For What Should We Fight Russia or China?

Guest Post by Pat Buchanan

For What Should We Fight Russia or China?

If red lines are to be laid down, they ought to be laid down by the one constitutional body with the authority to authorize or declare war — Congress. And questions need to be answered to avoid the kinds of miscalculations that led to horrific world wars in the 20th century.

Last Monday, in a single six-hour period, NATO launched 10 air intercepts to shadow six separate groups of Russian bombers and fighters over the Arctic, North Atlantic, North Sea, Black Sea and Baltic Sea.

Last week also brought reports that Moscow is increasing its troop presence in Crimea and along its borders with Ukraine.

Joe Biden responded. In his first conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Biden assured him of our “unwavering support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity in the face of Russia’s ongoing aggression in the Donbass and Crimea.”

Though Ukraine is not a member of NATO, and we have no treaty obligation to fight in its defense, this comes close to a war guarantee. Biden seems to be saying that if it comes to a shooting war between Moscow and Kiev, we will be there on the side of Kiev.

Last week, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov answered that if the U.S. sends troops to Ukraine, Russia will respond.

Again, is Biden saying that in the event of a military clash between Ukrainians and Russians in Crimea, Donetsk or Luhansk, the U.S. will intervene militarily on the side of Ukraine?

Such a pledge could put us at war with a nuclear-armed Russia in a region where we have never had vital interests, and without the approval of the only institution authorized to declare war — Congress.

Meanwhile, off Whitsun Reef in the South China Sea, which Beijing occupies but Manila claims, China has amassed 220 maritime militia ships.

This huge Chinese flotilla arrived after Secretary of State Anthony Blinken put Beijing on notice that any attack on Philippine planes or ships challenging Beijing’s claim to rocks and reefs of the South China Sea that are in Manila’s exclusive economic zone will be backed by the U.S.

Our 70-year-old mutual security treaty with Manila covers these islets and reefs, said Blinken, though some are already occupied and fortified by China.

Apparently, if Manila uses force to assert its claims and expel the Chinese, then we will fight beside our Philippine allies. This amounts to a war guarantee of the kind that forced the British to declare war on Germany in 1939 over the invasion of Poland.

Two weeks ago, 20 Chinese military aircraft entered Taiwan’s air defense identification zone in the largest incursion yet by Beijing over the waters between Taiwan and Taiwan-controlled Pratas Islands. As national security correspondent Bill Gertz writes in today’s Washington Times:

“China is stepping up provocative activities targeting regional American allies in Asia … with an escalating number of military flights around Taiwan and the massing of more than 200 fishing ships near a disputed Philippines reef.

“China also raised tensions with Japan, announcing last week that Tokyo must drop all claims to the disputed Senkaku Islands, an uninhabited island chain that Japan has administered for decades but that Beijing recently claimed as its territory.

“The most serious provocation took place March 29. An exercise by the People’s Liberation Army air force that included 10 warplanes flew into Taiwan’s air defense zone is what analysts say appeared to be a simulated attack on the island. It came just three days after an earlier mass warplane incursion.”

While China appears clear about its aims and claims to virtually all of the islands in the South China Sea and East China Sea as well as Taiwan — it is less clear about its intentions as to when to validate those claims.

As for the U.S., does the present foggy ambiguity as to what we may or may not do as China goes about asserting its claims serve our vital interests in avoiding war with the greatest power on the largest continent on earth?

If red lines are to be laid down, they ought to be laid down by the one constitutional body with the authority to authorize or declare war — Congress. And questions need to be answered to avoid the kinds of miscalculations that led to horrific world wars in the 20th century.

Are the reefs and rocks the Philippines claim in the South China Sea, claims contradicted by China, covered by the U.S. mutual security treaty of 1951? Are we honor-bound to fight China on behalf of the Philippines, if Manila attempts to reclaim islets China occupies?

What is our obligation if China moves to take the Senkakus? Would the United States join Japan in military action to hold or retrieve them?

What, exactly, is our commitment to Taiwan if China attempts to blockade, invade or seize Taiwan’s offshore islands?

John F. Kennedy in the second debate with Richard Nixon in 1960 wrote off Quemoy and Matsu in the Taiwan Strait as indefensible and not worth war with Mao’s China.

With its warnings and threats, China is forcing America to address questions we have been avoiding for about as long as we can.

China is saying that it is not bluffing: These islands are ours!

Time to show our cards.

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17 Comments
hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
April 6, 2021 7:59 am

There is no more going to be a war with China or Russia than there is going to be a fourth wave of Covid.

You are living in a never ending human experiment on government/elite designed anxiety as a means of control.

Watch the script folks, they aren’t particularly clever or creative. There’s nothing inventive about dragging out the same old storylines every six months to a year from Iran is six months away from a nuke to NK are about to launch missiles that will hit the west coast.

These are all fictions designed to keep you in a perpetual state of submission through fear.

Pat should know better.

Ghost
Ghost
  hardscrabble farmer
April 6, 2021 8:06 am

The military will be too busy babysitting all the illegal immigrant minors being dumped in “empty bed space” on military bases across the country.

I heard they found a thousand empty beds at Fort Bliss and about 250 at Lackland!

Jdog
Jdog
  hardscrabble farmer
April 6, 2021 11:02 am

I disagree. I believe proxy wars with Russia and China are very much on the table. The reason I say that is it fits in with the overall NWO agenda. The agenda is to weaken the US on all fronts, break it up, and eventually force it into the North American Union where it will sacrifice its national sovereignty and fall under the control of the NWO as Europe already has.
The lone pillar supporting the US dollar as the main reserve currency is worldwide belief in the superiority of the US military, and the US ability to support our agenda by force.
Were the US military to lose that confidence, the dollar would suffer a crisis worldwide crushing its standing as a world reserve currency.
The US now finds itself between a rock and a hardplace, as it has already made commitments to protect Taiwan and Ukraine, and to back down will cause a great loss of global confidence.
If it does decides to act militarily, it will probably be humiliated on the battlefield as Russia and China have the strategical advantage in both theaters.
The development of hyper-sonic missiles has been a military game changer. It has given both China and Russia the ability to hit US bases and ships at will, from a thousand miles away, and the US cannot defend against them.
We also face the hurdle that in both cases, we are facing countries who believe they are defending home land giving their cause moral justification that we lack, interfering with foreign affairs.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jdog
April 6, 2021 11:17 am

Loss of confidence? No one trusts the US to back them anymore. Except maybe israel, they know who their shabbos goyim are.

Underwood
Underwood
  Anonymous
April 6, 2021 6:53 pm

The Philippines have become much more friendly lately…

Would we really abandon Japan?

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Jdog
April 6, 2021 11:36 am

That makes sense to me.

Ginger
Ginger
  hardscrabble farmer
April 6, 2021 3:04 pm

The tv station that comes in the best on my size of a shoebox antenna has the Severe Storm Center, out of which flows even when it is going to be a nice Spring day. Now everyday it is the pollen meter.

Underwood
Underwood
  hardscrabble farmer
April 6, 2021 6:51 pm

Indeed. Putin is using fear tactics to try to maintain his hold on power.

The Chinese Communists however, are promising the Chinese people world domination, and convincing them that no one can/will oppose them.

I think they are wrong. Perhaps the proof of their theory will be when they try to conquer Taiwan and the Philippines.

Llpoh
Llpoh
April 6, 2021 9:33 am

Crimea has no business being part of the Ukraine. Crimean are Russian, they speak Russian (only 3% of Crimeans speak Ukrainian), they consider themselves to be Russian, they support Russia, and they do not want to be part of the Ukraine. The only reason Ukraine wants Crimea is the port access. And for no other reason.

August
August
  Llpoh
April 6, 2021 10:24 am

Circa 2013, the US government posted online an official request-for-bids to renovate an old Sebastopol school/college building into the local headquarters of the US Navy.

The Russians really had no choice re Crimea….

Yahsure
Yahsure
April 6, 2021 10:09 am

We should have open trade with the Russians. The Chinese need to be throttled a bit. It’s been a while since I looked at a map but the Spratley islands are near the Philippines? not close to China. I would have destroyed any buildup by China a long time ago. Maybe China doesn’t get the massive amount of grain and soybeans they need from us. Or at least the fear of this. China has serious food shortages and we send them food we can use here at home. I can only guess Biden’s military buddies need a new war to help justify all the debt we are accumulating by propping them up.
War. What’s it good for?

Underwood
Underwood
  Yahsure
April 6, 2021 7:05 pm

“We should have open trade with the Russians. The Chinese need to be throttled a bit.”

So Yahsure, you advocate managed trade, where government listens to lobbyists and does their bidding to make sure selected people get rich…

It’s a very old idea, and very bad.

Pf course if Congress declares war on somebody, then they can penalize people for trading with the enemy.

brian
brian
April 6, 2021 10:09 am

Both china and russia know the weakened state of the military right now. AND… under the current ‘leadership’ it will only get weaker. They also know that the US cannot war with two other super powers at the same time. So the current regime will have to decide where they won’t look to embarrassed when they get their hiney’s kicked.

China is NOT afraid of conflict and they have been preparing for a conflict for 10 plus years. They are practicing a grey war, salami slicing away plots of territories from countries they know either can’t defend or will eventually succome to their occupation. IMO, china will move for Tiawan and the US will not do anything about it other than sanctions and strong finger wagging. The grey war they are waging ahainst Tiawan is wearing down Tiawan’s military and eating up resources, as designed. Softening up the target.

imo, the dimsums in bidens camp will bluster heavily against russia russia russia. Russia likes the money so they’ll push ahead with the gas line, communist merkel isn’t about to help in any skirmish against russia. It will mostly ne theatre in the region. The US has more to lose than the russians do and nobody is goint to put mush effort into the region.

Its ALL about choas and fear… Those people on platforms as TBP are fully cognisant of whats happening and are not driven by fear. We see what the theatre is about, expose and communicate whats happening to those around us. Its a war… its upon us…

Lee
Lee
April 6, 2021 10:46 am

If your talking about THIS congress, you’re out of your damn mind.

TheAssegai
TheAssegai
April 6, 2021 12:08 pm

The late Butler Shaffer in one of his books said this:

“The state directs its wars not so much against foreign populations, as against it own. War rallies people into the mindset of unquestioning obedience because, by engaging in such deadly conduct, the state reminds us of its capacities to destroy us at its will.”

To bring it down to a local level, consider all of the equipment and arsenal that local cops have inherited from the military’s foreign adventures. The occupying force is not just in Afghanistan or Iraq, it is here.

Underwood
Underwood
  TheAssegai
April 6, 2021 7:06 pm

What’s you opinion of the War of 1812?

B.S. in V.C.
B.S. in V.C.
April 6, 2021 8:28 pm

Where are we going to get our cheap chinese plastic crap if we go to war with them.?