Three months after Rob Verkerk, Ph.D., founder of Alliance for Natural Health International, interviewed Geert Vanden Bossche, Ph.D., about the potential of a global mass COVID vaccination program to create more lethal variants of the virus, the two revisit the topic in a new “Speaking Naturally” interview.
We interviewed vaccine scientist Geert Vanden Bossche, Ph.D., DVM in March — following some serious questions we had about his concerns.
Central to these was the notion that mass vaccination with the current crop of highly-specific, spike protein-targeted, experimental vaccines, might place an extreme form of selection pressure on the evolving virus. This could in turn accelerate the generation of ‘variants of concern’ or even produce a ‘super-variant’ that is both more dangerous and vaccine resistant. Dr. Vanden Bossche’s cry was that all of this could lead to a scenario that might make what we’ve seen to-date look like a walk in the park.
At the end of March, we expressed the view that we should be cautious — on the basis of available science — in dismissing Vanden Bossche’s potentially alarmist concerns.
Three months have now elapsed — and a tidal wave of infections and associated deaths has yet to manifest. Does this mean Vanden Bossche got it wrong? Or is there another explanation?
Our second interview with Geert Vanden Bossche
We decided it was time to ‘speak naturally’ to Geert Vanden Bossche again. Our video recording of the interview with our founder Rob Verkerk, Ph.D. follows.
The bottom line
Some of the key points to emerge from the interview were as follows:
- Vanden Bossche argues that we are seeing ever more variants associated with the global mass vaccination program.
- These are applying ever more selection pressure on a very specific area (the receptor binding domain) of the spike protein.
- This evolution of immune escape variants causes incomplete sterilization of the virus in infected people, offering ever greater opportunities for evolution under this highly specific immune pressure.
- The consequence, as articulated by molecular epidemiologists, could be ever more variants (a ‘pandemic of variants’ — with a risk that more lethal, more transmissible and vaccine resistant variants will emerge).
There’s already ample evidence from the latest Public Health England data that ever younger populations are being affected and that transmissibility is increasing despite the northern summer conditions.
Fortunately mortality so far associated with the delta variant (B.1.617.2 ) appears considerably less than the alpha variant (B.1.1.7 [‘UK’]). There’s also an increased risk that mutants might emerge that enlarge the non-human host range.
- Vanden Bossche argues we’re now in the ‘calm before the storm’ — all the signals that suggest the next wave in the autumn will present a greater risk are already in preprint scientific publications.
- He believes mass vaccination should be stopped with immediate effect and he supports early treatment of symptomatic COVID-19 patients with ivermectin and nutrients, as the Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, the BIRD Group, ourselves and numerous others have proposed for months.
- He also advocates the avoidance of mass gatherings and need for entirely different vaccine technologies that reduce selection pressure and the risk of immune escape variants.
- You can find out more about the views of Vanden Bossche via his website.
Originally published by Alliance for Natural Health International.
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One thing for sure those who have 4% of Neanderthal DNA have less chances of dying for the disease.
https://massivesci.com/notes/covid-protein-variant-neanderthals-genomics/
4% Neanderthal DNA is misleading. The techniques used for sequencing Neanderthall DNA are cutting edge, but they must be taken with a grain of salt. (i.e.) A mouse “shares 95% of human DNA” because the sequence of the genes are more important than the presence of them.
The evidence they uncovered strongly suggests a relationship, but does not “prove” one. I don’t think it is sufficient to make claims about having “4% Neanderthal DNA” and at the same time be meaningful.
It is rapidly becoming an accepted surmise that DNA contains potentially layers of information we haven’t decoded yet. I get that from some top researches in the field I have personally spoken with. Devising testable hypothesis is the hard part, but it is coming slowly. It’s hard to make the experiments when you aren’t sure specifically what you are looking for, but preliminary research has shown there is a “memory” component, so now we know genetic memory is a thing (at least to some degree). That was considered pseudoscience 20 years ago.
It’s the 5% difference that makes us human.
Sharing mouse DNA doesn’t bother me that much. But, I am truly perplexed that I (You TOO!!) share 60% of our DNA with this ….
Interesting, also Type O blood and Negative blood, and those of us with type O Negative blood are doubly protected.
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-4511
Woo hoo!
A fine example of exclaimed excitement correctly spelled.
Then there’s the ACE 2 receptors, Covid 19 binding to the ACE 2 receptors is what causes the disease to manifest. Apparently different population groups have different types of receptors and the types of receptors a person has, can result in their having better or worse reaction to the virus.
“ACE2 variants in different populations could cause significant variations in the binding affinity between SARS-CoV-2 and ACE2. Yet, experimental binding assays are still needed to confirm our claim. ”
This is called electrostatic interaction. The lower the Electrostatic Interaction, EI the lower the susceptibility from Covid.
As you can see from the graph, the group’s with the lowest EI are Ashkenazi Jews and South Asians, the highest groups are European and European South Asians.
Full story here
https://reader.elsevier.com/reader/sd/pii/S2405580820301072
There are far too many people inhabiting the earth. Is it far fetched to believe that the earth will eventually find a way to fix that issue? If not coronavirus, then it will, eventually, be something else.
As a generalist, mutations of viruses become increasingly less deadly. It is easy to see why – if spreaders of the disease die, especially quickly, they cannot spread the disease. Living things, including viruses, evolve to multiply. That is best done by not killing the host.
Socialists have always attempted to disprove Darwin by protecting the weak, who vote for them.
He is arguing uphill, so to speak. I don’t think it mutates the way he see, but he could be correctly assessing potential, even if it doesn’t happen that way.
The vaccines are going to continue to kill people directly and indirectly from re-infection of the same virus or its minor mutations.
I believe that future epidemics will cause the spike protein to cause serious autoimmune disease. There will be more flu and more viruses no matter what the “experts” say.
Just what do Americans consider a problem, are 6,985 deaths as of June 25th from the vaccines not an alarm bell? Is 411,931 adverse effects not an alarm bell? Is everybody stupid, asleep, drugged out of their minds? The problems in the US as of now should force the immediate stopping of the not-vaccines. Hell years ago when 30 people died from a vaccine intro it was stopped immediately. I wonder how many people we are prepared to kill if it only saves one life?
Let’s ask Mark Dice
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.19.435959v1.article-info
We need a variant that only kills people who donate to NPR.
For frequent readers of this blog and the original postings and aggregation from outside sources, you will be familiar with the background information that the Bio Warfare researchers planet wide have been working on this Gain of Function Research for DECADES, starting with AIDS, SARS1, SARS2, all the FLU variants, etc. And then “SELLING” the “REMEDY”. It’s all about SELLING FEAR.
You will have noted that one of the primary approaches to testing a wild virus for human infectiousness is to engage in “serial passage” thru an “animal model” (bats, pangolins, ferrets, pigs, etc) that has some specific physiological parallels with the HUMAN MODEL. Once that is done, then the infectious agent is tested on specific human cell lines to see if it has become more infectious or more deadly. Wash, rinse, repeat.
SO, what if the DR EVIL/MR GATES types at the top of the pile ( and WHO can deny {but they won’t}) decided to skip the laborious, safety-oriented animal model BS and clinical trials and go direct into human in-volunteers to do this serial passage and completely maximize the fine-tuning of a particular BIOWARFARE agent for maximum effect IN HUMANS.
IT IS INDEED INHUMAN AND YOU ARE HERE.
My background includes a BS degree in Molecular Biology from UC (1980), some graduate courses from another campus of UC, a 2o year career as a Pharmaceutical Research Scientist in multiple disciplines, a research manager and finally a VP/GM of a research laboratory providing specialty products to the chemical research community. I resigned in about 2000 and pursued other business interests, once I realized that I was an ignorant FOOT SOLDIER for the PHARMAFIA. This is the reason for my “handle” as KNOWN ASSOCIATE.
I am not an MD and cannot provide medical advice, although I recommend that you all find a family doctor that is wise to the Lords of Death.