SOCIETAL COLLAPSE

Guest Post by Hardscrabble Farmer

The Course of Empire: Destruction, 1836 Painting by Thomas Cole  Reproduction | 1st Art Gallery

Anyone interested in understanding the mechanics of human history must first and foremost understand the cycles of Nature and the nature of living things. There exist a balance in every closed system; creation and dissolution, growth and decay, life and death. There is no escape from this dynamic, no means by which one can exist without the other. Sometimes societies ascend, but eventually, over time, they collapse.

For a very long time America has benefited from exploiting the reserves of other nations- their labor, their resources, and their environments in a form of cultural strip mining. It has given the appearance of a sustainable system that required no effort to store surpluses or to build reserves for the future. There has been a perpetual live for the moment feel to our experience that was based on such illusory systems as credit and fiat.

These things are not real. They are manifest realities, things that exist only because a critical mass of people agree to believe in them rather than what is reflected by actuality. When such time occurs that a large enough number of people abandon their participation in that system, reality rushes in to the void left behind.

A large part of what we are seeing- as described to us by experts or media- is occult in nature, hidden not by design or subterfuge, but due to the ignorance or stupidity of the mass of men. They no longer recognize that a large part of what is taking place on the streets of cities like Portland and Minneapolis is simply a mating ritual for a generation that was so atomized and dissolute that they had no opportunity to make real life connections with the opposite sex except through electronic devices. Living beings cannot- despite the assurances of the Musks and Weils- exist by proxy.

They must eat, sleep, perform some activity during their waking hours, seek companionship, etc. These drives can be sublimated or suppressed either by societal controls or chemical dependencies, but they cannot be removed from our core drive. This is what happens when humans are thwarted from fulfilling their animal destinies- the drives of their particular species. If you eliminate the family, you do not stop fornication. If you eradicate healthy foods and a connection to its production, you do not eliminate hunger. Thus the dramatic rise in obesity and the ubiquity of pornography.

Everything exists in context, there is no way to eliminate the void left behind in a fatherless home without a corresponding flow of the feminine. A mind that has no reason will seek to replace it with an equal measure of emotion.

The Western Cultural experience that gained prominence and near global hegemony over the past several centuries is in terminal decline, accelerated by the opportunistic interference of competing cultural spheres, but predominantly by its own senescence. We are, in short, spent. What we are seeing is not a political or ideological struggle- again, manifest realities- but the natural process of a cultural expiration. The West is dying and with it all of the ideals and symbols that were attached to its rise.

Just as an elderly family member in their last days makes a point to give away their possessions, America is passing its treasures on; freedom of speech, the iconic symbols of Manifest Destiny like the statues of its heroes, even its own birthright to the rising of a new cultural expression, one that is less concerned with things like honor, nobility, truth and justice. None of those things exist in Nature, but rather are created and used like iron tools to achieve an end. Now that its energy is spent they serve no purpose, especially to the multitudes of others who share a far more dynamic and exuberant expression of collective identity.

This is a natural event, no different from a forest fire, but one which applies to the human species specifically. This is how we clear the ground for whatever is to replace us and we will serve as its fertilizer.

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ICE-9
ICE-9
August 30, 2020 12:37 pm

I posted this yesterday but I think it is also relevant here.

I have an opinion based on some prior experience overseas. I lived in Indonesia during their currency meltdown and downfall of US installed hatchet man Suharto. The environment here has the same feel, like the Deep State has lost and they’re going to steal and destroy as much as possible to punish the winners who are left to pick up the pieces. Once the genie is out of the bottle there is no getting it back in. Will be very turbulent and dangerous times.

I also remember stories told to me when I lived in Angola about the transition from Portuguese rule to independence between 1975-76. Angola had over 400,000 white settlers and most decided to return to Portugal rather than take their chances with the certain to be elected communist MPLA. Before they left they instituted a systematic program of infrastructure sabotage – tearing out rail lines, no maintenance on hydroelectric generators, not dredging the ports, even pouring cement down sewers. Seems to me that’s the objective of the color revolution now as there is no way this thing will gain critical mass and morph into popular support. Although of some size, media optics have it appearing way larger than it really is.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ICE-9
August 31, 2020 7:57 am

We need to rip and tear to shreds the old monopolist media for they are complicit with Marxism.

Gammer
Gammer
  Anonymous
August 31, 2020 9:23 pm

No Hwood =Jews. Look into the Jewish worldview, the old testament tells them that they will rule all other nations and Messiah will return and make us slaves under them. They are pushing this as hard as they can with fulfilling all the prophesies, unlimited immigration, chaos, degradation, subversion. Rebuild the temple, animal sacrifice, etc. Lots of vids on bitchute, lots of interviews to show their prophetic thinking. Scary.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
  Anonymous
August 31, 2020 10:59 pm

The major media have colluded to promote sedition in the U.S. We’re going to take a very critical look at all of it.

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BUCKHED/BUY LOTS OF AMMO
  WestcoastDeplorable
September 1, 2020 12:12 pm

Critical look my ass…..As John Wayne would say , ” Hangings To Good For them ” .

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
August 30, 2020 12:37 pm

The forest is burning. It had to happen. But it’s not the end. Evidence suggests that this is a controlled burn. It was necessary and while it’s not pretty to watch we’ll be in a better place when it is over. This is the end of the old and corrupt. A better, new beginning is coming. You and your family and me and mine and most of us who read and post here are going to be fine. IMHO.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  Francis Marion
August 30, 2020 12:41 pm

The controlled burn I lived through in Indonesia in late 1990s was a Globalist / IMF controlled burn. A lot hinges on who is doing the burning. What do they say, “Hope for the best, but plan for the worst.”

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  ICE-9
August 30, 2020 1:09 pm

It’s a good mantra. Fortunately, it’s not the same bunch running this burn.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Francis Marion
August 30, 2020 1:32 pm

Yes it is the same bunch. You delude yourself.

Illuminati: Founded in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt, a Jesuit (Catholic) Jew and open Satanist. The Illuminati’s goal is to destroy ALL governments and destroy ALL religions.

In these organizations, there is cross-membership, meaning many members may be members of more than one, or even several, organizations.

This is not a complete list of the “Brotherhood.” There are the Rosacrucians, the Palladium, and many others. ALL members take an oath to these various Organizations that supersedes their oath and allegiance to their country and their allegiance to God, even if they consider themselves to be Christians.

The Brotherhood is composed of wealthy Jews and wealthy non-Jewish elitists, but the Jews are actually in control from behind the scene. When the Jews eventually have TOTAL control of society, they will rapidly exterminate the non-Jews in these organizations.

Who is at the TOP?
At the very top of this Satanic hierarchy are the Rothschilds, (Jews with the former name of Meyer) and their extended family. They rule from “the City of London,” a mile square area in London where the conspiracies to take over the world are formulated. They, and eight others, rule the Committee of 300.

In addition there are 13 Top Illuminati Bloodline families, that include the Rothschild, Bundy, Astor, DuPont, Freeman, Li, Kennedy, Onassis, and Van Duyn families, who run the world, they and their extended families.

There is genealogical evidence that all these families are related to the monarchies of Europe, and that virtually every U.S. President is in one of these genealogical bloodlines. So, the idea that “ANYONE can become president” is another sinister myth perpetrated on the American public by the Zionist propaganda machine.

WORKING ORGANIZATIONS
of the Invisible Government

Secondly, there are the “Working Organizations,” the organizations who “get the job done” – the “job” being defined as Control of the WHOLE World, including control of: the entire food supply of the world, all housing, all commerce, all religion, all those allowed to be in positions of rulership, all sports activity, both commercial and private, the workforce of the world, and everything else in the world, not previously mentioned.

These are the organizations who devise, implement, and oversee the enforcement of, the Control and Enslavement of the populations of the world, the Destruction of liberty, the Destruction of all religions, and the Destruction of all governments.

Virtually ALL of the individuals in the “Working Organizations” are members of the “Brotherhood” as shown above.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  Anonymous
August 30, 2020 2:31 pm

I grew up down the highway a bit from where Richard Nixon grew up in the 1920s. His boyhood house is still standing today – a weatherboard 3 bedroom house about 1,200 square feet. Didn’t look very elite blood line to me.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ICE-9
August 30, 2020 3:10 pm

You couldn’t have looked far.

Nobody
Nobody
  ICE-9
August 30, 2020 11:47 pm

Do you know the story of how Nixon got into politics? He answered a newspaper ad by rich dudes seeking to create a candidate. Nixon=puppet of all puppets.

Machinist
Machinist
  Nobody
August 31, 2020 12:27 am

As did AOC.

Diaperless in NH ILuvCO2
Diaperless in NH ILuvCO2
  Nobody
August 31, 2020 10:15 pm

Give Nixon some credit, read Witness by Whitaker Chambers. Nixon was the head honcho in stamping out commies in the 50’s. aka the Hiss case. He may have capitulated later, but in that time he was a damn hero.

A. R. Wasem
A. R. Wasem
  Diaperless in NH ILuvCO2
September 1, 2020 12:37 pm

Good book – particularly today. Haven’t seen it mentioned in a long time.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  Anonymous
August 30, 2020 2:44 pm

Poisoning the well (or attempting to poison the well) is a type of informal fallacy where irrelevant adverse information about a target is preemptively presented to an audience, with the intention of discrediting or ridiculing something that the target person is about to say.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ICE-9
August 30, 2020 3:12 pm

Don’t be cryptic. Who is undermining what? An honest mind wouldn’t tilt imaginary windmills.

Wilson
Wilson
  ICE-9
August 30, 2020 6:13 pm

Who was the target? What were they going to say?
Anon posted something refuting FM’s point. What is preemptive about that? What was preempted? Don’t stoop to the level of Gaz and mgm with innuendos. We’ve had a very pleasant respite from that, don’t restart it, say what you mean.

Ken31
Ken31
  Anonymous
August 30, 2020 3:47 pm

How is it you managed to avoid naming any of the families that are peers to the Rothschilds?

Wilson
Wilson
  Ken31
August 30, 2020 4:23 pm

I thought he did.

In addition there are 13 Top Illuminati Bloodline families, that include the Rothschild, Bundy, Astor, DuPont, Freeman, Li, Kennedy, Onassis, and Van Duyn families, who run the world, they and their extended families.

Nobody
Nobody
  Anonymous
August 30, 2020 11:56 pm

Yeah, but really all that says is how pathetic everyone else is. We know who they are, what they do, and there are a lot more than you list. The real power is due to order followers. None of the control freaks shit would work if it weren’t for the masses of pathetically authoritarian brown nosing ladder climbers everywhere. But even knowing that everyone working in the gov is a known law violator and gets away with it really shows that the pathetically incompetent Americans in knownledge of law is the only way this entire culture of incompetence is sustained. It’s not about powerful people, it’s really about dumb people who follow orders of criminal people. Even almost all ‘smart’ people are complete dumbasses.

mark
mark
  Anonymous
September 2, 2020 12:47 am

Evil evolution is true as far as the current Invisible Hand…the Committee of 300…is running the show at this point in history;

The visable names behind the invisable hands:

The  COMMITTEE OF 300 — Who are they?

Frank Lee Speakin
Frank Lee Speakin
  Francis Marion
August 30, 2020 1:35 pm

FM- The REAL revolution will not be televised. Go back to the drawing board.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ICE-9
August 30, 2020 1:39 pm

But there are additional factors to consider in Indonesia. There are certain personalities and cultures that cling to a power structure. They need the authority. Over the centuries you have seen some degree of this in western Euro countries, but the need for individualism is much more prominent in western Euro countries. The cultural makeup of the US is still vastly American Individualism for those that are rural.

The urban areas are different and so are those that comprise that culture. I think this may suggest a controlled burn, mostly confined and bloody in the urban areas due to the suburban areas being the buffer zone. This is actually another reason this will be slightly different. No other collapse has had a people well armed and those that were armed of the individualist mindset. No other collapse has had a force of “ex”-military with decades of experience in battle situations number in the millions who took the oath of defending the nation and will continue to do so until death.

The biggest issue will actually be supply lines which is why food processing has been hit so hard. If you have to battle an opposing force you cut their supply lines. Notice that food has been bottle-necked in addition to many building supplies and other durable goods given the forced interdependence on globalism (again stripping the individualists). Of course the bottle-necks have occurred in the commie centers of food production – California and Michigan being two of the largest.

The problem for those desiring liberty is that many still believe this will end with a Trump win. It will not. People still believe they will have a 401k and Pension. They will not. People look at the rioters as the problem. They are not and should not be the focus of any countering of action, regardless of that avenue one wants to pursue to counter. Those the are the source are those that are always overlooked. The government individuals in power. The DA’s, Judges, Mayors, Governors and so on.

During the Revolution the troops didnt focus on the infantry. They focused on the officers.

Nobody
Nobody
  Anonymous
August 31, 2020 12:05 am

The Judges, Prosecutors, and ‘Law’ enforcement in the US are definitely the single largest criminal element in the world. If I were on a jury, I would give all of them the death penalty.

Someone asked me once if I would still do it if I had to pull the lever that drops the gallows floor and I told them I would pull that lever over and until every single one of them were dead. That is the only way the US will ever get better.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 31, 2020 8:07 am

When food and 401k’s run out all I can say is the patriotic right will fuck this place up epically and we will watch all the NWO scum run and scatter from vengeance like you have never seen. Think about it. There is a tremendous amount of pent up anger at politicians, theft, graft, BLM bullshit and injustice for decades. When this blow off top of pent up anger is released these treasonous bastards will experience a century of pain.

rhetro
rhetro
  Anonymous
September 1, 2020 5:01 pm

Obadiah, Obadiah…

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  Anonymous
September 1, 2020 12:22 pm

Anon Said: ” I think this may suggest a controlled burn, mostly confined and bloody in the urban areas due to the suburban areas being the buffer zone. ”

I have to disagree that the Suburbs will be the buffer zone. The Rural areas will be the buffer/line in the sand zone . Most folks in the Suburbs of the Demonrat run cities aren’t prepared and ill-equipped to fight for very long.

In the Rural areas especially in the South folks are well prepared,in some cases well trained for what’s to come .

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Francis Marion
August 30, 2020 2:31 pm

Whatever it takes to make yourself feel better about your future.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Eyes Wide Shut
August 30, 2020 8:11 pm

I have eyes that see. My future, assuming I survive the burn without getting destroyed, is going to be just fine. How’s yours looking?

Peter Horry
Peter Horry
  Francis Marion
August 31, 2020 10:27 am

The Republic will survive this burn, be it a controlled burn or a raging wildfire. No matter that a few old trees shall fall in the fire- we are doomed from birth to renourish the soil. To everything, there is a season.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Francis Marion
August 30, 2020 8:09 pm

Marxism/Globalism is dead.

javelin
javelin
  Francis Marion
August 30, 2020 11:56 pm

Seems to be escalating to me– several decades of fresh, young marxist/globalists pouring out of our universities WILL be the rulers of what’s left of the West for decades to come. The old guard is dying off, demographics ensure Western European culture and white majority nations will be no more.
Throw in the fact that a large % of those South American ( and 23 African Countries) practice socialism or full blown marxism.
Plus, China, the world’s next “super-power” is already communist and Russia has not strayed far from marxism at its core .

Europe is 100% controlled/ruled by an UNELECTED European Council who sets mandates and regulations on the entire continent from Brussels and the people and local politicos that the masses elect have no say at all.

Australia and New Zealand are completely disarmed and dishonored as they skulk around, with their heads down, in that 3 square mile zone that their govt has alotted……..

Canada has lost its west coast cities with over 50% of the city real estate now owned by Chinese– while a Leftist, globalist embarrassment retains power. Trudeau brags about Canada being the first “post-national” area on the planet… so much for dead globalism.

There is nothing natural or “normal cycle of nature and empire” about this. What is going in runs contrary to both natural cycles and the God who created them. This time it is for all the marbles, and unless these days are cut short by the Almighty, things will not be so bright for the continued existence of mankind.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  javelin
August 31, 2020 12:58 am

All is not lost for the West, hows it go?
One more time into the breach.

mark
mark
  ottomatik
September 2, 2020 12:51 am

Or as my ole three war Gunny use to say: “Hey diddle diddle…right up the middle”.

Ginger
Ginger
  javelin
August 31, 2020 7:59 am

Javelin, that was an enjoyable, nice, thought out comment.
Might I just add this, written for a people getting ready to go into some very hard times.
Isaiah 55:8-9
“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.”

Javelin
Javelin
  Ginger
August 31, 2020 8:43 am

Thank you for that.. wonderful, reassuring verse.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  javelin
August 31, 2020 11:42 am

Yeah, no.

The entire paradigm has shifted. We’re not on the same timeline we were four years ago.

Certain things are moving way to fast.

Socially/politically the heat under the frogs is being turned up way too quickly. They are hopping out of the pot and are discovering they are the majority, not the minority at a time when the king of frogs is sitting on the throne.

They’re discovering they have power.

What’s happening on the left is chaos and panic. It’s not a winning strategy. This is the beginning of the end for them.

Central banking as we know it is toast. My spidey sense says the king frog is here to preside over its bankruptcy and transition us out of it and into something new.

China’s days in NA are numbered too. They will have much of their property TAKEN from them. And for that matter, Canada’s days as a sovereign state are potentially numbered as well. But not in the way many might think.

Who here, knows what ‘manifest destiny’ is? Canadians are more at risk of that than they are of a UN or Chinese take over.

Canada has ZERO gold reserves. If the US (along with other world powers) transitions into a gold backed currency of some sort what happens to the value of the Loonie over night when Canada has ZERO reserves to back it?

How do we pay our bills with a worthless currency?

Is a nation that has to use another nation’s currency to function sovereign? Or is it a territory of that nation?

Life comes at you fast these days. It’s tough to keep up.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  javelin
August 31, 2020 1:56 pm

I believe it is an error to conflate “nature” with “empire” or nearly any societal phenomenon: Nature lacks free will and humanity does not. As for “natural cycles” and natural phenomena, read the 1961 abridged edition of D’arcy Thompson’s 1917 classic On Growth and Form, the never-surpassed exposition of the themes. Speculation on “cycles” of human and societal behavior remain simply that: speculation. Determinism is a school of philosophy that is pessimistic, depressing and open to challenge. Challenge it! The future–immediate, medium and long term–is open to change at any given moment, personally and societally. Sentient human life is far more unpredictable in the human sphere than is the case with the rest of the natural world.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Montefrío
August 31, 2020 9:40 pm

I respectfully disagree.

We are part of Nature and its cycles, not above or removed from it because of our intellectual capacity.

Much as each human has a life cycle, so to does each and every collective human organization.

Tree/forest, coral/reef, human/society. Analogous comparison.

Give a single example of any culture that has managed to exist longer than a millennium.

Diaperless in NH ILuvCO2
Diaperless in NH ILuvCO2
  hardscrabble farmer
August 31, 2020 10:24 pm

When you remove God from the equation and rely on the human mind, this is what you get: communism. And it ends in hell on earth.

RiNS
RiNS
  hardscrabble farmer
September 1, 2020 9:50 am

The Egyptians..

DRUD
DRUD
  hardscrabble farmer
September 2, 2020 12:30 am

This is exactly the type of conversation I always enjoyed around here. There are so many fine distinctions to be made. It is absurd to say that humanity transcends Nature in any meaningful way. It is equally absurd to say that we operate entirely within its bounds. The dinosaurs lived for a hundred and fifty million years or so, maybe a few million more, maybe a a few million less. And that simple rounding error in their timeline is orders of magnitude longer than all of human existence. But one could hardly argue that our existence has been less interesting.

Cycles are clearly evident in human civilization, but we do not (or at least have not) gone back to what it was a mere 10 or fifty thousand years ago. In other words, there is progress. Will King’s words of “Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” prove true or false? There has clearly been progress over the past 5-6 thousand years, ever increasing. Are we in the middle of that arc still or nearing its end? Will the tools of America (the refined tools of the Enlightenment) be passed on, perhaps even refined further in the next iteration? I would definitely like to think so. The issue is, of course, nuclear weapons. They have never before been available to tyrants and lunatics during times of great change. Are these natural? In a way, definitely. What could be more natural than unleashing the energy contained in the Strong and Weak Forces. The ones that hold literally every bit of matter together. On the other hand, what ridiculous, but brilliant, creature would ever devise such things?

The concept of manifest reality is an outstanding one and another thing that is singularly human (in the entire cosmos for all we know). We make things real on an individual level and of course on a societal one. It makes me wonder how far that idea goes. Does it, in fact, Turtle All the Way Down. Something like the Arc of LIFE (on a cosmic scale, as a fundamental force????) is long and bends towards consciousness? Consciousness is there at the beginning and the end? Where is the line between manifest reality and whatever other type of Reality is extant? Some might say I have just re-stated the anthropic principle, but I think its more of a tangent from it.

Anyway, excellent and though-provoking piece, as usual.

BUCKHED/BUY LOTS OF AMMO
BUCKHED/BUY LOTS OF AMMO
  javelin
September 1, 2020 12:23 pm

I wonder if Chief LLPOH can lead the charge and kick the Aussie’s back to reality ?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Francis Marion
August 31, 2020 7:57 am

The beginning of the end of the Fourth Turning starts in 2021…..

Known Associate
Known Associate
August 30, 2020 12:49 pm

Nice riff on what we talked about recently…

Sionnach Liath
Sionnach Liath
August 30, 2020 12:58 pm

I appreciated the analogy to the forest burning. There are in nature plants which require fire to germinate. And I agree with Francis Marion; this has to happen.

There is a passage in one of A. Conan Doyle’s later Holmes stories which I recalled the other day, thinking about current conditions in this country. The passage I refer to is in “His Last Bow” concerning the time just before the First World War:

There is an east wind coming…such a wind as never blew on England yet. It will be cold and bitter, Watson, and a good many of us may wither before its blast. But it’s God’s own wind none the less, and a cleaner, better, stronger land will lie in the sunshine when the storm has cleared…”

I have usually been an optimist through the tribulations of my life, and there have been a few of those – Viet Nam, the riots of the later 1960s, the recessions of the ‘70s, later ‘80s, and the disaster of 2007 onward. Three times in my life I have been able to resolve potentially violent encounters because I had the presence of mind to be armed at the time. Fortunately, none of these incidents required the use of force. At 81 years this old grey fox is still around and kicking.

It is difficult to admit that there will be no other alternative, but I have become convinced there will be blood in the streets, and quite possibly in the chambers of some of the socialist enclaves which deem it their right to dictate and control the lives of all the people. I do not advocate such violence, but I believe this time is sufficiently different that it is inevitable.
There are three rules which have guided me through most of my life. They are:

Independence + self reliance = self sufficiency.

Take care of yourself and those for whom you are responsible. Pay attention to local affairs. Develop your security based on your location and personal situation. Remember that survival is more about what is in your head, rather than what in is your pantry, or your arms locker.
If you can find a copy, get “Tappan On Survival”, Mel Tappan, The Janus Press, 1981, ISBN 0-916172-04-X

Cow Doctor
Cow Doctor
  Sionnach Liath
August 30, 2020 8:19 pm

Well put and in my mind wise words from an elder statesman, best to heed such wisdom.

ottomatik
ottomatik
August 30, 2020 1:04 pm

“A large part of what we are seeing- as described to us by experts or media- is occult in nature”
Talking about occult, take a look at the DNC 2020 logo. They have the Baphomet as plain as the nose on my face.
I tried to copy several places but having trouble.

Ken31
Ken31
  ottomatik
August 30, 2020 3:49 pm

It is a 5 point star and there are 50 of them on the USA flag. I am as convinced as anyone how evil these people are, but let’s be rational.

KaD
KaD
  Ken31
August 30, 2020 4:35 pm

It’s an inverted five pointed star.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  KaD
August 30, 2020 6:35 pm

With the facial outline of the Baphomet in contrasting blue.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ottomatik
August 30, 2020 6:43 pm

New Logo and Identity for 2020 Democratic National Convention by Zero

I just don’t see it.

Cow Doctor
Cow Doctor
  Anonymous
August 30, 2020 8:25 pm

comment image

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Cow Doctor
August 30, 2020 8:32 pm

In the link above at 6:43 showing the actual logo, it’s not vertical like the one you are showing. it’s cocked at an angle and could be any 5 pointed star.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  Anonymous
August 30, 2020 10:56 pm

You’re fuckin hilarious. All those DNC spirit cookers toasted that logo right before they dug into dinner.
But I get why you don’t see it, no worries.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ottomatik
August 30, 2020 11:46 pm

You’re even more fucking hilarious. In the official logo I posted at 6:43 if you can find a likeness of anything like that you have a hell of an imagination.
Click this link smartass and tell me where this image is and what direction the star is pointed. No one here made mention of toasting an image at the convention until just now so how does that count in this conversation. Maybe we didn’t want to watch that demonic crowd.
No worries.
https://eyeondesign.aiga.org/how-democrats-designed-branding-for-the-first-virtual-national-convention/

ottomatik
ottomatik
  Anonymous
August 31, 2020 1:03 am

You seem upset.
It makes me happy.

Anonymouse
Anonymouse
  ottomatik
August 31, 2020 8:04 am

You seem paranoid and superstitious. Finding demons in every street sign.

Lars
Lars
  Anonymous
August 30, 2020 8:29 pm

Mentally rotate the blue shape 90 degrees clockwise, and you’ll see it as it would normally appear. It took me a while, and the shape is somewhat abstract, but it’s there.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Lars
August 30, 2020 9:58 pm

That’s the point. It’s not rotated in the official logo. It’s just another 5 point star. These people are demonically controlled to such a point it isn’t necessary to rotate stars to prove it.

William Williams
William Williams
August 30, 2020 1:04 pm

Think I’ll go ahead and turn Japanese.

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest
  William Williams
August 30, 2020 1:11 pm

Samurai or Ninja?

Add Zen to one of the above selections for Auntie.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Auntie Kriest
August 31, 2020 2:01 pm

Zen will serve you well; it certainly has for me.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  William Williams
August 30, 2020 1:12 pm

No sex, no drugs, no wine, no women
No fun, no sin, no you, no wonder it’s dark..

No way.

Jaz
Jaz
  William Williams
August 30, 2020 7:40 pm

The Japanese have the highest suicide rate in the world.

j. eric smith
j. eric smith
August 30, 2020 1:21 pm

I really don’t like this post. The fall of our Republic is NOT a necessary “regeneration” IMO.
It is yet another treasonous fall of man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK4K7CV_PGY

ursel doran
ursel doran
August 30, 2020 1:30 pm

This summary review of what has been transpiring is also quite relevant, as with Soros and pals financing BLM / ANTIFA, now enmeshed with the Gates controlled organs of WHO, Fauci, et al, the time line and activities laid out in this article seem to be a fair representation of the last several years. Fourth Turning is upon us looks like.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16430/overthrow-america

Martin
Martin
August 30, 2020 1:47 pm

One thing ya’ know about the protestors is they have no day jobs to go to. The ones who had jobs have been replaced by Amazon or automation over the last 5-10 years. Millions more jobs will be automated, the simplest jobs first. There is nothing a laid off Mall clerk or forklift driver can do a robot or machine can’t do better. Either come up with a plan for tens of millions of permanently jobless or have riots forever.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  Martin
August 30, 2020 2:35 pm

Yeah, EBT amounts to state sponsored terrorism these days.

ursel doran
ursel doran
August 30, 2020 1:50 pm

Looting and destruction is sanctified as “Reparations”. Party on Dudes.
https://www.theorganicprepper.com/people-looting-okay/

overthecliff
overthecliff
August 30, 2020 2:10 pm

I used to read HSF articles and go away with a peaceful feeling inside. Harmony with the world. He is a man with a good grip on the world the way it is. This article doesn’t give me that good feeling. This article makes me think HSF would not be a good man to mess with. Being in touch with the world the way it is would make him as fierce and violent as he is he is peaceful.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
August 30, 2020 2:56 pm

“Our industries, our trade, and our way of life generally have been based first on the exploitation of the earth’s surface and then on the oppression of one another–on banditry pure and simple. The inevitable result is now upon us. The unsuccessful bandits are trying to despoil their more successful competitors. The world is divided into two hostile camps: at the root of this vast conflict lies the evil of spoliation which has destroyed the moral integrity of our generation. While this contest marches to its inevitable conclusion, it will not be amiss to draw attention to a forgotten factor which may perhaps help to restore peace and harmony to a tortured world. We must in our future planning pay great attention to food–the product of sun, soil, plant, and livestock–in other words, to farming and gardening.”
― Albert Howard, The Soil and Health: A Study of Organic Agriculture

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
August 30, 2020 3:57 pm

“There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen…” Robert E Lee

Uncola
Uncola
August 30, 2020 4:41 pm

More often than not, I have a sense of gratitude as I peruse TBP – for the insights and acknowledgements thereupon, and for those who typed the words.

There is much wisdom in this post… as well as the ensuing comments. I especially enjoyed the perspectives of
Sionnach Liath above and, for whatever reason, had envisioned him to be a much younger man. Just more affirmation, I guess – of how the flame in some people’s spirit burns eternal; even as bodies wither in time’s fire.

For obvious reasons, I’m reminded of a quote in the 2007 movie “No Country for Old Men“. It was one of those rare films that was quite close to being as good as the book. Anyway, there was a scene where a Texas sheriff (played by Tommy Lee Jones) sought the counsel of an older mentor by the name of Ellis (played by Barry Corbin) who said:

Whatcha’ got ain’t nothin’ new. This country’s hard on people, you can’t stop what’s coming, it ain’t all waiting on you. That’s vanity.

Indeed, there is an ancient inevitability to the changing of seasons and one need only read the Bible’s Book of Ecclesiastes to appreciate all of what happens under the sun.

A sense of fatalism can take two forms, resignation or acceptance, and surely these are in the eyes of the beholder.

In fact, these same conceptions were considered, somewhat, in my article from last summer entitled, “It is What It Is”:

An honest person sees a situation and knows what can be done and what can’t be done. Realists do what they can while acknowledging the outcome is beyond their control. Having the right scale of ourselves helps us to understand where we end and where the universe begins.

And

…Like a flower, a nation was planted onto the fertile ground. It grew and blossomed under the midday sun but now wilts and dies. The seasons come and go. The sun rises and sets. We are born, we flourish and fade. Everything turns.

It is what is.

Frank Lee Speakin
Frank Lee Speakin
  Uncola
August 30, 2020 5:50 pm

This all reminds me of the old Hitchcock movie “Rope” where the elites believe they can kill as an exercise in art, laughing it up as they sip Champagne. In the end it is they on whom God brings down the wrath. I have my popcorn ready.

COVID19=AGENDA21

Uncola
Uncola
  Frank Lee Speakin
August 31, 2020 12:18 am

Believe it or not, Frank, my non-cynical (nonsensical?) self was actually inspired by the recent Republican convention. It brought to mind the nostalgia of America as founded: A nation of ideas, principles, and values over petty political positioning and gamesmanship.

The speakers, many of them common folk, expressed their genuine appreciation for President Trump standing in the breach of making America great again or complete oblivion.

I found myself wondering if Trump actually is the nation’s last best hope. But, then, the realist within me speculated if Trump was one, instead, hired by the elite… and playing a role prepared for him in advance while generating enthusiasm in the same ways as seen in professional wrestling.

For years now, I’ve written regarding the “episodes” unfolding in the daily headlines as having a sort of movie-of-the-week, reality-TV-show vibe.

I want to believe. But I do wonder if The Puppet Masters don’t have the game rigged for 2020 as they seemingly did in 2016:

– if the scum-bag Democrat presidential candidate wins, then Marxist hell will begin immediately…

– but if Trump wins, the Marxist hell will still come… and right on schedule.

Can democracy save the nation at this point? Or is it all just for show?

Stay tuned and don’t touch that dial. They’ll be right back after a word from their sponsors…

BL
BL
  Uncola
September 2, 2020 1:23 am

Unc- Frank Lee is one of my puppets. I was frankly stating truth. What has gone on is murder which you can call a pandemic or a cheese sammich…. it is murder. Those who would off their fellow humans will be dealt with….period. God will bring justice for these lost souls.

I don’t watch political theater aka the presidential reality show so I was nowhere near that shitshow in my comment. The Hoi Polluted who have participated in this depopulation will find they are not safe from his wrath. I’m just a watcher Unc ,not a sucker who buys into the sheepshit.

Like I said, I have my popcorn at the ready.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Uncola
August 31, 2020 2:12 pm

Ah, but please don’t forget it is also what you make of it.

ursel doran
ursel doran
August 30, 2020 5:34 pm

Cloward Piven strategy to install Socialism explained, embraced by guess who, as to source, tactics and end results, ongoing NOW, with check list of actions already done seen every day.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cloward-piven-strategy-destroy-america-resurgent-amid-blmantifa-led-riots

javelin
javelin
  ursel doran
August 31, 2020 9:19 am

Excellent link… I often reference Cloward/Piven and Saul Alinsky when I want clarity on the tactics of the enemy. Reading Agenda 2030 gives discernment on their End Game goals.
Little do 99.9% of them know who they really serve and the dictator who will come once the throne is setup for him…. 3 1/2 years of peace and then it will get really, really bad for all of humanity.

Foot in the Forest
Foot in the Forest
August 30, 2020 6:47 pm

Try talking to the citizens of Los Alamos New Mexico. The US government conducted a controlled burn there. They ignored the weather forecast for high winds because they new better and things would be controlled by them. They lost half the town. I have been thru a forest fire and while my home survived i was burned and the dozer needed extensive repairs. I have every intention of fighting the coming fire as best i can far from home. BTW the DOZER is 73 years old, weighs 3000lbs sans blade and is fueled by gasoline. Try that on for size fighting a crowned monster, the coming fire will be all that and more.

Voltara
Voltara
August 30, 2020 8:01 pm

I agree with HSF, that unconscious influences are causing the madness we’re seeing everywhere.

I was told several years ago by an astrology “expert” that 2020 would be a bad year. I can’t recall exactly but it was something about the same alignment of pluto and saturn which occurred prior to both WW1 and WW2. The good news is the alignment breaks on 21st of December.

Most people are unconscious. They spend their lives in a dream state, reacting to events. Those who are most obsessed with power, control and satisfying their unquenchable greed are MOST under the influence of external events. Hence the state of the world and the perpetual failure of our “leaders”

Cow Doctor
Cow Doctor
August 30, 2020 8:15 pm

HSF is spot on, nature and life are cyclic. Are we not in the Fourth Turning of the current saeculum? Where we come out the other end though is more of a debate in my mind. I believe only the Big Man upstairs truly knows and it’s for him to know and us to find out. I refuse to totally give up on this experiment of true Liberty we call the United States. It will be changed for sure because the only thing certain besides death and taxes is change. For the better I hope and pray, but we may no longer be a nation from sea to shining sea. Balkanization is highly likely. I refuse to give up the fight, ya got to keep on moving forward. Get right with your maker and those that you truly love for we will soon be writing history that will be talked about and examined for centuries to come.

Sue Robinson
Sue Robinson
  Cow Doctor
August 30, 2020 10:04 pm

So many brilliant comments. Anonymous, HSF, Cowdoc, Sionnach, et al. I guess this is tonight’s seminar for this ole ranchwoman. Even though the news is troubling, I take a lot of comfort from all of you. Tonight, just at twilight, I am away from the homestead and over at my tiny cottage above Puget Sound in WA state, and finally, the sea winds are carrying some sweet rain my way.
I appreciate all of you, every one. Thanks.

Gloriously Deplorable Paul
Gloriously Deplorable Paul
  Sue Robinson
August 30, 2020 11:27 pm

I second that sentiment. I vastly appreciate the knowledge, wisdom and insight I find here. There’s none like it that I’ve found anywhere else.
Thanks most of all to Jim Quinn who makes it all possible against increasingly difficult odds.
I hate to sound like a broken record but if you find value here please dig down and send the man some financial support. We’ll all be better off for it.

Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
  Cow Doctor
August 31, 2020 1:34 am

I agree Cow Doc. It’s a new era we’re birthing but I don’t think I’ll like it. I see more liberties lost.

youknowwhoiam
youknowwhoiam
August 30, 2020 9:17 pm

If everything is normal, one can’t determine where the disease is in your society. We are seeing now, aren’t we? We aren’t the only ones seeing it. You can be damned sure our intelligence community is logging just who and where the the disease is. This all has to happen before a cleanup can be executed. IMO

Vektor
Vektor
August 30, 2020 10:14 pm

For a very long time America has benefited from exploiting the reserves of other nations- their labor, their resources, and their environments in a form of cultural strip mining.

When I look at places like China and India, I see millions lifted out of poverty. Giving people education and jobs and transforming raw materials into useful products is not exploitation.

Systems in the West are designed to weather ‘corrections’. The West isn’t ‘dying’, it’s being killed by the usual suspects.

javelin
javelin
August 30, 2020 10:17 pm

Nice selection with the Cole painting.. I have 3 of the series Prints in nice frames in my finished basement– Consummation, Destruction and Desolation… interesting and in accordance with your fine piece is how the Desolation State of empire painting is closer in resembling the Arcadian State of early empire than the Consummation state of Empire at its peak…
No doubt we are in the destruction stage

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 30, 2020 10:55 pm

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Just another cohencidence, goyem. Don’t connect the dots.

22winmag - TBP's Jewish Yankee Mormon Shit-poster
22winmag - TBP's Jewish Yankee Mormon Shit-poster
August 31, 2020 4:12 am

Gun are a loud, fancy way to die. A brick doesn’t get as much news.

American prophet of God vs. Obama

and another vs Clinton

John Galt
John Galt
August 31, 2020 7:54 am

Here, I will sum it up for you HSF…..

“All good things come to an end”
“This, too, shall pass”
“Let them reap what they sow”
“A fool and his money shall soon part”

old white guy
old white guy
August 31, 2020 8:02 am

“A mind that has no reason will seek to replace it with an equal measure of emotion”. A couple of observations made some time ago may be in order. I found it interesting how hate fills up a rational mind and eliminates rational thought. That education is not just the dumbing down of the populace the “socialization” disguised as education teaches them that feeling is the same as thinking, and we know it is not.

Panzerlied
Panzerlied
August 31, 2020 11:26 am

America is passing its treasures on; freedom of speech, the iconic symbols of Manifest Destiny like the statues of its heroes, even its own birthright to the rising of a new cultural expression, one that is less concerned with things like honor, nobility, truth and justice. None of those things exist in Nature, but rather are created and used like iron tools to achieve an end. Now that its energy is spent they serve no purpose, – It seems that HSF has chosen to adopt a rather fatalistic approach to our destiny and has chosen to either ignore, or overlook the ultimate over riding command and control superiority of divine providence.
We are a nation under God and have been given an unconditional covenant by said God. The United States is the New Jerusalem and a regathering of the thirteen tribes of Israel as prophesied in the Bible. A remnant will always remain to perpetuate honor, nobility, truth and justice, which according to the God of Israel, have a very definite purpose in maintaining order in a civilized society after the demonic edomite tares are gathered into bundles and burned.
The house of Jacob will be a fire, the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble. They will burn among them, and devour them. There will not be any remaining to the house of Esau.” Indeed, the LORD has spoken. Obadiah 1:18. It’s the Esau/Edomites that make up the leadership roles of BLM and other subversive groups today.
HSF may forecast the destruction of order and a return to the bush, but many of us anticipate a much brighter and orderly future with Christ ruling as King in the New Kingdom.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Panzerlied
August 31, 2020 3:49 pm

Naturalistic, not fatalistic.

The order of things was created by God, I’m just an observer. I just call it like I see it.

But I hope you’re version is the correct one.

suzanna
suzanna
  hardscrabble farmer
September 1, 2020 5:11 pm

HSF,
I didn’t like what you said. Second reading was helpful. I think you
said the USA has burned it’s bridges through duplicity and greed.
What we see is what it is and it is what was wrought. Violence begets
violence. Lost trust is very hard to regain. Not all people are ignorant
but the desire to fit in and belong is the biggest draw. Thus the gadgets.
People are more in love with gadgets than other people. And God is the
one offended. Bring on the abortions! Once the greed trumps all and
people will do anything to get ahead/make more $$$$, “doing the right
thing” falls to the wayside. We are in the abyss/there is no balance/ and
revenge against the system and the inhabitants within, is building.

Will there be a miracle? Can the country be saved? Doesn’t look good.

Suzanna

Ginger
Ginger
August 31, 2020 6:35 pm

One can easily get discouraged during these times with everything being so negative. But take heart the average person is ready to respond when bad things happen, there is a bit of goodness in most of everyone.
Saw this the other day on the news, and know the area very well. Video is down a bit.

https://www.witn.com/2020/08/27/4-boaters-rescued-from-capsized-vessel-in-beaufort-inlet/

SeeBee
SeeBee
August 31, 2020 8:01 pm

Profound, HSF.
And when I begin to see less of this…comment imagecomment image

And more of this…comment imagecomment image

I’ll know we will be ready to begin anew.

ottomatik
ottomatik
August 31, 2020 8:39 pm

HSF- Ive read it a couple times now. You know, I’m slow. But can offer a couple of more thought out reflections.
Senescence. It was a big one I’d not heard before, decay, decadence, and the consequences of those. It really is the one word that captures the essence of the piece. That and the title, Societal Collapse, but senescence is that plus more with less.
The West is not clearly defined in the piece, accoutrements of the west are alluded to but not precisely set out. So I imagine there could be a wide range of Western Conceptions.
Marxism for instance, East or West? Banking? The hinterlands that have swayed East and back West ephemerally, blending, the birth of the West in the Med, the North, Christianity, technology.
I kind of pile all that up mentally and imagine a series of Turnings occurring in which the West has been spent, or will finally be spent this particular saeculum. Trying to maintain a high level view, high enough to talk of the end of the West, I would say its possible, the most possible of any time since its inception, wherever we can casually agree that is. And the reason I say this is not senescence, although no doubt contributing, but rather technology. Senescence, is constant natural feature as you so eloquently laid out, technology is not.
Technology is unnatural, and a key feature of the West. The West could survive another round of senescence induced Turnings, if the technology exponent wasn’t so elevated. Rome would be my justification, as we approach Calligulan levels of decadence. The West could survive this bout as well if were not for the tech exponent. The tech provides extinctional dangers on multiple levels, one, our use of tech could become so exorbitant that senescence finally sets it for good, when trillions of fat ass’s hooked to feeding tubes finally robo strip mine the last iota of natural sustenance from a beyond polluted rock.
Unfortunately, there will be many more saeculum before that happens.
Another would be through sloth and degeneracy we lose control of the tech, or turn our souls over to it, or it becomes so concentrated that a schism occurs within humanity, a fork. This is increasingly worrisome, and could occur in this crisis, although it is not clear if the remnant would be of the West or not.
Additionally, tech has provided the use of weapons now powerful enough to get it done. This would be the most likely, end of the West, scenario, in this 4th Turning, in my opinion. I can only imagine the darkness of the Super Weapons on deck.
I dont see it this round, there is still much light in the torch, enough to stave off the burn it all down crew for another saeculum.
Any way’s thanks much, I hope it is well on the farm, and the summer was bountiful and all are in good health.

Gammer
Gammer
August 31, 2020 9:14 pm

I saw a vid the other day from a guy who studied more than 100 cultures/societies that died and the final issue that determined their Fate was the acceptance of Tranny’s. Must be because they are insane and acceptance of Insanity turns everyone else off. Probably the good/sane people then leave, insanity left to it’s own devices probably eats itself pretty quickly. Look no farther than today’s left, cancelling and eating it’s own over the tranny women sports folly. Turn the women away from the left and they will no longer be a major party. Let’s hope it stops there.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Gammer
August 31, 2020 9:43 pm

Got a link for that video?

Diaperless in NH ILuvCO2
Diaperless in NH ILuvCO2
  Gammer
August 31, 2020 11:07 pm
ottomatik
ottomatik
  Diaperless in NH ILuvCO2
August 31, 2020 11:23 pm

Im actually surprised that track is available on Youtube.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ottomatik
September 1, 2020 6:50 pm

Yeah. The censorious shitbags that run youtube are less so than the shitbag that deletes comments here.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  Anonymous
September 1, 2020 10:55 pm

Eat.a.Dick.

ursel doran
ursel doran
September 1, 2020 1:47 am

Socialism, Democratic or otherwise, pick a version, properly reviewed.
https://www.goldmoney.com/research/goldmoney-insights/a-critique-of-modern-socialism

ZombieDawg
ZombieDawg
September 1, 2020 1:50 am

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ursel doran
ursel doran
September 2, 2020 1:14 am

New York is dead and shuttered, Chicago is gone per Armstrong below, Minneapolis, Portland, San Fran and others, we all know the list. Guaranteed to get worse, and repair looks to be impossible in any foreseeable time frame. Real U6 unemployment is still at least 25%, and bankruptcies and layoffs are still ongoing. Stock market MUST be kept up at any cost.
Canary in the coal mine is Mr. Market is crawling interest rates up a bit.

Chicago – Flight from the City

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  ursel doran
September 2, 2020 6:40 am

Maybe the murder of the cities is a slightly more sophisticated Pol Pot type ploy to get the people back out to the countryside.

Who knows.

I do know what a cyclical change is and we’re in the middle of one.

Great commentary throughout.