Off Grid – but not in The Woods

Via Eric Peters Autos

Is it necessary to live in the Woods to live off the grid? Not at all. Or at least, not all the way.

What is the “grid,” first of all?

The term refers to the centralized – and centrally controlled – distribution networks for such things as power and water, chiefly. To be “off the grid” means you obtain your power (it is not necessarily just electricity) and water from a source independent of this grid that is under your control. So as to not be dependent upon the grid and – even more so, these days – beholden to it. Not having to worry that those who do control it will use it to control you, as by threatening to turn off your power and water.

But it does not mean living in the Woods.

Or at least, it doesn’t mean you have to live in the Woods.

Millions of people  (this writer included) are already off-grid as regards their water supply – a thing at least and arguably even more critical than food supply. You can survive weeks without much or even any food. You cannot survive for more than a few days without water. It is hard to eat without water. It is extremely difficult to maintain hygiene without it, too.

These millions of people have wells on their property. They control their water supply, which is also a supply of water that will be free of the things included for “free” in the recycled toilet water that’s piped into millions of other people’s homes; e.g., chlorine and fluoride.

Which they pay to drink and bathe in.

A well isn’t cheap to dig but once it’s done you own your water supply – and you’ll never get another water bill, either.

You will, however, require power to get that water out of the well. But even so, it’s not necessary to connect to the electric grid to obtain it. Most people who have wells also have back-up generators that power the well pump when grid power goes down. In principle, one could power a well pump all the time, without grid power. There is solar power and there is propane power. Many home back-up generators run on propane or can be easily converted to run on it. Including smaller, portable rigs.

Propane is is similar to natural gas but different in that it is not on-grid. There is no propane gas line connecting your home to the distribution network, as is the case with natural gas.

Instead, you have a propane tank – small or big – and the propane within it is not connected to anything besides what you’ve connected it to, such as your home. It can be used in conjunction with solar-electric and grid-back-up power to run a generator and/or a stove and or a tankless water heater. Also, a heater, for you – so that you won’t be frozen out in the winter if the grid goes down.

You can’t “pay-it-forward” when it comes to grid electricity, which is transmitted continuously but which stops being transmitted, completely, when the grid goes down (or a tree downs a power line). But you can with propane. Many people buy it ahead of time, not only to have it – in case the grid goes down – but also to avoid paying more for it. Those who bought a couple hundred gallons before Putin Bad! Ukraine Good! for instance paid a lot less for it than people who bought it after. You can also often buy propane now – ahead of time – for a set price, agreed to by buyer and seller. As opposed to paying as you go. And – if you own your own tank – you can shop for the best price, something that’s impossible to do with grid electric power.

The bottom line is you’ll have much more control over the cost of your propane than over  the cost of grid power and once you’ve bought it, you own it and so you control it.

Neither of the above forms of decoupling from the grid requires living in the Woods. It only requires decoupling from the grid. It’s not even necessary to have a well – or a way to power it – if you have a water-catch system, which is a something almost anyone can rig up almost anywhere. Provided it rains, you will have water – and not be dependent on the grid (or power) for it.

This is probably why such systems are being illegalized in some areas of the country. The last thing they want is for anyone to be independent of them. Same goes for talk of charging people who have wells for their own water. No one is under any moral obligation to obey such tyrannical edicts and thus morally free to end-run/disobey them at will.

Wood, by the way, is another way to get off the grid. If you have woods, even better – as you can cut your own wood and use it to heat and cook and even boil water for cleaning, if need be. A wood stove serves all those purposes – and it’s entirely under your control. If you haven’t got woods, you can still buy wood – and once you buy it, you have it. Two or three cords of it, neatly stacked, can be considered the off-grid fuel-equivalent of a year’s worth of stored food. You won’t starve – or freeze. And if you convert federal reserve notes into wood, the amount of wood you bought won’t be 15 (or 50) percent less six months from now.

Another way to be off grid without being (necessarily ) in the Woods is to decrease your dependence upon the food grid. I’ve written previously about raising backyard poultry – chickens and ducks, etc.- and how that plus a garden can be done by almost anyone almost anywhere.

Even in suburbia.

The bottom line is that being off-grid is more a mindset than a location.

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7 Comments
ASIG
ASIG
April 8, 2022 6:11 pm

”You can’t “pay-it-forward” when it comes to grid electricity, which is transmitted continuously but which stops being transmitted, completely, when the grid goes down”

NO that’s not true. I now have a Solar PV System that produces all the electrical power that I need and then some, and since the system is all paid for I essentially have FREE electricity for as many years that the system will last.

Last year I installed 40 320 W panel s (12,800W) on the roof of my barn (way more then I needed) and then after that I installed a battery backup system which consists of 16 Sealed Lead Acid batteries for total capacity of 480 AH 48 VDC , 39,840 WH. So the electrical grid can go down for a day a week a month, I’m not going to care. I’ll be able to continue to produce, store and use electricity. I’m grid tied but I’m not dependent on the grid. I also replaced an old backup propane powered generator with a new much quieter propane generator; the old one was crazy loud.

When I say “I installed” this solar PV System what I mean is I didn’t pay anyone to do this for me, I did the entire project myself. I did the research online for Solar equipment suppliers, I applied for the permits to do the work as an “Owner Builder” , I got all those panels up onto the roof of the barn by myself, completed the application process with PG&E and obtained their approval . And I did not Hire an electrician to do any of the electrical work, nor did I hire anyone as “technical advisor”, I did it all myself. And to top it off I’m quite proud of the fact that when the country inspector came to sign off on the permit his comment was “This is one of the nicest installs that I’ve seen”.

Also I should mention that at that time last year I was 76 YRs old. I know plenty guys my age that won’t even go near a ladder much less carry 40 Solar panels across the roof of a barn, Alone.

Doing the work myself I saved more than half of what it would have cost to pay a Solar Co to do the install.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  ASIG
April 8, 2022 7:14 pm

Kudos to you ASIG

ASIG
ASIG
  ASIG
April 8, 2022 9:18 pm

correction – the County Inspector

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  ASIG
April 9, 2022 7:36 am

You just recharged my batteries with that account.

Inspirational.

daniel bjorndahl
daniel bjorndahl
April 8, 2022 6:12 pm

Propane and propane accessories

Oldtoad of Green Acres
Oldtoad of Green Acres
April 9, 2022 5:24 am

Off the grid can be hiding in plain sight. Learned about that when my dad was a over the road bed bug hauler (furniture mover). The poor are mostly invisible, they can be off the grid but are close to it and all around us.
First solar setup was on a 16′ cargo trailer converted to bed and motorcycle carrier, lasted 5 years until sold. It had lead acid batteries on a cheap charge controller, they lasted a few more years to the guy that bought it. Have a little solar panel for the 12v outdoor hot tub pump and propane water heater, if it all goes down. 300 watts solar panel on the camper van roof is plenty for mobile power, independent from the motor’s charging system.
Now, Lithium ion is the way to go, cheaper than lead acid and long life. Do a dig deeper search if considering. A few years ago I bought 4ea. 280Ah cells from China for a little over $400 plus BMS and heating pad, add a couple of hundred more. Now a days you can buy a very nice complete setup for a little more.
Water is the difficult commodity. Toxic stuff abounds. Berkey water filters are common, stock up on the filters.
The grid, kerosene, gasoline and propane are in my current energy mix, adding wood this year. The grid is looking vulnerable and decaying.
Looking for a church community.

Winchester
Winchester
April 9, 2022 8:28 am

Eric writes good posts, but he far from a prepper. Kudos to him with acquiring water and storing it. I distance from him with the propane thing. We do have a large propane tank that is used strictly for cooking and hot water. When I went the generator route I chose not to use propane for power production. Outside of it being highly inefficient compared to gas/diesel, it is also harder to acquire when you run out. I went the diesel route for my generator because I can acquire it much easier. It may not store as well as propane, but if treated it will last a while. I have two 55 gallon drums full of off-road diesel that I cycle out and use in my tractor. In a TEOTWAWKI situation I can go siphon diesel from vehicles or go take heating oil and burn that in the generator. I could also do biodiesel, which is my next project.