivists, incapable of independent thought and willing followers. Look at them bowing and scraping to the BLM crew for a taste of what they’ll side with.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Mygirl....Maybe
August 13, 2020 11:04 pm

In the real world MOST people are more or less apolitical. It’s why so few actually vote. The majority of those people aren’t really liberal or conservative. They’re a mix – basically centrists of different varieties.

How do you think those apolitical folks are going to react this election cycle to having their businesses looted, neighbourhoods burned and friends and family assaulted and murdered by militant left wing thugs?

Kindly?

#Trump2020.

Bank on it.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Francis Marion
August 13, 2020 11:37 pm

Most people want Uncle Sugar to fix all of life’s problems. You should know this. In Canada they can lock you up for saying something mean. In this country they expect one man to stop a global respiratory virus. The commies burned down a big chunk of my city (Minneapolis) and then the wealthy white libs here wanted to take up a collection to help old Somali women get to the grocery store – because the ones where they live got burned to the fucking ground. Fuck that! You’re up there in the woods so you have the luxury of thinking everything is fine. Those well-intentioned apolitical types are like Edith Bunker.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Iska Waran
August 14, 2020 1:04 am

I’m up in the woods and have nothing to worry about? Where the fuck do you think I live? In the year 1850?

Mygirl....Maybe
Mygirl....Maybe
  Francis Marion
August 14, 2020 12:21 am

In you comment you stated liberals and leftwing tyranny. Liberals are most assuredly political, they thrive on being propagandized.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Mygirl....Maybe
August 14, 2020 1:02 am

I think you misunderstand. There are a lot of ‘liberal’ people in our neighbourhoods who are not the least bit political. They rarely vote, they don’t (really) follow politics, and they have a variety of beliefs, mostly left ‘leaning’ that, if you asked them, would lead them to tell you they are ‘liberal’. They have jobs and kids and like to have a drink and bbq on the weekends. But they’re not communists. They’re moderate, apolitical philosophically scattered types who happen to believe they are progressive ie: liberal. They’re not violent and when they see the sheer fucking insanity that has become the Demonrat party they’re going to march down to the polls on Nov 4 and pull the lever for Trump just to make it stop. For some of them it might even be the first time they’ve ever voted.

And when they’re done pulling that lever and pushing Trump into an even bigger victory than the last one they’re going to go back to their lives doing what they were doing before and so long as the rioting, looting and general fuckery stops and the economy is fine they’ll either forget about politics altogether or do their best to make sure that this shit never happens in THEIR BACKYARDS ever again.

Because living in Mogadishu just isn’t for everyone.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 13, 2020 10:55 am

This is what the Dems are playing for. If they get POTUS, they get MIL. Then, gun confiscation managed by the Pentagon.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Anonymous
August 13, 2020 11:43 am

They really disarmed the goat humpers.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Anonymous
August 13, 2020 1:27 pm

If Biden wins, the House majority will grow and the Senate will change hands. Rules changed in the Senate to abolish the filibuster and they can then do anything they want, including packing the courts. The dems learned their lesson from ’08 when they did not crush the republicans and “took a real shellacking” in ’10. They will not make the same mistake again.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  TN Patriot
August 13, 2020 2:58 pm

All on target and that’s just the first 90 days!

olde reb
olde reb
August 13, 2020 11:05 am

Wall Street got the U.S. into WW I to keep their European loans from default. They attempted to recruit General Butler to front a coup in the 1930’s and he exposed them [ref. WAR IS A RACKET by S. Butler]. WS worked with their crony FDR with crushing sanctions for 17 months to force Japan to attack Pearl Harbor [DAY OF DECEIT by John Stinnett]. WS recruited their crony Allen Dulles to establish the CIA so they could hide their nefarious acts behind ‘national security.’ Vietnam was their use of the CIA. William Blum lists CIA and US military being used to dominate foreign powers in KILLING HOPE.

I am much more concerned about what Wall Street will do collecting on the $24T national debt than about the military. ref. FEDERAL RESERVE FOR DUMMIES,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Goldman Sachs, BlackRock & Rothschild Banking System

AL Tru
AL Tru
August 13, 2020 11:10 am

Look for a September CNN Town Hall with Anderson Cooper and General Mattis. the topic will be if Trump is mentally fit to serve. (25th Ammendment)

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  AL Tru
August 13, 2020 11:46 am

Bring in Milley and maybe Cooper can be “Lucky.” Anybody who doesn’t know that joke, I’m not going to type it out.

William Williams
William Williams
  Harrington Richardson
August 13, 2020 8:22 pm

Unspeakable acts, I surmise….

You have a grudge against the Vanderbilt Damily?

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
August 13, 2020 11:19 am

These bad things could happen. The Progressive nut cases could take control with support of our incompetent military. But then things will get really interesting.

While the left and their Antifa “warriors” believe in making big spectacles of their attacks, i.e., fireworks, drum circles, extensive media coverage; conservatives will play it a bit different. I sense we are in for more of a guerrilla war from the good guys if the nut cases gain control. For example, maybe a few big progressive cities will lose power for a week. Or a critical bridge will somehow become unusable in the center of the city. Of the water pipes bringing drinking water from the mountains to the West Coast cities like Portland and San Francisco have some calamity befall them.

The thing is, our government does not have a history of success fighting against a guerrilla war and with the incompetent hacks that will be in charge, that history is unlikely to change.

I want to be clear that I would never, never advocate such action (hear that NSA). But I’m just saying stranger things have happened.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Trapped in Portlandia
August 13, 2020 11:59 am

Somebody, whose motives are unknown demonstrated that the grid can be disabled by AK fire. Instead of AK’s half as many people or half as many rounds from an M1 or M1A, M-14, AR-10 would do it. One mag (12 rounds) from a Barrett .50 would do it, and could do it from a mile or more.
Most utilities can be hacked by evil-doers. One can also do things nobody ever thought of with Quickrete. It’s just endless what mischief can be done. I hope they don’t even consider such foolishness.
It’s really a sad commentary that leftists are always willing to destroy everything instead of developing ideas that would be competitive in the marketplace of ideas. Their failure to do so demonstrates they are nothing but Visigoths who want power for the sake of wielding power, using bullshit about “the people” as a mask for their evil selfishness.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Harrington Richardson
August 13, 2020 12:36 pm

The grid is their friend not ours.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Fleabaggs
August 13, 2020 12:56 pm

Keep an eye on Cedar Rapids Iowa. It is pretty much the midwest corporate HQ center. Many major corporations based in and around. They are still dark since around this time of day on Monday. The grid goes down, transformers taken down, civilization as we currently know it ends or goes on an up to 18 month hiatus. It is doubtful even 10% of transformers can be replaced in less than a year.
Cedar Rapids is interesting because we will get to see what happens to a “small” major city totally unpowered for maybe a week or more. In a war game you can replace the thousands of trees in the road and smashed buildings with snipers, IED’s, etc. for similar results.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Harrington Richardson
August 13, 2020 3:41 pm

30 years ago, an ice storm hit the mid-south area (Memphis and south about 90 miles). Electricity was out in much of Memphis area for 3 days. I took a trip down US 61 to Clarksdale, MS (60 miles) and not a single utility pole was still standing. There were 100’s of utility crews that came in to repair the damage and some places were out for almost 2 weeks.

Electrical companies will prioritize their work. Simple fixes come first, industrial users 2nd, corporate customers 3rd, residenitial 4th and rural last.

You are correct about the grid. It would not take much effort for a determined group to black out most of the NE for a couple of weeks. If it happened to the 40 largest cities, there would be no crews to travel in to repair the damage and would be totally up to the local utility. Utility crews have a mandatory 8 hour rest after working 2 shifts, so it would take a while to restore power.

What would the urban youts be doing in the darkness?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  TN Patriot
August 13, 2020 7:32 pm

TN.
I can enjoy fantasies of what they would be doing with no lights or cell phones. Bedlam. No power to the gas pumps.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Fleabaggs
August 13, 2020 8:15 pm

Didn’t Kurt Russell star in a movie with that situation?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  TN Patriot
August 13, 2020 8:25 pm

That’s about what will happen. Good movie.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Harrington Richardson
August 14, 2020 7:38 pm

most transformers are made overseas,so if a bunch of them go out,somebody gon be stayin dark for awhile–

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  TampaRed
August 14, 2020 7:54 pm

Red.
Thats good to know.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
August 13, 2020 11:34 am

They work for the NWO so they’ll do what the NWO tells them. Want to avoid being
Waco’d? Learn Yiddish.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Fleabaggs
August 13, 2020 12:48 pm

Learn mil-dot.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
August 13, 2020 11:46 am

I suspect that DJT has already identified those military people who stand against him. I bet that he’s looked at the communications files compiled by the NSA. It wouldn’t surprise me that if a fracas blows up over the Democratic Communists refusing to concede in the election, those generals of suspected loyalties will be the first detained muey pronto.

White Rationalist
White Rationalist
August 13, 2020 11:51 am

As has been said, political power ultimately comes out of the barrel of a gun. If the left, yet again, ( e.g. Russia, China, etc., etc.), uses the power of the gun to domestically enforce their communist/unconstitutional agenda, it may very well be as is described in the excellent book Unintended Consequences. Constitutional Americans have the vast majority of guns and know how to use them. Some military and police will honor their oath. Would the numbers of both constitutional Americans and like minded AGW’s, who are WILLING to USE the barrel of a gun, be enough to stop the communists domestically? I think the answer is yes. Overwhelmingly.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
August 13, 2020 12:00 pm

In the title, the dichotomy presented is “leftist tyranny or America.” Is there a difference anymore? A better dichotomy would be “leftist tyranny or freedom and liberty.” Just my opinion. And the military has been recruiting gang members for nearly a decade because they can’t get anyone else to join. Does anyone honestly think those folks will be fighting for freedom or liberty? Unless the freedom lovers that remain begin the conflict by taking out their own, the whole thing will be a mess.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
August 13, 2020 12:14 pm

I had the same problem with the title. What’s the difference?

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  MrLiberty
August 13, 2020 3:25 pm

Liberty,

Who says the military can’t get anyone to join? My daughter was turned down. She has scoliosis but, the recruiter told her they can afford to be picky.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Glock-N-Load
August 13, 2020 5:36 pm

Going by reports over the past few years regarding recruitment problems and the exemptions that were being handed out to felons, etc. including gang members. Maybe your daughter wasn’t the color they wanted?? With so many addicted to Ritalin, Prozac, and other powerful pharmaceuticals, so many are not eligible. That and obesity were cited among many reasons why there was a shortage of recruits (along with folks simply not wishing to join).

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
August 13, 2020 12:32 pm

If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be a worse case. You may to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.
Attributed to Sir Winston Churchill

November 3, 2020, will decide the fate of this country. if Trump wins we will still have a chance to save what is left of America and, hopefully, begin the long, hard road to recovery. if the Left, the Globalists and the Democrats are allowed to steal the election (there is no question of a Biden victory except through massive fraud), it is over. Civil war will be almost inevitable and God knows what misshapen monsters will emerge from that wreckage. If the last one is any guide, they will be hideous.

Trump must make up his mind now that he will not allow this cabal to steal the election and carry out the coup they attempted in 2016 and 2017. There can be no question of a repeat of the George W. Bush farce of 2000. The enemy is far more organized, determined, and ruthless now than they were then. The pitiful Bush was no threat to them, their power, and their money. Trump is and they know they will not survive another four years of him, especially if the Republicans retake the House.

President Trump has to start laying the groundwork now to deal a knockout blow to the treasonous Left and all of its friends. It will involve the nationalization of the Internet and major news media, the removal of disloyal Federal judges without ceremony or apologies, the seizure of all of the assets of the wealthy Democrat donors, and a systematic purge of our institutions of Leftist and their allies. Let that sink in.

The military will play a role in this. Its role will be to stay in the barracks and obey the lawful orders of the Commander-in-Chief. As the crisis builds he will need to order the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the commanders of all troops in the Washington area, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Homeland Security, the directors of the CIA and FBI, as well as other key officials, to remain at or near the White House. When Trump gives orders, any hesitation on the part of these officials will result in their immediate dismissal and arrest.

Trump will have to make a nation-wide address to explain to the people that there is a conspiracy to overthrow the republic and that he is going to take any and all actions necessary to suppress it. As for the military, he should announce that any officer, NCO or serviceman who fails to obey lawful orders will be considered an armed rebel and deserter and dealt with accordingly, full stop. All Federal and state officials will be told that if they support in any way the Leftist conspiracy they will be guilty of treason and dealt with accordingly.

With the regular military in barracks, Trump should federalize the National Guard and call on Red state governors to call out the unorganized militia, as provided by law; there will be plenty of veterans ready to carry out this order and you will be surprised how many men will rally once they know they have legal authority to do so. The militia would be the sword hanging over local Leftists thinking of raising their heads. The Blue state governors who do not support the president will be given a choice: resign immediately or be deposed by force.

Needless to say, both the Internet and the major media outlets will be placed under total government control until they can be purged. The Silicon Valley Hindus will be on airliners back to Bombay so fast it will make their heads spin.

The assets of the wealthy Leftist and Democrats donors will have to be seized (and never returned to them) and the CEO’s of major corporations and heads of major institutions who have played along with the Left will be similarly treated and forced to resign their posts.

As for those who were witting elements in the conspiracy to overthrow the government, there will be no long, drawn-out “legal” process.

I know the above sounds extreme to most of you. it is extreme, but that is where we are now. If Trump allows the Left to play by their rules, this country is finished. If he decides to take the approach taken by Abraham Lincoln in 1861 (which included almost all of these measures) he may yet save the country.

Make no mistake. This is the point we have reached. Only a slobbering idiot believes that there is any peaceful, legalistic way to defeat forces bent on the destruction of America. As for the tactics needed to prevail, there is nothing new in them. Iron control of the armed forces and police, total control of the media, taking away the means of resistance from the enemy within, and the merciless treatment of the conspirators are all absolutely necessary.

We had all better hope Trump gets it and rids himself of the dithering pantywaists who have so harmed this first four years. He will need tough, hard men around him who understand the true situation and are not swayed by sentimental nonsense from an American past that no longer exists. No Judge Napolitano’s need apply.

If you believe that we can “trust the system” to ensure that the election is not stolen through legal chicanery, then tell me how you explain the General Flynn case, or the failure to arrest and convict a single Russiahoax criminal? Or the mad black DA in St. Louis charging law-abiding citizens for defending their home? Or the madness that reigns in Chicago, Seattle, New York and Portland? There is no more law in this country except that, as Mao said, comes out of the barrel of a gun.

Face the facts or stick your head in the sand. The choice is yours.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Southern Sage
August 13, 2020 1:10 pm

Amen! Little has been made of it by the lying MSM, but we now see Antifa and Black Idiot Militia marching with weapons. There are shootings everywhere in these cities yet the only ones investigated by media involve self defense shootings when a cop or non-communist White shoots a criminal precipitating legal action on behalf of the criminals. These Soros DA’s are criminals and in a sane world would be sitting in a Supermax examining their transgressions.
The same with all these other sorry SOB’s.

Jaz
Jaz
  Southern Sage
August 13, 2020 1:34 pm

I would rather have Fascism than Communism; at this point this is the only choice to ‘win’ America back.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Jaz
August 13, 2020 2:19 pm

Where is our Cincinnatus?

Boarwild
Boarwild
  Jaz
August 13, 2020 6:28 pm

Two sides of the same coin Jaz: under communism the State owns means of production. Under fascism the State leaves the means of production nominally in private hands but dictates the output.

All this drivel people have heard about fascism being “right wing” is nothing but a long-term BS smear; fascism -like communism – is on the Left side of the spectrum. It’s authoritarian/totalitarian & both subordinate the rights of the individual to that of the collective. Conservatives seek small govt & place the inalienable rights of the individual before that of the State.

Have some fun: explain this to some leftist & watch the melt down ensue.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Boarwild
August 13, 2020 7:50 pm

Boar.
There was nothing liberal about Fascism. Where is this conservative government that is small and people have rights they don’t take by force or persuasion. Does it have 300 million people.? 100 million?
There have been 5 Fascist countries that lasted any length of time and all were conservative. Germany,Italy, Spain, Brazil, and Japan. All were socially conservative.

Boarwild
Boarwild
  Fleabaggs
August 13, 2020 10:51 pm

Not “conservative” @ all but totalitarian. You either accepted the official meme & subscribed to the prescribed official-sanctified groupthink or you disappeared in the middle of the night & wound up in either a Gulag or Concentration Camp.

“Re-education” they would call it. And they never “shot” anyone. Anyone executed received “special treatment”. The Left loves their euphemisms.

Remember this next time somebody brings up “Sensitivity Training”.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Boarwild
August 14, 2020 10:14 am

Again. They were not leftists. They were staunch commie fighters unlike the US who fought to preserve leftism. How many Americans have been disappeared over that same length of time. exposing the commies in America. Everything you learned in public school was a lie.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  Southern Sage
August 13, 2020 10:21 pm

SS- thanks for the assesment. I might add encouragement, Team Trump at times, seems a military operation, not because of Donald Trump, but becuse it is.
Trump was either approached or did the approaching, I believe the former, before the campaign, early on his ranks were replete with military and it has been his main focus from the get.
Flynn is the Trump card.
He knows.
It is why he must be neutralized or silenced.
He certainly was in position to see the construct of this plan years ago, names, units, rank schedules.
Also, Trump was able to deftly eliminate some top brass from the board: Mattis, Kelly, McMaster, through promotion and dismissal.
I think they will try, but this is going no where good for them.

BUCKHED/BUY MORE AMMO
BUCKHED/BUY MORE AMMO
August 13, 2020 12:55 pm

I guess it’s more important to put to gay guys in a foxhole than to ensure the cohesiveness of a military unit.

I’d let the Generals etc be out on the front line…wearing high heels .

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 13, 2020 2:09 pm

I recall an article that mentioned a study conducted via the armed forces intelligence about the very topic of whether branches would choose the people or the government in the event of a revolution. This was an article almost 20 years old, but even at that time it was determined that the Marines would be the only loyal to the people at 90%. The Airforce was the opposite at 90% supporting the government. The Navy, it was found would have more of an impact at protecting the coasts and ports and the Army would be a 50/50 split. Even then it was doubtful the “defending from enemies foreign and domestic” would hold the military to its oath. I would figure now that it would be the warriors of old, Vietnam through Iraq and Afghanistan that would fight, but it would be against the current military and the jackboot LEOs that are no better than mercenaries fighting for a paycheck and whosoever pays that check.

mark
mark
  Anonymous
August 13, 2020 5:38 pm

I am prepared to in all ways and expect to have to fight. It fills me with dread and an ice cold determination. I’m 70.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  mark
August 13, 2020 7:12 pm

Each one get one.

mark branham
mark branham
August 13, 2020 3:08 pm

Just stumbled onto this podcast. Don’t know anything about anyone… but the message I’ve never heard before… could it possible be true:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=430&v=3NgsUjVJtT0&feature=emb_logo

can’t say, but hopeful.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 13, 2020 3:25 pm

I think you hit a note about the Reserves that deserves more attention. The Active Duty military are completely government employees, the military to the Reserves is a hobby. They are the true minute-men, who if America was burning would take a stand against the lib-tard agenda. They aren’t as beholden to the establishment for a cushy job b/c the majority of them have secured a job on their own accord and wits. Reserves do in a weekend what AD troops take all month to do, at pennies on the dollar what it costs to maintain the standing force, and deploy about as much to the fight. This even applies to many of the senior leadership in the Reserves, and there are more Reservists than you suppose. To a lessor degree, this applies to the guard, but varies significantly state to state.

Put it this way, who did Trump call to respond to COVID? Authorized a million Reservists.

The military has dramatically shifted though via diversity and political persuasion of it’s people. Would be interesting to see which side they fall on, and the ultimate question is, would they go as far as to fight each other?

Boarwild
Boarwild
  Anonymous
August 13, 2020 6:35 pm

It’s interesting to note that the Soviet Army employed Political Commissars who had power enough to check a military officer’s decision in the field & reverse it. In 1941 the invading German Army inflicted about a half dozen Stalingrad-sized defeats on Red Army forces. Stalin – under pressure from front commanders – lessened their influence & Soviet performance in the field began to improve. Ironically, the German Army instituted a similar concept of the political commissar around 1944 when things really started to go south.

Wonder how far the U.S. military is from that, “woke” officers?

Brian Reilly
Brian Reilly
August 13, 2020 6:51 pm

The answer to the posed question ”
Would the Military Side with Leftist Tyranny or with America?” is that the military will side with whomever thay are told to side with. Like John Roberts, the Military leaders are establishmentarians to their marrow. They mean well, but will act to preserve their rotten boroughs to the last civilian in the way. The LT’s, Gunny’s and Top Dogs will fall in line, they always do.

Dark times.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
August 13, 2020 10:21 pm

We may not have the fire power of the U.S. military, but like emperor Hirohito is alleged to have said: “We can’t invade the United States, there’s a redneck with a shotgun behind every bush”.
Believe you me, if push came to shove, the “good ol’ boys” would prevail.

Fred
Fred
August 14, 2020 6:53 am

The military will follow orders, just ask the Branch Davidians.

Realist
Realist
August 14, 2020 7:16 am

Yes, it is absolutely true that many of them showed great courage in battle against foreign enemies and made great personal sacrifices.

Name a military officer, still in service, that showed great courage in battle against foreign enemies and made great personal sacrifices?

John Hume
John Hume
August 14, 2020 11:06 am

Generally, I agree with this article, I’m not happy about the name-calling but that is neither here nor there. I think one item is overlooked. it would take the ground pounders, the combat troops, those men and women that actually do the front line work to carry out the orders to move on the President. I doubt the majority would carry out those illegal orders and that scenario would likely result in combat between personnel following the coup planners and patriotic troops. Plus when Mom calls her son, SGT. Jimmy and says “I don’t want you involved in this”, SGT. Jimmy is more likely to peel off that uniform and go home than arm up. I will admit that today’s military is far different than when I served, forty years ago, but there still is that patriotic blood required to motivate someone to walk into the recruiters’ office. Commissioned Officers are a whole different thing. For them, it’s career, career, career. They will kiss whatever higher ranking ass they have to in order to move up the ranks. They, however, are not likely to come out on top when they have to face SGT. Jimmy, the patriotic soldier just back from Afghanistan or Iraq, who knows how to deal with blood, gore, smoke, and dirt. If there was a coup attempt I doubt it would last long and I am certain it would fail.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  John Hume
August 14, 2020 5:15 pm

Hume
What name calling? This was tame so if it upsets you be forewarned.
We don’t have pink rooms and teddys for the delicate of mind here.

Michael J Clare
Michael J Clare
August 14, 2020 4:46 pm

As a Army retiree, for me, it’s simple.

If they side with them, they are them. Republican/RINO, police, military and media.

breezelow
breezelow
January 29, 2021 9:16 pm

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