800,000 Lives Could Have Been Saved with Ivermectin and HCQ – Dr. Pierre Kory

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Anonymous
Anonymous
March 21, 2022 7:55 am

And so many others that wouldn’t have taken the jab

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
March 21, 2022 8:03 am

That’s simply not true. And I believe in the efficacious nature of prudent Ivermectin use. It odes work on a host of issues for livestock- as well as humans- but it is neither the panacea some cheerleaders tout it to be, nor is it possible to know how many people could or would have died if they did this or that. It’s entirely hypothetical and that kind of reasoning is deeply flawed.

Don’t be like your enemy. You can’t prove a negative. Do your own due diligence and try to stay healthy as long as possible.

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  hardscrabble farmer
March 21, 2022 8:53 am

entirely hypothetical

Are you deranged??
Dr. Kory is not a “hypothetical” statistician, he is an MD who has worked on the front lines during Covid, and who has seen for himself the results of [at that time experimental] use of Ivermectin in summer/autumn 2020.

And it would be very well possible to know much more exactly, if Cohort Studies had been started early, or even done at all up to today.

Finally, even without knowing or not if it’s the panacea, not a single fucking “study” has shown Ivermectin to have negative effects on anybody, either healthy or having Covid. Maybe, just maybe, it’s useless, OK, but why not still try it?

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  m
March 21, 2022 10:22 am

And again, I find myself agreeing with both of you.

The exact number of lives lost unnecessarily is impossible to say. Likewise, it would be impossible to say “200,000 lives could have been saved if people in power would have recommended weight loss and more exercise”. How many obese people would have even acted on it, and how many fat people would have survived against the odds and how many thin people would have died? Nobody knows.

Fact is, eating healthy and generally leading a healthy lifestyle prolongs your life and, maybe more importantly, improves your quality of life.

As far as Ivermectin, there is enough evidence I have seen in myself and others in my circles to know that it has pretty much no risk and only potential benefit. Add in that I generally do the opposite of what I am told, it seems to be a good thing to take Ivermectin.

factual
factual
  m
March 21, 2022 12:32 pm

Ivermectin 81 studies from 782 scientists and 128,840 patients in 27 countries

152 ivermectin COVID-19 studies, 103 peer reviewed, 81 comparing treatment and control groups.
https://c19ivermectin.com/

Hydroxychloroquine 330 studies from 5,231 scientists and 453,570 patients in 50 countries

398 HCQ COVID-19 studies, 301 peer reviewed, 329 comparing treatment and control groups.
https://c19hcq.com/

Far from useless.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  m
March 21, 2022 1:09 pm

I’m pretty sure that I’m not deranged but if I were I wouldn’t know, so you’re asking the wrong guy.

I do know that I apply the same standards to each group and proving something did or did not occur because something was or was not used is not what I would consider a reasonable position.

Again, it may be true, but there’s simply no way to prove that it is, so you can’t make that claim in good faith.

And I was talking about Ivermectin since the beginning, so I am clearly not opposed to it and think every individual has the right to use whatever treatment they think is best for themselves. We keep it around the same way we have aspirin, alcohol and hydrogen peroxide on hand, because they have shown that they work. I wouldn’t claim however that I am alive because of them because that’s not something anyone could ever know.

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  hardscrabble farmer
March 21, 2022 1:27 pm

Is there anything that you believe you can claim?
Such as “eating keeps you alive”?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  m
March 21, 2022 5:35 pm

There is no way to prove empirically that hundreds of thousands of lives were lost due to a failure to prescribe Ivermectin. However it is an empirical truth that human beings require sustenance in order to live. Comparing the two things is specious at best.

You’re being offended intentionally. I hate to use the term but in this case it’s apt; your behavior is decidedly gamma. Perhaps you should fix that.

Most of us are looking to discover as much authenticity as we are able to discern. The truth is a high hurdle when it comes to human behaviors so it is always best to err on the side of what can be proven, not assumed.

MainMeister
MainMeister
  hardscrabble farmer
March 21, 2022 11:16 pm

Why would HCQ work? The only reason it could provide a benefit is if COVID was causing overreactions in the immune system. People probably would have to take it pre-emptively… which would be more strain on your body (taking it for weeks at a time) than COVID in most cases… if it actually did anything

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  MainMeister
March 22, 2022 10:20 am

Perhaps I am jaded, but based on what I have observed not just in the last 2 years but the last 2 decades, the best reason to take Hydroxychloroquin prophylactically is that they are telling you not to.

You have no proof that HCQ is a bigger strain on your body than Covid. There is also no proof that Covid does much harm to a healthy person either.

Bottomline: We are on our own. Godspeed.

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  hardscrabble farmer
March 22, 2022 3:27 am

“empirical” = originating in or based on observation or experience
So tell us, what do you think Dr. Kory was doing, when working on the Covid frontlines?

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I have realized a lot of you (incl. AA, Red) were nicely described by Tom Luongo’s recent piece:
“XXX likes to play tough guy. […] For them their fear is far worse, it’s reputational which means fear of exposure.
They hide behind cameras, their positions, and their egos.
They live in fear of being shamed.”

So yeah, every time someone calls me beta/gamma/epsilon/soy/whatever or in writing threatens me bodily, while avoiding to cleanly respond to arguments or questioning/refutation of theirs.

The best part, I really LOL’ed, was you recently trying to start a dick comparison “I’ve been discarding everything I ever believed in my life for over a quarter of a century now so there aren’t many narratives left for me.” Well, congrats, similar here, but I didn’t discard everything except the stuff I experienced myself.

Why don’t you go back to “witty trolling” or whatever you believe it to be. You could now state “the invasion of Ukraine never happened. Putin doesn’t exist, and not sure if even Ukraine exists”, for example.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  m
March 22, 2022 10:15 am

You’re too smart to be so socially awkward.

Why don’t you come up and visit for a couple of days and talk face to face? Serious offer, we probably have a lot more in common than we disagree on and we’d probably find a lot of common ground.

And point of fact, Ukraine doesn’t exist. The Ukraine does, sort of like The United States of America, not United States. If people knew what it meant they’d have a far better understanding of what’s going on, but they don’t have the curiosity God gave a turnip.

That’s part of the reason they change words like Kiev to Kyiv, to keep people in a perpetual state of confusion and uncertainty.

m
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  hardscrabble farmer
March 22, 2022 1:04 pm

It’s unlikely I will ever visit the US again.
Now you’re down to word semantics.

And 45 minutes earlier you posted
‘[Joe Rogan’s] “it’s all so confusing” schtick is getting old.’

I really don’t know/understand what you want to achieve with that buffoonery.

Rube Goldberg's Razor
Rube Goldberg's Razor
March 21, 2022 8:09 am

Resist that eternal boot:
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Corporate-State Fascism Is Already Here – Long live capitalism:
https://thegoodcitizen.substack.com/p/corporate-state-fascism-is-already?s=w

Elder Son
Elder Son
March 21, 2022 10:35 am

The majority of people in the USA didn’t die of the influenza, their influenza deaths were exacerbated by 2+ years of “Covid” Protocols and intentional Medical Malpractice “Covid” Protocols. And everyone ignores the ELEPHANT in the room.

I suppose Boobus really believe that the “Covid” was so bad-ass, it kicked out the flu.

And/or, all your face diapering really did eradicate the flu… just not the “Covid”.

Meanwhile… Oh look! They released some Pfizer docs!

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Sismarin
Sismarin
March 21, 2022 5:14 pm

Thank you ! Every broadcast may save a life. Like mine and my husbands. As a retired nurse, I have seen the deception from the beginning. I take responsibility for my and my families health. We survived delta with flccc protocol although I had to use the horse paste and dose it myself. That treatment although it might not be labeled a miracle cure it was obvious that the first dose started relieving the symptoms within hours. Improvement continued with each days dose.
And what happened to the 320 million doses of HCQ that President T bought enough for every american? Is it locked up in stockpiles by our current gov? Like the monoclonal antibodies? This is obviously not accidental, it’s genocide.
There is a point which the medical personnel cannot hide behind ignorance, incompetence or I was brainwashed excuses. Stand up now and do the right thing.

Leethal
Leethal
March 21, 2022 7:57 pm

Ant Tony Faucteeth – the lying murderer. He must be hanged, arrested, then investigated in that order. We do things the way he did things to US.

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