What is the root cause of our current culture’s victim mentality? Is there a tipping point? Will our society ever tire of all the whining and reject it, if so when? If not, where will this constant coddling lead to, what kind of future are we looking at?
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Women. Women’s opinions being listened to – whether at the voting booth or just in general. If there’s a guy living in a tent alongside the road and mooching money for booze, most men will think “that fucker should be arrested” or “he needs to get a fucking job”. Most women will think “that poor guy – the government needs to do more to help people like that”. Note that it’s not 100% for either sex. Men are probably 60/40 insensitive and women are probably 60/40 overly sensitive.
well, when those women have no need of a man because they have the big sugar daddy in government covering things, again, the system essentially makes it profitable to be a victim, so long as you remain useless and provide pccasional muscle to crush non-victims.
MONEY!
There’s a fortune to made in playing the victim.
AND shilling for the “victims.” That witless
ghettopotomus shilling for BLM has numerous mansions now.
Tracksuit Al and Lil’ Jesse J are multimillionaires who never worked a
day in their whiney lives.
CHA-CHING!
I see a couple of low-T men weighed in on my comment.
One likely place — when the whole holoco$t reparations started post-WW2 … and everyone who was paying attention realized that (a) being a ‘victim’ — especially everywhere, all of the time, forever — was a great attention-getting device; (b) it could lead to lot$ and lot$ of reparation$ — a cow that (((they))) are still milking — even claiming that the grandchildren have some sort of genes that ‘suffer’; (c) being a ‘victim’ got you special treatment — you don’t have to conform to what everyone else has to conform to … you get ‘special handling’ and ‘preferences’ and ‘set asides’ in many areas of jobs — homes, jobs, etc.
It’s just a matter of degree — and who controls the media and the money … in other words, who has access to the levers of power and control …
The 13th Amendment, Section 2 of the 14th Amendment, the 15th Amendment, and the 19th Amendment.
Should have stopped at 10th Amendment.
we definitely need a rollback. However, there are even a few big doses of poison in the basic articles – allowing congress to issue debt for example, not limiting congress to the same ‘only gold or silver coin’ hard money rules as the states, you know that the hamilton faction was pissing in the well back then.
The 10th Amendment has been quietly thrown into the dustbin by using the 14th to attain all of the social engineering in the US in the past couple decades … likely to continue as more and more of the 3d world invades US … as more and more ‘victim’ groups gain traction …
The Great Society agenda of LBJ and the guilt-ridden white liberals. Also the murdering of MLK and Malcolm X, two people, regardless of what you think of their politics, spoke to the need of blacks to stand on their own, take responsibility, create parallel societies, etc. and otherwise free themselves of white society. Once the conspirators like Jesse, AL, and others were free of MLK’s presence, they pushed victimhood to the max.
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MLK was a phony.
Who wasn’t?
Only One I can think of.
Thats it!
Its both a political and cultural failure, where each feeds off the other in a positive feedback loop.
Ultimately, its simply human nature at the End of Empire. Literally as old as civilization itself.
Which empires? I can’t think of any.
The fact that you can’t think of any means nothing.
Educate yourself here:
http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf
Empires all fail, in similar time spans and in similar ways. The failures are political, cultural, economic, religious and more. The failures of sub parts are all part of the same big failure of the whole empire. Of course there are feedback loops.
Some think this all started with Participation Trophies and encouraging boys to weep like women.
I disagree.
Women have no physical power over men…only emotional/sexual/verbal. The rise of 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc wave feminism has led to a gyno-centric society where women rule all. This is where it all started. Way back when women were told to burn their bras, take the pill, and fuck like men and told there will be “no consequences”.
In order to maintain that, we must make victims of everyone and emotions must replace facts at every level.
Otherwise, men would figure out the play and the gig would be quite up.
So on the one hand, make everyone emotionally juvenile and weak, and on the other make all men toxic.
This is also the push for male-to-female transgenderism and seeing men in dresses and hose and all manner of make up and clownish BS.
Yet we do NOT see the push for female-to-male transgenderism, at least not as much.
You will not see FTM trans ask to be put in a male prison
You will not see FTM trans compete in men’s sports
Why? Because no matter what we say or pretend to be true, WOMEN ARE SIMPLY INCAPABLE OF PHYSICALLY COMPETING OR DEFENDING AGAINST MEN.
Society can say whatever they want, and you can put all the bumper stickers, Facebook filters, etc out there but deep down every woman knows this to be true, just like every man knows this to be true.
So now we have young, straight males who see no place for themselves any where in society. They can neither grow intellectually, spiritually, emotionally, or sexually. So they hole up, eat crap, get fat and more and more angry.
They watch porn which leads to needing more and more stimulation, often heading into violent degradation of not only women but in some cases children.
They are plied with violent video games that are basically murder games of anyone and anything.
They are often on “antidepressants” and weed which further imbalances them and keeps them out of touch with any other person and reality.
Is it any wonder we have these mass shootings? Pray tell, what exactly do these boys have to lose?
Then we have women who are told “Your biological drive to get married and have children is wrong. You will be worthless as a person unless you put that on hold, go get a useless degree, and then a job where you will burn out and be completely unhappy. Just tweet, gram, and snap away your entire life and binge drink and have emotionless, empty sex with as many partners as you wish. If you do get pregnant, feel completely free to sashay into the nearest PP and murder your unborn, even up to the moment of their birth. Then, when you are 35, 36 years old, angry and bitter, settle for a beta or gamma male and start your rounds of IVF because your wasteland of a womb and ovaries won’t work anymore. You’ll be congratulated and called brave”.
All of this is part and parcel of further weakening the minds and will of all of us and culling the population.
Don’t fall for it.
Most pointedly insightful comment on the elite’s dehumanization protocol to create a dysfunctional and loveless world.
I just love your rants!
It’s all part of the social engineers recommendations.
1. Create a sense of victimization
2. Sympathize with the perceived victims
3. Perceived victim enjoys the special treatment and recognition
4. Perceived victim becomes addicted to the stimuli
5. Perceived victim becomes dependent on the self gratification of victimhood
6. Control the perceived victim with continues empathy and pity.
Psychological effect is a dependent class of people who no longer recognize their potential. They become dependent and have a sense of entitlement due to their victim status in an unfair, unequal society. It works on the weak minded, that’s a whole other science.
Sounds like government workers.
Sounds like people that live at or near MLK Blvd, Anytown, USA.
Congratulations, you got it. It worked so well on that demographic, they felt they had to expand to a wider audience, with wildly successful results I might add
“WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE ROOT CAUSE OF OUR CULTURE’S CURRENT VICTIM MENTALITY?”
free money. free money for all who attack and degrade america. simple really.
Abandoning God and thus responsibility and accountability disappeared and all was permitted and tolerated.
100 % this
the fact that Being A Victim brings a payoff. the mechanisms of on the one hand empathy and on the other hand indignation to justify attack, are natural parts of the human psyche- but they also , in naturally occurring specimens, express only very rarely because otherwise they _make no sense_. in any sane, healthy, naturally occurring society, aside form exceptional cases of rare true ‘victimhood’ which might generate useful (e.g. life saving) empathy from fellow tribesmen, but beyond that, overdone, would probably get a person kicked out of the tribe and exiled into the wastelands for being a whiny fuck or worse a parasite. In any sane, healthy , naturally occurring society, cultivating a grudge enough to justify going on a rampage might _sometimes_ pay off but only if all the other variables were in place (and likely only if there was some legit meat to the grudge and it wasnt entirely fabricated). Overdoing it, well, maybe once you might pull it off but again, sooner or later, everyone around figures out that modus operandi and will even form an alliance to shut down the troublesome and bellicose ‘victim’ who’s always seeking vendettas to settle imagined grievances. and so on and so forth.
In the modern world, because independent, wholesome, self-reliant people are a threat to the total power of The System, that system will happily feed and fuel the ‘victims’ as cannon fodder against their real target. Millions of useful idiots have now grown up learning to be ‘victims’ because, essentially, they earn their keep by doing so. Being a ‘victim’ gets you Free Stuff. It gets the system to stomp on people you dont like (especially if theyre NOT also victims). It can relieve a person of any responsibility for his life or his fuckups. those are reasons aplenty for far too many people.
When that system finally crumbles into dust all the ‘victims’ will starve very quickly.
I have written this before:
We live in an age of anti-intellectualism: the prevalent teaching is that reason cannot comprehend reality. When reality is incomprehensible everything is the result of some deus ex machina or other. No one is responsible for the outcome and every one is a victim of circumstance
It is vogue to blame others for the choices made for oneself.
“good fortune used to meet you at every corner.”
or like job said, “When my steps were bathed in cream, And the rock poured out streams of oil for me!” job 29:6 that prosperity is a gift of god and that his chosen ones simply step out and scoop it up is a trope of judaism and christianity.
The quote was about agency
and not about religion.
you missed the point ran.
Also Job was a man
and not a vocation.
“The quote was about agency and not about religion”
the religious point is that there is no agency except from god. consider solomon, blessed by god without limit or restriction. on assuming the throne he finds 5000 tons of gold and 50,000 tons of silver (if you believe the text) just simply available for building the temple. not one single world on where all this came from – not from some vast mining operation, not from confiscatory taxation or tariffs, not even falling from the sky like manna – it’s just there out of the blue. that’s the ideal alluded to.
the religious point is that there is no agency except from god…
that is your opinion. It is not a fact.
There was no attempt in what was written above to make any allusions to religion. None. Zero. Nada. Why are you making a Strawman argument. It is disingenuous.
RiNs- What happened to all the Canucks around the platform? Just all of a sudden, they disappeared.
can’t say for sure Bea and for only speak for myself!
It could be that sensible thing to do is to lay low for now. It could be that folks here are quietly prepping for the next shoe to drop. It could be that many have decided to ration the amount of internet they consume.
I can only speak to my own experience and my experience is anecdotal. Still, the price of gas and fuel oil has everyone freaked out here. Winter is never very far from a Canuck’s mind. Could it be that people here are squirreling away nuts for when the snows return. I think so! Whatever way the loaf gets sliced it is going to get real bad next winter.
It will be food or heat. Problem is in Canada one needs both….
Right now Nova Scotians are paying $2.11/liter for gasoline. Diesel dropped today but is still $2.10/liter. Talk is that soon it will be $3.. I just don’t see how the economy is going to sustain that shock.
Fuel oil which many in Nova Scotia use to heat their homes is still over twice as expensive as year. And even then that price was stretching budgets to breaking point.
Governments must be aware of the problem and must know that something will need to be done. The populace in turn must know that something is in the pipeline, pun intended, to be implemented as needed so they do not rise up in revolt.
I suspect right now the wheels are in motion to put in place a system to control how food distributed. My prediction is it will be much like what is being done ion Iran right now. Couple that with a reintroduction of the Covid lockdown rules and it is shaping up to be a shitshow of epic proportions.
So the long and the short of it is we Canucks are a bit further down the road than you folks down south. Most here know trouble is brewing but they won’t say it out loud.
PS: Sorry about Commodus
I call it the Barney Factor.
Remember Barney? The big stupid purple dinosaur where nobody did wrong, nobody was held responsible, nobody failed, nobody lost a game, nobody kept score, I love you, you love me, we’re a happy family.
No one is a fault, therefore anything that doesn’t go our way, It’s not my fault!!!!
The Barney theme song backwards:
Barney’s so gentle, we sleep with him, we’re making out with him, we do revenge and suffer while he’s mocking us. Can’t believe we got that stupid smell, why is he here? Maaan, we got to buy some slippers and some sushi, no. And then we back, and slay a Christian while you look so fat. Asi es nuestro señor that’s mocking, mocking us and then.
It is the love of money, which is the root of all that is evil. But, specifically, the 1990 ADA made disabilities profitable.
If you watch a minute of this video, you will grasp that ADA is a total waste of money.
can’t ask any medical questions… did they write an exception recently for asking about vaxx status.. /s
Long before ADA. My ex-wife’s 1st husband went on civil service disability back in the early 80’s with a bad back. He could not do his job at Tinker, but found no problem starting a house painting business, mostly for cash.
When the government pays you to not work, too many people will take advantage of it.
I knew a guy like that too, also from Tinker, who drew a full disability while putting an aboveground pool and deck in his back yard down the street. He claimed to have hurt his back at work but he really fell out of a tree while deer hunting.
We reported him, but nobody cared.
My dad would tell me if I wanted to be a bum just be a good one.
Attorneys have soaked the system with the various disability claims.
Ignorance, laziness, entitlement mentality and self pity.
The tipping point occurs when enough sugar daddy social “workers” are prosecuted for defrauding the broke taxpayers…
a burning house of victim cards.
Little children are encouraged to tell an authority (parent, teacher) when there is a problem with another child rather than figure things out among themselves.
Good question I had to really think about. I think it’s something few even have a name for, ever increasing generational isolation.
Started decades ago with larger and larger schools and increasing urbanization and increasing two stressed working parent homes where kids get lumped in with their same-age peers and slowly getting less and less knowledge and wisdom about life from older people except for regimented things such as schools and sports and daycare. A typical kid today can grow up without much interaction with adults of all ages in normal life situations. With increase of social media and online versus in-person interactions, this was accelerated and exacerbated.
Kids and adolescents seeing and interacting with fewer and fewer older people gives them fewer examples of how to grow up into normal functioning adults. It’s now “normal” to get the “best” advice and info about life from people who don’t know a !#!#$@$ bit more about life than you do and probably a lot less. Many interactions I see on social media remind me of a grade school playground.
I wonder how many marriages have ended when a frustrated woman goes to her peers or popular online “experts” who encouraged her that she deserves a lot better instead of going to a senior residence care center to find a few widows who had 50 year marriages with all the ups and downs who’d give anything to sit on a park bench to watch one last sunset with her departed husband or share a kiss and hug. Probably pretty much anything a younger frustrated and angry wife would say would probably be nothing new to an old widow who could give a context to working through things and laughing at things in the past.
I’ve never been in the military, but my sense is that following an old experienced NCO into battle is better than following a new officer fresh out of training. As a society, we’ve lost respect and a sense of our need for the wisdom and experience age can bring. Of course, there are the people that didn’t learn much in decades of walking around this planet, but at least there are some who did and are worth learning from.
As a society, we’ve been losing our ability to teach our children how to grow up into some semblance of a healthy adult due to generational isolation. I think we’ve passed the tipping point. It’s going to take a massive upheaval of some type to bring back generational interactions. On the plus side, I think tough times will bring back more human interaction across generations.
excellent point. thanks.
Root cause? As George Carlin said “the real owners”.
The pragamatism (prigmatism?) of biology: least effort/expenditure prevails.
A bear would rather eat garbage from a can or dumpster, or do the Yogi picnic basket thing, than hunt & forage “like the old days” – cuz it’s easier.
An invasive species will wipe the former denizens of a place right tf out cuz it’s the easiest thing to do.
Rapacity is, but for rule-prove exceptions out in the tail, about the full extent of capacity, searching-searching always searching for the unknown carrying capacity which it will only recognize ~ if then~ by exceeding that capacity – & wrecking everything.
Short, ultrashort, timepref livin’s synonym is “deathwish.” Guilt manifests. Neuroticism wants nadir – the lower (like six feet under) the better.
Perversity.
Back in 8th Grade Sunday School (1965-66), half of the year was a study of a new “concept” – Situational Ethics. In summation, there’s no black or white, just gray. Say & think what’s convenient, not the truth.
Pretty much sums up the Democrat Party mindset that has been destroying the country. And it’s now on steroids.
Electricity,liquids,gases and people have one thing in common,they all prefer the path of LEAST resistance……
The root cause?
The same people that caused Jesus to get violent and 109 countries to kick them out.
The whole point of the story of jesus is people can be ‘saved’ by a sacrificial victim. That clearly plays into the mentality of celebrating victimhood.
Not for anyone who took time to adequately understand the message of Christ’s teaching, it doesn’t.
“Victimhood” has been rewarded for 40 years. An entire generation watched this and learned the lesson. They are merely taking advantage of the incentives created in the system.
Would every commenter on TBP be considered a whiner and victim also? 🤔
I do a fair amount of grumbling and belly-aching.
Does that count?
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A confluence of many ailments.
Some great answers above.
The only thing I could add is that for life to have meaning it must first have purpose. No one can hope to accomplish anything- whether it’s baking a cake or building a house- without a plan and the requisite ingredients. Life is no different. You have to know where you want to go and then set about getting there. Without a plan whatever happens is the result of chance, not intention. If nothing happens to us- or if bad things happen- it isn’t our fault, it just happened, or it was the result of someone or something else because we never took the time to formulate a course of action, thus we are victims of circumstance.
A lot of folks I meet will see what we have done and the knee-jerk reaction is to say- you’re so lucky– as if our lives were some kind of fortunate accident we just fell into rather than the result of deliberate choices and focused determination.
I think an increasing larger share of the population is simply waiting for life to happen. When it doesn’t it just means that they didn’t get their fair share from the equity fairy.
The problem for too many is there is no bad luck and there is no good fortune.
Unless you are relying upon the kindness of strangers, like that slut Blanche in Streetcar./s
yup
The harder you work, the luckier you get.
Sociopaths manipulating low IQ voters. People running a scam.
Currently Hollywood, jews (but I repeat myself), and certain christian groups that were influential in america. But in Western history, originally you could go back all the way to the christian craze for martyrdom. How are invented deaths at the hands of pagans or Rome being spread by writing any different than modern martyrdom hoaxes spread by books and film and media?
Lots of great answers out there in TBP land. Thank you Anthony Aaron, Mr. Lib, Drud, Real estate pup, i forget, Boogie, Ghost, Eyes wide shut, and several of you Anons (I wish you would take a name so we wouldn’t be getting you all mixed up, besides, you’re already on all the shitlists anyway.) But Ran t 7 gets the gold star because of one word–money.
Money from all the safety nets, programs, and reparations. Societal safety nets create victimhood. Whining, moaning , and victimhood just can’t get any traction in a society where the government money has taken all the risk out of life.
I’ve taught my children that any safety net they think I may have for them is to be compared to the worlds’ worst bungee jump. It might kick in right before they hit bottom–by that time they will have done something for themselves.
Thank you all for all your comments. I often value them much more than the original article
“”Money.””
William Munny, to the whiner Little Bill(‘s comin’ due via Spencer For Hire): “Deserve’s got nuthin’ to do with it.”
Do ya think Dagget had an epipiphany there at the end, so’s karma’ll be kinder?
We brought curses upon ourselves with a gradual turning from God almighty and the introduction of public SCHooling and then making it national and all but outlawing home schooling. It’s only the last few decades that home schooling has made a comeback. But with what Curriculum?
Another cause was the dehumanizing pioneering spirit myth. Isolating women with no daily village or clan life out in the midst of the appalachian forests or the prairies in solitary sod huts and dugouts. Men with no relatives or neighbors to keep them sane and prevent them from succumbing to their urges to be violent. Women driven to depression and incessant nagging.
The unholy war of northern aggression brought more curses and the robber barons and inhuman conditions of early industrialization all paved the way for the Income tax and universal suffrage which put paid to manhood.
There. That should tee off plenty of people.
I think you make some good points about some overlooked aspects of history that take generations to correct.
I think it’s a mistake to see this as a recent development. I upvoted your earlier comment about faith at 12:01, just didn’t have time to comment.
It is all connected.
Kids growing up without dads in the home. I know when I was a kid, my dad was the one who didn’t put up with the whining.
You want something to cry about? I’ll give you something to cry about.
The universal threat: “Wait until your father gets home.”
GOVERNMENT.
Governments have created the entitlement mentality so everyone feels it is somebody else’s fault for all of their own problems. Bring back personal responsibility and the victim card will disappear.
Laziness! Bottom line.
Free Shit.
Winner winner! Ding ding ding!
without checking the other 59 comments first,
I’d say: FREE SHIT to the ARMY of sponges.
Creates an entitlement mentality, that gets the sadz when the well runs dry.
It’s been drilled into their skulls, by the puppeteers.
That, and the greaseball lawyers who promise a payday for anybody looking for a quick score.
Insurance companies pay, but rates then go higher for everybody.
They all stink.
Them’s my too scents.
Plucked, dead & dry sponges are used, yes, to soak up all the gravy in the boats of the ships of states – & then wrung out-wrung out- wrung out til the picker-upper Bounty’s that’ll never mutiny are in tatters & can no longer be sopped & wrung.
But live, wet, sponges are a different synaptic altogether.
Jews.
I don’t feel anything. But what’s that smell?
If the West opened a fortune cookie
Free Money
Which in and of itself is an illusion that spawns additional illusions.
The root cause: Telling an identifiable group that they are victims, then paying them to play that role.
Stop paying them —> no more victims.
The root cause of victim mentality is other people! Damn, these questions are easy.
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Fed..public. Teachers unions.. That’s the problem and (arbitrary taxes)… we’re not doomed but its going a long hard slog.. Fuck I’m ready me thinks😎
We no longer value self respect or self reliance.
Cause? Simply that it works.
Not only are the majority soft headed but they are soft of hart too. They fall for the ‘help me’ without considering if the request is valid or just motivated by laziness.
I laugh my ass off when I see the same government that posts “Don’t feed the bears” handing out EBT cards and housing to the simply lazy.
Just get pregnant and the government will send a check every month now seems to be a career choice in inner city high schools.
We are not supposed to feed the bears because they will become accustomed to handouts………… D’oh!
Joo backed communism. Divide and conquer. Destroy the masculine, destroy the feminine, destroy the family, the state is what’s left.
Affirmative action and feminism.
LIBERALS !
Instituted engineered inequality and unfair and unrealistic distribution of health and wealth benefits to those connected few leaving the majority struggling to have even a fragment of the American Dream and those losing their grip on that dream are increasing daily while the connected barely notice even a minor inconvenience .
This very System has been pirated and morphed and more left behind with fewer opportunities creating more victims daily !
Wonder why people feel like victims ? Because this government has made victims of most average Americans
I usually blame Democraps for most problems and or joos. I’m sure this too is their fault.
Welfare. The willingness to give money/free shit to anyone that screams that they are disadvantaged has resulted in a society where huge numbers have learned that by screaming disadvantage they get free shit.
We are black and people are racist! Free shit flows.
We are poor! Free shit flows.
We are illegal immigrants and need help! Free shit and baby formula flows.
We are transgender and are being held back! Free shit flows.
We are homeless, drug addicted, from broken families, poorly educated, low intelligence, on the autism spectrum, too fat, too thin, too black, not black enough, too red, not red enough! Free shit flows.
When you pay people to be victims, more victims will self create. Especially if you then broadcast them on CNN and MSM.
How about all the free fiat the top portion of our society take/give to themselves? How about the grifters? They victimize all of us in MANY ways.
The top portion? So, all the top portion does that? What do you mean by top portion? Get serious. Most folks at the “top portion”, say top 1%, have done it the old fashioned ways: married it, inherited it, or made it. Sure, there are grifters and those that take advantage. But the vast majority at the top – small biz owners, doctors, accountants, etc. – have earned it. I sure as hell did. You are really full of envy sometimes, Wip.
What does that have to do with the topic at hand, which is about victim mentality. The answer remains – because it pays, and free shit flows to victims.