What They Are HIDING from Us?

Submitted by Hardscrabble Farmer

Is The History Real??? What They Are HIDING from Us? Part – 1

Is The History Real??? What They Are HIDING from Us? Part – 2

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GNL
GNL
January 15, 2022 12:12 pm

3 hours? Perfect for my drive to NJ later today…if it weren’t for the fact my daughter is riding along with me.

Btw, what subjects are covered in these videos?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  GNL
January 15, 2022 12:41 pm

Pretty much all of human history as we know it.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 1:20 pm

Everything we were taught was a lie. Parents, often unwittingly repeated misinformation. I would call it Mal-Information in that it was done with malicious reasons by unseen forces.

I keep stressing that we are fighting a spiritual problem not a secular problem and must be dealt with accordingly.

Mary C. just sent me this from BC Renegades. 17 minutes of problem-solution.

The failure of Christians

flash
flash
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 6:25 pm

They don’t teach this at Seminary School.

Supernatural: What the Bible Teaches About the Unseen World – and Why It Matters

Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZKy1Xt2Ow0

Guest
Guest
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 8:28 pm

My grandmother quietly stated she didn’t believe we went to the moon. Both she and my mom refuted evolution. I chuckled at their old fashioned ness. Then I knew they were right.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 7:16 pm

Part one mentioned Tartaria, ignored and or scrubbed from history. 11 minutes of its history.

Archeaopteryx Phoenix
Archeaopteryx Phoenix
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 8:10 pm

Holy shit. That video, as short as it is, puts WWII and the current Era in such a deep historical context that it is eye-opening. Thanks.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Archeaopteryx Phoenix
January 15, 2022 8:22 pm

This sequel of 11 minutes is better. He’s an anthropologist not an archaeologist or Theologin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRwxONUazp8&t=1s&ab_channel=RobertSepehr

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 7:52 pm

In three hours? LOL.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 11:21 pm

Well, I did listen to the first one on the way up here. The problem is, I’m a terrible side seat driver so I’ll have to rewatch it later.

i forget
i forget
January 15, 2022 12:18 pm

Theyus? What’s eponymous youse hiding from?

motley
motley
January 15, 2022 12:23 pm

Welp …. there goes my Sunday evening

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  motley
January 15, 2022 2:12 pm

Just finished the first 30 min. Will take me all week at this rate, but looks like it will be worth it. Makes the time on the elliptical and the bicep curls more bearable.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 15, 2022 12:39 pm

I history real? https://www.unz.com/article/how-fake-is-roman-antiquity/ Our own experience shows us how history is re-written in real time. The American “Civil War”, WW1&2 and all the other fake histories while people were still alive to remember what really happened (if they cared).

GNL
GNL
  Anonymous
January 15, 2022 1:13 pm

So MAYBE the haulicost really is a haox.

GNL
GNL
  GNL
January 15, 2022 1:13 pm

That’s my own word.

Warren
Warren
  GNL
January 15, 2022 6:09 pm

Would our government lie about it? Absolutely. Would the media or academia lie about it? No question.
But for the life of me, I don’t doubt it happened, at least Dachau, because my dad’s friend Joe told me it once, he was part of the liberation of the camps, as a tanker in Patton’s Army, why would he lie about it? Why would he make something like that up?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Warren
January 15, 2022 6:57 pm

What part did he relate and when? If he was specific you should share the details.

I don’t think anyone disputes the existence of the camps or of the conditions suffered in them. America had them for goodness sake so it’s hardly an anomaly during times of war.

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Holocaust has a specific meaning. The allegations are specific as to intent. There are very few- to my knowledge-historic events that cannot be called into question on penalty of imprisonment, but in much of Europe, this particular chapter is and that ought to raise questions for any reasonable person.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 8:31 pm

The Yankees deliberately starved the Confederate POWs the same as Eisenhauer starved the German POWs. Stalin starved millions to death, ditto Lenin and Mao. There was the siege of Leningrad and Africans starve because of civil war. There’s a common thread here, I just can’t quite put my finger on it….

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Mygirl....maybe
January 15, 2022 11:27 pm

MyGirl, I am quite confused. This does not sound like a comment you would make.

Brewer55
Brewer55
  Glock-N-Load
January 16, 2022 10:59 am

I found out recently that there are apparently 2 ‘Mygirl…maybe’ aliases. I have not idea who is who. One hates me, the other doesn’t…I think! lol

Fredo
Fredo
  Mygirl....maybe
January 15, 2022 11:39 pm

All those others deserve it more attention but we aren’t reminded of them 24/7 and it’s not a crime to question them.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 11:24 pm

That is the biggest reason I question it.

very old white guy
very old white guy
  hardscrabble farmer
January 16, 2022 7:28 am

Bulldozing bodies into trenches is a real eye opener.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Warren
January 15, 2022 11:25 pm

Warren,

Could it be that he was gaslit? Possible?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 1:07 pm

Let’s just throw one single historic revision out there as an example and see if you can understand why people are beginning to question everything.

When I was growing up time- historically speaking- was divided into two distinct eras; B.C. and A.D. The B.C. designation meant- and there is no disputing this- Before Christ. Any event in human history from the first chipped stone implement in the Olduvai Gorge right up until the reign of Caesar Augustus happened in an era defined only as the time before the birth of Christ. From that moment forward we entered the next phase of human history defined by the abbreviated Latin term for the year of our Lord, Anno Domini, A.D.

For those of you in academia, media, or born after the mid 1980’s those terms no longer exist, being replaced with the newly defined yet oddly similar B.C.E. and C.E., or Before the Common Era and the Common Era.

There was no demand from the populations of the Earth to change the terms and by the mid 1980’s the acceptance of this accounting for the years of Man were perfectly acceptable by all but one small group of people who felt the Christian reference marginalized those who were non-believers. Perhaps that was true, but there exists no such record of those protests and if they were in fact extant, no one seemed to notice it, either in the media or in academia.

From Wikipedia-

The use of CE in Jewish scholarship was historically motivated by the desire to avoid the implicit “Our Lord” in the abbreviation AD.

Adena K. Berkowitz, in her application to argue before the United States Supreme Court, opted to use BCE and CE because “Given the multicultural society that we live in, the traditional Jewish designations – B.C.E. and C.E. – cast a wider net of inclusion”

You see what they did there? With zero calls from anyone anywhere, suddenly between 2004 and 2007 in virtual lockstep every style guide for writers, every academic source, every department in every institution throughout the Western world simultaneously discarded the terms B.C. and A.D., and adopted traditional Jewish designations in order to promote inclusion.

So the years stayed the same, nothing changed except the reason for the order of the years. The Common Era, we are expected to believe, began on the same year that Jesus Christ was born, was merely a coincidence. There was no connection to the birth of Christ- to promote inclusion, of course- even though it is undeniable that the years hinge precisely on the same historical pivot.

That, in a nutshell, is how people, in their own lifetimes, can erase the history that they knew and understood their entire lifetime, for over 100 generations, with something that is a complete fabrication and never even notice. You will not find a single young adult or child who has even heard of the term B.C. or A.D. at any point in their lives and they now possess a complete and total ignorance- despite knowing what year it is- of why it is referred to as the Common Era.

A small group of individuals agitating to erase history succeeded without anyone even taking notice and now- and certainly in the future- we are divorced from any understanding of why.

This is but a single example that came to me off the top of my head, I could name dozens more, all from within my own lifetime.

Imagine what a concerted effort of powerful and motivated people with an agenda could do over the course of centuries to make history appear any way they like. And by controlling the institutions and organizations from the very top, how would one ever be able to ascertain what was and wasn’t authentic history versus something contrived to satisfy some ends we might never be able to guess at?

This is a singularly important topic for anyone with even a shred of curiosity about mankind and our history. Believe it or not.

GNL
GNL
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 1:20 pm

Be careful, I might have mistaken you for AP. 🙂

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  GNL
January 15, 2022 1:26 pm

How would that be a bad thing?

GNL
GNL
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 2:49 pm

I should have put /sarc. I’ve been defending AP (on the sly) for over 10 years now.

Foot in the Forest
Foot in the Forest
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 1:21 pm

According to main stream archeology human civilization started in Mesopotamia about 5000 years BC. Yet they cannot explain Gobekli Tepi which carbon dates to 12000BC.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Foot in the Forest
January 15, 2022 1:34 pm

I would be highly doubtful of the accuracy of carbon dating for anything having to do with the historical record. Is it useful? Sure, to a degree with some carbon based artifacts under certain conditions, but as some kind of proof? Highly speculative.

And there’s a lot more than Gobekli Tepi out there that predates the 5,000 year mark, there simply isn’t any means of proving it.

Mainstream academia insists that agriculture predates husbandry, but they’ve got it backwards. Meat, fat and skin were far more valuable to the human species than plants and once domestication began the accumulation of manures made agriculture possible, especially higher yields of the kinds of fruits and grains we consider the bedrock of early agriculture, not before then. But then academics tend to be vegetarians who have never lived in the natural world and are thus blind to cause and effect.

Warren
Warren
  Foot in the Forest
January 15, 2022 6:54 pm

Or that, when covered with smooth limestone, as they originally were. The great pyramids are Tesla coils.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Foot in the Forest
January 17, 2022 8:46 am

Carbon dating is not reliable.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 1:30 pm

Huh? I must have been living under a rock for 30 years, but I have not heard of anything other than BC/AD.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Svarga Loka
January 15, 2022 1:37 pm

You predate the change and are likely not living in an academic setting.

First hit on google for history course-

https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/world-history

Open the link and be amazed.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 2:22 pm

One more reason we use almost all books (and old ones at that) for our homeschool learning. Barely any internet.

GNL
GNL
  Svarga Loka
January 15, 2022 2:52 pm

Where can a person purchase 50, 60 or 70 year old text/school books?

kfg
kfg
  GNL
January 15, 2022 3:31 pm

Amazon.

kfg
kfg
  kfg
January 15, 2022 4:53 pm

I’ll add that except for STEM subjects you don’t really want to use school textbooks in the first place. Move your kids on to real books as quickly as possible.

Even in STEM, books intended as supplemental or for popular use can be superior to the standard textbooks.

Write your own curriculum, choose your own books that cover those subjects. Textbooks are mainly useful as your reference in doing that.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  kfg
January 15, 2022 5:39 pm

We just live life with the kids right alongside of us. Same books, music, movies, conversation, chores, projects, etc.

Give them problems to solve and let the work out the solutions on their own.

The only schooling part is in depth conversations about things we’ve done/are doing/read/etc. and a serious concentration on vocabulary.

Before you know it they’re adults who are wonderful company.

I think the single most important lesson anyone can ever learn is to stay curious. You can’t possibly learn everything there is to know about any topic or discipline even if it’s the only thing you ever study. Being an autodidact is better than being a student.

kfg
kfg
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 6:22 pm

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

i forget
i forget
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 6:54 pm

Autopteradidactyl…Braveheart pen mightier than Claymore:

On the other winged finger hand I’d like to have a copy of the OED.

brian
brian
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 7:06 pm

We did much the same thing… Really didn’t have any curricular so to speak. My wife would take the kids to the library about every week and they’d bring a tote back brimming with books with everything imaginable.

We used their curiosity to discover the whats and why fors they run into daily. And, being on a farm they learned where their food came from, life and death, waste and efficiencies, all of it.

Home schooling isn’t and doesn’t have to be difficult and the school system throws in fear to try and keep your kids. They’ll tell you that you are not qualified to teach your children. poppycock…

Your kids, homeschooled, will be far better educated and far better equipped as young adults than any of the government schooled kids. When you have children you are not only investing in your future but the countries future as well…

Invest well and homeschool…

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  brian
January 15, 2022 8:00 pm

You guys seem to be describing “unschooling” more than homeschooling although I think that free range type approach is actually superior as it focuses on what someone actually wants to learn versus what they are forced to learn. Learning will obviously be superior under those conditions.

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  MrLiberty
January 15, 2022 10:21 pm

knew a guy who did that. His kid was quite damaged from the system. My only concern is that academic discipline is a learned attribute. Somehow it needs to be installed.

Gmpatriot
Gmpatriot
  GNL
January 15, 2022 4:11 pm

Try ABE Books….https://www.abebooks.com/

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  GNL
January 15, 2022 8:50 pm

ebay and thriftbooks.

The Ages of Men

Ghost
Ghost
  Mygirl....maybe
January 17, 2022 9:54 am

I’m going to chat with you a bit here because I watched a video on string theory last night and, like Brian Regan, my head exploded.

I won’t put the link here but I’ll put a screenshot or two and you can seek it if you want to blow your brains out with gobbledeegook… well, go ahead on.

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However, there are some quite worthwhile concepts Mr. Dijkgraaf (see below)*introduces, so until he actually GETS to “strings” and is just discussing the world of physics, my head didn’t explode and I felt as if I were learning something I needed to “remember.”

* (someone needs to redistribute the vowels in his name and reorder the consonants… I suggest Dagfikarj or Dajfakirg if he wants to stay in the D row.)

This one here is cool, right? Well, just wait until you see the next one. (that is called a teaser)

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and without further ado? The string theory also leads to a multiverse!

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I amuse myself, like Arthur, sometimes just thinking amusing things.

My son, now 28, said something to me the other week or so when we were discussing genetic traits he gets from me. He mentioned genetic memory and I knew exactly what he meant. Some might brush aside such a concept that one might actually have memories associated with one’s genetic code, but I do not.

My Aunt Martha (to the power of 1) told me, Martha (squared) when I was fourteen years old in 1977 that she could look at a snapshot and bring everything associated with the image into memory. I also had a somewhat photographic memory early in life, trained by my father and my aunt? Or inherited from them?

My son does it too. I no longer can do it. When he was a young boy, I had the first of many surgeries which led, eventually, to the implant in my skull which drains the cerebral spinal fluid from my ventricles, something called aqueduct stenosis having stopped the normal ebb and flow of CSP to my spine. I don’t consider myself brain-damaged, although when the pressure systems in the sky are changing, the ebb and flow of the fluid through the damned tube leading to my heart sometimes irritates me and gives me headaches. But, I no longer have any trace of that ability to bring a picture into my mind and examine it for details.

Here’s the title page of the String Theory thingie. It really does have some really interesting concepts in it, not unlike the idea some unknown overlords we call “They” or “TLPTB” have been able to fold space time in a way that conceals hundreds of years or adds hundreds depending upon the multiverse they steer us into.

I got that from String Theory before my head exploded.

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I will try to get back and edit this but it is morning in paradise and I have Mandlebrot rabbits to feed.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  GNL
January 15, 2022 9:29 pm

Tag sales, little libraries, town dump. But for the most part, we just read what we enjoy or find interesting, and then discuss it around the dinner table. For example, our daughter loves jewelry, and the books for kids are really boring, so I got her a real adult book written for master jewelers. She has a deeper understanding of it than most adults.

On car rides, our son is reading Harry Potter to all of us. I love listening to it.

I think I am a bit selfish, because I get to learn so much with this homeschooling lifestyle. It is a treat and rarely feels like a chore.

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  GNL
January 15, 2022 11:12 pm

go to antique malls – bookstores (not contemporary)

Anonymous
Anonymous
  GNL
January 16, 2022 6:16 am

Ebay and Etsy as well.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Svarga Loka
January 17, 2022 8:51 am

IMO sitting a child in front of a computer is not homeschooling them. It can become simply another surrogate parent. And it’s not healthy in other ways also.

i forget
i forget
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 3:29 pm

Before/after is an academic crown jewel setting. Nouns & maplines set either side of it. Progress is the ring. Or as Gollum called it, the pretty.

i forget
i forget
  i forget
January 15, 2022 6:55 pm

I no experience has been shown to enflame those of more delicate whenorrhoidal si•tissues. Back when before it was called this, not that, so it was written, so it was done (Pharaoh™) – & those names & faces & days were soooo much better, nothing but regress since then…pass the sno•tissues, please, I’m getting all sentimentaleaky here, thinking ‘bout good ol’ Olduvai Gorge days (& Evel Knievel Snake River Gorge plays, too).

Temporal utopias (or radioisotpias playing that one song that just can’t be headspace evicted) is the headwaters from which project all the “real” utopia projects pep rally’ists insist make life meaningful. But the et’ymology o’ gobble-gobble is only about the aerobic dark meat, the anaerobic white meat, & Alvin York headshots in “the” Nam of merely yet another name. Tropical symbol-word salad jungle fightin’ forever cuz the wo/man can be taken outta’ the jungle, but not vice versa… first rule o’ fight club is the jungle can’t be beat.

Are these firesticks temporally correct? And is this Alvin rendition High Noon shootopian, or what?:

Ghost
Ghost
  i forget
January 17, 2022 9:57 am

I have Mandlebrot rabbits to feed.

I said that to mygirl, above, and if it ain’t a i forget sort of line i dunno what is

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Svarga Loka
January 15, 2022 9:02 pm

ARSH
Anno Reparatae Salutis Humanae
AC
In the Year of the Reparation of Human Salvation.

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  Mygirl....maybe
January 15, 2022 10:29 pm

quoting A B. I’m beginning to think that you have devoted your life to the Church. That virginity thing…….. not so much ; ) [I hate these emoji thingys – they never work to my advantage]

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 2:28 pm

This is a singularly important topic for anyone with even a shred of curiosity about mankind and our history. Believe it or not.

You nailed it. Historically, civilizations numbered their years relative to the ascension of a new king. Chip by chip the foundation is undermined.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  theOtherDan
January 15, 2022 8:03 pm

Do you remember the moments you are free more than those in which you are enslaved? And kings also dictate what gets recorded as history., especially when few read or write, and documentation material is costly.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 2:30 pm

Just start telling people that BCE means Before Christian Era and CE means Christian Era😁

fujigm
fujigm
  Mary Christine
January 15, 2022 4:29 pm

Seriously, I thought that was what it meant.
Because there were no Christians in BC times.
Nothing else changed, so I spent no time looking it up.
I just assimilated it as a different way of saying the same thing, maintaining the reference to Christianity.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
January 16, 2022 6:21 am

Ooooooo, subversive!

Ghost
Ghost
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 4:53 pm

I wonder how such things play a role in the “Mandela Effect” people claim as a thing.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Ghost
January 15, 2022 9:15 pm

That’s different, since it actually changes something in real time. For example, the “Interview with a vampire” DVD that you have stored in your basement for decades would now be named “Interview with the vampire”. And so would every DVD in the world. It is not just someone rewriting history, it is a some part of reality changing in fact, retroactively.

Ghost
Ghost
  Svarga Loka
January 17, 2022 10:00 am

Guess what? I read the book. Hardback, first issue.

Guest
Guest
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 8:33 pm

They’ve changed species etc. to clades. Watch for it in articles and look up who humans are ‘related’ to.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 8:36 pm

Erase history, create your own reality.

In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and therewith also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life’s prime want; after the productive forces have also increased with the all-around development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly—only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be crossed in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs

Vigilant
Vigilant
  hardscrabble farmer
January 17, 2022 8:44 am

I still use BC and AD. They are changing history and reality right before our eyes, changing how many planets (wandering stars) there are, how many continents and how many oceans there are, etc. No wonder children are so messed up when facts change. Recently I learned that officially, facts don’t have to be true. What??? I thought that that’s what a fact is. New lies for every generation. There may be several reasons, one is to sell new textbooks. $$$

Ivor Mechtin, M.D. at Law
Ivor Mechtin, M.D. at Law
January 15, 2022 1:17 pm

I’ve long suspected that this is not the first time Mankind has reached the level of technological advance we experience today.

The History they taught us in school simply ignores things such as the Nazca lines and the cyclopean structures of Greece, Italy and Peru… how does our conventional history account for those things? Or the Pyramids? Oh, they were built with slave labor, were they? That’s like saying the Empire State Building was erected by dealers in concrete and steel.

Right. Because those who dealt in concrete and steel can be shown to have participated in the construction, that must mean they were the driving spiritual force, the inspiring genius which realized the beautiful functionality of the edifice?

So…who built the Pyramids? (Answer “The Pharaohs!” and demonstrate the point had eluded you.)

And then there is the ‘legend’ of Atlantis. Before universal literacy became the Holy Grail of the Enlightenment types, a great deal of wisdom and knowledge was passed down by means of myths and fairy tales. I frequently bring up The Emperors New Clothes because that story conveys a great deal of insight. Human nature appears to be immutable, but a civilization that instilled those lessons into their children in their infancy is bound to produce far fewer blind fools than the one which buys their kids X Boxes and tells them to hide out in their bedrooms playing Fortnite.

I believe Atlantis is a reference to the overthrow of the wicked world as told of in the Bible as the story of Noah’s Flood.

Discovering the cyclopean structures of Peru was another inescapable fact leading me back to Jesus Christ. That kind of thing can’t really be ignored by a man who sincerely wants to know the Truth. I haven’t gotten to watch these videos yet but I look forward to it.

I imagine most of the lies are conveyed through omissions in the record coupled with deliberate misrepresentations of the nature or intent of what we are told about.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Ivor Mechtin, M.D. at Law
January 15, 2022 1:32 pm

Atlantis may also be about the Pre-Adamic flood when Lucifer was benevolent and an incredible number of very advanced civilizations existed.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 3:27 pm

28 minutes of non Company generated Christian information on the worldwide flood. Noah’s was the second flood.

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 3:50 pm

on rankling peeps…. I’m surprised at how few the DVs that the ‘benevolent lucifer’ elicited. Dogma is a difficult thing to step outside of – well…. because that’s it’s purpose. I was never a ‘gapper’ but clearly there are some things that can be resolved using it.

Regarding the video above… leave it to you to give me a stinkin’ homework assignment on a saturday (though these days, got nothing better to do). Grrrrr.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  theOtherDan
January 15, 2022 4:33 pm

Conservative dogma is necessary to prevent even more fads and heresies than we already have. This video just gives the basics and lets us do our research. There is quite a lot of it but most is new agey to the point of disqualifying itself. Real Scripture proves real science. Real science proves real scripture.

Another one hidden is the absurd idea that all three very distinct races evolved from one in just 3,000 years from Noah to Christ. Much less migrated to their own separate regions and developed separate civilizations. Never before or since has God suspended his laws of nature and science just for that purpose or any purpose.
Farmers videos brought up the ancient empire of Tartaria which I mentioned here last week. Like bart simpsons banker. And it’s gone from history in spite of its power and size.

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 4:49 pm

I’m OK w/ dogmatics… but it’s not the same as ‘inspired’.

Real science proves real scripture. absolutely agreed. thanks for the info
… shuffles off to complete assignment.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  theOtherDan
January 15, 2022 4:55 pm

Finis Dakes annotated reference bible has everything on the subject.
It also must be inspired for certain. Dogma is just to serve as a brake to force inspirations to be tested. A Berean always be.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Fleabaggs
January 16, 2022 6:12 am

I agree with you on the real scripture procing real science and vice-versa . This has been one of my private metrics for some times, so I had to say something.

I found this guy to be interesting.

He has newer stuff but this was the video that got me interested in realistic flood explanations. 12k years ago we were all living in ice. Men killed the megafauna and then the earth cooled from that. If we don’t want another ice-age/flood/cataclysm, then humanity has to conquer the stars and itself.

flash
flash
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 6:27 pm
Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  flash
January 15, 2022 6:29 pm

Did someone say Satan was a demon? I didn’t.

flash
flash
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 7:16 pm

Listen the short vid before getting on your high horse.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  flash
January 15, 2022 8:02 pm

I asked a simple question. I’ve watched too many of that smart alecks videos to want to watch another one. He’s a product of Jewish Seminary who uses cheap smirks and sneers when he’s on shaky ground.
I’m an anti Nicean Christian(Catholic, universal) who has defended the the Church against protestantism for many years and often right here.

Before Luther the (((Company))) created islam to rid Christendom from Africa, Asia and Middle East and Europe.

The French revolution was a regime change not a revolution. Done to remove the last Catholic resistance to World Wide usury.

flash
flash
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 8:23 pm

Suit yourself.

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 8:32 pm

fb, take a look at this one. this is the one that has shaken my dogmatics

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  theOtherDan
January 15, 2022 8:50 pm

That was one of his good ones for certain. He believes or used to that Jews are the chosen people and will someday return.
The body of Christ is Israel so I don’t trust his discernment. I’ll use some of his material but not for anything I will have to defend.

Do you know the story of Samuel Untermyer and Cyrus Schofield the neer do well lawyer politician, theologin and family deserter who lived in a Manhattan flat and had paid membership to an exclusive club with Sammy and his pals. When the Reference bible was completed he distributed a copy to every seminary and college in the U.S. and Britain in addition to printing millions of the bibles and gave them to the poor country people all over america to sell for whatever the poor could pay and they could keep all the proceeds. That’s how it happened. Like Rockefeller took over Med schools he took over all the seminaries and dictated what would be used.
With that we got universal teaching of Pre-tib rapture and Dispensationalism which separated “Jews” from Christians by severing the continuity of the bible from old to new and legitimizing Judaism, Kabbalism(communism).

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 9:24 pm

yes I’m familiar w/ schofield et at. (remember the um… exchanges from yesteryear) and… as far as this guy goes (as a uw-madison alumnus) I was highly skeptical prior to watching the vids. For the edification of others… uw-madison is one of -the- most anti Christian colleges in the country. But look at what he is saying regarding the text. The coming together of so many pieces of the puzzle.
The body of Christ is Israel so I don’t trust his discernment.
As I have said before… I’m a ‘supersessionist’ We, the body of believers throughout time -ARE- Isreal.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  theOtherDan
January 15, 2022 9:36 pm

The vids are good like I said and few learned of the Divine council in Chruchianity. I feel blessed to have quit school in the 9th grade. I was self taught pretty much as a kid who could read well and would read adult encyclopedias from 1924, 28 as a pass time. Couldn’t get enough because school was boring me so badly.

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 9:55 pm

re blessed… you were – the rot had already set it.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 11:09 pm

High praise indeed coming from you. If I attract the mind of God it’s because when I escaped my grunthood I dedicated my entire life to freeing his children on earth who suffer from “The Desert of the Self”, tailor made to suit the Oligarchs.

The last 35 of those this has been my only guide although I often fall short.

My hospice worker read My War and wanted to hear my story from cradle to grave abbreviated to a few hours. Now she asked me if she could name her daughter due to arrive Frankie.
This late in the game I’ve gotten more gracious about receiving well meant praise as a parting gift to this life. I certainly did bleed for every ounce of it in both the learning and the sharing of it. I used to have people sit down next to me and say they can see a light coming out of my heart. Not sure about that one but it’s nice to hear.
Thanks again. Still enjoying Farmers “Medium Amber” on my buckwheat pancakes.

Archeaopteryx Phoenix
Archeaopteryx Phoenix
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2022 11:20 pm

Flea

I’m sure that every drop of blood you gave was given towards a greater understanding of life and God.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Archeaopteryx Phoenix
January 15, 2022 11:28 pm

I’ve only recently become a fan of Emmy Lou’s.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Fleabaggs
January 16, 2022 6:20 am

Don’t discount the people who can see the light.

I met many grunts used as tools in war that are good men with good minds. Some exceptional in every regard.

Thanks for the suggestion of the book.

flash
flash
  Fleabaggs
January 16, 2022 7:27 am
Vigilant
Vigilant
  Fleabaggs
January 17, 2022 9:14 am

Bravo to you and your son AP!

Vigilant
Vigilant
  theOtherDan
January 17, 2022 9:13 am

Romans 11

flash
flash
  Fleabaggs
January 16, 2022 7:03 am

“He believes or used to that Jews are the chosen people and will someday return. ”

All Judeans are Israelites, but not all Israelites are Judeans. – Michael Heiser

1. If you were an Israelite, and your nation was elected by God, chosen out from all other nations, were you elect?

2. Is it true that other nations were not elect, does it stand to reason that to be elect one had to be an Israelite? Does it further stand to reason that Gentiles were not elect?

3. Were all Israelites “saved” (i.e., believers in Yahweh who would share the afterlife with Yahweh)?

4. If all Israelites were not saved, were they elect? If they were elect, how could they not be saved?

5. Should the concept of election in the Old Testament be viewed as salvation? In other words, are “elect” and “saved” synonyms? (cf. my definition of “saved” above: believers in Yahweh who would share the afterlife with Yahweh)

6. If “elect” and “saved” are not synonyms, what is the point of election?

My answers to the above are:

1. Yes
2. Yes and Yes
3. No
4. Yes and “Because election and salvation are not the same thing — though nearly all evangelical theologies will assume they are.”
5. No and No
6. Stay tuned.

What say ye?

The Election of Israel and Its Meaning

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  flash
January 16, 2022 7:52 am

I say nothing to that cocktail of tricks and obfuscations only a Jewish Seminarian could love. Your narrow mindedness is showing through like pee down a drunks pants.

flash
flash
  Fleabaggs
January 16, 2022 8:36 am

Everything you hold in contempt is not Jew tricks or obfuscations. Satan can quote occult nonsense too. 3 hours of it posted above.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  flash
January 16, 2022 9:27 am

You don’t know what I hold in contempt. Consider suspect, yes, contempt no, it narrows the mind.

flash
flash
  Fleabaggs
January 16, 2022 9:43 am

I can make a pretty accurate assumption based on your comments.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  flash
January 16, 2022 6:52 pm

Reading your own press releases has curdled your urine.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  flash
January 17, 2022 9:19 am

Great questions and answers, thank you flash . I look forward to watching this.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Vigilant
January 17, 2022 10:10 am

Great questions and answers?

“All Judeans are Israelites, but not all Israelites are Judeans. – Michael Heiser”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites#Judahite,_Judaean,_Jew“All Judeans were not Israelites.The Samaritans, who claim descent from the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh (plus Levi through Aaron for kohens), are named after the Israelite Kingdom of Israel, but many Jewish authorities contest their claimed lineage, deeming them to have been conquered foreigners who were settled in the Land of Israel by the Assyrians,[citation needed] as was the typical Assyrian policy to obliterate national identities.”

“One of many others that were brought in. Only 42,000 Israelites even returned from captivity. The remainder were a satanic concoction of imposters.”

The questions and answers are nothing but obfuscations and have nothing to do with anything.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Fleabaggs
January 17, 2022 9:12 am

Schofield is a heretic so large that he has become an idol. The Schofield brainwashing runs so deep that no matter how much evidence is presented, hardly anyone can be break free and away from the pre-tribulation rapture spell. John Darby? Can’t be true because Scofield. Scofield an occultist? Can’t be true because God wouldn’t have used him. Blah blah blah

flash
flash
January 15, 2022 2:05 pm

Here’s some nearly unknown history. International Jewery i.e. money changers though a vast network of spies, blackmail, intrigue and murder using a loose coalition of the Protestant tools ( their own creation), Muslims Freemasons, Illuminati , other secret societies and nobility who owned them vast sums of money set about to destroy the Catholic church, by murder, robbery, heresy ,scandal and infiltration in the 16th century.
Phillip II by English Professor , and internationally recognized historian , William Thomas Walsh is the most important history book you will ever read.

Philip II: (1527-1598)
William Thomas Walsh
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=1889B28539B7506D637C3D5605BFD2A0

Protestantism is the rot that brought Christendom to the edge of complete destruction.

Philip II: (1527-1598)
by William Thomas Walsh

Walsh’s greatest book–about Europe’s most powerful king ever. But more, it is a panorama of the entire 16th century. Covers the birth of Protestantism and the secret efforts to undermine Catholic unity, the Huguenot wars in France, the Sack of Rome, Great Siege, Battle of Lepanto, Spanish Armada, Council of Trent, etc.; and, Henry VIII, Mary Tudor, Elizabeth I, St. Pius V, St. Teresa of Avila, St. Ignatius of Loyola, etc. Reads fast; never bogs down.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2257809.Philip_II#other_reviews

Ivor Mechtin, M.D. at Law
Ivor Mechtin, M.D. at Law
  flash
January 15, 2022 2:58 pm

Protestantism is the rot that brought Christendom to the edge of complete destruction.

I think you’d better get busy burning them alive, then. Again.

Nothing exemplifies the example Jesus set better than drowning women and children in barrels for the crime of asking whether infants of 6 weeks are able to make meaningful decisions regarding their own baptism.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Ivor Mechtin, M.D. at Law
January 15, 2022 3:53 pm

Just read an account of a NH witch that was impaled with a wooden cross for the crime of consorting with demons in the form of cats.

The obvious, although unasked question, was which behavior was worse? I can live in a world filled with cat ladies, amateur vampire hunters, not so much.

flash
flash
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 6:36 pm

Prolly’ another bullshit story. Stick to Roman quotes and warm fuzzy farm life… you’re good at that. Snark, not so much.

The Salem Witch Trials
WERE FAKED
http://mileswmathis.com/salem.pdf

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  flash
January 15, 2022 6:49 pm

I was just wondering which you’d prefer.

I’ll sleep lighter for the knowledge.

flash
flash
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 7:19 pm

You should try Ambien. I hear that works.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  flash
January 15, 2022 7:23 pm

I’d rather work for my rest.

To sleep, perchance to dream…

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 9:44 pm

amen
I long for the serenity of my previous farm days.

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  flash
January 15, 2022 9:42 pm

they weren’t faked… but neither were they condoned by the vast majority of protestant Churches at the time.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  theOtherDan
January 16, 2022 6:26 am

eye witness, were ya?

Guest
Guest
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 8:42 pm

Well I used to think this but I’m pretty convinced luciferians etc. are real and many now and not good. Many were not though, but it’s like pedophiles- it’s so horrendous to accuse an innocent person but the real ones are horrendous.

flash
flash
  Ivor Mechtin, M.D. at Law
January 15, 2022 6:32 pm

You confuse indoctrination with education…that’s you problem right here, junior.
You neither read nor comprehend.

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Characters of the Inquisition
William Thomas Walsh
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=E3D1B6879E718DCCD73714297809A86F

Characters of the Inquisition

William Thomas Walsh

Refutes the many lies about the Inquisition raised by the enemies of the Church. Shows why it was instituted, the purpose it served, its long-term effects, and why it preserved Catholic countries from the infamous witch-hunts besmirching Protestant history. All this is achieved by narrating the stories of six Grand Inquisitors. Exonerates the Church of all wrong-doing. Really dispels the lies about this institution. 320 pgs, PB
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/654907.Characters_of_the_Inquisition

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  flash
January 15, 2022 6:44 pm

flash….
have you ever read ‘fair sunshine’? It’s a pretty good illustration of comparison of two opposing natures and not a very long read. My favorite… the two women who were staked out in the ocean at low tide merely for not toasting the king. (I suppose I need to do this – S-off)

flash
flash
  theOtherDan
January 15, 2022 7:52 pm

The problem is you imagine it all spiritual and no politics was ever involved. Here’s news. The Protestant Reformation was a a color revolution financed and organized by international Jewry. You know of the martyrs and your heart bleed, but you know nothing of the men behind the machinations. Conspiracies didn’t being with Trump.

Treason has always been and should be again, a death sentence.
Dig a little deeper bud.

A 26-year-old minister, became the last of the Covenanter Martyrs when he disowned James VII’s royal authority and was hanged in the Grassmarket in Edinburgh on February 17, 1688. In any case the vast majority of the clergy and the people opposed any measure of tolerance towards Catholics which James had tried to impose by the “divine right” of kings after both the English and Scottish Parliaments rejected his measures.

James also began to put his fellow Catholics into positions of authority and Protestants could only hope that James, by then in his mid-50s, would soon die as his appointed heir was his daughter from his first marriage, Mary, a Protestant married to the very Protestant Prince William of Orange, the leader of the Dutch Republic.

On June 10, 1688, those hopes of a Protestant succession were dashed when James’s Catholic wife Mary of Modena gave birth to a son, James Francis Edward Stuart, who was baptised a Catholic.

Just five days after the new heir’s birth, seven bishops of the Church of England were put on trial for asking to be excused from reading from the pulpit James VII’s latest version of the Declaration of Indulgence. They included the Archbishop of Canterbury, William Sancroft.

Widespread anti-Catholic riots took place in England and Scotland during the trial which ended with the Seven Bishops being cleared. Senior Protestant politicians faced with a Catholic dynasty decided to invite William and Mary to take the throne and thus the so-called Glorious or Bloodless Revolution took place in November, 1688. It was neither Glorious nor Bloodless – as the Battle of Killiecrankie would show a few months later – but that’s how William’s spin doctors portrayed it.

James went into exile in France but to make sure he went, the Edinburgh Mob gathered on December 9 and 10, 1688, determined that the so-called “Jesuit threat” of Roman Catholicism would not return to Scotland.

On December 9, a mob began to gather and the following morning the Town Council rushed out a proclamation ordering children and servants to stay indoors.

Remarkably, we have an eye-witness account of the events in Edinburgh that day, preserved in the National Library of Scotland, produced by Alexander Adamson, then a divinity student in the capital, and one of the rioters.

https://www.thenational.scot/culture/19762680.day-fearsome-anti-catholic-mob-rioted-edinburgh/

Read this book and get back on me on who, betwixt the Catholics and Protestants, murdered who. BTW, it’s substantially more than 194 pages.

http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=1889B28539B7506D637C3D5605BFD2A0

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  flash
January 15, 2022 10:50 pm

you obviously know the history… but don’t presume that I don’t understand the politics. My point was that there is a difference between execution and torture. I can kill (and have- no not people…) but I didn’t -sadistically enjoy it

flash
flash
  theOtherDan
January 16, 2022 8:57 am

Phillip II

http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=1889B28539B7506D637C3D5605BFD2A0

At the very moment when Columbus was claiming the new
western world for Christianity and announcing the beginning of the
Last Age of which he thought God had made him the harbinger, the
stage was set for the most serious and widespread disaster the
Church had yet had to face. It was something more important than
the mere preaching of an exasperated monk against the abuse of
indulgences; it was deeper than even the discontent of saintly men
like More and Ignatius Loyola.

In the Protestant Revolt there was something more than the
mere breaking away of the northern communities from the
jurisdiction of Rome; much more than the nationalism to which
Professor Carlton Hayes ascribes perhaps too much importance.
There was a spirit in Protestantism in its first phase that sought
something more than freedom; it sought nothing less (and this was
more evident in Calvinism than in Lutheranism) than the utter
destruction of the Catholic Church. Here was a hatred that began
manifesting itself by the burning of churches and convents, the
violation of nuns, the torture and execution of priests, the defiling of
the Cross and the unspeakable desecration of the Blessed
Sacrament.

It was an old and international hatred. It was the hatred of the
church-burning Donatists, the hatred of Islam, the hatred that had
opposed Saint Paul in Rome and Saint James in Jerusalem, the
hatred of Annas and the scribes and pharisees crying, “Come down
from the Cross, and we will believe!” There was nothing new about it
except the form it took; but the preparation and organization were
better, and the time was ripe.

If ever there was a place in the world where liberty was loudly
invoked, and cruelly trampled and despised, it was Elizabethan
England. The number of Catholics put to death for conscience, since
1559, had been less than in France, though more than the 270
executions of Protestants under Mary; but for cold ferocity and
bloody completeness, the persecution had had few parallels in
history. Every mail from England brought reports of the most
barbarous slaughter of priests and laymen, especially, these days, of
Jesuits, who had undertaken the conversion of the country as a
special mission. The letter in which Mendoza informed his King of
the fate of the gallant Campion and his friends, was by no means
exceptional:
“Of the Catholics whom, as I wrote, they had arrested, they have
condemned this term thirteen priests and one layman, three of them
having been executed on the first instant in London, amongst them
being Campion of the Company of Jesus. They suffered martyrdom
with invincible constancy, after the most atrocious torments, and their countenances whilst they were being dragged to the place shone like those of persons to whom God had given a crown for their faithful service. The rest of them are most firm, and they will be martyred atthe places where they were arrested.

“A printed statement has been issued here that they are not
condemned for their religion, but for having plotted with the Pope to
kill the Queen, and other like fictions to deceive the people. Knollys,
the treasurer of the household, and a Councillor, who is a great
heretic, was present at the execution, and cried out that this was not
a case of religion but of treason, with respect to which, both at the
trial and before their death, all the men said some holy words,
asserting their innocence and pardoning their persecutors. Their
martyrdom has greatly edified and confirmed all Catholics, while the
heretics are confounded. There were three thousand horsemen and
a great number of foot men present at the execution. Persons of
great intelligence and trustworthiness assure me that one of these
priests called Briant, whom I knew well, and who was a man of
twenty-six or twenty-eight years old, had, during his incarceration,
been favored by God with revelations to strengthen him in the cruel
torments he had to bear. Their last torment was deprivation of sleep
and food . . . When Campion was executed, it was noticed that all his
nails had been dragged out in the torture.

“The behavior of these priests has been so exemplary, and their
firmness in suffering such fearful deaths has been so conspicuous,
that they may be counted amongst the great martyrs of the Church
of God. For Him to allow the Catholics to be so much afflicted again,
and so much martyrs’ blood to be spilt, is a sign that He will be
pleased soon to convert the country.” He added that Catholics at the
risk of their own lives ran to catch the blood of the martyrs and to
collect some of their possessions as relics. Campion and his friends,
of course, were disemboweled and otherwise horribly mutilated
before being finally dispatched.1

This was in 1581. By 1585 a series of similar public exhibitions
had almost completely suppressed any sign of Catholic worship in
England. Although the majority of the people clung to the Faith so
persistently that as late as 1592 Cecil (then Lord Burleigh) could
complain that they comprised “so great a multitude of vulgar people; yea, some that are of wealth and countenance,”2
they were almost completely reduced to silence and to a numb hope that Philip II would come with a fleet to deliver them.

flash
flash
  flash
January 16, 2022 9:03 am

Good ole Christian Protestants…doing their god’s work.

http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=1889B28539B7506D637C3D5605BFD2A0

The blood of too many innocent victims cried out, perhaps,
against this dying persecutor of the Church of Christ. It was not
merely the hundreds of priests and laymen who had been tortured
and butchered in England for no other crime but preaching authentic
Christianity, or for giving food and shelter to those who did. It was not
even the savage slaughter committed in her name in Ireland. This
was incomparably worse in one sense, and there is hardly a chapter
in all history so cruel. Cecil, by an Act of 1569 reducing all Ireland to
shire land and cancelling the indentures made by Irish chiefs with the
English crown, had been able to pretend that those who resisted
giving up their lands were “rebels,” and so beyond the rules of
civilized warfare, and thus he had begun what his Masonic nephew
Bacon called “the wild chase on the wild Irishmen.” He attempted no
less than to purge the rich soil of Ireland of the Irish race.
“Torturers and hangmen went out with the soldiers. There was
no protection for any soul: the old, the sick, infants, women,
scholars; any one might be a landowner, or a carrier-on of the
tradition of the tribal owners, and was in any case a rebel appointed
to death. No quarter was allowed, no faith kept, and no truce given
. . . It lasted for some seventy years. The Irish were inexhaustible in
defense, prodigious in courage, and endured hardships that
Englishmen could not survive. The most powerful governors that
England could supply were sent over, and furnished with English
armies and stores. Fleets held the harbors, and across all the seas
from Newfoundland to Danzig gathered in provisions for the soldiers.
Armies fed from the seaports chased the Irish through the winter
months, when the trees were bare and naked and the kine without
milk, killing every living thing and burning every granary of corn, so
that famine should slay what the sword had lost. Out of the woods
the famishing Irish came creeping on their hands, for their legs would
not bear them, speaking like ghosts crying out of their graves, if they
found a few water-cresses flocking as to a feast; so that in short
space there were almost none left, and a most populous and plentiful
country suddenly left void of man and beast.”13

flash
flash
  theOtherDan
January 15, 2022 8:24 pm

When you get a minute, give this a read.

England’s Greatest Coverup ~ England’s Catholic Genocide: Roman Catholic Guy Fawkes ~ The Rustle For America Begins!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
January 16, 2022 6:24 am

Protestantism is the mirror of the rot in the RC church. Both make the same mistake of putting the AFTER-life before the one at hand. Both are extremely heretical to the Gospels and only reconcile with Christianity at all through pilpul interactions with Paulianity.

Warren
Warren
January 15, 2022 5:49 pm

My dad was a SAC teletype operator during the cold war. As such he had to be given a Top Secret clearance, because he was the guy typing up the messages containing secrets being passed from one general officer to another.
Soo later, in spite of the fact that his specialty was hard to fill, because finding young men who could type fast and do so without making many mistakes was difficult, they made him an SP and assigned him to guarding a hanger at Wright Patterson.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Warren
January 15, 2022 6:05 pm

Isn’t that where the Roswell artifacts were relocated?

Warren
Warren
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 6:56 pm

Yup.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 15, 2022 7:45 pm

Hardscrabble farmer please read the book “the giza power plant” by Christopher Dunn. Mr. Dunn is a machinist by trade which means that he sees the world differently than you or I, much like you see things differently than some city boy. Christopher Dunn clearly points out machine marks and even accidental cuts, have you ever accidentally gone off a line with your circular saw while cutting plywood? Well so did the people who constructed the pyramids. There is evidence in a half finished sarcophagus and the fucked up cut can only have been done with power tools. Please give the book a read, I promise you will find it interesting.

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
January 15, 2022 7:50 pm

Internet’s too slow out on the marsh, 10-15 MBPS at the best. Will save and watch Tuesday when back in civilization (350+ MBPS).

BTW, there’s a huge school of thought that in the “west” 300-1000AD is a fictional history.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  lamont cranston
January 15, 2022 7:58 pm

It would appear that something about the timeline is seriously askew. Not that it would be possible to unravel the morass that passes for historic knowledge at this point, but the feeling you get when you watch hour after hour of these buildings and structures from around the globe gives you a contextual appreciation that simply does not exist within the mainstream narrative.

Guest
Guest
  lamont cranston
January 15, 2022 8:46 pm

Yes, this very interesting and seems even mainstream people are hard pressed to refute it.
Also a big chunk out of BC.

I’ve just been reading Velikovsky again with flat earth eyes. Worlds in Collision and Ages in Chaos.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 9:28 pm

Clever man.

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2022 11:56 pm

and your posts manifest the sincerity – kudos

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
January 16, 2022 6:34 am

AP, my life has gotten easier since discovering humility, and for the same reason.

-Ken31

Brewer55
Brewer55
  hardscrabble farmer
January 16, 2022 11:17 am

And the opposite being “false” pride — the worst sin of all.

Leah
Leah
January 15, 2022 11:53 pm

Thanks HSF. Watched it all. Totally possible and even probable. Don’t want to spoil, but do want to mention the fires that consumed many venues. It’s not at all beyond what the powers that want to be have done and think they can do. The parts about the children were heartbreaking. They are doing it again.

That said, I did do a bit more looking up re Chilaga. When you type it in search, you are directed to Chicago. Hmmm.

Sharing this. His delivery is dry, but elaborates.

Thanks again.

Brewer55
Brewer55
  Leah
January 16, 2022 11:19 am

Is it because we are about to go through another “Great Reset” aka “The 4th Turning” that so much of our past is coming to light, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Brewer55
January 16, 2022 5:31 pm

I’ve been wondering the same thing. Velikovsky was onto something with his collective memory theory.

flash
flash
January 16, 2022 7:18 am

Ecclesiastes 1:9
What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

“Up ahead they’s a thousan’ lives we might live, but when it comes it’ll on’y be one.”
― John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

Worlds in Collision

Worlds in Collision

Velikovsky explains that:

:”I came upon the idea that traditions and legends and memories of generic origin can be treated in the same way in which we treat in psychoanalysis the early memories of a single individual. I spent ten years on this work. I found that the collective memory of mankind spoke of a series of global catastrophes that occurred in historical times. I believed that I could even identify the exact times and the very agents of the great upheavals of the more recent past. The conclusions at which I arrived compelled me to cross the frontiers into various fields of science, archaeology, geology, and astronomy”.Immanuel Velikovsky, “Supplement: Worlds in Collision in the Light of Recent Finds in Archaeology, Geology, and Astronomy ” Earth in Upheaval, 1956

In the preface to Worlds in Collision, Velikovsky summarized his arguments:

:Worlds in Collision is a book of wars in the celestial sphere that took place in historical times. In these wars the planet earth participated too. … The historical-cosmological story of this book is based in the evidence of historical texts of many people around the globe, on classical literature, on epics of the northern races, on sacred books of the peoples of the Orient and Occident, on traditions and folklore of primitive peoples, on old astronomical inscriptions and charts, on archaeological finds, and also on geological and paleontological material.

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January 16, 2022 8:43 am

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January 16, 2022 9:07 am

Psalm 82

1 God presides in the great assembly;
he renders judgment among the “gods”:

2 “How long will you[a] defend the unjust
and show partiality to the wicked?[b]
3 Defend the weak and the fatherless;
uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed.
4 Rescue the weak and the needy;
deliver them from the hand of the wicked.

5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing.
They walk about in darkness;
all the foundations of the earth are shaken.

6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’
7 But you will die like mere mortals;
you will fall like every other ruler.”

8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth,
for all the nations are your inheritance.

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  flash
January 16, 2022 9:33 am

“In the alluvial sweep of the land, I thought I could see the past and the present and the future all at once, as though time were not sequential in nature but took place without a beginning or an end, like a flash of green light rippling outward from the center of creation, not unlike a dream inside the mind of God.”
― James Lee Burke