Guest Post by Jim Kunstler
One thing you could say about the three Trump campaign lawyers’ joint press conference at high noon, Thursday: it sure wasn’t slick. But then, are we now such a nation of lobotomized chumps that our chief criteria for any public acting-out of an acute national melodrama is slickness of presentation? I guess we like our crises fluffed, like a Caitlin Jenner spot on The View. This one, though, is raw and savage.
And so there stood Rudy Giuliani in that cramped briefing room, with dark rivulets running down both temples as if he were sweating blood (more likely, hair dye), cracking jokes at times, and laying out some rather harsh predicates for pending election fraud lawsuits. Next up, the usually demure Sidney Powell appeared boiling over with grief and rage at the hijacking of American democracy, and the Deep State’s long-running connivance with all that, yielding nearly to tears at moments as she sketched out the sinister history and associations of the Dominion and Smartmatic vote systems — and the utter failure of public officialdom to monitor any of it for many years. Then Jenna Ellis, much in command of herself, emphasized perhaps half a dozen times, and quite sternly for the obdurately seditious news media, that the actual evidence would be revealed in court and that the day’s presentation was a mere overview. Got that? In court.
The news media didn’t get the message — on purpose, as usual — and so the stories flew all over the Internet’s gaslit echo chambers that the three lawyers failed to make a case. Later that night, Tucker Carlson piled on Sidney Powell for not sharing what she intends to present in a court of law. Apparently, she hung up the phone on him. Let’s face it, the lady has had a hard month, and a hard year, having to battle the malevolent and depraved Judge Emmet Sullivan over the dismissal of the case against General Flynn (as ordered by the DOJ), and now this colossal hairball of a momentous and historic election fraud case. (If I were her, I’d be deep into the George Dickel No. 12 Sour Mash by eight o’clock that night, Tucker Time.)
All right then, Mr. Trump’s lawyers have set the table for this epic political food-fight with just a few weeks to file and proceed, and we’ll have to stand by like grownups and see how it all plays out in the courts. There may be other sideshows and shenanigans in the various state legislatures over electoral college slates and such, along the way, but meanwhile I want to remind you that there are many other layers in this burgeoning mega-crisis worth being mindful of.
One, of course, is the train of tyranny that would follow the crooked and demented Ol’ White Joe Biden into power, should he manage to be sworn in (more on that below). From the actions so far of his, ahem, transition team, Mr. Biden (or the shadowy gang behind him) is aiming to bring on an official regime of speech suppression, news suppression, cancel culture, race hustling, gender warfare, and other portfolios of Wokesterism to the federal agencies. Do you have any idea how much anger and opposition that will provoke? Do you suppose that half the population will sit still for struggle sessions over white privilege?
Another layer is the Deep State itself. This evil empire is close to prevailing in a final act of sedition after four years of contemptible, serial intrigues. The Justice Department, the FBI, the CIA and all the other spook agencies will have a free hand in surveilling US citizens and attempting to control whatever they do. The whole RussiaGate case (such as it might be under John Durham) will get towed out to sea and dropped overboard in cement slippers. Comey, Brennan, Clapper, McCabe, Strzok, Gina Haspel, Andrew Weissmann, and the rest of the gang will all skate — some of them possibly pirouetting back into federal offices.
Facebook, Twitter, and Google will be enlisted as social controllers (this has already happened, of course) to guard against the sharing of undesirable information. Gawd knows what sort of misadventures in foreign lands this gang will blunder into. I won’t even bother to outline the possible economic perversities and experiments the new regime might attempt to try because of the following…
…which is the king-hell financial fiasco that will attend a Joe Biden presidency and the monumental unwind of activity that will present as implacable depression. The global banking system is ten-months pregnant with Rosemary’s Baby. The Covid-19 winter lockdowns will put a bullet in the brain of any remaining small businesses, and the giant zombie companies are next to fall. Rent, mortgage, and loan forbearances run out in December. If they are not renewed, many families stand to lose their homes; if they are extended, many creditors and landlords will be screwed, unable to meet their own obligations.
Few in the media or in officialdom seem to comprehend that unpaid debts thunder through the system, and eventually undermine the whole system, especially the currencies that circulate like the system’s blood supply. Not only will there be no money for Progressive economic experiments, there will not be enough money to arrest the fast-sinking standard of living in America. Biden & Company, so triumphal in these days of dwindling daylight, are in for shock with 2021.
In the looking-less-likely event that Mr. Trump prevails in this election quarrel, he and his people will be subject to exactly the same thing, which is the onset of the epic crisis or “fourth turning” that I call the long emergency. It will include an additional layer of Antifa/BLM anarchy in the streets on top of epochal economic hard times. How America manages to emerge from that will be the $64-trillion question of the ages. Neo-feudalism, a dark age, a new stone age… who knows…?
As a kind of PS, and per what I mentioned above, there are the lingering questions as to whether Ol’ White Joe Biden can manage to make it to the inaugural podium in any case. Apart from his failing mental faculties, there are the matters around his and his family’s shady business dealings in foreign lands over recent years, especially the money garnered from ventures in China linked to China’s intel services. There are legitimate concerns about Mr. Biden being a security risk as president. They are not going away.
Finally, a few words of encouragement to those of you almost terminally disgusted with the dishonesty and bad faith of the people who have been running things in our country: this is not a place like Russia in 1989. The Soviet overlords had a captive press, of course, but the Internet was barely a larval presence in world culture then. All the Russian people had to fight the immersive milieu of lies they lived in was the mimeograph machine and the verbal grapevine. We have much better resources for distributing information in America today, despite our tribulations with the corporate news media and their Silicon Valley cadres. We have a pretty sturdy alt-news network and many diligent entrepreneurial reporters who are able to get the news out. It will get out, and it pays to remember that truth has Godly powers of its own.
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Here an (uncut) recording of Giuliani’s press conference yesterday
The old forms of settling disagreements don’t work anymore. The time for solutions through other means has arrived. God help us all.
hmmm…..whatever happened to solutions are obvious??
He was wrong.
and it pays to remember that truth has Godly powers of its own
Let us hope that that is indeed the case. I am not sanguine, the Swamp is deep and the corruption fouler than the contents of a septic holding tank. The corruption fills EVERY federal agency, it sloshes over into the courts, the policing agencies, it seeps deep into the blue states and their legislators and courts and the sewage and rot overflow throughout the media and its handlers. I am like Diogenes, I hold up my lantern and see nothing but a dark abyss ahead. Half of the population exults in the idea of a Biden presidency, that half is the portion that Ayn Rand described as the looters. They only exist because the producers haven’t cut them off…yet. I think that cut off is coming.
Should the ancient fount of corruption aka: Joe Biden prevail, all the horrors that Kunstler mentions will manifest times ten. Biden’s statement about the greatest voter fraud machine ever made is fact and the profound issue is that the fraud is so pervasive that there is no honorable man or group to apply for redress.
America is Rome in the final days and the global corruption only needs the death of the republic so they may sally forth with the Armies of Mordor to finish the deal. The children of America have been dumbed down and brainwashed for generations, they will welcome their oppressors because that is what they have been programmed to do and only when the awful truth of what they have brought in causes them to suffer will they pause and reflect and….it will be too late by then.
Let us hope you are wrong…..
The hope is that the Fraud can be proved….
That is all—all else is darkness…….
MyGirl writes above:
Honestly, at this moment it does appear The Swamp is now a tsunami in progress of overwhelming Team Trump.
For the past four years, we have witnessed sheer power seemingly crash in waves – each one higher than the last as measured by historical consequence: Russiagate, Mueller, impeachment, Covid, and, now, a stolen election and the construction of a media narrative both appearing to warp reality through a demonstration of blind will. And since the election, there has been more strangeness than can be adequately processed on any given day.
In response? These:
– Patriots march on D.C. in support of Trump, but not one Republican politician shows up in support.
– Civil attorneys assuming the responsibilities of the FBI and DoJ in uncovering the most nefarious crime(s) in American history
– Rudy sweating Grecian Formula hair dye down his cheeks
– Fox New’s Tucker Carlson and Trump attorney Sydney Powell in a public catfight over an apparent lack of real evidence.
Accordingly, would anyone be surprised if one or more of Trump’s attorneys Rudy, Powell, or Lin Wood get Seth Riched anytime soon?
Can you imagine the pressure coming to bear on those who have signed affidavits of election fraud?
Trump against the Swamp does appear to have been a David & Goliath scenario from the start. But, if, at any time in the coming weeks, he begins to talk about continuing the fight outside of the system via his newly-proposed Trump Television, or regarding his running for president again in 2024, we’ll know we were had; at least from the standpoint of placing hope in political remedies.
Well, Uncola, here’s a glimmer of hope…let us hope it grows and grows….
Seems the Dominion company didn’t show up for a fact finding hearing in Pennsylvania. Wonder why? If it goes to court the parties have to offer discovery material and I daresay los Dominion gente may just vamanose into their beeg jets…for parts unknown.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dominion-voting-lawyers-abruptly-backing-out-pennsylvania-fact-finding-hearing
Yes Uncola. I wait for the Big Orange to show his cards.
https://tennesseestar.com/2020/11/17/famed-attorney-lin-wood-blows-the-doors-off-alleged-georgia-vote-scam-predicts-new-election/
Uncola,
Notice that ALL of the “responses” are ineffective and lack strategy. The deep state, while large, is actually MUCH smaller than the block of pissed off Americans.
Why does the deep state keep winning?
It is because they operate very strategically with EVERY move. Americans aren’t doing that which is the very reason Americans are LOSING.
There are much better strategic moves Americans can be making but they are not doing ANY of them.
We can swamp the whole swamp by declaring independence from the whole thing as a final backstop but for some reason Americans won’t do the hard work for self governance. There are literally infinite strategic moves that could be made but it’s not happening.
When you haven’t done ANYTHING then EVERYTHING is possible.
Proven where? In corrupt ‘courts’? Prove the unprovable? Modern ‘voting’ was designed for fraud from the ground up. Americans don’t even lawful voting actually is because they have never seen it or heard of it. Blackbox voting is a lawful impossibility.
There is a reason that the lawful solution starts with all ‘judges’ being indicted, convicted and executed. If the lawful solution is not pursued and achieved then it will be all out war. The only way to avoid war is for the grand Juries to start issuing indictments and presentments but in order to start indictments, we the accusers MUST present the valid cause to them. I have tried to access but more people are needed. Prosecutors are obstructing justice by blocking equal access to our grand juries. Accessing grand Juries needs to become the only activity to pursue.
Still waiting for people to awaken to the protections of law….
When government gets to work, things really begin to pile up.
Sadly, MG, you are right. We are in a slow descent into a dark age. You are so right and I wish you weren’t.
I hope I am wrong….I fervently hope and pray I am wrong and will rejoice to be proven wrong. Til then I watch the horizon and wait….
Me too, M.G., me too. Just one time I would like to see some ass kicking of these smug deep state asswipes. I want to see the media scramble before the truth like vampires in sunlight. I want to see all the liberal and rino assholes that I know shit their pants.
But it never comes. Does it. It’s always just over the horizon.
Llpoh mentioned Hunger Games I believe. I think you and he are right.
This does not end well.
Hope and prayers is not enough. Divine providence requires ACTION.
I love the way you worded that, MyGirl. Very nice writing on a terrible subject.
Over the years she has learned a lot and contributes greatly.
It is deer season and I am porch hunting.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. If you aren’t doing that you have your head in the sand or up your butt.
The sad, sorry, contemptible bottom line is that we Americans took the deal years and years ago. We saw it coming. We knew it was too good to be durably true. We took the deal anyhow, because it was too much trouble not to take the deal. In exchange for a cheap trinkets and gew-gaws, entertainment (especially sports and pornography) and endless empty promises of enjoy today, pay tomorrow, we let the rotten parasites take it all. Cities, towns, schools, companies, associations of all sorts, religious organizations, you name it. And all politics and governments, courts, cops and all. They got everything they wanted, and now they don’t need or want to pretend to have any use for us. You think Barr, or Pelosi, or Schiff or Trump, or Newsome or Whitmer or Powell, or… are going to miss any meals in the coming mess? Nope. Not a one. They might get whacked, but they won’t miss a meal.
So don’t bitch! You enjoyed it, profited from it even if you did not cheer it on. So did I, no exceptions for anyone. We will have to rid ourselves, our society, of the worst of the parasites, just don’t feel to smug about it. There aren’t any really clean hands to be found.
Truth.
Spoke against and voted against this lunacy going on 50+ years now.
Those who remember the past are dragged, kicking and screaming, into a repeat of it by the majority who’ve forgotten history.
We took the deal? Speak for yourself. There were many who didn’t ‘take the deal’ but rather, used the ‘deal’ because it was the ONLY deal in town. The same issue presents itself now, short of violent revolution, if Biden is elected then the DEAL is done. What are you going to do about it, Trumptard?
Sorry, I am the person who stood by the tracks and watching an oncoming train wreck, I hollered and carried on but no one listened to lonely ol’ moi and when the train wrecked all the people shook their heads and said….’who saw THAT coming?”
My, Unless you went all Ted Kaczynski and lived in a hovel, fertilizing your own garden, you were in the game. No shame in that, it was the only game in town, and I hope you did (materially) well with it. What choice did you have? Move to a materially worse place with an even better developed system of corruption? You could have taken vows as a nun, I suppose but that seems a bit unlikely.
A whole bunch of people saw this coming. Still, we did not rebel when it might have done some good. Too much trouble. We re elected the same incumbents. Yes My, you voted for incumbents, unless you live in a Dem district/state. So did I, that was the only deal available.
We all voted for the same party time after time, even when it was clear that they held us in contempt and played us for fools.We stayed around when it was obvious that our state/city was going to shit because the kids were in school the commute would have been a bear, etc, etc, etc. Too much trouble.
You see what I mean. It is a broad society thing, in a time of incredible change. Really, really smart people have figured out how to play the rest of us with cool machines and killer apps, and now it is (they think) their game. They are wrong, but it will be an ugly, decades long effort to get rid of them, and all because we saw it coming and did nothing, when it would not have taken much.
In the Law Of Attraction: if you don’t learn the lesson, it will become harsher until the lesson is learned. Apparently the majority of America is too fat, dumb and comfortable to grasp it.
My, Unless you went all Ted Kaczynski and lived in a hovel, fertilizing your own garden, you were in the game. No shame in that, it was the only game in town, and I hope you did (materially) well with it. What choice did you have?
Your pragmatism is revolting.
A whole bunch of people saw this coming. Still, we did not rebel when it might have done some good. Too much trouble.
Now I’ll say speak for yourself… I spent a night in the porcelain palace and months and big dollars working on pro se court cases fighting. You?!?! There were family members and Church members that stood by. NO ONE ELSE. What did you do?
We stayed around when it was obvious that our state/city was going to shit because the kids were in school the commute would have been a bear, etc, etc, etc. Too much trouble.
I pulled mine to home school them and added even more cost to my life. All the while I paid to ‘educate’ my children’s future enemies. That one really pisses me off and so it deserves an ‘eat shit asshole’ response. That would be to you BR.
Yes My, you voted for incumbents, unless you live in a Dem district/state. So did I, that was the only deal available.
Wrong again! If enough people had withdrawn their consent (NOT VOTED) there was yet a chance that we we could have avoided what is coming! I’m sick of the woe is me…. what could we have done crowd. How ’bout putting even a tiny bit of effort into it?
You see what I mean. It is a broad society thing,
No just the vast majority of lazy asses who had better (more self-centered) things to do. Like you.
They are wrong, but it will be an ugly, decades long effort to get rid of them, and all because we saw it coming and did nothing, when it would not have taken much.
That much you have right… but I’m betting we won’t see much of you in the process.
OtherDan – so you worked on court cases representing yourself. Did you win? Or were you eaten by the system? Were you tilting at windmills?
You educated your own children – well done – but complain about the cost of it. You are not alone. It is your responsibility to educate your children, and many of us did not send our children to public schools. It cost you? It is your responsibility. Whatever the cost.
You complain about paying for public schools. You did not have to pay, or pay very much, as you could have withdrawn from the system. Why didn’t you? You could have moved to somewhere more representative of your values. You could have not owned property to avoid most of the taxes. Etc.
Your comment re withdrawing votes is ridiculous. That would have changed zero.
You talk about lazy asses, but you were part of the system. Oh, you seem to have fought. But you did not do EVERYTHING you could have. Not by a long shot. I mean, you are still walking around free, by the sounds of it, so there were lines you were not prepared to cross. Everyone has different lines.
Brian is largely right. And he is not the enemy. We the people got exactly what we asked for. Why didn’t we stand up against asset forfeiture? Why did we not demonstrate and close down the school boards? Why did we not withdraw to either cash work, trade, barter, etc. so as to starve the beast? Why did we not do so much else? Why did we allow it?
You are to be commended for the efforts you made. But you could have done more. I could have done more. But for the most part, people have gotten what they wanted.
Those that recognize the issues are not the enemy, and your holier than thou response is unhelpful.
Did you win? Or were you eaten by the system? Were you tilting at windmills?
The ‘outcome’ isn’t what drove me.
You complain about paying for public schools. You did not have to pay, or pay very much
Like hell I didn’t.
My complaint was that I had to pay for -other- people’s kids – not mine. And their education’s God wasn’t mine! So again, it’s the principle. Are you picking up a theme yet?
You could have moved to somewhere more representative of your values. You could have not owned property to avoid most of the taxes. Etc.
Um I have a right to life and liberty. And by your logic you all should just except Biden and shut up… or else move somewhere else. I know you moved but I would question whether your circumstances are better.
Oh, you seem to have fought. But you did not do EVERYTHING you could have.
Nope, It hasn’t cost me my life (yet). But the vast majority did jack shit. In fact ol’ Reilly reveled in the idea of prospering ‘materially’. That’s a thorough lack of principle and integrity.
Those that recognize the issues are not the enemy, and your holier than thou response is unhelpful.
and your nonchalant moralizing is unwelcome. If most people got what they wanted, I pity them. I wanted/want freedom. I’m not even close. How about you?
You are measuring who has done what. And Brian is not the enemy. Maybe I have done more than you, or not. Maybe Brian has, or not. Or many others that post here. You sound very jaded.
Nothing wrong with wanting to do better materially. Part of the life and liberty deal. And it certainly is not indicative of lack of principle and integrity. That is bullshit.
It sounds likely you have been a failure economically, or you would not make such an asinine comment, and as a result of your lack of success attribute lack of integrity and principle to those that are successful.
Doing well financially and having principles are integrity are not mutually exclusive. And doing well economically often has a very serious upside to society. I did well economically, and as a result I created jobs and helped people build wealth and improve their lives. I try to be principled and ethical, but whether I succeed is really for others to say.
You could have done more. But you did not, for whatever your reasons. As I said, we all have different lines. You recognised issues and are to be commended for that. You could have moved to areas where your ideals were better accepted. You did not. Your choice. But choices have consequences. And I said you could have done x,y, or z to minimize paying taxes. You chose not to do so. Extrapolating that into that ridiculous Biden comment is ridiculous.
You have zero self-awareness. It is you who are moralising, not me. It is you who are claiming to be more virtuous than say Brian. Not me. It is you who are saying people are lazy and have not done enough, not me.
You really need to quit feeling so superior, and so sorry for yourself. It is a poor combo. Because many have done more than you, and have added more to society than you.
I never cease to be amazed that those who talk about God are often the most judgemental. Not exactly what Jesus had in mind.
TOD,
Exactly!
Please, stop with the blame and moralizing. You think voter fraud hasn’t been around for like, forever? Tammany Hall ring a bell? The democrats have always stolen elections but those were local and no biggie for the country as a whole. Small fish compared to the shit now going on.
I doubt too many people were aware of just what a pathetic joke and echo chamber the media was and is, it’s only been since the onslaught of the destroy Trump movement that the media has revealed itself in all it’s perverted and twisted glory. Prior to that we had avuncular Cronkite and Murrow and a semblance of non-bias in the news. Now we have ‘media’ that manufactures news and tries to force feed it to the masses as truth.
As to rebelling? How and against what? You have not one iota of how or who I voted for in past elections, you make assumptions and generalities and then attempt to broadbrush everyone with said assumptions and lay blame on…what, exactly? Was society sooo corrupt that we could barely exist without graft and eking by? Nope.
You ASSUME I voted for the same party rather than voting either libertarian or not voting at all. I didn’t vote for either McCain or Obama, ditto Romney or Bush, I sat those out thank you very much…I knew both Obama and McCain were evil, a war monger vs. a ‘transform America’ cipher with a great smile and not one, but two autobiographies regaling the world about his alcoholic maybe daddy and his love of ganja and other drugs.
Trump was the shock and surprise of a life time, no one took him seriously and no one expected him to win, the fix was in for Hillary and all the federal minions were in the sack for her and, in the sidelines, Obama. I daresay the votes then, like now, were so overwhelming for Trump that despite the fraud, he managed to crawl up to the top. I think the same thing was going to happen this past election but this time the dems were better prepared and had the covid mail in excuse ballots to really muddy the waters.
Everyone who hasn’t tried to have the criminals who overthrew gov indicted is to blame. At least those people have built cases, tried and proved that the gov has been overthrown by criminals. Others bear false witness because they haven’t done the due diligence to gather the evidence and built cases. Even team Trump won’t explicitly say that the gov has been overthrown by criminals and demonstrate the evidence. In fact, team Trump is taking their evidence to known law violators of the corporate courts seeking ‘justice’.
The overthrow of the gov was officially complete in the 1960s with the last state and courts becoming corporate bodies officially NOT bound by the Constitution. Most people even hear have no clue what I am talking about.
“What choice did you have?”
Master and uphold the law. That is the choice Americans have always had and declined.
Only it didn’t take WWII to turn things around, now, did it?
My dad has drunk, and continues to drink, George Dickel for 40+ years. I personally never developed a taste for it. But a nice nod here from Kuntsler to one of the most underrated Tennessee Whiskeys out there. Everybody crazy about Jack, but do they know George?
“Heee, heee, heee…..he said dickel……”
Kentucky’s own Jim Beam rules on Auntie’s little bar.
Pour over Lucky CHarms ( magically delicious) for the real breakfast of champions.
Bourbon on Lucky Charms? Gack. Ice maybe…so, what’s a good sippin’ whiskey that isn’t mass marketed?
Four Roses Small Batch or Single Barrel. I also like Blanton’s single barrel. I also have access to very, ver limited editions which shall remain nameless.
I think Four Roses is a really good bourbon at all of its levels and price points.
It’s damn good stuff
Old Overholt, pure rye whiskey, a favorite of my grandfather who passed away in 1962.
My Dad drank that and Old Crow.
Jim Beam Rye with a liquid thickener (water thickener for older folks with swallowing difficulties) blended at a consistency of store bought commercial honey, poured over pancakes with real butter. Now that’s the breakfast of fucking champions.
Weller and water….wonderful.
Bourbon without water or ice .
I just want to see the details and the evidence, and I would like to see it organized so even the morons in our society can follow the argument from point A to point Z. All the evidence in the world will not matter unless these folks can see what has been done to the election process all to elect the globalist puppet. And the ties to international groups, the CIA, etc. will hopefully bring home the point that our nation is no longer controlled by the citizens (yeah, I gave up on that fantasy many decades ago). Simply having the election overturned and Trump put in as president will do nothing to sway the crowd, nearly all of whom believe the lies that this was the most honest election in our nation’s history.
Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai and associates lay out a compelling case for systematic voting fraud in Michigan. It’s a 1+ hour youtube video, but they show the non-random patterns that appear when the machines are programmed to incrementally take votes from Trump and give them to Bribem once a certain threshold is met (in this case in precincts that contain approx. 20% R voters, as base upon straight-ticket voting).
https://hereistheevidence.com/
If people are not smart enough to understand the evidence, they shouldn’t be voting anyways. There is no saving a corrupt system.
Save the system using taxidermy, IYKWIM.
I agree with your analysis Mr. when Trump wins in the courts, it will change little. They hate America, and want it destroyed, including the courts. In fact they probably hope for Supreme Court ruling in Trumps favor, so they can throw it on the bonfire as well.
After that election performance does anyone think they give a shit about the courts.
The commies are hoping to prevail in the courts but I guarandamntee they will be in the streets with guns even if the whole thing is a 100% proven fraud and attempted theft.
Everyone must be prepared to fight and defend. Evil is on the march.
I think I’d rather have a 1989 Russian mimeograph machine than a 2021 American internet. People labor under the illusion that they have the right to speak their mind, but a mildly insensitive comment on a newspaper article can get you fired if you’d been logged in with Facebook. I know someone that happened to. She commented about a totally-justified police shooting (the guy was shooting at the cops as he ran away). She didn’t use any N words or anything like that. She worked for a Berkshire Hathaway company and was fired the very next day.
Kunstler is nonchalant about our situation because he hasn’t comprehended the coming ramifications of the woke army deplatforming, debanking and boycotting anyone who will not conform. The Left is never done. Ever. It’s a function of being a progressive that they have to keep “progressing”. They’re like sharks that have to keep moving forward. We achieved gay marriage? Let’s work on Trans rights. Trans adults have all of the rights they need? Let’s push for minors to choose sterilization by “transitioning”. It never ends and it never will end.
Look how one of Trump’s law firms quit because of threats to their ability to generate new business. Wait until ISP’s start dropping unacceptable websites, and banks stop working with ISP’s that don’t drop unacceptable websites. And other businesses ceasing to work with banks that work with ISP’s that tolerate unacceptable content…
Add in the end of cash and it’ll make you crazier.
The lawyers that ‘quit’ Trump did so because they were doxxed and had threats to their lives made against them, in addition to threats of cutting off their income flow.
I’d like to see online social media done away with but not the Internet.
I tend to look on the bright side. For example, some sheriffs have already said they will not enforce some of the draconian mandates that there be no gatherings of groups of a certain size at holiday celebrations. It is not exactly firing the first shot at Bunker Hill, since these are ludicrous laws on their face, but it’s a start. I doubt many cops will be enforcing the curfews that have been just announced by our idiot governor here, the carefully coiffed Gavin Newsome. Unless the violator is a Old White Male, any police stops will be denounced as racist, and who needs that shit? The problem with these grandiose schemes is that someone actually has to actually enforce them, against an increasingly suspicious, angry and, did I mention, well-armed populous. Remember the showdown at the Bundy ranch a few years over some stupid cattle? When the federal Marshalls were confronted by a group yahoos carrying deer rifles, they remembered that discretion is the better part of valor and backed off. Cops are civil servant waiting for their pensions, and I don’t think most want to risk anything by annoying hungry people about to sit down to Thanksgiving dinner.
Remember what happened at Malheur? Does the name LaVoy Finnicum ring a bell? Many of those who showed up at Bundy’s place are now in prison. The PoPo may back off initially but remember they are taking names and pictures and will come after those brave souls one-by-one, pick them off individually at a later date.
The Thanksgiving business is a shot across the bow, a test.
Sure, but Bundy walked away from his case a free man. Nothing is guaranteed. You take your losses along with your victories.
Malheur escaped your notice? Bundy’s supporters in prison escape your notice? You stated that it was the people with guns who got Bundy off, I stated that the gun people ended up in prison. Would you go to jail so Bundy could walk off?
Not the ones at Bundy ranch. Only the ones that took over the Malheur building.
We had better be taking names if we know what is good for us.
yup
The only ones at Bundy ranch that got killed or sent to prison are the ones that took over the wildlife refuge, a federal building. Those at the ranch itself were not gone after.
Nope, the people in Nevada at the Bundy ranch were arrested. Malheur was Oregon and they killed Finnicum there so I guess they got their blood libel.
— Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s bodyguard in confrontations with U.S land management agents became the last of 19 defendants from 11 states to be sentenced on Tuesday in an armed standoff nearly five years ago.
Brian “Booda” Cavalier, 47, of Mesa, Arizona, was told he won’t serve any more time than the 20 months he spent in federal custody between his arrest in early 2016 and his guilty plea in October 2017 to two charges of conspiracy to impede and injure a federal officer.
“I’d just like to put this behind me,” Cavalier told Chief U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro.
Cliven Bundy, wife Carol Bundy, son Ryan Bundy, and close family friend Shawna Cox were among the few observers in the courtroom while the judge credited Cavalier with taking responsibility and pleading guilty months before Navarro found “flagrant” prosecutorial misconduct and dismissed the case against other defendants a year ago.
The brief court hearing involved the tense 2014 standoff in which armed ranchers and self-declared militia members forced heavily armed federal agents to retreat and release a herd of cattle in a dusty dry river bed.
The incident stoked passions among some who contrasted the peaceful outcome in Nevada with a 1993 federal siege and fire that destroyed a religious sect compound in Waco, Texas, killing more than 70 people.
Bundy family members and supporters maintain the federal government has no authority to collect fees or stop ranchers from letting cattle graze in vast arid rangelands.
They characterized their refusal to let the government confiscate cows grazing in what is now Gold Butte National Monument as an expression of free speech and weapon rights.
Prosecutors cast the confrontation as an insurrection against the U.S. government.
Most of the 19 defendants spent nearly two years in federal custody awaiting trial on charges that could have gotten them decades in prison, including conspiracy, threatening and assaulting federal officers, firearm offenses, obstruction and extortion.
Prosecutors failed to gain full convictions in 2017 in two jury trials against six defendants who carried assault-style weapons during the confrontation outside Bunkerville, 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.
Brian “Booda” Cavalier, 47, of Mesa, Arizona, was told he won’t serve any more time than the 20 months he spent in federal custody between his arrest in early 2016 and his guilty plea in October 2017 to two charges of conspiracy to impede and injure a federal officer.
https://apnews.com/article/8aa87e76188349e9bc9ba14ee82b0aca
Lt. Col. Harry Potter was at Bundy ranch and he was never arrested.
These were the people that were at Bundy ranch and also took over Malheur, not the ones just making a stand at Bundy ranch.
The people at the Ranch in Nevada were indeed arrested and sent to prison. I just posted that information. Not everyone at the Ranch in Nevada were arrested, but nineteen were.
A lot of deer rifles out here right now.
This is something I hope someone looks at and realizes that we are being shuffled into this new idea of “Shielding” that could lead to the idea of relocation camps for those at risk (or those who will not obey.)
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/global-covid-19/shielding-approach-humanitarian.html
Is this what they’ve been doing the past months? Implementing another phase of the Plan?
The plan is Agenda 21.
Wait until they are starved down…
Apparently, sniping or just walking up and shooting cops gets rid of them easily, as has been shown lately. Why would cops want to put themselves in that position?
Another NAFT Press Conference .
I’d prefer the Machiavellian Trump….I don’t think he has the balls to pull it off.
This is about the very surivability of America, hardly a “food fight”.
We on TBP are good at identifying (aka complaining) how the NWO Resetters do their havoc but we are not so good at organizing the needed fight back. I will be posting a little on this.
In meantime, do this if only to feel good about doing SOMETHING other than complaining… and forward to everyone you know.
https://tennesseestar.com/2020/11/20/carol-swain-urges-citizens-to-write-to-the-president-and-sign-petition-to-help-president-trump-reclaim-our-nation/
I am guilty of complaining more than doing the hard work as well, tho if anyone has noted in most of my posts I have encouraged getting our legislators to consider breaking up the MSM. That would be necessary IMO nearly more than all else.
Anyway, final comments good about us vs Soviet Union via Internet news sources. But only maybe as long as the Resetters will allow us to do so…..have to prevent that darn Misinfo ya know.
The press conference did seem unorganized and a bit frantic. I have no doubt that everything that we have witnessed is probably far worse than even these lawyers are letting on. I imagine that if this fails these lawyers may have good reason to fear for their safety as well as the safety of their families. That would make anyone nervous.
I believe that in the end and before it’s too late, if DJT doesn’t invoke the insurrection act and the NDAA that zero put into place (which is likely not constitutional) this challenge thing will be over and then the real meaning of “elections have consequences” will come into play on all of us like a ton of rocks. There is still the EO in place on election fraud as well.
Hope and pray but keep preparing.
None on that press conference stage are polished showboating lawyers. Guiliani is too much the New Yorker and he’s getting old. Sidney Powell was angry, very angry and that came through in spades. What they have has evidence is already on the internet, lots of charts, graphs and anomalies along with gobs of videos showing just how easy it is to hack and reprogram those voting machines.
DJT cannot invoke anything at present without the charges of him being a dictator are invoked. The media and democrats have successfully neutered him and unless his lawyers get their court cases going like yesterday the fat lady is starting to fill her lungs.
Here’s a video made by NBC showing how voting machines are easily hacked…this is the same NBC that now claims that there was no fraud in the election.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.283580/gov.uscourts.gand.283580.7.1_2.pdf
“the $64-trillion question”
that’s not enough to pay off our debt.
Guliani must have never heard about not letting them see you sweat. I thought the man was having a stroke or something. it should be an interesting next month or so. I can only imagine the crying and screaming if Trump were to win. I’m ok with it since it’s getting to be just another day with wackos.
It was hot and cramped but his son Andrew has Covid so maybe Rudy was coming down with it during the presser. I thought he looked odd, even at the beginning. I see him on War Room and a couple of other places every day and compared to his usual appearance he looked “green around the gills” as the old saying goes.
All the minutia aside: It boils down to the people in America. Are the millions what want justice going to do something other than gripe on social media or attend a ‘peaceful’ rally?
Resistance has many forms that are more than the aforementioned yet not violent.
People (including many who already think they are ‘redpilled’ ) are going to have some waking up to do and hard choices to make soon, regardless of who is in the White House.
The people are going to have to eschew the hedonism, consumerism and seriously take responsibility for their spiritual and physical well being. This is largely why the Commies have made the inroads they have over the last 100 years in America.
Most of America is not even where many of the people on this site were 20-30 years ago.
That is not going to cut it! People ( a lot of boomers) better realize that just because it does not fit your belief system that was handed down to you when you were young; does not mean it can’t , won’t or isn’t possible to happen in your lifetime.
And this sums up my problem with the Boomers as a generational cohort. It’s a damn near pathological denial of the truth and the facts until the day has grown long, compounded with the “vote harder” mentality. Our votes haven’t mattered since at least Tides was involved with our voting and voting machinery. Even Glenn Beck, nutbar that he is, talked about it 12 years ago.
Each cohort shares some blame and has a role to play. But really, the denial until NOV 2020 was puerile. It was no different than a child writing out his letter to Santa, expecting every box to be checked.
Joe Biden has been totally co-opted by the forces of wokesterism chaos. Should they come to power do you really think that those of us who believe in law and order and free speech etc are just going to sit back and wait for them to take us away. I can assure you that this is not the case. We are on the brink of civil war if they are going to threaten our well being.
Fax machines were a game changer in the 80s
https://dailyarchives.org/index.php/news/3397-jewish-organization-admits-to-role-censoring-donald-trump-and-conservatives-on-facebook-and-twitter-promises-more